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joacen March 7th, 2011 5:13 PM

B/W Graphics
 
The developers of Pokemon B/W did an excellent job. I'm playing through Pokemon White, and one thing about the game that I'm really impressed with is the graphics. The environments have much more depth and detail. The games have really come a long way. I can't wait to see how the changing seasons affect the look of the game.

What do you think of the Black & White graphic style?

MichaelDj54 March 7th, 2011 5:16 PM

The graphics are awesome. My jaw dropped when I saw Castellia City.

Burzes March 7th, 2011 5:40 PM

I definitely agree with Michael (I'm agreeing with myself? O_O"). The graphics are pretty much at their peak. How everything is redone is just jaw dropping.

Ravecat March 7th, 2011 6:16 PM

They could definitely be better but I'm happy with them.

Heliotrope March 7th, 2011 6:27 PM

I'm more impressed with how much character they put into the battle animations... little things like Darumaka tucking his arms in and sitting there like a doll, or Scraggy pulling his shorts up over his whole body and letting them fall back down.

I like little stuff like that... but the graphics and environments themselves are nice too. Even the Routes feel like they have more character and depth.

PlatinumDude March 8th, 2011 1:14 AM

From what I've seen from the B/W YouTube videos (I don't have the games yet), the B/W graphics are incredible; they're a step above Gen IV's graphics.

Sylveon March 8th, 2011 1:18 AM

The graphics are so-so. It's great when there is a cut scene and some of the cities are nice c:

MAizHxC March 8th, 2011 2:52 AM

the graphics are good. My only complaint is when youre battling and your pokemon looked pixeled. anyone else notice this?

Pokemon Trainer Touko March 8th, 2011 2:57 AM

I love the graphics, Castelia city was amazing. XD

ShinyMeowth March 8th, 2011 2:58 AM

The graphics are awesome. I mean, the game actually feels 3D, unlike the failed 3D attempts they made at the 4th generation. The textures are great too, and I love how the Pokemon are animated. The games are masterpieces, and their graphics are pure art.

skyluigi2 March 8th, 2011 10:49 AM

I love the graphics. Castelia City :D
But something keeps telling me that the graphic's aren't that much different from D/P/Pt...


-Totodile42

marcc5m March 8th, 2011 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAizHxC (Post 6498395)
the graphics are good. My only complaint is when youre battling and your pokemon looked pixeled. anyone else notice this?

That's only on the Rom. Try playing it on the DS, and it looks fine.

I love Sky Arrow Bridge. I could run about on it all day :D

MeerFall March 8th, 2011 10:52 AM

I'm so impressed that i thought that i should of payed more!

TJgamer March 8th, 2011 10:53 AM

I'm not sure what to say.
But it's certainly better than Pokémon Diamond!

molepeople27 March 8th, 2011 11:51 AM

I really like them. I made the world feel more alive, no to say it felt more "real". Just everything had so much better detail and feeling to it or them; than previous handheld pokemon game.

I would mos def give this game 10/10. Wonderful. Nostalgic. Fun. Brilliant. Pokemon.

Raichu1988 March 8th, 2011 12:05 PM

I really like the graphics for the city's and the routes. I also like the small details of in battle pokémon. I can't wait to see the seasonal changes as well, I think it'll be really nice because it will set a certain feel to the game with each change. The cut scenes look great and I really love the intro when you first turn on the game actually. But, one thing I'm not too fond of is the back side of your pokémon when you battle. It looks weird. :/

Hypno March 8th, 2011 12:15 PM

The graphics are pretty much the same when it comes to the cities and towns, they just shifted the camera angle to make it look different.
But I do like the battle animations a lot more.

CoffeeWolf March 8th, 2011 12:22 PM

I love the battle animations the most. Battles look so much better and go much faster too

Palkia March 8th, 2011 12:23 PM

I would say they are a HUGE step up as there have been not only upgraded, (Castella City and Victory Road being prime examples.) but also some graphical glitches have been fixed up, so they are certainly the best looking pokemon games (Excluding Battle Revolution) yet.

Rich Boy Rob March 8th, 2011 12:35 PM

The graphics are intense in this game (Castelia City, I'm looking at you), especially the way the camera pans around and turns allowing for a greater sense of scale.
I also like the way that the new camera style allows for things like the curved roads in Castelia and the circular rooms in Dragonspiral Tower.

[EDIT] I forgot to mention the new, animated battle sprites; they make the whole experience seem more alive and dynamic.
My only problem is the backsprites though. They seem to have designed them in such a way that you only ever see them non-pixelated is when the are initially thrown out and in the 'Dex. The other way around would have made a bit more sense, but it's not a big problem.

MAizHxC March 8th, 2011 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fireworks (Post 6498902)
That's only on the Rom. Try playing it on the DS, and it looks fine.

I love Sky Arrow Bridge. I could run about on it all day :D

I dont play ROMs

Im playing on a DS Lite.

Midnight Jog March 8th, 2011 2:57 PM

Overall, I'm extremely impressed with the graphics. the random 3D parts of your journey-- especially the Sky Bridge and the Nimbasa Gym... AMAZING. I had so much fun on the little track ride in Nibmasa's gym. Walking along the Sky Bridge has been the peak of my adventure, so far (as far as the enviornment features go). I love the battle animations, although I HATE, I HATE, I HATE how pixelated and crappy the hind view of your Pokemon looks, when in battle. I also hate that the Pokemon follow and the use of the Pokewalker weren't continued onto B&W. I really loved those features, and I thought they'd be a prolonged piece of Pokemon forever! I'm impressed with about 85% of the new pokes. They're very good. Better than I imagined. I really wanted to be able to use my Pokewalker forever ): Soul Silver is the best Pokemon game in my opinion, but the girl and the boy in Unova are my favorite player designs, so far!

I'm sure some of you "indie," classic gamers love the pixelation of the backsprites, but personally... I hate it more than anything and it actually makes the game a bit less awesome ): Maybe I'm being a whiner, but I miss the old, crisp graphics on the backsprites. Please put them back in, in the next game!

IceGod64 March 8th, 2011 3:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight Jog (Post 6499283)
I'm sure some of you "indie," classic gamers love the pixelation of the backsprites,

Funny you should mention that. I kinda do like the pixelated look on the front sprites, though I will agree the backsprites should've been higher resolution. They are TOO pixelated. Still, the fact that we have full-body back sprites is nice now, I would have liked to have seen that ages ago, and the animations never fail to make the game feel a lot more fun. PS: Pokemon Black and White are the first games to actually have good sprites for Lucario.

Outside the battle, I'm not sure if I like the graphics or not; The sprites look much better than Gen IV's sprites, but I feel like the scenery has sort of lost it's "Pokémon" feel. I guess I can't complain though, it still looks awesome.

.Aero March 8th, 2011 4:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireworks (Post 6498902)
That's only on the Rom. Try playing it on the DS, and it looks fine.

I love Sky Arrow Bridge. I could run about on it all day :D

When you're viewing a pokemon's backsprite, it's much more pixelated than a front sprite. Just sayin'. It's quit noticeable, but text pretty much covers up your pokemon and it goes off screen whenever you attack so it's no big deal. :]

I think the graphics are pretty astonishing this gen. I love the small details in the floor tiles in certain places (especially in Pinwheel Forest).

Volcarona March 8th, 2011 4:33 PM

I bought the game mostly for the beautiful graphics. I love the bridges, buildings, and especially the towers. I could train in Dragonspiral Tower for hours and not be bored. :3

Midnight Jog March 8th, 2011 4:35 PM

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Originally Posted by IceGod64 (Post 6499312)
Funny you should mention that. I kinda do like the pixelated look on the front sprites, though I will agree the backsprites should've been higher resolution. They are TOO pixelated. Still, the fact that we have full-body back sprites is nice now, I would have liked to have seen that ages ago, and the animations never fail to make the game feel a lot more fun. PS: Pokemon Black and White are the first games to actually have good sprites for Lucario.

Outside the battle, I'm not sure if I like the graphics or not; The sprites look much better than Gen IV's sprites, but I feel like the scenery has sort of lost it's "Pokémon" feel. I guess I can't complain though, it still looks awesome.


I can dig that. I understand where you're coming from! But, Pokemon is evolving and "improving"/updating, just like everything else in the world is.

Meganium March 8th, 2011 4:42 PM

I'm quite impressed on how the battle scenario was made in the game. I mean, triple battling? That's something. Also the animated sprites, to be quite honest, are a lot better than the 4th generation games.

NoAvatarsAllowed March 8th, 2011 5:17 PM

I think they really pushed the DS graphics, which isn't too much of a surprise. Anytime the next device comes out (the 3DS in this case) the previous generation output is maximized. They've mastered the DS hardware.

The 100 Mega Shock March 8th, 2011 5:38 PM

The backsprites are scaled up so that they manage they can fill the screen to a reasonable degree in the battle sequences - leaving them at a regular size would make your side of the field seem sparse, while drawing backsprites natively at such a large size would take forever.

(And there's also the matter that Pokémon Musical sequences use the back and front sprites together to improve the impression of movement, and that wouldn't work if the back sprites weren't the same size as the front ones)

Zvezda March 8th, 2011 6:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireworks (Post 6498902)
That's only on the Rom. Try playing it on the DS, and it looks fine.

I love Sky Arrow Bridge. I could run about on it all day :D

It doesn't look fine on my Lite or my DSi. They are way too pixelated and it really bothers me. The NPCs in the Pokecenters look bad, too. I love everything else, though, especially the bridges, but that might be because I'm strangely obsessed with bridges, lol.

Speed March 8th, 2011 6:18 PM

Maybe it's because I haven't gotten too far into the game yet, but the graphics look like D/P/PT Graphics to me. The graphics in battle have really improved though.

Yusshin March 8th, 2011 6:47 PM

I dunno. Sometimes when I move, I get some strange graphic issues like NPCs with holed eyes so they look like zombies. It's kinda bothersome.

Also seems pixellish sometimes, and blurry. I love the battles, though.

Legendary Silke March 8th, 2011 6:55 PM

The graphics in the fifth generation improve upon the later fourth generation games. I especially like the battle graphics, aside from the backsprite resolution - I do understand that VRAM can run out, though. As for the overworld - much nicer than HGSS, and definitely better than Platinum. (Castelia City... I will never forget. Or all the bridges.)

CptSwaggerPants March 8th, 2011 8:19 PM

I don't like the way they did White Forest and Black City, or how pixilated your Pokemon are in battle but other than that, amazing!

Asphyxia March 8th, 2011 8:27 PM

Graphics are really nice, they are vibrant and detailed.
Love the animations to each pokemon. :D

Kendosis March 9th, 2011 12:32 AM

I only like the battle graphics but hate everything else, the taller characters look awkward too.

Youji March 9th, 2011 1:51 AM

The environment like the Routes, etc. looks impressive but actually not much of an advance compared to 4th Gen. The 3D still looks a bit 'emulated' and the taller characters look very skinny... (Big head, too slim body).

The battles are great with the animations of the Pokémon, they let them be alive somehow. I think they really overtopped themselves.

The idea with the seasons is great and that the areas change that noticeable is also great but still it's not blowing my mind away :D But I guess that's because they have to keep that cute charm, players are familiar with and only can do bigger changes from game to game. This time it was definately the character design which they want to improve.

holdmykidney March 9th, 2011 2:03 AM

I sometimes think the 2D sprites don't scale very well...

but overall I think the direction of some of the 3D scenes is very good and I love the new battle animations. I like the fact that when pokemon with eyes are sent to sleep their eyes actually close. It's a real improvement and way past due.

MAizHxC March 9th, 2011 2:55 AM

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Originally Posted by holdmykidney (Post 6499935)
I sometimes think the 2D sprites don't scale very well...

but overall I think the direction of some of the 3D scenes is very good and I love the new battle animations. I like the fact that when pokemon with eyes are sent to sleep their eyes actually close. It's a real improvement and way past due.

I was astounded by this. The ingame graphics shocked me also. Overall, its a great game.

SquirtleGirl March 9th, 2011 10:58 AM

I love Castelia city :D I feel like I'm in a Final Fantasy game there to be honest ^^ And Sky Arrow Bridge blew my mind ^^

Ive noticed the pixelated backsprite too :( Its a small price to pay for the rest of the good graphics though n__n

I love how all the gyms are different on the outside as well as the inside n.n Nimbassa and Driftveil gyms are pretty memorable to me n.n

Sarcastic Prince March 9th, 2011 10:47 PM

The graphics are awesome. I mean, it's the DS, man! What do you expect?
The graphics in B/W already reached its limit. So, they're awesome on a DS console.

Vrai March 9th, 2011 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravecat (Post 6497969)
They could definitely be better but I'm happy with them.

Just wondering, how could they get better? I mean, these graphics are probably some of the best yet for the DS. You can't really compare console games and stuff to a DS game because they're entirely different.

Myself, I'm totally in love with how they got everything to turn out. While everyone usually fawns over the stuff like the huge buildings in Castelia or pretty cities/landscapes or whatever, my favorite part is honestly the changes made to the battle system & sprites. Breathing, moving Pokemon are one step closer to what I would imagine them as if they were real. Plus, the background zooming around with moves and stuff is really cool imo. I love everything they did with the battle stuff. :DD

Sarcastic Prince March 9th, 2011 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrai (Post 6501534)
Just wondering, how could they get better? I mean, these graphics are probably some of the best yet for the DS. You can't really compare console games and stuff to a DS game because they're entirely different.

Myself, I'm totally in love with how they got everything to turn out. While everyone usually fawns over the stuff like the huge buildings in Castelia or pretty cities/landscapes or whatever, my favorite part is honestly the changes made to the battle system & sprites. Breathing, moving Pokemon are one step closer to what I would imagine them as if they were real. Plus, the background zooming around with moves and stuff is really cool imo. I love everything they did with the battle stuff. :DD

Yeah, I agree, it's basically impossible because it reached its limit for the DS.

And yeah, the zoom in camera stuff and the huge skyscrapers are the best, yes, I mean, the best things in the whole game. I pretty impressed that Game Freak actually bothered to make a game good in terms of graphics.

MrGriszell March 19th, 2011 11:27 AM

Graphics
 
Now i was looking at the graphics from pokemon black and white and comparing them to gen 4s. Now i like the new look of pokemon in gen 5 but i kinda miss the older style of the graphics so i was thinking why cant they combined the two. I was looking at some of the dream world art and i was wondering why cant they use that type of art in the game. What are your thoughts?

Lambda March 19th, 2011 11:31 AM

I really like the new change of graphis this generation.
But the pokemon were much more pixely in battle and the over world trainer sprites look werid from a certain angle.

lamby101 March 19th, 2011 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambda (Post 6520771)
I really like the new change of graphis this generation.
But the pokemon were much more pixely in battle and the over world trainer sprites look werid from a certain angle.

Yeah I was quite annoyed by the over pixely battle scenes, it'd be nice if they had graphics to match the quality of the game.

PlatinumDude March 19th, 2011 3:51 PM

The graphics of B/W are amazing. Even though I don't have the games yet, I've seen videos about it and they were more breathtaking compared to the Gen IV games.

solarowl March 19th, 2011 3:56 PM

This time, GF took the Graphics of Pokemon to a whole new level. I've gotten used to the new graphics now, but I remember, everything was amazing when I started playing White.

Fiendly March 19th, 2011 4:02 PM

Majority of everything is fine except the battle sequences.
I hate how they're a tad delayed as well as being too pixelated.. Not liking the depth.

Ho-Oh March 19th, 2011 4:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrGriszell (Post 6520762)
Now i was looking at the graphics from pokemon black and white and comparing them to gen 4s. Now i like the new look of pokemon in gen 5 but i kinda miss the older style of the graphics so i was thinking why cant they combined the two. I was looking at some of the dream world art and i was wondering why cant they use that type of art in the game. What are your thoughts?

Already got an active thread for the graphics, so merged!

Also, amazing graphics. I love it all. Now if they could be less pixelated on Skyarrow Bridge somewhow when zooming out... (I know, very unlikely D;)

Thomas March 19th, 2011 4:30 PM

I don't really see much difference with the the actual quality of the graphics in BW, but I do love all the new camera angles they are using in this game. I love that they are do dynamic rather than that static camera we had in DPP

travisjb1990 March 20th, 2011 12:38 AM

I love the graphics in Black and White. They are just awesome. Every thing looks great from the places to the Pokemon and Trainers. They really did an awesome job with the graphics.

Binary March 20th, 2011 1:21 AM

Amazing. I love every pixel. The feel of the overall environmental settings is great. I love all the new camera angles, and uh.. all the move animations and sprite animations. I'm only through like 50% of the game, and I'm hoping for more. But yeah, they've done an amazing job with the graphics in B/W.

Nearsighted king of Ice March 20th, 2011 3:49 AM

It was Awesome Specially when those cutscenes occur...

Eurydice March 20th, 2011 3:49 AM

the graphics are absolutely amazing i played on skyarrow bridge and a few other places just because it was so awesome. then the seasons just make the game more real.

The 100 Mega Shock March 20th, 2011 2:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrGriszell (Post 6520762)
Now i was looking at the graphics from pokemon black and white and comparing them to gen 4s. Now i like the new look of pokemon in gen 5 but i kinda miss the older style of the graphics so i was thinking why cant they combined the two. I was looking at some of the dream world art and i was wondering why cant they use that type of art in the game. What are your thoughts?

The Dream World art looks amateurish and as if it was drawn in Flash. Besides you can't use large artwork in a DS game without scaling it down to the point where it becomes a featureless mess.

XXIII March 20th, 2011 2:10 PM

I don't know if I'd call the graphics amazing (quite basic pixel art), but I can say that the animations are fantastic.

The 100 Mega Shock March 20th, 2011 2:16 PM

The animations aren't particularly amazing either - they're clearly constrained by both the DS's graphics memory and the amount of time they had to work on each Pokémon.

WriteThemWrong March 20th, 2011 2:59 PM

the zooming in and out and manipulation of the camera creates depth in a pokemon world for the first time. battle animations are the best i've seen but the back sprites irk me more than usual in B/W

vobgro March 20th, 2011 5:12 PM

Animated battle sprites are awesome, especially when pokemon actually closes their eyes when they're asleep.But their animated sprites moves normally when they're paralyze...so that could be improve.

lawlercopter March 21st, 2011 12:18 AM

I played yellow for a little bit a few days ago and it's crazy how much the game/graphics have changed since then. This game looks so good graphic wise.

King Gumball March 21st, 2011 2:06 AM

I think the graphic are A-M-A-Z-I-N-G! I loved the graphics as soon as I saw the bedroom. The pokemon battles are soo fun now, with the endless animations, and the cities are so 3D, idk how the 3
ds could top that. I love being on the bridges, and the different camera angles show, and one of my favourite 3D effects was running up the stairs in Celestial Tower. I thought it looked so heaven like, and the perspective was really good. I think they nailed this game in terms of camera angles/graphics!

Karmano March 21st, 2011 5:09 AM

really pixeled, but still delicous.

tjb90 March 22nd, 2011 6:00 AM

The graphics in Black and White are so awesome. They look great. I love all the detail there is in the graphics and all the camera angles too.

Dawn March 22nd, 2011 7:08 AM

For the DS? And not evne the DSi or 3DS? The graphics are simply amazing. It's like, the pinnacle of DS graphics. It's just /that/ good. I can't imagine DS graphics getting any better.

I think the next step is for them to get a higher resolution system and take advantage of the size to use more effects. But for now? They've /perfected/ the art.

Sasuke. March 22nd, 2011 7:10 AM

Meh. I thnk the camera was great. Still wish they waited for the 3DS. They would have been a lot better.

Shiny Zoroark March 27th, 2011 10:59 AM

the new graphics are outstanding! i hope they remake r/s/e with graphics that good

DemonBlood93 March 27th, 2011 12:09 PM

I like the graphics too, but they have pretty much reached there limit with the DS, can't wait for Pokemon on the 3DS that should be good :D

hackerofdarkness March 27th, 2011 5:20 PM

I like almost everything but these two things the ow's don't look very 3dish some of the sprites look like they been repeated for example scoutland line looks very similar to pouchinia but neither less still practical.

The Nightmare March 27th, 2011 7:59 PM

It's graphics are really good and it's clear is well.When you battle it's not that good because you see pixels on the pokemon your useing isn't that good but a well.


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