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Nateon March 7th, 2011 6:33 PM

N -- The best enemy?
 
Now that i've played through White in english, it's given me more of a chance to look at N and think more about him. I love how they're given it a fresh theme; N is the unfortunate child who had nothing but the pokémon (mostly seriously hurt) around him and constantly told he's an awful let down of a child, bringing him into the adult he is now, pure hearted but with the wrong intentions. I thought this really was a fantastic way to look at the misunderstood guy, better than the usual 'i just want to rule the world as a bad guy' kinda thing. What do you guys think?

PPB_All-Stars March 7th, 2011 6:39 PM

dude N is boss!!! i was N for Halloween this past year!!! He is just the coolest bad guy ever! Next to Giovanni of team rocket of course

Nukez March 7th, 2011 7:20 PM

I dont think N or plasma are evil theorectically. They have good morals in mind. They just approach them the wrong way. Like what happened to communism in soviet union. its a perfect system but it was approached the wrong way and led to the collapse of it.

Heather March 7th, 2011 7:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nukez (Post 6498053)
I dont think N or plasma are evil theorectically. They have good morals in mind. They just approach them the wrong way. Like what happened to communism in soviet union. its a perfect system but it was approached the wrong way and led to the collapse of it.

I absolutely agree with you.

N is so far one of my favorite enemies. He has a different story from the other rivals, but he somewhat has a good heart.

The Nightmare March 7th, 2011 7:42 PM

N is also a cool rival to have as to fight and as an enemy.

Sydian March 7th, 2011 7:59 PM

He's a freakin' hottie, but he's also a total creeper. That's all I really have to say about him.

The Corrupt Plague March 7th, 2011 9:13 PM

This must be the first game in the series I have actually seen a boss I could sympathize with. Even though N and Team Plasma are very extreme in their actions, you sometimes can't help but think that maybe their intentions are good.

adhdguitar March 7th, 2011 9:16 PM

Meh, I thought their intentions were good until they started kicking Pokemon... >.>

N's cool though. :p

Skullduggery March 7th, 2011 11:39 PM

I think N is one of the best rivals/evil guy that you have had to face for a while. Other than him, I didn't really like Team Plasma.

ソラ March 7th, 2011 11:54 PM

To be honest.
N is my all time favorite character of Pokemon since I played Japanese Black.
Team Plasma and N did have a good intentions, but they did it all wrong, They just thought about Pokemon, on how they feel about being trapped in a ball and be forcing to battling. But seem mostly they like it. They just wanted them free

Kon~ March 8th, 2011 12:05 AM

I think Team Plasma was evil but N himself was not. After all, Team Plasma were thieves and hypocrites, sat up on their high horse and stealing from innocents, then defending themselves with lies. Ghetsis was a manipulative little [CENSORED] who messed everything up. N was...

N just had good intentions. All he wanted was the best for Pokémon. As I played, I was agreeing with points he made because I think the same way.

N is the best character GameFreak have created in a while now.

MeerFall March 8th, 2011 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kon~ (Post 6498276)
I think Team Plasma was evil but N himself was not. After all, Team Plasma were thieves and hypocrites, sat up on their high horse and stealing from innocents, then defending themselves with lies. Ghetsis was a manipulative little [CENSORED] who messed everything up. N was...

N just had good intentions. All he wanted was the best for Pokémon. As I played, I was agreeing with points he made because I think the same way.

N is the best character GameFreak have created in a while now.


I agree with you as the team plasm grunts are a little stupid [CENSORED] up thing and N is quite nice with telling me that he was the boss on a fairis wheel where we can't fight!

Sylveon March 8th, 2011 12:47 AM

I like N, his hair is cool and there is something about him that is kinda nice about him x]

Pokemon Trainer Touko March 8th, 2011 12:54 AM

I LOVE N, he is simply too nice to be a bad guy. Team Plasma and Geechisu are evil, but not N.

PlatinumDude March 8th, 2011 1:05 AM

I like N as a character, but while he has good motives, they're twisted thanks to Ghetsis.

Kon~ March 8th, 2011 1:32 AM

(Adding to my earlier post)

The thing I like about him the most is that for the better part, I agree with him. N just wants Pokémon to be treated the best they can, as do I. N just wants Pokémon and humans to create bonds and friendships together, as do I. N doesn't like Pokémon being kept in a PC, isolated and in stasis - I feel really strongly about this. Thus far in my game, I have caught only 6 Pokémon. My PC is empty and except for legendaries/shinies/compulsory captures, I want to keep it this way.

N isn't an enemy, he's just manipulated to appear so. He's just a well-meaning young man who had his own vision clouded by the lies of others.

Nateon March 8th, 2011 2:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kon~ (Post 6498333)
(Adding to my earlier post)

The thing I like about him the most is that for the better part, I agree with him. N just wants Pokémon to be treated the best they can, as do I. N just wants Pokémon and humans to create bonds and friendships together, as do I. N doesn't like Pokémon being kept in a PC, isolated and in stasis - I feel really strongly about this. Thus far in my game, I have caught only 6 Pokémon. My PC is empty and except for legendaries/shinies/compulsory captures, I want to keep it this way.

N isn't an enemy, he's just manipulated to appear so. He's just a well-meaning young man who had his own vision clouded by the lies of others.


I agree with both of the things you said and in the case of N it's really just a lonely young boy being raises with a cruel father who didn't care about anything but his own cruel intentions. I went through the league last night and just felt so sorry for N when i beat him, made me wanna hug the poor guy!! He always had good intentions and he did change the minds of other members of the organisation, as you discover in his castle. I myself always thought it was mean just to leave unused pokemon in their balls in the boxes just never being used and if they were real, i never would do it to them, just live with them at home and only with ones i love. He is definately my favourite 'enemy' of all now =]

CoffeeWolf March 8th, 2011 5:37 AM

I really love this game so far... it's a lot deeper than any of the other Pokemon games (and I've played them all). I have 5 badges so far. For the first time I'm not skipping over the dialogue quickly from Team Plasma because it's actually a little complex for a Pokemon game. I feel like the series grew up with the 1st gen players :)

And N is awesome. I like how he asks questions

Raichu1988 March 8th, 2011 9:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kon~ (Post 6498333)
(Adding to my earlier post)

The thing I like about him the most is that for the better part, I agree with him. N just wants Pokémon to be treated the best they can, as do I. N just wants Pokémon and humans to create bonds and friendships together, as do I. N doesn't like Pokémon being kept in a PC, isolated and in stasis - I feel really strongly about this. Thus far in my game, I have caught only 6 Pokémon. My PC is empty and except for legendaries/shinies/compulsory captures, I want to keep it this way.

N isn't an enemy, he's just manipulated to appear so. He's just a well-meaning young man who had his own vision clouded by the lies of others.

I agree with both your posts about N. He really just seems to want the best for the pokémon which I like. I think he's the most interesting rival character and "enemy" since generation one for me. His character just seems more complex than just battling a rival to battle and get to the top first. A lot of the things he says makes you really wonder and see that he's got a good heart and feeling behind his intentions.

I think N has to be my favorite character in the series in a long time, just as a pokémon trainer I mean. He's a lot more interesting to me than some of even the heros in the stories before. And I also really like the design, they just made him look so cool. :D

shinx12345 March 8th, 2011 12:59 PM

I want N to be a bigger part of the story next time around. (Pokemon Grey)
Maybe after you have completed the game he could be re-battled every day?
And he changes his team every time. (Like in the story.)
Yep, I really think N is a good character, partly because he reminds me of L form death note.

Lateon March 8th, 2011 2:53 PM

I think N is hands- down the most developed in-game pokemon character to date (abused child? Pokemon? the two shouldn't go together, but they do). I wouldn't consider him or Team Plasma bad- like it was stated before, they wanted to do good but just didn't go about it the right way. Ghestis was the one that manipulated everyone into having things his way and raised a child to see his point of view.

k0n0k0 March 8th, 2011 3:02 PM

I have to admit he's one of the most cool enemies in the series. I'm kinda tired of all that gary oak's wannabe and stuff... This one had background story, emotions, everything.

iNfEcTeD_mUsHrOoM420 March 8th, 2011 5:13 PM

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Originally Posted by adhdguitar (Post 6498156)
Meh, I thought their intentions were good until they started kicking Pokemon... >.>

N's cool though. :p

i kinda have to agree with that. like, why would anyone kick a pokemon? especially a munna..i wanted to kill team plasma afterwards. but yes, N is very different from any other rival in the pokemon series. Giovanni however is still my personal favorite.

shengar March 8th, 2011 5:40 PM

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Originally Posted by iNfEcTeD_mUsHrOoM420 (Post 6499488)
i kinda have to agree with that. like, why would anyone kick a pokemon? especially a munna..i wanted to kill team plasma afterwards. but yes, N is very different from any other rival in the pokemon series. Giovanni however is still my personal favorite.

haha, at last a people that I can agree with. He's very sportive as trainer and Gym Leader because he gave the Earth Badge to player despite his plan are spoiled by us.

molepeople27 March 8th, 2011 5:44 PM

N left me a puddle in the midst of dry land; a misty awakens.
When I sleep, the sound is N
His brain and idea are fresh, 15 years in the making.
But i have been eating too much candy, I wish he was a dentist


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