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DS vs. PSP
Well, here ya have it. A comparison of the DS and PSP, sent to me by a person who wishes to remain anonymous. It's the same game, Ridge Racer, on both consoles.
http://img86.exs.cx/img86/2985/11009598374934pp.jpg After seeing this, which one are you getting? |
DS gfx are not everything you know i would still like it if they were 2d ^_^ and i don't play those kind of games much so meh!
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those clearly aren't the same games. Just look at the positioning of guages and stuff. Most games leave that kind of stuff in the same place even when they cross console boundaries.
This particular debate has become kinda heated in the past, i'll leave it open for now, but at the first sign of flames, this'll get closed. |
Yeah.. But I like the DS more :) ^^
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Actually, they are the same game. When games cross platforms, they tend to look different. Take the Harry Potter games, for example. But anyway, the point of this is to show the difference in graphics between the two consoles.
As for me, I'll probably be getting the PSP, if they end up porting DS emulation onto it. Otherwise, I'll probably get the DS. |
I allready have the normal PS2.. So I'll only get the DS ^^
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DS for sure casue it can play gba games ^_^ i love my 2d games eh psp meh
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Yeah? I didn't know it could play the GBA games ^^ lol
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Those screens are biased towards the PSP. They show the PSP's graphical superiority but they haven't shown the DS's twin screens or touch sensitive capabilities. I'll be getting the DS. I already have a PS2 and I aint paying a shedload of money for a smaller,less capable version of it.
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although that pictures looks low quaility needs to be saved in a better format o.O
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Lol, it doesn't show the true power of the DS! ^^
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The way I see it, there's little to differentiate the PSP from the PS2 apart from the fact that one's portable. So what exactly is the point? I mean, with the GBA developers were forced to utilise the hardware that was available to them, which allowed for more original versions of current home console games to come about (Kingdom Hearts: CoM?). With the PSP that will be no more. Devil May Cry PSP will be your run-of-the-mill DMC game, etc etc. The only genre that I see benefiting from the huge leap is sports games. I can't wait to play Pro Evolution Soccer on Sony's handheld.
The PSP skips an entire generation - namely, the DS. Imagine if that would've happened before the GBA's launch, and the entire 16-bit handheld era had been ignored? No Minish Cap, Metroid Fusion, Tactics Advance, Mario ports... Likewise, should the DS be crushed by the PSP (unlikely. Thank the lord for Pokemon and their console-selling ways) we'll see no more 64-bit handheld games, possible Ocarina of Time/Smash Brothers/Mario Tennis/whatever ports or remakes. I just think Sony's giant leap to modern-day visuals is a shame for those of us who enjoy the nostalgia of playing games that are either remade classics, or at the very least in the same style as them. The GBA is a portal back to the days of the SNES. With the PSP, the future of handhelds is exactly the same as the future of home consoles. Where's the fun in that? (For the record, I'll be getting both) |
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*hugs PSP*
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I can definetly see your point, but it's still not my style. And I know that you didn't really mean exactly when you said it, but the games won't be exactly the same. For example, FFVII:CC will only be for PSP, and not PS2 XD I won't list another example, because that alone is good enough reason for me to get PSP :P And for the record, I'll be getting DS just for FFIII and the Pokemon games. |
He's right, this is only shots of ONE game. It could be the other way around, for instance:
When Need For Speed: Underhround 2 comes out for both, on the PSP it may look better, but the DS would offer more options on the Paint jobs, (Like custome drawing and/or placing vinyl and paint.) I agree that while the PSP looks better on the PSP, you have to figure in that the DS needed some space for the Double Screen Coordination. |
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Oh and of course, the screen will be clearer. I've always had problems with my N64 putting out a fuzzy picture, which is partly why I don't play it anymore. I know FFVII:CC will be a PSP-exclusive, but basically there's no real reason why it can't be launched on the PS2. That's sort of what I mean - there's no real difference between the two apart from the fact that one can be played on the move. |
Ds.
I am a loyal Nintendo fan so i'm going with the DS.
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I think that DS will probably stick to N64 games far more than they would to PS1 games XD I'm not putting down n64 games at all though, so please don't misunderstand me. It's just that... well, they're smaller than PS1 games. XD Plus, don't you think PSOne games have a greater chance of getting ported to PSP? |
Not really. I'd expect Sony want developers to maximize the PSP's graphical potential. So unless it were vastly updated, I don't expect to see the fabled Final Fantasy VII remake alot of people are speculating over any time soon.
Not all PSOne games would be beyond the DS. The likes of Resident Evil and Tony Hawk's were released for the N64 after all. I don't know all the ins and outs of consoles, but if games like Perfect Dark and Ocarina of Time squeezed onto the N64 then I don't see why some PSOne titles couldn't get a DS make-over. Not that I'd want any, of course. With the exception of the Final Fantasy series and a couple of others I hated the PSOne. XD |
er i dont get what the poll is for is it for which is better or which one are u getting? well ill vote for ds cuz i no more bout it :P
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Let your dreams decide what the poll should be! xD |
(That's a lot of freedom.....)
BTW: When, EXACTLY, does the PSP come Stateside? |
Those pics are Biased.I mean,clearly for the same game the PSP is better,for better Graphics.But the DS has at least non-port games.And better gameplay.*coughmetalgearcough*
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I don't know how the PSP will ever beat the DS. Once you feel how good touch really is, you're hooked!
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I know. Sony has its head screwed up. ~_~
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i mean,what are they smoking?They think it will sell.Ha!*coughngagecough*
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Ya, you would at least think that the NGage would have turned them off. Nintendo is good at handhelds, and the GBA just broke the record for handhelds sold....^-^
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Don’t call either of them stupid. This topic is really touchy, and if anyone so much as says anything that isn’t positive about either system, a fight usually breaks out. So watch it guys, you can discuss them but…don’t flat out bash them.
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There has been a simple, narrow-minded comparison of the DS and PSP(wow, how many times have I talked about these?). You cannot judge the DS and PSP based solely on graphics. It's stupid! Theres many more concepts to a system besides graphics.
The DS offers the same type of gameplay as the PSP, while the reverse is not true. The PSP cannot even compare to the interaction that Nintendo has offered with the DS. As for UMD discs, the battery power doesn't even allow for the music or movie to play good. Meaning, you'll have to walk around with an adapter and backup battery all the time. |
I luv PSP XD
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Both are untouched and straight from the game. Also, please don't assume that DS will have less port games than PSP, when PSP isn't even released yet XD Lastly, some people may like the gameplay that you put down. DS's gameplay being better is your opinion, and by no means a fact. Quote:
Also, some of us would rather have all of those features in one device, not many. I wouldn't consider it 'impossible' Quote:
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PSP is by no means, an N-Gage XD Quote:
But Sony may be just as good, and I wouldn't count them out just yet. :P Quote:
I don't really care for DS's interaction capabilities with features that are useless in my opinion, like picto-chat and a touch screen. And don't even touch the battery-life issue. PSP can handle 5 hours+ for movies, 8 hours+ for gaming, and even more for music. You all had previous attacks on battery-life and price, but now that the real facts are out- told ya so! |
The GBA didn’t offer all those features either, and yet it outsold consoles who had features like mics and online play etc. Features are good; however, if no software makes intelligent use of them, they’ll go to waste. The GBA > GCN link is a good example. It’s cool, but so few games make actual use of it beyond basic concepts.
I don’t know anything about the PSP or the DS besides I don’t intend to get either. However, beyond all the features and specs and everything it comes down to how much fun it is to play. Nintendo fans will buy a DS, and Sony fans will buy a PSP. Even if they put out the same quality of stuff as the Ngage, they’d outsell it, simply because of the larger fanbase. There really weren’t…Nokia fanboys and girls, per se. Now if either can deliver real entertainment for those in the middle, or even reaching over to the other side, then they’ve got something. …I think. And Brit, I know it was just teasing, but don't taunt or even appear like you could be. See the above? I don't attack points of either console, and while it may not be the most compelling arguement, at least it's tranquil. |
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Told ya so mainly. I realize you’re not seriously taunting, but a lot of people are sensitive about this. That said, I was just giving advice. Let’s return to talking about the DS and PSP. Like…
Has anyone tried steering with the second screen wheel? o_O Is it intuitive or more difficult to use? |
I have one thing that Im shockd no one has talked about.
Everyone thinks the PSP will play ALL DVDs.....well it doesnt. It plays PSP exclusive DVDs such as Final Fantasy 7: Advent Children. While Im not saying PSP is bad I dont really like that part. The DS has two screens and alot of people think thats it an online system....well its not. The "online" feature (and Pictochat) reaches approximatly from Your House to next door. Although both systems are good DS offers slightly more (in my opinion) than the PSP. And as Kairi said Nintendo fans will buy DS, Sony fans will buy PSP.....thats entirely true. |
Yo,Britt,Where did i say they were a fact?Nowhere.Maybe i am a Nintendo Fanboy.Who cares?I agree with Ms.Admin.minus the not getting one part.
Heck,Im getting the PSP even. Also,DemaSked is a nintendo project that WILL let you reach 3000 miles to Anywhere*coughonlinecough*Using Hot Spots Wi-Fi is different from online. |
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I think DS is better than PSP. - stated as an opinion If you want to avoid an arguement, don't barge into a thread and say "DS's gameplay styles are better!" when you know that someone may disagree. Also, I never called you a Nintendo fanboi, and you're not really getting PSP even by saying "I like DS!" over and over again. 'Ms. Admin' was just saying that to make sure I don't go too far in my posts, which I haven't done yet. Quote:
Abby was definetly right about the fan part, I'm just mad because some promote it with false information XD |
Yes I know it doesnt play DVDs what I meant was it only plays things that are only compatible with the PSP (forgive me if Im mistaken)
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UMDs (1.8 GB) Memory cards (from 32mb up to 1 Gig, and even more in the near-future) That's your main PSP media. |
Its really too bad though because Sony had so much they coulda done that they didnt....its quite disappointing
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Of course, the machine's features are aimed towards different audiences, but as far as I'm concerned(and most other Sony fans), PSP is ahead of it's time in graphics, games, and features. I've totally lost my interest(with the exception of Pokemon) in Nintendo products after GCN and NDS. They're just not my style XD |
Ha but its not really ahead of the generations I think. What it seems to me is just a handheld with good graphics and other little tidbits but not much else. It doesnt give you much to do once youve finished something a few times. But the main thing that really disappoints me about the PSP is what is said above. The PSP is just a handheld system with nothing but games that are little different than the PS2. I dont think the DS is as suprussed up as it need be but in my opinion it has more replay value.
Overall: PSP: Great system with extraidinary graphics, music player, UMD player, and little else. It is great until youre done with game or movies. Overall DS: A different kind of system with average graphics, 2-screens, chat, and somewhat "online" support. At beginning it may not seem like much compared to PSP but ends up being great when you want to do games over with the "online" One thing not mentioned: PSP will hook up to your PS2 to play certain games online (if you have online with PS2) such as Gran Turismo. |
Not true.There is no connection to the PS2.Also,Britt,I never said you called me a nintendo fanboy.I just said i am.And,I will be getting a PSP.
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Yes, there is
There is a connection dude and I know it....at least im 95% sure there is
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95%.Not 100%.Ok,then.Give me prove.Please.
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I don't agree with the 'little else' part of Poke's statement. PSP does have other features, like ~GPS ~Keyboard ~Camera and more! XD |
REALLY! WELL THATS CHANGES MY WHOLE OPINON! Well there is room for mistakes. And MY proff is the Official Playstation Magazine (OPM or 1up.com) said that games like Gran Turismo will have only play on PSP with it being hooked to PS2.
Brittany even though all though features are there (I think its better than DS in some ways now) DS will probably win THIS year because of its experience and amount of fans. In the next 10 years Sony might just kill Nintendo.....because if Nintendo's new platformer fails and PSP destroys DS (unlikly) Nintendo might go outta business (because of little sucess of Game Cube |
GTA4: Mobile doesn't require connection to the PS2 for gameplay, it's just used for extra features and such, me thinks.
Nintendo might have a comeback. With all of the talk about their 'Revolution' system, things may look up, along with help from Gameboy Evolution XD. But I still think Sony will dominate overall XD |
Ya neva know....ya neva know
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Although the PSDS thing may have better graphics, I like Nintendo products way better than anything else, so, DS. I still need to get one.
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It’s all up to the software developers to use what’s at their disposal to make fun games. On the DS side, they have many forms of interaction. And on the PSP side, better specs. But when it comes down to it, if nobody uses either of these…well, then they’ll flop. |
Youmknow someone will use these
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Let’s hope. I haven’t seen too many uses of the second screen/touch/mic I find particularly clever. Nor have I seen anything really mindblowing on the PSP yet, either. Like I said, we’ll see. >P
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2 screens, and a touch screen. Does PSP offer this? SO lets see I'm going to be paying double the DS, for just a music and movie player. That sounds about right doesn't it? |
I'm not really a fan of some of the DS's features - pictochat and all that mallarky. I find the second touch-screen a novel idea, and one that opens up a lot of possibilites for games designers who can actually be bothered to utilise it. I'm not saying it's the greatest thing since sliced bread - far from it. But at least it's offering developers the chance to do something different.
I'm no innovation-hippy though. First and foremost, I want a DS for Mario 64, Final Fantasy III and a bangin' new Zelda game. XD One thing you can say about Nintendo is that they're naive. Especially when it comes to the US and European markets. They probably think a technically weaker machine like the DS can flatten the PSP purely for the fact that it has a number of features that don't appear on Sony's handheld. Well they're wrong. You only need to look around the various PlayStation forums to realise that all they care about is graphics. It's their counter-argument to everything you say the DS has going for it. The PlayStation fanboys are a group that Nintendo can only dream of cracking. |
Nintendo will not fail.If the DS fails,they bring out the GBE earlyer.
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I mean…all the great game systems in the past only played games, until the Xbox or PS2. But people don’t think those two are great because of the “extra features” of a DVD player and such. They value them for their gaming ability. Iwata has made it clear though, that the DS is targeting the beginners and young women, both whom “usually dislike games” Now I can’t see anyone who dislikes games anyways specifically going for the DS hardware. It’s kinda large, and I imagine all its features could seem a bit daunting at first glance. Like…most people who get Mario 64 DS do so cause they liked it on the N64. Now stuff like the Sims and Animal Crossing does reach this audience, cause it’s a whole different kind of game. But I don’t see an entire platform being like that. Anyways, it’s a risky idea to base your system on, especially as video games become “cooler” and more mainstream. Appealing to the 17~25 gamer with stuff that looks “sweet” has worked so well for Sony and MS. Look at Halo. Everyone who’s played an Xbox, at one point or another, has touched Halo. Halo 2 had a ridiculously huge launch. This doesn’t mean the games have to be rated M or drip with blood. It just means it appeals to gamers differently. Like you can pick up these games, and start playing easily. If you want though, you can do much deeper in them and play your friends, consume your adult beverages, laugh, socialize, etc etc. But blah, I’m rambling, and the words just aren’t coming out right. |
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Ok, first you said that the DS didn't have any software to back their abilities. I agree and I think Nintendo has failed in their so called 'revolutionary system'. But the features and abilities with the DS are practical in gameplay. Take 'Feel The Magic' for example. This game utilizes all the DS' features, touch screen/microphone/and dual screen. Meaning this game couldn't be played the same way on PSP. You said the DS was large and the design wasn't too good. Once again, a narrow-minded comparison to both systems. You simply cannot say because something doesn't look small and sleek that it won't outdo the opponent. These are the same 17-25 audience your talking about, who can look at a game and just say it's good. Take Racket and Clank for example, the game just made three top 10(perfect) ratings in major gaming magazines but it just suffered a $10.00 price drop. |
Yeah, see I’m not sure if they are. If they are, then could be successful. But FTM is about the only piece of software I’ve seen that has demonstrated use of them. That’s why I’m unsure as to how they’ll hold up.
I didn’t say its design was poor. I said it’s features may appear a bit overwhelming at first glance to the audience Iwata is targeting. I’m not claiming the PSP has a better design. I’m discussing the design and plan of the DS, not the DS vs. the PSP. Lastly, I’m not saying that audience rules. I’m saying the majority of the success in the market is aimed towards that group. Certainly not all of it, but it’s heading that way. And that doesn’t mean other corners of the market should be ignored, but the young adult set should definitely be given at least consideration. |
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But yes, those features have been confirmed. You don't need a third party, just the official website XD Quote:
Saying that we have differing opinions is one thing, but to completely disregard it is another. And think about it. A camera and keyboard. PSP might be able to handle a messanging service that sends real pictures, not hand-drawn ones, and type out messages too. Quote:
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IMO, batting around facts hasn’t really helped us. I can’t tell you how much a UMD holds. Or what it means. Or how fast the DS is. Or even what type of memory it uses. But neither can the vast majority of people who buy these things. People are becoming more aware, yes…but still the majority of sales are going to come from people who don’t know this stuff. And with their purchases, they’ll decide how well these two do.
There are lots of reasons. I bought a GCN because I had a positive experience with Nintendo consoles in the past. I bought a PS2, however, because of Squaresoft. I bought the PS2 only because it has exclusive titles from Square. So past experience and license are two motivators. I bought my Xbox and Dreamcast by recommendations from friends. Positive buzz is yet another reason people buy these things. But (with the exception of the Xbox, who makes its power part of its advertising push) how able these consoles were, really. So yeah, it’s nice to have more space and power to work with, but those alone won’t decide it. Yeah, it’s good to have the facts. More informed consumers are definitely a good thing. And you’ve very skilled at bringing those to us, Brittany. ^_^ But it’s just one part of the discussion, I feel. billy...please don't taunt with what you call her in your quote, and settle your tone down a little. We do not need flames. And Brit, don't start anything back. You know better, right? |
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And I wouldn't assume the worst just yet. We thought PSP was gonna be $250-400, so who is to say that they won't do the same? And even if we were to assume the worst, I think $80 would include both of them XD EDIT: Quote:
I guess my post wasn't that bad, was it? |
Well,Sorry.But I think the DS will be better.*Leaves*
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Nah, you guys are mostly fine really. ^_^ And I think most everyone in this threads thinks one or the other is better, and this won’t change it. XP It’s all in good fun to discuss it though.
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Although I was REALLY looking forward to it, I was dissapointed in the DS. I mean, I think the system has a ridiculous amount of potential, but whats with the opening games? The games are great, but none of them are KILLERS...
Although I was kinda mad nintendo with their opening titles, I'm even less impressed by PSP's opening titles...frankly I don't see myself buying either one. But if I had the money, I'd go with DS. |
Well the GBA's line-up wasn't exactly mind-blowing. Mario Advance and F-Zero were all I was interested in.
I'll only be buying Mario 64 for the DS. Until something else arrives of course. |
I already have a DS, and doubt i will buy a PSP.
The DS is awesome, the touch screen is the best..... |
Dakota,the DS's BIG titles are being saved for the
PSP launch.Acually,the same Week.I Really Recommend it. |
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D0000D! If they made a Melee or Zelda game for the DS, I would buy one in a SECOND! |
Zelda:Confirmed as a FS title/And I THINK they confirmed a Adventure similar to OOT/MM
Melee:I highly think so.(it would make nintendo ALOT of money.XD) |
I do believe (not sure) the main force behind Melee has left Nintendo since then. So it might be possible, but I haven’t heard much. Besides…wouldn’t that be a bit odd on the DS? Yes, wireless, but touch control just doesn’t have enough variety in inputs for a fighting game.
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In the end, we will see who wins...... whoever wins will so which one is more popular. Graphics or features. Thiis handheld war will be big but when we see who wins (features or graphics) both handhelds will use it and then we might see who will win in the long run.
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Not EVERY game needs to use the touch screen, I'd play smash without it
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Hasn’t every game so far used it in one way or the other?
Still, this raises a good point. This is a game that--even though it never would be--could be done better on the PSP. It’s a game that’s fun without the touch/dual screens. But with more space for more characters and better graphics on the PSP, it would be better on it. I’m not saying the PSP is better period, but I’m saying…you can see where its supporters do have some merit, yeah? |
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I think he just means he believe Nintendo will find a way to do smash brothers even without the processing power of the other handheld. ^_^;
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I meant Nintendo will find a cool way to use the Touch Screen/2nd screen.
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That’s an idea, but seems like kind a waste of a screen. It is something I didn’t think of, though.
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Nintendo is making a Dictionary game.It can convert over 15 languages.It will have different word gsmes and Mini games.
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A language dictionary would be awesome =3
[So would a graphing calculater!!!] I've heard rumours of the DS getting a web browser too... |
Tis been confirmed.A calculator would be nice.I dont think the DS can handle a web browser.
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Yep, a DS can. I don't know where I heard it...but Nintendo said it would let 3rd parties make one. It would use WiFi to connect to the web.
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3rd parties?NOOO!I hate 3rd parties!(not the games,the accessorys)
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The browser would be like a game ^^;
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I really can't say, I mean even though the graphics seem better on a PSP, on a DS you would be able to talk to your friends at the same time that you play...............I HAVE NO CLUE!!!
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Where does it say that?Me want prove!XD
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Check the official website. www.playstation.com is a nice start :P |
There have NOTHING about the PSP there.XD And,just recently seeing a pic,There is a hole that reads"Microphne".XD
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Was that so hard? XD |
I am getting the DS because I like Nintendo more then Sony. That is the only reason. If I liked Sony, I would buy a PSP. (Not saying I don't like sony I have a Ps2)
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That's exactly what I'm here for XD |
The PSP just doesn't seem as...cool...o.0;;
I know that sounds wierd, but it looks like black palm pilot + the original GBA. Kinda reminds me of the NGage...>>; |
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