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Carlito-san December 11th, 2004 6:55 PM

What is the N-gage?I've heard of the "taco"game player.is that it?

Brittany December 11th, 2004 6:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokejungle
The PSP just doesn't seem as...cool...o.0;;

I know that sounds wierd, but it looks like black palm pilot + the original GBA. Kinda reminds me of the NGage...>>;

Umm, thanks for you two cents? :P

I'm just kidding anyways, but I like see this exactly the opposite way as you do xD

Touch screen, stylus? Pictochat?(hey, it's close enough XD)

I guess it's because it has a bunch of features(that are useless in my opinion), but anyways....

pokejungle December 11th, 2004 6:58 PM

Ummm...no. go to www.n-gage.com [I think that's the URL...0.0]

It was a failed portable/phone from Nokia. =/

Timbjerr December 11th, 2004 6:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billybob
What is the N-gage?I've heard of the "taco"game player.is that it?

the N-Gage was a weird cell-phone/game console combination that never really sold that well. some gamers call it a "taco" due to its appearance and it's just as practical as a taco...

Brittany December 11th, 2004 7:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokejungle
Ummm...no. go to www.n-gage.com [I think that's the URL...0.0]

It was a failed portable/phone from Nokia. =/

No, I'm talking about the Palm Pilot part, not the n-gage part :P
But even at that point, I see this differently xD

Carlito-san December 11th, 2004 7:01 PM

JK.....but it really does look like a taco!i saw ssomeone with one,and bursted out laughing.Poor person...

pokejungle December 11th, 2004 7:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brit
No, I'm talking about the Palm Pilot part, not the n-gage part
But even at that point, I see this differently xD

I was talking to Billy....>>;

I don't know how you can call pictochat useless, but, meh, not everyone was gifted with as much brains as me =P

[J/K Brit, after all, I didn't make it past Prez pre-lims!]

Brittany December 11th, 2004 7:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pokejungle
[J/K Brit, after all, I didn't make it past Prez pre-lims!]

What does that have to do with this? :P

Anywho, lets get back on topic. Does anyone wonder what the heck FFVII: CC is about? Square is coming off with so many FFVII spinoffs, heck, they might as well change the company name to FFVII.

Lets see, FFVII: AC, BC, CC, DC.

I see some sort of pattern forming XD

mew42003 December 11th, 2004 7:38 PM

I chose DS cause I have one.And I love it!

Flaming Torchic December 11th, 2004 7:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brittany
What does that have to do with this? :P

Anywho, lets get back on topic. Does anyone wonder what the heck FFVII: CC is about? Square is coming off with so many FFVII spinoffs, heck, they might as well change the company name to FFVII.

Lets see, FFVII: AC, BC, CC, DC.

I see some sort of pattern forming XD

Eventually they'll make an FFVII: AC/DC!

Anyways, I'll probably be getting the DS, since it has Pictochat, and more games that I'm interested in (but I'll probably eventually get a PSP).

Brittany December 11th, 2004 8:56 PM

Wuvable DS!
 
Our wuvable DS and his PSP buddies!

Aww, isn't it cute? :P
No? I thought so >.<

Simmons_2.0 December 11th, 2004 9:20 PM

Welll ill be getting DS, simply because i hate sony. Why did mom get a sony camera why!? And nintendos portable Games and gameplay for thier portable systems are superb. I mean look at the NGage they thought it would sell and it fell flat on its face. And people tink some systems are the best because of thier grapics, thats not right i could care less about the graphics as long as it good gameplay. And PSP doesent sound very addictive to me.
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it :snea:

Scyther5 December 11th, 2004 9:39 PM

I have the DS, wich I love, but I plan on getting the PSP too when it debuts. So I'm not saying anything until I have both, but Nintendo will win me over with the better games, but PSP will do the same with the features and graphics.

Kairi December 11th, 2004 10:17 PM

The problem (okay, one of the many) problems with the Ngage is that all the developers try to overreach and indulge themselves in a fantasy that the Ngage has the power to make decent looking 3D games, and play them well. It doesn’t.

Really, we can't say either way on the PSP. We can on the DS. Dakota is a good example of this. He had high hopes for it, but its reality didn't live up to those. We won't know if the PSP does until it launches.

Kairi December 11th, 2004 10:21 PM

Well then I made a donkey of myself. >P
The DS has sold well too, but that doesn’t mean it’s going to do well in the long run, either. Too soon to really call that.

Simmons_2.0 December 11th, 2004 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kairi
The problem (okay, one of the many) problems with the Ngage is that all the developers try to overreach and indulge themselves in a fantasy that the Ngage has the power to make decent looking 3D games, and play them well. It doesn’t.

Really, we can't say either way on the PSP. We can on the DS. Dakota is a good example of this. He had high hopes for it, but its reality didn't live up to those. We won't know if the PSP does until it launches.

who were you talking to? Me or someone else? and the DS has bareley been out for 2 months so Dakotah could still be right about the DS. And in response to a1337a post 800 dollers!!! Thats ridiculus!! And im really mad right so forgive me.

Kairi December 11th, 2004 10:30 PM

Well he said atm it’s underwhelming, and I have to agree, that’s probably the best word at the moment for it. So yes, it’s possible, but grows less likely the longer they wait.

Sawah – but the vast majority of sales don’t take place there. Only the real fans are going to get them from there. Like I said, Sony fans will flock to the PSP; Nintendo fans to the DS. Because they trust the company, for the most part. And as for the price difference, well the PSP isn’t out in the states yet, right? o_O That’d kinda explain it. How much does the unit retail for normally anyways?

Skarmory469 December 12th, 2004 1:17 AM

I think DS pwns PSP, but as neither of them have been released I can't tell ^^;;

I want a DS, because Nintendo have always released quality games and I predict that PSP will be plagued with PS2 games. >.>

Spectrum December 12th, 2004 1:50 AM

Yep, that's true. I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo's next system uses that same game as a launch title.

Lucifer. December 12th, 2004 2:13 AM

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Originally Posted by a1337a
As opposed of course to the GBA which is plauged with SNES and NES games, and the NDS which is reusing an N64 title for launch. Blah.

Very good NES and SNES games.

Although it would've been nice to see a brand-new 2D Mario platformer.

DarkPhoenix December 12th, 2004 2:19 AM

Meh.... I might end up getting them both... so meh... lol. PSP for graphics and games, and DS for Nintendo-respective games, like Zelda and Pokemon.... bah... I am gonna be ppoor XD

Carlito-san December 12th, 2004 5:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Brittany
What does that have to do with this? :P

Anywho, lets get back on topic. Does anyone wonder what the heck FFVII: CC is about? Square is coming off with so many FFVII spinoffs, heck, they might as well change the company name to FFVII.

Lets see, FFVII: AC, BC, CC, DC.

I see some sort of pattern forming XD

FF7:CC is about FF7:AC,but battleing with Cards.*coughMGScough*

gamecubeboyz December 12th, 2004 6:11 AM

i say ds because imo its better and with touch screen it makes it more better,cooler and sexier. lol jking about the last one.

Burne Starcofski December 12th, 2004 9:47 AM

Nobody answered my question...
When does the PSP come Stateside?

Timbjerr December 12th, 2004 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Burne Starcofski
Nobody answered my question...
When does the PSP come Stateside?

I may be wrong, but I heard it comes to the U.S in Summer of 2005.

PSP may have more powerful specs, but Nintendo and the DS have a better track record. A lot of people trust Nintendo for their quality games, and they are looking forward to some awesome games in the future.

Kairi December 12th, 2004 12:35 PM

Same with Sony. And as such, both systems will have people inherently locking to their systems. It’s getting people who weren’t interested in their system to buy it, that’s the challenge.

It comes down to can new control types and inferior specs do that, or superior specs and traditional controls do it.

Brittany December 12th, 2004 3:40 PM

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Originally Posted by billybob
FF7:CC is about FF7:AC,but battleing with Cards.*coughMGScough*

Sorry, but WTH are you talking about? FFVII:CC has no info released yet, aside from the fact that it is an action RPG for PSP that is being released late 2005.
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Originally Posted by tmbjr
I may be wrong, but I heard it comes to the U.S in Summer of 2005.

PSP may have more powerful specs, but Nintendo and the DS have a better track record. A lot of people trust Nintendo for their quality games, and they are looking forward to some awesome games in the future.

Better track record? You mean GameCube?
*dies laughing*
=X
Sorries >.<

Carlito-san December 12th, 2004 3:45 PM

No offence to Brit,but you are kinda a Sony person.Not Fangirl,just,likes them more than nintendo.Track Record?you mean the 16 Handhelds that Trashed Compition for 10+ years?

Lucifer. December 12th, 2004 3:52 PM

In terms of quality hardware, Nintendo has Sony licked. The Gamecube may not have the massive third-party backing that the PS2 has, but it's infinitely better in terms of reliability and overrall lifespan.

Carlito-san December 12th, 2004 3:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucifer
In terms of quality hardware, Nintendo has Sony licked. The Gamecube may not have the massive third-party backing that the PS2 has, but it's infinitely better in terms of reliability and overrall lifespan.

Yes.Have youve ever heard of a DRE on the Gamcube?No?Because there hasnt been one.(that has been reported)

Lucifer. December 12th, 2004 4:01 PM

It's not just that. My friends and I have been suffering from PS2 problems for quite some time now. I've replaced mine for the silver model once already, and now some annoyances that plagued the old PS2 are starting to creep in again. Vibrating disk tray, loud whirring/clicking noises, etc. By my reckoning the next step is DREs, and finally the inability to load Final Fantasy FMVs. Which just isn't on. XD

Brittany December 12th, 2004 5:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billybob
No offence to Brit,but you are kinda a Sony person.Not Fangirl,just,likes them more than nintendo.Track Record?you mean the 16 Handhelds that Trashed Compition for 10+ years?

I am a Sony person. At least I use cold hard facts to back my opinions. At any rate, the minority of my points lie in my opinion, because I have had to clear up false information 90% of the time XD

And why does track record matter? Sony doesn't have a track record in this area, so to say that Nintendo's is 'better', is a very biased assumption in my opinion. They did it with PS2 vs GCN, they can do it again :P
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucifer
In terms of quality hardware, Nintendo has Sony licked. The Gamecube may not have the massive third-party backing that the PS2 has, but it's infinitely better in terms of reliability and overrall lifespan.

I disagree strongly. I don't have anything else to say XD
Quote:

Originally Posted by billybob
Yes.Have youve ever heard of a DRE on the Gamcube?No?Because there hasnt been one.(that has been reported)

Yes, I have heard of a DRE on GameCube.

Carlito-san December 12th, 2004 5:30 PM

Yes.But GCN BEAT PS2.Also,my facts are not false either Brit.

Brittany December 12th, 2004 5:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billybob
Yes.But GCN BEAT PS2.Also,my facts are not false either Brit.

I didn't accuse you of having false info. I just said that there was false info in this thread. Even so, I know that the people posting it aren't doing it because they are lying, they're just misinformed.

And no, GCN didn't beat PS2. PS2 outsells GCN in games and systems.

Carlito-san December 12th, 2004 5:40 PM

What?Um...No it hasnt been.

Brittany December 12th, 2004 5:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billybob
What?Um...No it hasnt been.

Yes it has. I won't continue arguing this, it's an unaviodable fact.

John Denver December 12th, 2004 5:42 PM

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Originally Posted by billybob
What?Um...No it hasnt been.

Actually, I think PS2 does outsell GCN...I'm not saying I like PS2 better, but hey, facts are facts...

Course, there was the year when GCN released Wind Waker...heh...nobody could touch it ;)

Carlito-san December 12th, 2004 5:44 PM

W/E....I Still like it more.and Sawah,thats just your store.

John Denver December 12th, 2004 5:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a1337a
Yup, the GCN constantly outsells the PS2.
TBest seen when a multi format title comes out, let's use NFSU2 as an example.
On the day it was released we got in my store..
108 copies on PS2 @ $99.95 each
64 copies on Xbox @ $99.95 each
4 copies on GCN @ $69.95 each
Now, at the end of launch day, we'd sold out of the PS2 version, sold out of the Xbox version, and still had THREE copies left on the GCN.
Now, given it has better graphics, runs faster, and is CHEAPER, why do you think it sold so poorly in comparison? Cause so few people have a Gamecube by comparison. Which means, DUN DUN DUN, that the PS2 and Xbox are beating it.

So dont make up stuff, please.
It's because of people like you making up stuff that flamewars break out.

Thats the sells for your specific store though Sarah...if we went by Country, then X-box is barely selling at all in Japan...whereas GCN is beating it...

But I already know that PS2 sells more than GCN

Brittany December 12th, 2004 5:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billybob
W/E....I Still like it more.and Sawah,thats just your store.

Sawah has access to world figures too :P
I'm sure she would all of the figures loose to PC, but I think she wants to keep her job XD

Carlito-san December 12th, 2004 5:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dakota
Thats the sells for your specific store though Sarah...if we went by Country, then X-box is barely selling at all in Japan...whereas GCN is beating it...

But I already know that PS2 sells more than GCN

D,thats only in america.Only 1/16 of the world.

John Denver December 12th, 2004 6:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a1337a
People like to say that when I present them with raw facts.
"Oh, thats just YOUR store".
Well the argument is old, think up something else cause I'm gonna dispell it.
Think about it. Head office sent us FOUR copies only on the GCN, because they knew it wouldn't sell well. Now, why do you think they'd do that? Could it be they know the GCN is just the system no-one wants?
I bet if I looked up store allocation when I'm at work, I'd see that 4 copies is about standard for what every store got.
You gotta understand, Nintendo Fanboi, that I work from facts.
I dont make up crap, like you.

Watch your tone Sarah...you always feel the need to add a little insult in your posts...none of us have attacked you directly, so don't feel like you have to

But when you start off a post saying "At my store this. At my store that" people aren't going to think what you say applies to the rest of the world. Yes, we KNOW that your store sells GCN less than the other 3 systems. We've realized that already, you drill it into our heads in every post.

We KNOW that GCN sells less than PS2, we aren't denying the facts, at least I'm not. But that doesn't change the fact that I think GCN is far superior to the PS2 system wise and game wise.

Booo....ya...

Brittany December 12th, 2004 6:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a1337a
People like to say that when I present them with raw facts.
"Oh, thats just YOUR store".
Well the argument is old, think up something else cause I'm gonna dispell it.
Think about it. Head office sent us FOUR copies only on the GCN, because they knew it wouldn't sell well. Now, why do you think they'd do that? Could it be they know the GCN is just the system no-one wants?
I bet if I looked up store allocation when I'm at work, I'd see that 4 copies is about standard for what every store got.
You gotta understand, Nintendo Fanboi, that I work from facts.
I dont make up crap, like you.

Straight to the point, and though it may hurt feelings, I have to say that I agree 100%.

It annoys me when someone spends thier time defending false information(intentional or not), and fails to accept the truth, even from people that have the capacity to be know-it-alls like you or I. I'm sure that there are other people that want to defend DS with real facts in this thread, but until then, people need to stop pretending that thier opinions and false information are facts. It just doesn't work that way.

I'm not directing this to anyone specifically, but please just think about what you type before you actually post it people. Ask yourself if it's actually been confirmed, or is it the best explanation you could think of, off the top of your head?


And to Dakota, at least you write say that you think it is, rather than automatically saying it's fact, or implying that your opinion is better than another's.


Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But nobody can make up a fact.

Kairi December 12th, 2004 6:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brittany
I am a Sony person. At least I use cold hard facts to back my opinions. At any rate, the minority of my points lie in my opinion, because I have had to clear up false information 90% of the time XD

And why does track record matter? Sony doesn't have a track record in this area, so to say that Nintendo's is 'better', is a very biased assumption in my opinion. They did it with PS2 vs GCN, they can do it again :P

I disagree strongly. I don't have anything else to say XD
Yes, I have heard of a DRE on GameCube.

Like I said though, facts are good, but they can’t formulate for sure if one will succeed or fail.

@D, well, like she said, it’s the expectations. If the EB only sent 4 copies, it means they must have experienced poor sales of GCN titles before.

@Brit 2:

No. No no no. You are not the games mod. Don’t tell people how to act. Yes, they may have been making up stuff about the GCN versus the PS2. All you can do is tell them the facts. If they refuse to accept that, you need not point it out. Cause that’s what strts the flames. This topic is no longer about the DS and the PSP, but about facts and acceptance and thread behavior. And that’s very very bad. So cool down, and let’s all find a new topic about the DS/PSP.

Brittany December 12th, 2004 6:23 PM

Hmm, some would consider jumping into a thread and posting every thought that comes to their head spam, but I guess not.

Even when I tried to start a lil' conversation about some PSP games, someone had to come in and make up information about them, which makes discussion almost impossible, unless you're a DS lover.

I'll back off for a while.

John Denver December 12th, 2004 6:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a1337a
Dakota, why don't you read the post I was replying to, before stepping in with your hollier-than-thou additude? Someone claims it's a fact that the GCN outsells the PS2. All I do is set the record straight.

In addition to calling them Fanbois and saying they make crap up...meh...

And Brit, ugh, I can't begin to explain how everything you just posted applies 100% to you more than anyone.

Although, ashamed as I am to admit, most of the fanboys in this thread do support the DS with faulty info. The things I do know that are fact

PSP is slightly faster and has better graphics than the DS
DS has a wider amount of extra features
PSP is lead by a team with no experience in handhelds
DS is lead by a team a decades amount of experince in handhelds
UMDs hold more than the DS boxes
The PSP's battery life for games is around 6 hours-ish
The DS's battery life for games is around 10 or 12 (I think, I might have to check)

And that is, I think, the extent of my knowledge...

*struts off*

Brittany December 12th, 2004 6:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dakota
And Brit, ugh, I can't begin to explain how everything you just posted applies 100% to you more than anyone.

I have not once introduced false information, or said that my opinion was fact. Yet people accused me of it all the time.

"Brit, you don't know the battery life!"
"Brit, you don't know what the price will be!"


Remember this stuff? People said I didn't know anything about this stuff. But now that the results are public, who's right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by a1337a
Okay, let's get some discussion done.
Now that the system is out, we can see that the PSP infact has a plastic cover to protect it's screen, making it vastly more durable than first thought.
The entire system is well built, comfortable to hold, and feels like the same kind of quality as a good Sony MD Player.
Initial reports are now stating battery life is far greater then originally thought. Ridge Racers, Medium Screen Brightness, Six Hours and Thirteen minutes for the battery to do. WHich is THREE TIMES what Nintendo Fanboys would have you beleive.
Given it's rechargable battery is built in, six hours is plenty, given that's PLAY time, while standby time is probably measured in days like a standard high end cell phone.
So there you go, thats my discussion contributed

Oh yes, didn't I also say that the PSP had a plastic cover? Another fact I pointed out, that in turn, made me the liar in the old threads.

Kairi December 12th, 2004 6:45 PM

Brittany, stop it. Right now. Proving yourself right is getting nowhere but very very close to getting this thread closed. You could have talked about how the PSPs power will make for a different style of gameplay, and how that’ll help it. You could have said you didn’t feel the DS’s abilities matched that.

But you are intent on proving you were right, he was wrong. That’s not the point of the thread. Last warning, if this thread doesn’t go 100% PSP/DS, it’s closed.

Scyther5 December 12th, 2004 6:46 PM

How long is the battery life of the PSP?
Sony Computer Entertainment has made measurements of the PSP's abilities, based on technical standards and in-game performance of work-in-progress games. On October 27, 2004, the company announced that the typical battery life for the PSP will be between 4 and 6 hours for games, with 4-5 hours for video viewing. These numbers, according to SCE, were determined with the system's luminance set to maximum (180 cd/m2) and minimum (80 cd/m2), volume set to half the maximum level, headphones used instead of speakers and wireless LAN not in use.

SCE has described its 1,800mAh battery to be able to power the unit for as long as typical battery-based portable electronics, which would include portable DVD and MP3 players as well as other game systems. At E3 2004 in May, SCE estimated the PSP's battery life to run between 2 1/2 and 10 hours. The PSP's various CPUs are scalable, and usage of the UMD disc drive may depend between different types of games and game engines.
~ IGN
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just what I found off IGN, for the record I support both systems..so Im not for one more than the other.

Kairi December 12th, 2004 6:49 PM

Okay guys, here’s a good opportunity. He posted a snippet of an article from a website. Now, if you wish to refute this fact, you can find a credible source, and offer proof. This is where facts come in. However, if you don’t really add anything like how it would affect the PSP IF that were true, you’re just tossing around facts.

John Denver December 12th, 2004 6:49 PM

Tales of Symphonia
Zelda
Final Fantasy
Golden Sun
Smash Melee

If the DS came out with ANY of these kinds of games...I would buy it in a snap

*wonder if they can make DDR on the PSP*

Scyther5 December 12th, 2004 6:50 PM

@ Kairi ~I'm just trying to clear things up since the battery life seems to be a giant Issue.

Kairi December 12th, 2004 6:52 PM

They have a DDR on the computer, but I don’t think the real DDR fans would want a version without…you know, activity. O_o;

And ToS is now on the PS2, too, so I dunno if it’d be developed exclusively for the PSP. Or both, since as the first post shows, there’s a big difference in hardware.

And I understand. ^_^; Your post was fine, jjust using it in example.

Brittany December 12th, 2004 6:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dakota
Tales of Symphonia
Zelda
Final Fantasy
Golden Sun
Smash Melee

If the DS came out with ANY of these kinds of games...I would buy it in a snap

*wonder if they can make DDR on the PSP*

Zelda and FF are the best bets out of that bunch, but I'm really looking forward to a Golden Sun sequel. I'm not sure about TOS or Smash though XD

And PSP could infact handle DDR, but what's the point? XD

Scyther5 December 12th, 2004 6:56 PM

Well, that article was the most up to date one I've found.
Also, from that article it sounds like the PSP is going to have an MP3, is that true?

John Denver December 12th, 2004 6:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brittany
Zelda and FF are the best bets out of that bunch, but I'm really looking forward to a Golden Sun sequel. I'm not sure about TOS or Smash though XD

And PSP could infact handle DDR, but what's the point? XD

You could have super ripped thumbs

Scyther5 December 12th, 2004 7:00 PM

Oh, thats pretty cool. Then I guess they where obviusly talking about the DVD( or what ever it is) battery life.

Lucifer. December 13th, 2004 2:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brittany
I disagree strongly. I don't have anything else to say XD

Well obviously I can only speak for myself (and about 6 other friends), but so far the PSOne and PS2 are the only consoles I've owned that malfunctioned in some way or another. I still have an N64 in mint condition and full-working order, whereas my original PlayStation was a total nightmare. I never had it chipped or opened it up in any way, yet it still gradually degraded into a worthless piece of nothing by the day. Eventually I was reduced to standing it on its side just to have it load games at half the normal speed.

Now it's the same for this generation. The GC works as though I bought it 2 weeks ago, while the PS2 is just...[bleh]. It works okay, but like I said before, it's showing all the early signs of going boom-boom just like my original system did.

I've always taken good care of the things, which is mirrored by the fact that I've kept every console since the NES in quality condition. It's no mere coincidence that Sony's consoles are the only ones that give me grief. Heck, just head over to the official UK PlayStation forums for more complaints about its questionable quality.

fudge01 December 13th, 2004 2:38 AM

true.... true..... my ps2 screws up and makes funny noises too. Even though i baught my Gamecube Before my ps2 my gamecube has no problems.....

Kairi December 13th, 2004 6:19 AM

I’ve had a toasted Gamecube, PS2, and two Dreamcasts. This comes from playing them so much, I suppose. I’ve have a Playstation since the beginning that’s always worked, though. But I really dobut these handhelds would wear out, since they’d be expensive to cover under warranty.

John Denver December 13th, 2004 7:43 AM

My gcn has yet to lock up, freeze, it did lag a little bit though with PSO, but thats it. My friend bought a PS2 when it came out and he already had to buy a new one cause his old one was breaking down.

My GCN, n64, NES, gameboy, gameboy color and GBA never had an problems, and still work as good as the day I got it. My PS2 however,having it less than a year, is already having problems reading the discs occasioanlly :(

Meh...one can only hope that the PSP breaks this hardware trend of sony's

Carlito-san December 13th, 2004 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dakota
Watch your tone Sarah...you always feel the need to add a little insult in your posts...none of us have attacked you directly, so don't feel like you have to

But when you start off a post saying "At my store this. At my store that" people aren't going to think what you say applies to the rest of the world. Yes, we KNOW that your store sells GCN less than the other 3 systems. We've realized that already, you drill it into our heads in every post.

We KNOW that GCN sells less than PS2, we aren't denying the facts, at least I'm not. But that doesn't change the fact that I think GCN is far superior to the PS2 system wise and game wise.

Booo....ya...

Im not gonna argue with a mod,but i agree with D.And I dont make stuff up.

D,your getting a DS.FF is coming to the DS with FF3 (the real version,the Japanese one) with extra features like the touch screen and a Map.

RoxasOld December 13th, 2004 12:54 PM

PSP has way better graphics than DS. Also, PSP has way better games. Dude. it has Metal Gear Acid! Just that one game makes PSP hundreds of times better than DS. So with the insanely awesome graphics, PSP is thousands of times better than DS

Carlito-san December 13th, 2004 12:58 PM

Do you know what type of game MGA is?2 words:Card Battler

Kairi December 13th, 2004 12:58 PM

Kenishin, that’s the kind of post we don’t need. Just declaring one better than the other gets no where. Even if you had given facts, those kind of posts aren’t well received. You can post about why you think you’ll get one, or why you believe it’ll do better, but don’t flat out make a declaration. =\

Discussion guys, don’t just bat around facts. Discuss the launch, the future, whatever.

billy (post before kenshin's), we have already resolved that issue. Please leave the modding to the mods.

Scyther5 December 14th, 2004 3:24 PM

This might clear up alot on the PSP battery issue. http://psp.ign.com/articles/572/572563p1.html

The whole experiment is about the battery life of the PSP.
Shows about 5 1/2 hours of battery life. :\

Simmons_2.0 December 14th, 2004 4:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenshin11212
PSP has way better graphics than DS. Also, PSP has way better games. Dude. it has Metal Gear Acid! Just that one game makes PSP hundreds of times better than DS. So with the insanely awesome graphics, PSP is thousands of times better than DS


That may be your opinion. But we dont need to hear it!!! It doesnt matter how good the graphics are. As i've said befor ill buy anything as long as it has some decent gameplay.

Brittany December 14th, 2004 4:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jetsam_745
That may be your opinion. But we dont need to hear it!!! It doesnt matter how good the graphics are. As i've said befor ill buy anything as long as it has some decent gameplay.

Abby already told him off XD
No need to continue arguing about a dead problem.

The Fallen December 14th, 2004 4:45 PM

I think both will measure out to be the same.

Simmons_2.0 December 14th, 2004 4:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brittany
Abby already told him off XD
No need to continue arguing about a dead problem.


Wooops sorry about that :nervous:

Brittany December 14th, 2004 4:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetsam_745
Wooops sorry about that :nervous:

'tis okay. I just don't want this thread to go in the wrong direction again.

Corrupt December 14th, 2004 5:16 PM

i like psp grapixs but DS is classic games and touch sceen

John Denver December 14th, 2004 6:40 PM

If Nintendo was smart...they would have released Warioware with it...it opened in Japan with great applaud! But in the us? NOOOOOOOOO!

And they need to make an original game, instead of just a bunch of rerealeses of older games...they're good, but not great!

Simmons_2.0 December 14th, 2004 8:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkShadowSmoke
I think both will measure out to be the same.


They wont measure to be the same one will sell better than other.

Arcanine December 14th, 2004 9:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dakota
If Nintendo was smart...they would have released Warioware with it...it opened in Japan with great applaud! But in the us? NOOOOOOOOO!

And they need to make an original game, instead of just a bunch of rerealeses of older games...they're good, but not great!

If Nintendo were smart then they would have let KH: CoM on the DS. But no, it had to come out on the GBA (I think that was a bad move on the part of Nintendo).

Spanky December 14th, 2004 9:07 PM

I pretty much hate nintendo, I don not support anything of thers, and I believe that the PSP far surpasses the NDS in Style, QUality, Games, and Satisfactorieness

Arcanine December 14th, 2004 9:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spanky
I pretty much hate nintendo, I don not support anything of thers, and I believe that the PSP far surpasses the NDS in Style, QUality, Games, and Satisfactorieness

Read post 178 in this thread (the post was by Kairi) and you will see that your post is posts like she is talking about.

John Denver December 15th, 2004 4:46 AM

Tommy -_-

I ask that NO ONE respond to his rant...we just went 3 pages without any rants or flames we don't want to start it anew...

Brittany December 15th, 2004 6:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tmbjr
interesting how someone that does not support Nintendo at all joins a pokemon-themed webforum...eh?

This is one of those times where I feel like banning Brit and Sarah, but since I have a better sense of respect than that, I'll just leave them this message: What you are saying may be borderline flaming. These members were having a blissful time ignorantly thinking the DS is better, but you guys have to come in and flame them and impress your opinion upon them. At least Kenny stated respectfully that his opinions was his and he didn't want to impress it on us. Just let these people be blissfully ignorant with their supprt for the DS. All you two ever had to do was post, "I support the PSP for the following reasons:..." and then leave.

/end rant

*FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME*

/rant

Actually, I think I'll take Dakota's advice on this one XD

KLS December 15th, 2004 6:17 AM

in my opinion
both have potential,
however the DS is certainly quite a shock
2 screens and using a *pen* to control what you do, and you can chat with your friends.
the competition's tough for PSP.

Chase Leader December 15th, 2004 7:44 AM

Brittany, you're a mod, are you being dumb or something? Mods shouldn't act the way you just did. Your setting a horrible example...do all mods act like you do?

Geez, this is dissapointing. I've been to plenty of boards, and moderators and such would never act the way YOU just did.

By the way, I think is PSP better :P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P

John Denver December 15th, 2004 7:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overlord Sato
Brittany, you're a mod, are you being dumb or something? Mods shouldn't act the way you just did. Your setting a horrible example...do all mods act like you do?

Geez, this is dissapointing. I've been to plenty of boards, and moderators and such would never act the way YOU just did.

By the way, I think is PSP better :P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P

Heh, your barley a member here and you already know what your talking about more than Brit probably does...Ok you guys, seriously...No more ranting, flaming, attacking bashing or whatever else...geez

And frankly, I think the PSP and DS are EVEN!! I used to think DS was better, but the good and the bad simply do each other in. However, once a really good game for the DS comes out, I may have to change my mind.

Same goes for PSP with me...I mean if FF8 came out for it, I'm THERE! But if a Zelda game came out for it, I'm there as well. It's a double edged sword I'd say...BOO ya!

Kairi December 15th, 2004 8:09 AM

Tommy…maybe you should read through the thread. Do you see how I handled specific incidents and lead to topic back on course? This is called “effective modding”

A generic attack does nothing. I mean, wtf here, seriously? There haven’t been any flames, and I’ve stopped them both ways., the PSP haters and the DS haters. (And if you want to discuss this further, PM me.)

And Brittany, it doesn’t help if you accuse him like that. You’re not even the games mod. -.- Now so much as one more stupid post, and this is going to get closed. Come on here guys-I know this is a Pokémon forum, but let’s show more IQ than the average Pokémon, please.

And sorry Dakota, but I have to put a stop to all flaming, even his. Let's hope that's the last of it.

IceKitten December 15th, 2004 8:26 AM

Kind of off-topic but is Pearl/Diamond only coming out for DS?

Brittany December 15th, 2004 8:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tig
Kind of off-topic but is Pearl/Diamond only coming out for DS?

Yes. Pokemon is a pretty Nintendo-ish thing at the moment, and it seems like it will stay that way in the near future and beyond

IceKitten December 15th, 2004 8:36 AM

Aww, I've used my GBA for ages but now (well not now XD) I'll have to get a better one =/

Kairi December 15th, 2004 9:50 AM

I think he knew it was staying Nintendo, but didn’t know if it was GBA or DS. Both Dash and Diamond/Pearl are DS games. ^_^;

Skarmory469 December 15th, 2004 9:51 AM

You can ask to have a DS and Pokémon Pearl/Diamond for Christmas 2005

JoWood December 15th, 2004 3:04 PM

I still this is a matter of outsourcing, which is Sony's hope for the PSP. If people believe that this device can play video games, music, movies, type, use a camera better than other top-leading devices then no doubt that PSP will triumph over the DS. HOWEVER, Nintendo has offered a innovation technology to gaming. People are complaining because top-entertainment games aren't due to release on the DS. This is a new beginning for handheld technology, we went from 2-D graphics to 3-D with excellent graphics. Now Nintendo has extended this to original way of gaming, and if society wants to look past this then fine. It's their lost anyway.

A lotta Sony fans are too liberal to see it this way, but it's the truth. Inferior comparisons have been made about graphics, design, and sound. The DS offers the type of gameplay as the X-Box, PS2, GCN, and ultimately the PSP. The reverse to any of these systems is not true. Its only a matter of time before the people who've said graphics and design are top comparisons to the DS and PSP are eliminated from the existance of gaming.

Carlito-san December 15th, 2004 3:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arcanine
If Nintendo were smart then they would have let KH: CoM on the DS. But no, it had to come out on the GBA (I think that was a bad move on the part of Nintendo).

See,Andy,Squenix started working on this just before the DS was announced.that's why.

Kairi December 15th, 2004 3:20 PM

How so? Graphics actually do influence gameplay. The DS doesn’t offer the same quality of graphics as any of the other consoles. If more power wasn’t essential, why would have Sony and Nintendo moved past the PS2 and the N64? Presentation is an important part of gameplay.

Among the improvements the PS2 and GCN had over the PSX and the N64 is the amount of data a game can store. This is also something the PSP has over the DS. Does it guarantee a better game? No. Does it give developers more to work with, and make it more appealing to develop for? Yes.

The DS does have a lot of uniqueness to it. But unless those features it has over the PSP are enough to overcome its other hurdles, it won’t do well. I’m not saying if this is true or not. I’m just saying don’t think that new ideas always work out, and produce better games.

Carlito-san December 15th, 2004 3:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kairi
How so? Graphics actually do influence gameplay. The DS doesn’t offer the same quality of graphics as any of the other consoles. If more power wasn’t essential, why would have Sony and Nintendo moved past the PS2 and the N64? Presentation is an important part of gameplay.

Among the improvements the PS2 and GCN had over the PSX and the N64 is the amount of data a game can store. This is also something the PSP has over the DS. Does it guarantee a better game? No. Does it give developers more to work with, and make it more appealing to develop for? Yes.

The DS does have a lot of uniqueness to it. But unless those features it has over the PSP are enough to overcome its other hurdles, it won’t do well. I’m not saying if this is true or not .I’m just saying don’t think that new idea always work, and produce better games.

You talking to me?XD

Kairi December 15th, 2004 3:22 PM

Talking to Jowood, mostly. ^_^;

Carlito-san December 15th, 2004 3:26 PM

I see.But graphics dont nessesarily make a system.Would you rather play a game of a stick running aroud in circles in the best graphical game ever,or play an incredibly fun 16-bit game?

Kairi December 15th, 2004 3:32 PM

That’s what I said, kind of. Graphics don’t necessarily make a good game. Bigger storagre space doesn’t necessarily make a good game. Touch control doesn’t necessarily make a good game. Sony doesn’t necessarily make a good game. Nintendo doesn’t necessarily make a good game.

The DS offers low-res 3D and many modes of interaction, two screens. PSP offers more powerful hardware. Both of these are appealing to different developers. Just because a game has bad graphics, doesn’t mean it’s bad. Just because a game has good graphics, it doesn’t mean there isn't more to it.

However, in gaming, consoles have been moving up in power, and it’s worked well. We could have stayed in 16-bit forever, but we would have never had the highly praised Mario 64. Or Final Fantasy 7.

I personally think portable gaming is a waste. However, I will not deny many disagree with me. What I’m saying is I wouldn’t put too much stock into EITHER of them. There are no guarantees any of the good points for either system will make it a winner.

Carlito-san December 15th, 2004 3:35 PM

See,thats what i like about you.You are never Biased.

Brittany December 15th, 2004 3:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoWood
I still this is a matter of outsourcing, which is Sony's hope for the PSP. If people believe that this device can play video games, music, movies, type, use a camera better than other top-leading devices then no doubt that PSP will triumph over the DS. HOWEVER, Nintendo has offered a innovation technology to gaming. People are complaining because top-entertainment games aren't due to release on the DS. This is a new beginning for handheld technology, we went from 2-D graphics to 3-D with excellent graphics. Now Nintendo has extended this to original way of gaming, and if society wants to look past this then fine. It's their lost anyway.

A lotta Sony fans are too liberal to see it this way, but it's the truth. Inferior comparisons have been made about graphics, design, and sound. The DS offers the type of gameplay as the X-Box, PS2, GCN, and ultimately the PSP. The reverse to any of these systems is not true. Its only a matter of time before the people who've said graphics and design are top comparisons to the DS and PSP are eliminated from the existance of gaming.

I think that Nintendo's 'innovations' are really just novelties, but I guess only time can tell whether or not I am right.

While we're waiting... well, what is the whole thing about 'going from 2-D to 3-D with excellent graphics'? We all know that PSP has better graphics, so to argue about it seems kinda useless. If you were using it as a stand-alone point for the DS, I could see your point, but because you are also attacking the PSP in your post, it seems like you're trying to prove that it's better in this aspect, which it isn't. (correct me if you weren't attacking the PSP on this issue)

And I don't see the 'The DS offers the type of gameplay as the X-Box, PS2, GCN, and ultimately the PSP' part either. PSP offers all of the types of gameplay as those products too. The DS's strength doesn't lie within it's compatibility with the old, but rather it's new features, which may or may not be accepted in the gaming community. Some of it's attributes have potential, but only time can tell if they live up to all of the hype. We have so little to base it on with it's starting line-up of games.

I don't think we can assume anything right now. Until more titles are released and experienced, we can only consider everything that we 'know' about them speculation.(aside from the machine's specs)

Lucifer. December 16th, 2004 1:31 PM

That new Mario side-scroller for the DS looks amazing. Could be a return to form for the series after the fairly disappointing Mario Sunshine.

JoWood December 17th, 2004 5:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brittany
I think that Nintendo's 'innovations' are really just novelties, but I guess only time can tell whether or not I am right.

While we're waiting... well, what is the whole thing about 'going from 2-D to 3-D with excellent graphics'? We all know that PSP has better graphics, so to argue about it seems kinda useless. If you were using it as a stand-alone point for the DS, I could see your point, but because you are also attacking the PSP in your post, it seems like you're trying to prove that it's better in this aspect, which it isn't. (correct me if you weren't attacking the PSP on this issue)

And I don't see the 'The DS offers the type of gameplay as the X-Box, PS2, GCN, and ultimately the PSP' part either. PSP offers all of the types of gameplay as those products too. The DS's strength doesn't lie within it's compatibility with the old, but rather it's new features, which may or may not be accepted in the gaming community. Some of it's attributes have potential, but only time can tell if they live up to all of the hype. We have so little to base it on with it's starting line-up of games.

I don't think we can assume anything right now. Until more titles are released and experienced, we can only consider everything that we 'know' about them speculation.(aside from the machine's specs)

Like I said in my last post, comparisions are being simply off the horsepower of both consoles. Of course PSP has better graphics, we know this from the first post of the thread. But can you play the same way you play on the DS? No, you can't, simply because the DS offers features that innovate the gaming experience.

PSP cannot offer the experience of interaction within the game such as DS. If you are buying the PSP for gameplay why not go with the DS? It offers the same gameplay plus innovative features the PSP doesn't. AS Kairi said, the gaming community is mostly 17-25 year-olds who make feeble-minded comparisions simply based off of horsepower.

Of course the DS features could be great! But producers are having a hard time making use of all the features. It'll be difficult to utilize all the features. Why? Because it's somthing we aren't used to! (What we are used to to is the PSP.)

C my point?

Brittany December 17th, 2004 5:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoWood
Like I said in my last post, comparisions are being simply off the horsepower of both consoles. Of course PSP has better graphics, we know this from the first post of the thread. But can you play the same way you play on the DS? No, you can't, simply because the DS offers features that innovate the gaming experience.

Some people(namely Sony fans; Example: Me) don't really like the way the DS 'innovates' our gaming experiences. It's not that we don't recognize the features- we just don't like them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoWood
PSP cannot offer the experience of interaction within the game such as DS. If you are buying the PSP for gameplay why not go with the DS? It offers the same gameplay plus innovative features the PSP doesn't. AS Kairi said, the gaming community is mostly 17-25 year-olds who make feeble-minded comparisions simply based off of horsepower.

Like I said in the first post, some of us don't really care for those features, which just leaves our decision to the handhelds' specifications and the games that are released for both of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoWood
Of course the DS features could be great! But producers are having a hard time making use of all the features. It'll be difficult to utilize all the features. Why? Because it's somthing we aren't used to! (What we are used to to is the PSP.)

Well, yes it wil be different for companies to make DS games. As for the rest of your statement, it's the same idea as my first two points. XD

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoWood
C my point?

Yeah, I C it. I still like PSP better :P


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