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What is the N-gage?I've heard of the "taco"game player.is that it?
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I'm just kidding anyways, but I like see this exactly the opposite way as you do xD Touch screen, stylus? Pictochat?(hey, it's close enough XD) I guess it's because it has a bunch of features(that are useless in my opinion), but anyways.... |
Ummm...no. go to www.n-gage.com [I think that's the URL...0.0]
It was a failed portable/phone from Nokia. =/ |
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But even at that point, I see this differently xD |
JK.....but it really does look like a taco!i saw ssomeone with one,and bursted out laughing.Poor person...
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I don't know how you can call pictochat useless, but, meh, not everyone was gifted with as much brains as me =P [J/K Brit, after all, I didn't make it past Prez pre-lims!] |
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Anywho, lets get back on topic. Does anyone wonder what the heck FFVII: CC is about? Square is coming off with so many FFVII spinoffs, heck, they might as well change the company name to FFVII. Lets see, FFVII: AC, BC, CC, DC. I see some sort of pattern forming XD |
I chose DS cause I have one.And I love it!
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Anyways, I'll probably be getting the DS, since it has Pictochat, and more games that I'm interested in (but I'll probably eventually get a PSP). |
Wuvable DS!
Our wuvable DS and his PSP buddies!
Aww, isn't it cute? :P No? I thought so >.< |
Welll ill be getting DS, simply because i hate sony. Why did mom get a sony camera why!? And nintendos portable Games and gameplay for thier portable systems are superb. I mean look at the NGage they thought it would sell and it fell flat on its face. And people tink some systems are the best because of thier grapics, thats not right i could care less about the graphics as long as it good gameplay. And PSP doesent sound very addictive to me.
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it :snea: |
I have the DS, wich I love, but I plan on getting the PSP too when it debuts. So I'm not saying anything until I have both, but Nintendo will win me over with the better games, but PSP will do the same with the features and graphics.
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The problem (okay, one of the many) problems with the Ngage is that all the developers try to overreach and indulge themselves in a fantasy that the Ngage has the power to make decent looking 3D games, and play them well. It doesn’t.
Really, we can't say either way on the PSP. We can on the DS. Dakota is a good example of this. He had high hopes for it, but its reality didn't live up to those. We won't know if the PSP does until it launches. |
Well then I made a donkey of myself. >P
The DS has sold well too, but that doesn’t mean it’s going to do well in the long run, either. Too soon to really call that. |
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Well he said atm it’s underwhelming, and I have to agree, that’s probably the best word at the moment for it. So yes, it’s possible, but grows less likely the longer they wait.
Sawah – but the vast majority of sales don’t take place there. Only the real fans are going to get them from there. Like I said, Sony fans will flock to the PSP; Nintendo fans to the DS. Because they trust the company, for the most part. And as for the price difference, well the PSP isn’t out in the states yet, right? o_O That’d kinda explain it. How much does the unit retail for normally anyways? |
I think DS pwns PSP, but as neither of them have been released I can't tell ^^;;
I want a DS, because Nintendo have always released quality games and I predict that PSP will be plagued with PS2 games. >.> |
Yep, that's true. I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo's next system uses that same game as a launch title.
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Although it would've been nice to see a brand-new 2D Mario platformer. |
Meh.... I might end up getting them both... so meh... lol. PSP for graphics and games, and DS for Nintendo-respective games, like Zelda and Pokemon.... bah... I am gonna be ppoor XD
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i say ds because imo its better and with touch screen it makes it more better,cooler and sexier. lol jking about the last one.
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Nobody answered my question...
When does the PSP come Stateside? |
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PSP may have more powerful specs, but Nintendo and the DS have a better track record. A lot of people trust Nintendo for their quality games, and they are looking forward to some awesome games in the future. |
Same with Sony. And as such, both systems will have people inherently locking to their systems. It’s getting people who weren’t interested in their system to buy it, that’s the challenge.
It comes down to can new control types and inferior specs do that, or superior specs and traditional controls do it. |
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*dies laughing* =X Sorries >.< |
No offence to Brit,but you are kinda a Sony person.Not Fangirl,just,likes them more than nintendo.Track Record?you mean the 16 Handhelds that Trashed Compition for 10+ years?
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In terms of quality hardware, Nintendo has Sony licked. The Gamecube may not have the massive third-party backing that the PS2 has, but it's infinitely better in terms of reliability and overrall lifespan.
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It's not just that. My friends and I have been suffering from PS2 problems for quite some time now. I've replaced mine for the silver model once already, and now some annoyances that plagued the old PS2 are starting to creep in again. Vibrating disk tray, loud whirring/clicking noises, etc. By my reckoning the next step is DREs, and finally the inability to load Final Fantasy FMVs. Which just isn't on. XD
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And why does track record matter? Sony doesn't have a track record in this area, so to say that Nintendo's is 'better', is a very biased assumption in my opinion. They did it with PS2 vs GCN, they can do it again :P Quote:
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Yes.But GCN BEAT PS2.Also,my facts are not false either Brit.
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And no, GCN didn't beat PS2. PS2 outsells GCN in games and systems. |
What?Um...No it hasnt been.
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Course, there was the year when GCN released Wind Waker...heh...nobody could touch it ;) |
W/E....I Still like it more.and Sawah,thats just your store.
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But I already know that PS2 sells more than GCN |
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I'm sure she would all of the figures loose to PC, but I think she wants to keep her job XD |
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But when you start off a post saying "At my store this. At my store that" people aren't going to think what you say applies to the rest of the world. Yes, we KNOW that your store sells GCN less than the other 3 systems. We've realized that already, you drill it into our heads in every post. We KNOW that GCN sells less than PS2, we aren't denying the facts, at least I'm not. But that doesn't change the fact that I think GCN is far superior to the PS2 system wise and game wise. Booo....ya... |
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It annoys me when someone spends thier time defending false information(intentional or not), and fails to accept the truth, even from people that have the capacity to be know-it-alls like you or I. I'm sure that there are other people that want to defend DS with real facts in this thread, but until then, people need to stop pretending that thier opinions and false information are facts. It just doesn't work that way. I'm not directing this to anyone specifically, but please just think about what you type before you actually post it people. Ask yourself if it's actually been confirmed, or is it the best explanation you could think of, off the top of your head? And to Dakota, at least you write say that you think it is, rather than automatically saying it's fact, or implying that your opinion is better than another's. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But nobody can make up a fact. |
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@D, well, like she said, it’s the expectations. If the EB only sent 4 copies, it means they must have experienced poor sales of GCN titles before. @Brit 2: No. No no no. You are not the games mod. Don’t tell people how to act. Yes, they may have been making up stuff about the GCN versus the PS2. All you can do is tell them the facts. If they refuse to accept that, you need not point it out. Cause that’s what strts the flames. This topic is no longer about the DS and the PSP, but about facts and acceptance and thread behavior. And that’s very very bad. So cool down, and let’s all find a new topic about the DS/PSP. |
Hmm, some would consider jumping into a thread and posting every thought that comes to their head spam, but I guess not.
Even when I tried to start a lil' conversation about some PSP games, someone had to come in and make up information about them, which makes discussion almost impossible, unless you're a DS lover. I'll back off for a while. |
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And Brit, ugh, I can't begin to explain how everything you just posted applies 100% to you more than anyone. Although, ashamed as I am to admit, most of the fanboys in this thread do support the DS with faulty info. The things I do know that are fact PSP is slightly faster and has better graphics than the DS DS has a wider amount of extra features PSP is lead by a team with no experience in handhelds DS is lead by a team a decades amount of experince in handhelds UMDs hold more than the DS boxes The PSP's battery life for games is around 6 hours-ish The DS's battery life for games is around 10 or 12 (I think, I might have to check) And that is, I think, the extent of my knowledge... *struts off* |
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"Brit, you don't know the battery life!" "Brit, you don't know what the price will be!" Remember this stuff? People said I didn't know anything about this stuff. But now that the results are public, who's right? Quote:
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Brittany, stop it. Right now. Proving yourself right is getting nowhere but very very close to getting this thread closed. You could have talked about how the PSPs power will make for a different style of gameplay, and how that’ll help it. You could have said you didn’t feel the DS’s abilities matched that.
But you are intent on proving you were right, he was wrong. That’s not the point of the thread. Last warning, if this thread doesn’t go 100% PSP/DS, it’s closed. |
How long is the battery life of the PSP?
Sony Computer Entertainment has made measurements of the PSP's abilities, based on technical standards and in-game performance of work-in-progress games. On October 27, 2004, the company announced that the typical battery life for the PSP will be between 4 and 6 hours for games, with 4-5 hours for video viewing. These numbers, according to SCE, were determined with the system's luminance set to maximum (180 cd/m2) and minimum (80 cd/m2), volume set to half the maximum level, headphones used instead of speakers and wireless LAN not in use. SCE has described its 1,800mAh battery to be able to power the unit for as long as typical battery-based portable electronics, which would include portable DVD and MP3 players as well as other game systems. At E3 2004 in May, SCE estimated the PSP's battery life to run between 2 1/2 and 10 hours. The PSP's various CPUs are scalable, and usage of the UMD disc drive may depend between different types of games and game engines. ~ IGN ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just what I found off IGN, for the record I support both systems..so Im not for one more than the other. |
Okay guys, here’s a good opportunity. He posted a snippet of an article from a website. Now, if you wish to refute this fact, you can find a credible source, and offer proof. This is where facts come in. However, if you don’t really add anything like how it would affect the PSP IF that were true, you’re just tossing around facts.
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Tales of Symphonia
Zelda Final Fantasy Golden Sun Smash Melee If the DS came out with ANY of these kinds of games...I would buy it in a snap *wonder if they can make DDR on the PSP* |
@ Kairi ~I'm just trying to clear things up since the battery life seems to be a giant Issue.
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They have a DDR on the computer, but I don’t think the real DDR fans would want a version without…you know, activity. O_o;
And ToS is now on the PS2, too, so I dunno if it’d be developed exclusively for the PSP. Or both, since as the first post shows, there’s a big difference in hardware. And I understand. ^_^; Your post was fine, jjust using it in example. |
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And PSP could infact handle DDR, but what's the point? XD |
Well, that article was the most up to date one I've found.
Also, from that article it sounds like the PSP is going to have an MP3, is that true? |
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Oh, thats pretty cool. Then I guess they where obviusly talking about the DVD( or what ever it is) battery life.
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Now it's the same for this generation. The GC works as though I bought it 2 weeks ago, while the PS2 is just...[bleh]. It works okay, but like I said before, it's showing all the early signs of going boom-boom just like my original system did. I've always taken good care of the things, which is mirrored by the fact that I've kept every console since the NES in quality condition. It's no mere coincidence that Sony's consoles are the only ones that give me grief. Heck, just head over to the official UK PlayStation forums for more complaints about its questionable quality. |
true.... true..... my ps2 screws up and makes funny noises too. Even though i baught my Gamecube Before my ps2 my gamecube has no problems.....
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I’ve had a toasted Gamecube, PS2, and two Dreamcasts. This comes from playing them so much, I suppose. I’ve have a Playstation since the beginning that’s always worked, though. But I really dobut these handhelds would wear out, since they’d be expensive to cover under warranty.
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My gcn has yet to lock up, freeze, it did lag a little bit though with PSO, but thats it. My friend bought a PS2 when it came out and he already had to buy a new one cause his old one was breaking down.
My GCN, n64, NES, gameboy, gameboy color and GBA never had an problems, and still work as good as the day I got it. My PS2 however,having it less than a year, is already having problems reading the discs occasioanlly :( Meh...one can only hope that the PSP breaks this hardware trend of sony's |
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D,your getting a DS.FF is coming to the DS with FF3 (the real version,the Japanese one) with extra features like the touch screen and a Map. |
PSP has way better graphics than DS. Also, PSP has way better games. Dude. it has Metal Gear Acid! Just that one game makes PSP hundreds of times better than DS. So with the insanely awesome graphics, PSP is thousands of times better than DS
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Do you know what type of game MGA is?2 words:Card Battler
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Kenishin, that’s the kind of post we don’t need. Just declaring one better than the other gets no where. Even if you had given facts, those kind of posts aren’t well received. You can post about why you think you’ll get one, or why you believe it’ll do better, but don’t flat out make a declaration. =\
Discussion guys, don’t just bat around facts. Discuss the launch, the future, whatever. billy (post before kenshin's), we have already resolved that issue. Please leave the modding to the mods. |
This might clear up alot on the PSP battery issue. http://psp.ign.com/articles/572/572563p1.html
The whole experiment is about the battery life of the PSP. Shows about 5 1/2 hours of battery life. :\ |
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That may be your opinion. But we dont need to hear it!!! It doesnt matter how good the graphics are. As i've said befor ill buy anything as long as it has some decent gameplay. |
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No need to continue arguing about a dead problem. |
I think both will measure out to be the same.
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Wooops sorry about that :nervous: |
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i like psp grapixs but DS is classic games and touch sceen
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If Nintendo was smart...they would have released Warioware with it...it opened in Japan with great applaud! But in the us? NOOOOOOOOO!
And they need to make an original game, instead of just a bunch of rerealeses of older games...they're good, but not great! |
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They wont measure to be the same one will sell better than other. |
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I pretty much hate nintendo, I don not support anything of thers, and I believe that the PSP far surpasses the NDS in Style, QUality, Games, and Satisfactorieness
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Tommy -_-
I ask that NO ONE respond to his rant...we just went 3 pages without any rants or flames we don't want to start it anew... |
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/rant Actually, I think I'll take Dakota's advice on this one XD |
in my opinion
both have potential, however the DS is certainly quite a shock 2 screens and using a *pen* to control what you do, and you can chat with your friends. the competition's tough for PSP. |
Brittany, you're a mod, are you being dumb or something? Mods shouldn't act the way you just did. Your setting a horrible example...do all mods act like you do?
Geez, this is dissapointing. I've been to plenty of boards, and moderators and such would never act the way YOU just did. By the way, I think is PSP better :P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P |
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And frankly, I think the PSP and DS are EVEN!! I used to think DS was better, but the good and the bad simply do each other in. However, once a really good game for the DS comes out, I may have to change my mind. Same goes for PSP with me...I mean if FF8 came out for it, I'm THERE! But if a Zelda game came out for it, I'm there as well. It's a double edged sword I'd say...BOO ya! |
Tommy…maybe you should read through the thread. Do you see how I handled specific incidents and lead to topic back on course? This is called “effective modding”
A generic attack does nothing. I mean, wtf here, seriously? There haven’t been any flames, and I’ve stopped them both ways., the PSP haters and the DS haters. (And if you want to discuss this further, PM me.) And Brittany, it doesn’t help if you accuse him like that. You’re not even the games mod. -.- Now so much as one more stupid post, and this is going to get closed. Come on here guys-I know this is a Pokémon forum, but let’s show more IQ than the average Pokémon, please. And sorry Dakota, but I have to put a stop to all flaming, even his. Let's hope that's the last of it. |
Kind of off-topic but is Pearl/Diamond only coming out for DS?
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Aww, I've used my GBA for ages but now (well not now XD) I'll have to get a better one =/
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I think he knew it was staying Nintendo, but didn’t know if it was GBA or DS. Both Dash and Diamond/Pearl are DS games. ^_^;
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You can ask to have a DS and Pokémon Pearl/Diamond for Christmas 2005
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I still this is a matter of outsourcing, which is Sony's hope for the PSP. If people believe that this device can play video games, music, movies, type, use a camera better than other top-leading devices then no doubt that PSP will triumph over the DS. HOWEVER, Nintendo has offered a innovation technology to gaming. People are complaining because top-entertainment games aren't due to release on the DS. This is a new beginning for handheld technology, we went from 2-D graphics to 3-D with excellent graphics. Now Nintendo has extended this to original way of gaming, and if society wants to look past this then fine. It's their lost anyway.
A lotta Sony fans are too liberal to see it this way, but it's the truth. Inferior comparisons have been made about graphics, design, and sound. The DS offers the type of gameplay as the X-Box, PS2, GCN, and ultimately the PSP. The reverse to any of these systems is not true. Its only a matter of time before the people who've said graphics and design are top comparisons to the DS and PSP are eliminated from the existance of gaming. |
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How so? Graphics actually do influence gameplay. The DS doesn’t offer the same quality of graphics as any of the other consoles. If more power wasn’t essential, why would have Sony and Nintendo moved past the PS2 and the N64? Presentation is an important part of gameplay.
Among the improvements the PS2 and GCN had over the PSX and the N64 is the amount of data a game can store. This is also something the PSP has over the DS. Does it guarantee a better game? No. Does it give developers more to work with, and make it more appealing to develop for? Yes. The DS does have a lot of uniqueness to it. But unless those features it has over the PSP are enough to overcome its other hurdles, it won’t do well. I’m not saying if this is true or not. I’m just saying don’t think that new ideas always work out, and produce better games. |
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Talking to Jowood, mostly. ^_^;
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I see.But graphics dont nessesarily make a system.Would you rather play a game of a stick running aroud in circles in the best graphical game ever,or play an incredibly fun 16-bit game?
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That’s what I said, kind of. Graphics don’t necessarily make a good game. Bigger storagre space doesn’t necessarily make a good game. Touch control doesn’t necessarily make a good game. Sony doesn’t necessarily make a good game. Nintendo doesn’t necessarily make a good game.
The DS offers low-res 3D and many modes of interaction, two screens. PSP offers more powerful hardware. Both of these are appealing to different developers. Just because a game has bad graphics, doesn’t mean it’s bad. Just because a game has good graphics, it doesn’t mean there isn't more to it. However, in gaming, consoles have been moving up in power, and it’s worked well. We could have stayed in 16-bit forever, but we would have never had the highly praised Mario 64. Or Final Fantasy 7. I personally think portable gaming is a waste. However, I will not deny many disagree with me. What I’m saying is I wouldn’t put too much stock into EITHER of them. There are no guarantees any of the good points for either system will make it a winner. |
See,thats what i like about you.You are never Biased.
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While we're waiting... well, what is the whole thing about 'going from 2-D to 3-D with excellent graphics'? We all know that PSP has better graphics, so to argue about it seems kinda useless. If you were using it as a stand-alone point for the DS, I could see your point, but because you are also attacking the PSP in your post, it seems like you're trying to prove that it's better in this aspect, which it isn't. (correct me if you weren't attacking the PSP on this issue) And I don't see the 'The DS offers the type of gameplay as the X-Box, PS2, GCN, and ultimately the PSP' part either. PSP offers all of the types of gameplay as those products too. The DS's strength doesn't lie within it's compatibility with the old, but rather it's new features, which may or may not be accepted in the gaming community. Some of it's attributes have potential, but only time can tell if they live up to all of the hype. We have so little to base it on with it's starting line-up of games. I don't think we can assume anything right now. Until more titles are released and experienced, we can only consider everything that we 'know' about them speculation.(aside from the machine's specs) |
That new Mario side-scroller for the DS looks amazing. Could be a return to form for the series after the fairly disappointing Mario Sunshine.
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PSP cannot offer the experience of interaction within the game such as DS. If you are buying the PSP for gameplay why not go with the DS? It offers the same gameplay plus innovative features the PSP doesn't. AS Kairi said, the gaming community is mostly 17-25 year-olds who make feeble-minded comparisions simply based off of horsepower. Of course the DS features could be great! But producers are having a hard time making use of all the features. It'll be difficult to utilize all the features. Why? Because it's somthing we aren't used to! (What we are used to to is the PSP.) C my point? |
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