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Kairi December 12th, 2004 12:35 PM

Same with Sony. And as such, both systems will have people inherently locking to their systems. It’s getting people who weren’t interested in their system to buy it, that’s the challenge.

It comes down to can new control types and inferior specs do that, or superior specs and traditional controls do it.

Brittany December 12th, 2004 3:40 PM

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Originally Posted by billybob
FF7:CC is about FF7:AC,but battleing with Cards.*coughMGScough*

Sorry, but WTH are you talking about? FFVII:CC has no info released yet, aside from the fact that it is an action RPG for PSP that is being released late 2005.
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Originally Posted by tmbjr
I may be wrong, but I heard it comes to the U.S in Summer of 2005.

PSP may have more powerful specs, but Nintendo and the DS have a better track record. A lot of people trust Nintendo for their quality games, and they are looking forward to some awesome games in the future.

Better track record? You mean GameCube?
*dies laughing*
=X
Sorries >.<

Carlito-san December 12th, 2004 3:45 PM

No offence to Brit,but you are kinda a Sony person.Not Fangirl,just,likes them more than nintendo.Track Record?you mean the 16 Handhelds that Trashed Compition for 10+ years?

Lucifer. December 12th, 2004 3:52 PM

In terms of quality hardware, Nintendo has Sony licked. The Gamecube may not have the massive third-party backing that the PS2 has, but it's infinitely better in terms of reliability and overrall lifespan.

Carlito-san December 12th, 2004 3:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucifer
In terms of quality hardware, Nintendo has Sony licked. The Gamecube may not have the massive third-party backing that the PS2 has, but it's infinitely better in terms of reliability and overrall lifespan.

Yes.Have youve ever heard of a DRE on the Gamcube?No?Because there hasnt been one.(that has been reported)

Lucifer. December 12th, 2004 4:01 PM

It's not just that. My friends and I have been suffering from PS2 problems for quite some time now. I've replaced mine for the silver model once already, and now some annoyances that plagued the old PS2 are starting to creep in again. Vibrating disk tray, loud whirring/clicking noises, etc. By my reckoning the next step is DREs, and finally the inability to load Final Fantasy FMVs. Which just isn't on. XD

Brittany December 12th, 2004 5:28 PM

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Originally Posted by billybob
No offence to Brit,but you are kinda a Sony person.Not Fangirl,just,likes them more than nintendo.Track Record?you mean the 16 Handhelds that Trashed Compition for 10+ years?

I am a Sony person. At least I use cold hard facts to back my opinions. At any rate, the minority of my points lie in my opinion, because I have had to clear up false information 90% of the time XD

And why does track record matter? Sony doesn't have a track record in this area, so to say that Nintendo's is 'better', is a very biased assumption in my opinion. They did it with PS2 vs GCN, they can do it again :P
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Originally Posted by Lucifer
In terms of quality hardware, Nintendo has Sony licked. The Gamecube may not have the massive third-party backing that the PS2 has, but it's infinitely better in terms of reliability and overrall lifespan.

I disagree strongly. I don't have anything else to say XD
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Originally Posted by billybob
Yes.Have youve ever heard of a DRE on the Gamcube?No?Because there hasnt been one.(that has been reported)

Yes, I have heard of a DRE on GameCube.

Carlito-san December 12th, 2004 5:30 PM

Yes.But GCN BEAT PS2.Also,my facts are not false either Brit.

Brittany December 12th, 2004 5:38 PM

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Originally Posted by billybob
Yes.But GCN BEAT PS2.Also,my facts are not false either Brit.

I didn't accuse you of having false info. I just said that there was false info in this thread. Even so, I know that the people posting it aren't doing it because they are lying, they're just misinformed.

And no, GCN didn't beat PS2. PS2 outsells GCN in games and systems.

Carlito-san December 12th, 2004 5:40 PM

What?Um...No it hasnt been.

Brittany December 12th, 2004 5:41 PM

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Originally Posted by billybob
What?Um...No it hasnt been.

Yes it has. I won't continue arguing this, it's an unaviodable fact.

John Denver December 12th, 2004 5:42 PM

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Originally Posted by billybob
What?Um...No it hasnt been.

Actually, I think PS2 does outsell GCN...I'm not saying I like PS2 better, but hey, facts are facts...

Course, there was the year when GCN released Wind Waker...heh...nobody could touch it ;)

Carlito-san December 12th, 2004 5:44 PM

W/E....I Still like it more.and Sawah,thats just your store.

John Denver December 12th, 2004 5:46 PM

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Originally Posted by a1337a
Yup, the GCN constantly outsells the PS2.
TBest seen when a multi format title comes out, let's use NFSU2 as an example.
On the day it was released we got in my store..
108 copies on PS2 @ $99.95 each
64 copies on Xbox @ $99.95 each
4 copies on GCN @ $69.95 each
Now, at the end of launch day, we'd sold out of the PS2 version, sold out of the Xbox version, and still had THREE copies left on the GCN.
Now, given it has better graphics, runs faster, and is CHEAPER, why do you think it sold so poorly in comparison? Cause so few people have a Gamecube by comparison. Which means, DUN DUN DUN, that the PS2 and Xbox are beating it.

So dont make up stuff, please.
It's because of people like you making up stuff that flamewars break out.

Thats the sells for your specific store though Sarah...if we went by Country, then X-box is barely selling at all in Japan...whereas GCN is beating it...

But I already know that PS2 sells more than GCN

Brittany December 12th, 2004 5:47 PM

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Originally Posted by billybob
W/E....I Still like it more.and Sawah,thats just your store.

Sawah has access to world figures too :P
I'm sure she would all of the figures loose to PC, but I think she wants to keep her job XD

Carlito-san December 12th, 2004 5:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dakota
Thats the sells for your specific store though Sarah...if we went by Country, then X-box is barely selling at all in Japan...whereas GCN is beating it...

But I already know that PS2 sells more than GCN

D,thats only in america.Only 1/16 of the world.

John Denver December 12th, 2004 6:09 PM

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Originally Posted by a1337a
People like to say that when I present them with raw facts.
"Oh, thats just YOUR store".
Well the argument is old, think up something else cause I'm gonna dispell it.
Think about it. Head office sent us FOUR copies only on the GCN, because they knew it wouldn't sell well. Now, why do you think they'd do that? Could it be they know the GCN is just the system no-one wants?
I bet if I looked up store allocation when I'm at work, I'd see that 4 copies is about standard for what every store got.
You gotta understand, Nintendo Fanboi, that I work from facts.
I dont make up crap, like you.

Watch your tone Sarah...you always feel the need to add a little insult in your posts...none of us have attacked you directly, so don't feel like you have to

But when you start off a post saying "At my store this. At my store that" people aren't going to think what you say applies to the rest of the world. Yes, we KNOW that your store sells GCN less than the other 3 systems. We've realized that already, you drill it into our heads in every post.

We KNOW that GCN sells less than PS2, we aren't denying the facts, at least I'm not. But that doesn't change the fact that I think GCN is far superior to the PS2 system wise and game wise.

Booo....ya...

Brittany December 12th, 2004 6:11 PM

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Originally Posted by a1337a
People like to say that when I present them with raw facts.
"Oh, thats just YOUR store".
Well the argument is old, think up something else cause I'm gonna dispell it.
Think about it. Head office sent us FOUR copies only on the GCN, because they knew it wouldn't sell well. Now, why do you think they'd do that? Could it be they know the GCN is just the system no-one wants?
I bet if I looked up store allocation when I'm at work, I'd see that 4 copies is about standard for what every store got.
You gotta understand, Nintendo Fanboi, that I work from facts.
I dont make up crap, like you.

Straight to the point, and though it may hurt feelings, I have to say that I agree 100%.

It annoys me when someone spends thier time defending false information(intentional or not), and fails to accept the truth, even from people that have the capacity to be know-it-alls like you or I. I'm sure that there are other people that want to defend DS with real facts in this thread, but until then, people need to stop pretending that thier opinions and false information are facts. It just doesn't work that way.

I'm not directing this to anyone specifically, but please just think about what you type before you actually post it people. Ask yourself if it's actually been confirmed, or is it the best explanation you could think of, off the top of your head?


And to Dakota, at least you write say that you think it is, rather than automatically saying it's fact, or implying that your opinion is better than another's.


Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But nobody can make up a fact.

Kairi December 12th, 2004 6:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brittany
I am a Sony person. At least I use cold hard facts to back my opinions. At any rate, the minority of my points lie in my opinion, because I have had to clear up false information 90% of the time XD

And why does track record matter? Sony doesn't have a track record in this area, so to say that Nintendo's is 'better', is a very biased assumption in my opinion. They did it with PS2 vs GCN, they can do it again :P

I disagree strongly. I don't have anything else to say XD
Yes, I have heard of a DRE on GameCube.

Like I said though, facts are good, but they can’t formulate for sure if one will succeed or fail.

@D, well, like she said, it’s the expectations. If the EB only sent 4 copies, it means they must have experienced poor sales of GCN titles before.

@Brit 2:

No. No no no. You are not the games mod. Don’t tell people how to act. Yes, they may have been making up stuff about the GCN versus the PS2. All you can do is tell them the facts. If they refuse to accept that, you need not point it out. Cause that’s what strts the flames. This topic is no longer about the DS and the PSP, but about facts and acceptance and thread behavior. And that’s very very bad. So cool down, and let’s all find a new topic about the DS/PSP.

Brittany December 12th, 2004 6:23 PM

Hmm, some would consider jumping into a thread and posting every thought that comes to their head spam, but I guess not.

Even when I tried to start a lil' conversation about some PSP games, someone had to come in and make up information about them, which makes discussion almost impossible, unless you're a DS lover.

I'll back off for a while.

John Denver December 12th, 2004 6:24 PM

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Originally Posted by a1337a
Dakota, why don't you read the post I was replying to, before stepping in with your hollier-than-thou additude? Someone claims it's a fact that the GCN outsells the PS2. All I do is set the record straight.

In addition to calling them Fanbois and saying they make crap up...meh...

And Brit, ugh, I can't begin to explain how everything you just posted applies 100% to you more than anyone.

Although, ashamed as I am to admit, most of the fanboys in this thread do support the DS with faulty info. The things I do know that are fact

PSP is slightly faster and has better graphics than the DS
DS has a wider amount of extra features
PSP is lead by a team with no experience in handhelds
DS is lead by a team a decades amount of experince in handhelds
UMDs hold more than the DS boxes
The PSP's battery life for games is around 6 hours-ish
The DS's battery life for games is around 10 or 12 (I think, I might have to check)

And that is, I think, the extent of my knowledge...

*struts off*

Brittany December 12th, 2004 6:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dakota
And Brit, ugh, I can't begin to explain how everything you just posted applies 100% to you more than anyone.

I have not once introduced false information, or said that my opinion was fact. Yet people accused me of it all the time.

"Brit, you don't know the battery life!"
"Brit, you don't know what the price will be!"


Remember this stuff? People said I didn't know anything about this stuff. But now that the results are public, who's right?

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Originally Posted by a1337a
Okay, let's get some discussion done.
Now that the system is out, we can see that the PSP infact has a plastic cover to protect it's screen, making it vastly more durable than first thought.
The entire system is well built, comfortable to hold, and feels like the same kind of quality as a good Sony MD Player.
Initial reports are now stating battery life is far greater then originally thought. Ridge Racers, Medium Screen Brightness, Six Hours and Thirteen minutes for the battery to do. WHich is THREE TIMES what Nintendo Fanboys would have you beleive.
Given it's rechargable battery is built in, six hours is plenty, given that's PLAY time, while standby time is probably measured in days like a standard high end cell phone.
So there you go, thats my discussion contributed

Oh yes, didn't I also say that the PSP had a plastic cover? Another fact I pointed out, that in turn, made me the liar in the old threads.

Kairi December 12th, 2004 6:45 PM

Brittany, stop it. Right now. Proving yourself right is getting nowhere but very very close to getting this thread closed. You could have talked about how the PSPs power will make for a different style of gameplay, and how that’ll help it. You could have said you didn’t feel the DS’s abilities matched that.

But you are intent on proving you were right, he was wrong. That’s not the point of the thread. Last warning, if this thread doesn’t go 100% PSP/DS, it’s closed.

Scyther5 December 12th, 2004 6:46 PM

How long is the battery life of the PSP?
Sony Computer Entertainment has made measurements of the PSP's abilities, based on technical standards and in-game performance of work-in-progress games. On October 27, 2004, the company announced that the typical battery life for the PSP will be between 4 and 6 hours for games, with 4-5 hours for video viewing. These numbers, according to SCE, were determined with the system's luminance set to maximum (180 cd/m2) and minimum (80 cd/m2), volume set to half the maximum level, headphones used instead of speakers and wireless LAN not in use.

SCE has described its 1,800mAh battery to be able to power the unit for as long as typical battery-based portable electronics, which would include portable DVD and MP3 players as well as other game systems. At E3 2004 in May, SCE estimated the PSP's battery life to run between 2 1/2 and 10 hours. The PSP's various CPUs are scalable, and usage of the UMD disc drive may depend between different types of games and game engines.
~ IGN
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Just what I found off IGN, for the record I support both systems..so Im not for one more than the other.

Kairi December 12th, 2004 6:49 PM

Okay guys, here’s a good opportunity. He posted a snippet of an article from a website. Now, if you wish to refute this fact, you can find a credible source, and offer proof. This is where facts come in. However, if you don’t really add anything like how it would affect the PSP IF that were true, you’re just tossing around facts.


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