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Poke-Master December 10th, 2004 3:38 AM

Annoyers and Sweepers
 
There are a lot of annoyance and sweeper movesets. But I'll only share my favorites:
ANNOYANCE
1. Milotic @Leftovers
Ability: Marvel Scale
EVS: Max out Defense and Special Defense
Surf
Attract
Toxic
Rest
Love-Poison Moveset

2. Crobat @Bright Powder
Ability: Inner Focus
EVS: Defense and Special Defense max out
Double team
Poison Fang
COnfuse Ray
Giga Drain
EVade-poison-confuse moveset

3. Registeel @CHesto Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EV's: Max out Defense and Special Defense
Rest
Curse
Earthquake
Amnesia
Resting Defense moveset

Will hav sweepers soon, need 2 do something very urgent... bye!

Phlemingo December 10th, 2004 4:11 AM

The evading one is... well... newby. Evading moves are cheap. The Registeel one sucks. Many things can be immune to ground attacks. They go out, you give them a free turn while you switch. Or worse, you don't switch, then they up their stats.

IceKitten December 10th, 2004 5:08 AM

Suicune @ Chesto Berry

SERPH
Ice B33n
Rest
Calm Mind

gg

Kaiorga8929 December 10th, 2004 6:27 AM

One of my favorites

Umbreon @ Leftovers
MAX EVs Defense and Special Defense
Nature: Impish
Moveset:
- Confuse Ray
- Double Team
- Toxic
- Return/Moonlight

IceKitten December 10th, 2004 6:56 AM

I use this Umbreon, he's quite useful

Umbreon @ Leftovers

Toxic
Confuse Ray
Psychic
Protect

Mana Lugia December 10th, 2004 10:41 AM

It's also quite horrible that you are giving it Psychic.

Toothache December 10th, 2004 10:43 AM

Protect = wasted slot on Umbreon. Certainly doesn't need the protection.
Psychic = wasted slot on Umbreon. He's a tank, not a great attacker.

Melody December 10th, 2004 10:49 AM

yes that is true but did you ever think that it might NEED an attacking move in a pinch! protect isnt a wasted slot either, its all in how you use it

Edit: plus in order to be an annoyer it must have a move with an annoying effect!

Mana Lugia December 10th, 2004 10:58 AM

... Shows how much you know, huh.

Annoyer isn't really a pokemon role, it's actually called the "Oh look once you beat my team you'll be so angry that you will proceed to smash my GBA and stab my face with a sharp object" role. And if you really need this Psychic in a pinch, you must suck a lot to begin with, because you've got like 9 different options that don't involve Psychic if you were a decent battler.

Protect is debatable, but not if you don't even have wish.

Melody December 10th, 2004 11:11 AM

DUH!

I KNEW THAT


but you are right about the psycic move
it could be another move, i jus dont beleve it is a wasted slot, psycic has a 30% chance of lowering sp.def.
60 if you have the ability
Serene grace...

Mana Lugia December 10th, 2004 11:23 AM

Psychic has a 10% chance of lowering spD
Umbreon does NOT have serene grace
Umbreon's special attack is lower than the IQ of some of the members outside this forum, and that is very sad.
That Umbreon didn't have wish.

The 4 reasons why Tig's Umbreon had a bad moveset. Well, the 4 that relates for Psychic and protect anyways.

Spike Razzor December 10th, 2004 1:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poketrainer2004
yes that is true but did you ever think that it might NEED an attacking move in a pinch! protect isnt a wasted slot either, its all in how you use it

Edit: plus in order to be an annoyer it must have a move with an annoying effect!

I hate it when people like you start arguments that don't concern them. Umbreon's only choice of an attacks are is Bite/Faint Attack/Shadowball and Quick Attack, either than those 4 moves it should be attackless. Protect is only good for Toxic and or Leech Seed users, so please don't tell anyone "its how you use it" because I'm pretty sure you don't play Netbattle, and if you do, you probably have a high lose ratio if anything.

P.S. Mana, I'm saving that last post for future veiwing purposes LOL x 10!

Shuckle December 10th, 2004 1:35 PM

Lets just say this thread is sad. ='[

*agrees with everyone except for tig [boy or girl, make up your mind fool] and poketrainertheidiot2004.*

HellishHades December 10th, 2004 3:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poketrainer2004

but you are right about the psycic move
it could be another move, i jus dont beleve it is a wasted slot, psycic has a 30% chance of lowering sp.def.
60 if you have the ability
Serene grace...

This isn't RBY anymore. In fact, abilities, such as Serence Grace, didn't exist in RBY. You're contradicting yourself twice.

Kaiorga8929 December 10th, 2004 3:33 PM

wanted to make sure about something I posted about umbreon having return/moonlight, is it ok to have a umbreon with either those two moves?
well, return is for if it's you last pokemon (although toxic and confuse ray should take care of it)

HoundoomTrainer December 10th, 2004 3:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiorga8929
wanted to make sure about something I posted about umbreon having return/moonlight, is it ok to have a umbreon with either those two moves?
well, return is for if it's you last pokemon (although toxic and confuse ray should take care of it)

Kokukirin on NB uses Cursebreon with Taunt, Curse, Shadow Ball and Return (or something like that) and works pretty well. XD

-HT

HellishHades December 10th, 2004 5:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiorga8929
wanted to make sure about something I posted about umbreon having return/moonlight, is it ok to have a umbreon with either those two moves?
well, return is for if it's you last pokemon (although toxic and confuse ray should take care of it)

Better to go with Wish for passing or Rest to get rid of bad status effects.

HoundoomTrainer December 10th, 2004 6:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellishHades
Better to go with Wish for passing or Rest to get rid of bad status effects.

That's what Taunt is for....

-HT

Toothache December 10th, 2004 6:39 PM

Umbreon isn't always fast enough to use Taunt - the ever common Skarmory usually packs Toxic and that's faster, for example.

HoundoomTrainer December 10th, 2004 6:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toothache
Umbreon isn't always fast enough to use Taunt - the ever common Skarmory usually packs Toxic and that's faster, for example.

Ok hint:

Only an idiot leaves Umbreon out to Skarm.

-HT

Toothache December 10th, 2004 6:44 PM

Still, it's Umbreon meets Skarm, Skarm either uses Toxic or starts Spiking immediately. Either way, the Skarm user has a free turn to play with. And there are plenty of new players and those that haven't learned yet, so lay off the insulting in my forum. Thanks.

HoundoomTrainer December 10th, 2004 7:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toothache
Still, it's Umbreon meets Skarm, Skarm either uses Toxic or starts Spiking immediately. Either way, the Skarm user has a free turn to play with. And there are plenty of new players and those that haven't learned yet, so lay off the insulting in my forum. Thanks.

Who the hell was I insulting? How can you make claims when you have no proof? And if Umbreon meets Skarm, the person should either A) Switch out to a Rapid Spinner or B) To an antiSkarm like Maggy. Otherwise, don't even try to battle.

-HT

HellishHades December 10th, 2004 8:05 PM

Forums are totalitarian and positions are appointed.

Okay, hint:
Only idiots insult the forum heads.

Your point is well taken, but I still like Rest on Umbreon.

Phlemingo December 10th, 2004 9:26 PM

I've noticed something, it's that HT likes to make retorts to most stuff. Well, many things, or maybe all of them, have counters. Blissey has counters. Skarmory has counters. Ky00ber has counters. So there's no use retorting with a counter, there is nothing that will be counter proof.

kirby00 December 10th, 2004 10:31 PM

how bout umbreon @ leftovers: swagger, psych-up, return, toxic/rest


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