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Scraggiland April 3rd, 2011 8:15 PM

The Doctors and Nurses in Pokémon Black and White are awesome, they are very useful when going through certain caves such as Twist Mountain, Victory Road and even the Desert Resort especially if like me you like to explore the whole area collecting items and such.

EJ April 3rd, 2011 8:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6539647)
I love them, they make playing the game sooo much easier. Especially near Pinwheel where it's best to train there early on, so it was a great placement of a nurse rather than running all the way back to Nacrene.

This. Oh god, I grinded so much that I permanently stayed overleveled (8th gym now)

The_Noob April 3rd, 2011 8:56 PM

They made the annoying parts of finding every item in Victory Road much easier. I hope this means we can get supersized dungeons in Gen VI, since you can have Doctors and Nurses as checkpoints.

Noob out.

s0nido April 4th, 2011 1:48 AM

They are an absolute RELIEF. But it's annoying that the game developers decided that they can make longer-stretched roads and stuff. It's really annoying. XD

Musica April 4th, 2011 6:51 AM

I talked to a Nurse Trainer for more than 20 times, I think. I simply love them. They help in grinding A LOT, especially when you feel like you're going to black out/white out.

EJ April 4th, 2011 7:00 AM

It was mostly helpful for conserving your time and maximizing the efficiency of your gaming session allowing you to progress quicker.

I hope the next generation includes them as well.

PennyLayne April 4th, 2011 9:09 AM

Best idea ever, I myself haven't dedicated more than 10 hours to a pokemon game since silver, so coming back to doctors and nurses was so awesome that it still has my playing 40+ hours on :D

Shorty- April 4th, 2011 7:59 PM

OMG!! I Love it!! I don't have to spend all my cash on items, and I can explore the areas much more and catch catch catch Pokemon.

Necrolium April 4th, 2011 8:46 PM

I feel like they are a large help, especially if you are low on items. It just brightens up your day to see one of the doctors or nurses.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 4th, 2011 8:51 PM

I was glad to find one when I could ^_^ They were really helpful in my trips through Twist mountain, Celestial tower and Victory road (oh and the Desert Ruins) my whole team almost fainted by the time I made it to them and fought them...so I was really thankful they added them.

RoseBlade April 4th, 2011 9:02 PM

Oh my, looks like I will be the first to say that I didn't like them.

While I do admit that they are useful, in all honesty I don't believe anyone that can contest this, I also believe that they are to useful.

I ask that you try to remember back to when you first played the original pokemon Red Blue or Yellow, especially the first time you had to go through Victory Road. You did not know where to go or which way to push those rocks, I admit to having trouble with this. You had to carefully calculate every step and make sure that you had enough items to make it through. In the end though you where rewarded by making it out and being able to challenge the League.

I believe that the presence of the nurses and doctors throughout the game make the feeling of getting through a dungeon less rewarding in comparison to the other games. While they did help once you find them it begins to feel like cheating to me going back to them over and over.

I do apologize if my opinion offended or if you disagree with it but it is how I feel.

Va April 5th, 2011 7:48 PM

They're helpful, especially on Twist Mountain. :D

ssrobin April 10th, 2011 3:56 AM

really like that feature, saved me several time.

Rai April 10th, 2011 3:22 PM

I love the Doctors and Nurses. They are really helpful and help me save money on healing potions!

Yusshin April 10th, 2011 3:32 PM

I found them unrealistic. You can spam-talk to them forever, but surely their medical supplies would diminish? Simply where do they stock the thousands of Full Restores? They don't even have a knapsack on.

I also found they ruined the adventure a little. Made the game too easy - if you're not prepared, you're not prepared. Pack up, Dig out, and Fly to a Pokemon Centre. Come back when you're of level and well-stocked with stuff. To rely on a Nurse or Doctor who's surely in there for whatever reason (do tell me why, other than facilitating the game for no reason) removes some of the epic "Crap, no stuff left, and my Pokemon are almost dead" moments. No fun. No consequences.

They're very helpful for leveling up, but in truth, I'd have preferred having less of them. Especially at Victory Road and Twist Mountain.

Thougar April 10th, 2011 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ash493 (Post 6540326)
If you won't think that's it's kinda illogical that they can heal pokemon outta nothing it's very great feature that should've been implemented even in previous generations. =)

Ok sorry I had to say something, You prorfile picture scares me. It liiks like they were caught doing something. Althugh i did like where your signiture said Hacks I support: *blank*

Back on topic I counted 3 doctors/Nurses throughout the game, twist mountan, Victory road, Desert Resort.

King Gumball April 10th, 2011 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Thougar (Post 6570458)
Back on topic I counted 3 doctors/Nurses throughout the game, twist mountan, Victory road, Desert Resort.

There is a nurse in Pinwheel forest too iirc, and I think there are others too...

Uber Legend April 11th, 2011 1:15 PM

I really like the idea of them, but I rarely used them at all. I'm one of those people who is always prepared and whose pokemon can take multiple battles back to back without necessarily having to be healed after every battle. They can be pretty helpful at times though.

tente2 April 11th, 2011 1:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Thougar (Post 6570458)
Back on topic I counted 3 doctors/Nurses throughout the game, twist mountan, Victory road, Desert Resort.

Apart from Pinwheel, there's also one in the Tower of Heaven (Don't know and don't care about the english name :P).

cazzler April 11th, 2011 2:31 PM

Yeah doctors/nurses are pretty helpful in the game, makes you feel comfortable when far away from a pokecentre, if there wern't any, I bet the game would be heaps difficult to breeze through without needing a pokecentre in the middle of a route.

Osha_say_wott?! April 28th, 2011 5:22 PM

I love the doctors and nurses, they're really helpful, especially in cave areas. I don't have to spend lots of money stocking up on items, also. I also don't have to worry about getting lost in caves or being too far away an exit/entrance to the nearest Pokémon Center. I can explore the whole place and visit a doctor/nurse to heal my Pokémons to full health. =D

fenyx4 April 28th, 2011 6:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FalconsDrummer (Post 6612101)
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Something I've noticed so far is that Unova has a lot of NPCs, usually doctors and nurses, who hang out at certain locations and heal your Pokémon. They're found in or near locations where it might be inconvenient to go all the way back to a Pokémon Center -- outside Pinwheel Forest and in Desert Resort, for example. Usually they are Trainers whom you have to battle once, and after that they will always fully restore your Pokémon every time you come back to them.

What do you think about these helpful characters? Do you use them during your journey? Or do you think they make the game too easy?

Personally, I find them incredibly convenient. It's cheaper than stocking up on even more items, and easier than going all the way back to the last Center. I think there are just enough of them, too; they aren't all over the place, but they're in some of the long dungeons and stuff where you could get in some real trouble without a way to keep your Pokémon healthy.

Discuss.

Interesting...so it seems that the Pokemon Center is outsourcing its service or something. XD Go Nurse Joy.

This implementation seems like it makes the game too easy...I mean, first the overworld Poison effect is removed, you get a free Lucky Egg at the start of the game, and now there are even more places to heal your Pokemon! It's like players are getting babied! :x What happened to that tedious, backtracking trek to the Pokemon Center of past games?

I guess these Doctors/Nurses do save trips to the Pokemon Center and expenses on Potions and the like, but managing to brave wild Pokemon with a tired party just to reach a Pokemon Center is part of what made the games a challenge. Also, it's annoying that there just so happens to be one of these medics in Victory Road. If any trip is supposed to be a challenge, it's that one. -_-

And exactly what do you spend your money on, then, if not Medicine and TMs? Just Poke Balls? >_>

jigglyppuff8 April 28th, 2011 6:36 PM

Many a trip and grinding has been interrupted by frequent trips to the Pokemon Center. Now that I beat the game, they're just OK, but they lifesavers during it.
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Originally Posted by fenyx4 (Post 6612615)
Interesting...so it seems that the Pokemon Center is outsourcing its service or something. XD Go Nurse Joy.

This implementation seems like it makes the game too easy...I mean, first the overworld Poison effect is removed, you get a free Lucky Egg at the start of the game, and now there are even more places to heal your Pokemon! It's like players are getting babied! :x What happened to that tedious, backtracking trek to the Pokemon Center of past games?

I guess these Doctors/Nurses do save trips to the Pokemon Center and expenses on Potions and the like, but managing to brave wild Pokemon with a tired party just to reach a Pokemon Center is part of what made the games a challenge. Also, it's annoying that there just so happens to be one of these medics in Victory Road. If any trip is supposed to be a challenge, it's that one. -_-

I'm guessing Game Freak got smart and realized that the "fake difficulty" of having to backtrack to Pokemon Centers was more of a nuisance than an actual challenge. And who's to say that reaching that Doctor or Nurse with an extremely tired party hoping to get that free heal can't be a challenge? It was certainly one of the reasons I kept pushing on instead of backtracking all the way back to the Pokemon Center every time. With the new experience formula in this game and the several amount of trainers in between each city, I'm sure that Black and White isn't "babying" anyone, but simply adding convenience should you choose to use it.

And the medic in Victory Road is near the end anyway. There's no Pokemon Center or healing area immediately before it like in Gens II-IV, so it's still a challenge.
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And exactly what do you spend your money on, then, if not Medicine and TMs? Just Poke Balls? >_>
Also, Vitamins.

Kaean April 28th, 2011 7:09 PM

I love that they have them scattered around. My first trip in an area tends to end with me healing with items right before finding one of them, but after I know where they are I stop using items so much. Its a wonderful feature as far as I'm concerned.

Molts April 28th, 2011 7:49 PM

The ones inside caves I didn't like so much, I really liked how caves were something really hard wandering around forever exploring. You have to be careful as to who your bring with you and have to be very conservative with your items because your just so far out for a long time. The one in victory road particularly bothered me, victory road I remember as a giant doom cave that took ages to navigate because of all the multi-levels and stairs between floors.

The healers outside places, like before pinwheel forest is very very nice though. Allowing me easy grinding spots to level up, and to be out in the world for longer. In this case they were very welcomed.


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