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arceus123shiny April 7th, 2011 1:09 PM

what did the 1 being of Zekrom and Reshiram look like.
 
This had me thinking when Iris and Drayden talk about how Zekrom and Reshiram used to be 1 pokemon, than I thought it would be gray and it would be a fire electric dragon or it could have been have of both of them.

Pyrax April 7th, 2011 1:16 PM

Are you talking about Kyurem?

LethalTexture April 7th, 2011 1:20 PM

Pretty sure it will end up being Kyurem.

Clairissa April 7th, 2011 1:22 PM

It's speculated that Kyurem is the remnant of the pokemon that Zekrom and Reshiram came from.

So far, no one really knows what it would look like, but probably has some sort of jet-engine or turbine on it's butt, like Zekrom and Reshiram.

Zayin April 7th, 2011 1:33 PM

I can't be Kyurem since all three are existing simultaneously. Unless Game Freak is being high or something :P. Maybe a new gray Pokemon will be created when the 3rd game gets out if there is one, who knows?

LethalTexture April 7th, 2011 1:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zayin (Post 6562688)
I can't be Kyurem since all three are existing simultaneously. Unless Game Freak is being high or something :P. Maybe a new gray Pokemon will be created when the 3rd game gets out if there is one, who knows?

Apparently it has been said that Kyurem is the reanimated corpse/skin of the Pokémon that split and became Reshiram and Zekrom.

Heart Gold April 7th, 2011 1:40 PM

Gamefreak should totally make a guy who after obtaining Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyreum, will fuse them together to make the large dragon!

arceus123shiny April 7th, 2011 1:41 PM

Reshiram and Zekrom are bigger than kyurem and it would have to be a new type with dragon, fire and electric moves the eyes would have to be purple.

NatureKeeper April 7th, 2011 1:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Heart Gold (Post 6562702)
Gamefreak should totally make a guy who after obtaining Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyreum, will fuse them together to make the large dragon!

It's totally not going to happen. No new Pokémon will be introduced mid-generation. Kyurem can attain a new forme, though.

arceus123shiny April 7th, 2011 1:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 6562699)
Apparently it has been said that Kyurem is the reanimated corpse/skin of the Pokémon that split and became Reshiram and Zekrom.

where did you hear about that?

Dark Piplup April 7th, 2011 1:52 PM

I think it's unlikely that it will be released. But they should show an image of it in the 3rd game.

Nakuzami April 7th, 2011 1:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 6562699)
Apparently it has been said that Kyurem is the reanimated corpse/skin of the Pokémon that split and became Reshiram and Zekrom.

Okay, uh...that's kinda gross. Makes me rethink using, or ever going near, my Kyurem again.

But if that is the case, it would make sense with the "fusing the dragons" thing. It wouldn't be a new pokemon, but a new form for Kyurem as the other two are the lost remnants of its old form. That sound likely? Like, at all?

Clairissa April 7th, 2011 1:57 PM

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Originally Posted by arceus123shiny (Post 6562704)
Reshiram and Zekrom are bigger than kyurem and it would have to be a new type with dragon, fire and electric moves the eyes would have to be purple.

Yeah... Because splitting from Kyurem would somehow make Kyurem larger right..? Also, their eye colors reference each other's secondary type, Reshiram's eyes are blue, referencing Kyurem's ice, Zekrom's eyes are red, referencing Reshiram's fire, Kyurem's eyes are yellow, referencing Zekrom's electricity, as for having to be a "combined" type, Regigigas made the other three Regis, and he is normal typed so...

Like I said, no one knows yet what Kyurem is, though after Platinum, most think it will be like Giratina and, somehow, be connected to them both, and probably be the next version mascot.
Maybe they split from Kyurem, maybe Kyurem is just what is left after the split, maybe he isn't involved at all... Until Pokemon's patented tie-in/make a lot more money game comes out, then we'll probably get more answers, until then, it's all 100% speculation, though I tend to believe that they came from Kyurem myself...

The_Noob April 7th, 2011 3:20 PM

Something tells me this will be Kyuurem's new forme, and would require having both Zekrom and Reshiram in the party to summon it.

Of course, it will probably look like some nightmarish abomination, so horrible that all it is a large grey shape with multicolored (rainbow, representing the opposite of grey) light emanating from it.

Or, perhaps, it could be a Pokemon introduced mid-generation, if worst comes to worst.

Noob out.

Zenfyre April 7th, 2011 5:23 PM

Since Kyurem is supposedly the remains of the dragon that Reshiram and Zekrom split from the original dragon could've looked like him. I hope they make a Pokemon Gray with Kyurem's original/true form as the mascot and cover more of the trio's story.

One thing that also ties the three together is they all represent the concept of Tao. While Reshiram and Zekrom represent yin and yang in Tao, Kyurem is supposed to represent the concept of wuji which means "without ultimate" or "nothingness". It would be interesting to see a new form for him represent taiji which is "supreme ultimate" or "completion".

Gulpin April 7th, 2011 5:35 PM

I'd like to think that once Kyurem, Zekrom, and Reshiram were once one dragon Pokemon, and that Zekrom and Reshiram seperated from the main being, leaving Kyurem in the depths of the Giant Chasm where it eventually got its power back to where it is now.

arceus123shiny April 7th, 2011 7:05 PM

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Originally Posted by deku (Post 6563276)
I'd like to think that once Kyurem, Zekrom, and Reshiram were once one dragon Pokemon, and that Zekrom and Reshiram seperated from the main being, leaving Kyurem in the depths of the Giant Chasm where it eventually got its power back to where it is now.

they dont talk about kyurem in the game as being one pokemon with Reshiram and Zekrom so maybe that 1 being changed back and forth like it would be reshiram than it would change to zekrom I dont know.

Reshiram and Zekrom both have manes and there heads have the same shape, they both have big tails, Im trying to figure out what the wings and arms would look like together.

The Nightmare April 7th, 2011 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heart Gold (Post 6562702)
Gamefreak should totally make a guy who after obtaining Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyreum, will fuse them together to make the large dragon!

I won't think they would do that with reshiram,zekrom and kyreum because if they did that they must be some crazy people.

Eurydice April 7th, 2011 11:58 PM

i never actually thought about kyrem being part of the one legendary dragon but now that i read this thread it makes sense. hopefully they will talk about the legendary dragon in the third game

PlatinumDude April 8th, 2011 3:45 AM

My guess is that Reshiram and Zekrom used to be part of Kyurem because of how closely Kyurem resembles both. Kyrurem even has missing parts, such as its wing.

Lautrec April 8th, 2011 11:48 AM

Kyurem is only the remains. Like Shedninja.

I expect it to be looking like Kyurem expect with brighter colours (since Kyurem is practically the 'shell' so to speak, it would be darker and ice cold). Electric/Fire sounds pretty staple, but GF could surprise us with something crazy.

JP April 8th, 2011 12:03 PM

All this fusing of two and three Pokemon into one being all reminds me of Digimon... oh the memories!

I highly doubt we'll see this fused being in the games. Perhaps in the anime or movies, maybe even the manga's? In the game though, if it ever did show up... would most likely only be as an image. I'm not even sure I like the idea of merging Pokemon, it just seems too out of place in the Pokemon world.

I think what we'll simply see is Kyurem's full/origin forme through the use of this mysterious "God Stone". A method of obtaining Kyurem with its original forme without the combining of Reshiram and Zekrom. Of course, that's only if Kyurem does indeed turn out to be the remains of the Dragon (I don't believe this has been proven yet?)

Pwnyta Jockey April 8th, 2011 5:16 PM

Maybe a bigger Hydreigon sort of thing. Only with claws for hands, not mouths. And one set of wings rather than three. No frills. No tail propulsion source.

Ooh. Maybe it transforms.

Kenshin5 April 8th, 2011 6:37 PM

Fusions have already occurred as least once albeit in Pokemon Adventures. With Zapmolcuno, combined Zapdos, Moltres, Articuno. So to combine these three in question, who also share same typing with the 3 birds that were fused(coincidence?) I wouldn't rule it out of the question. Also what makes me wonder if Kyurem is apart of the original dragon is, that Zekrom and Reshiram have signature moves with the word Fusion in them, whereas Kyurem does not yet share a signature move with the word fusion in it.

Lucifer April 8th, 2011 9:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heart Gold (Post 6562702)
Gamefreak should totally make a guy who after obtaining Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyreum, will fuse them together to make the large dragon!

I believe this is what should be done by the hero in the special third version (Grey perhaps). I believe it makes sense because in the Black and White story it is said that you/the hero takes neither side which the dragons represent but rather takes a neutral opinion. I believe this pokemon that Reshiram and Zekrom create when fused together should be the featured(cover) legendary of a special third version.

I am however not so sure this Kyuram is the product, I was looking at an image just now on Serebii.net as I have not yet seen it in my game. Not only is it smaller in size and bares not the greatest resemblance to either, but I agree with the user who speculated that it makes no sense for it to already co-exist in Black and White with the two split dragons.

So I will respectfully stand corrected if I am wrong but I say no, I do not believe it is this kyuram that is the product of the two dragons.

Poliwagged April 9th, 2011 12:04 AM

I like the idea that Kyurem is the 'leftover' of what used to be Reshiram and Zekrom.

It sorta makes sense because Kyurem appears almost skeletal-like, and the phrase "cold and lifeless", when talking about the deceased, could apply to it being skeletal, as well as an ice type.

As for it being smaller, it only makes sense, because if you were once a single body and two parts of you decided they want out, it's going to take a lot out of you -- quite literally.


Cold Flare and Freeze Bolt only support it even more, referencing that Kyurem has/had access to elements that Reshiram and Zekrom use. Not to mention that both attacks resemble a 'fusion' of elements, and we know who uses attacks with the word 'fusion'

I'm almost feeling like Kyurem will have a 2nd form that will be the complete dragon, and it will be able to learn Cold Flare and Freeze Bolt then.

It shall be called...Kyurem - Perfect Forme

Bluerang1 April 9th, 2011 6:19 AM

This.

With a icy blue flow going to the middle head, a red one going to the left head and a yellow one going to the right. It seems likely to me. But it was shown even before Black and White came out which makes me wonder of the concept art for Kyurem's God Forme is it, was developed by GameFreak by then. It's possible.

GliscorFan08 April 9th, 2011 6:22 AM

I think Kyurem will obtain a new form: The form of when the three were combined. When Reshiram and Zekrom split, they made a spirit of their former self, Kyurem. Or somethin like that :P

LethalTexture April 9th, 2011 7:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 6566216)
This.

With a icy blue flow going to the middle head, a red one going to the left head and a yellow one going to the right. It seems likely to me. But it was shown even before Black and White came out which makes me wonder of the concept art for Kyurem's God Forme is it, was developed by GameFreak by then. It's possible.

With all due respect, if it does end up looking like that, I will eat my own face. And you can quote me on that.

JP April 9th, 2011 8:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 6566396)
With all due respect, if it does end up looking like that, I will eat my own face. And you can quote me on that.

Haha I agree. I'm personally not a huge fan of the three headed idea. It's interesting and I suppose it worked well with Hydreigon but apart from that... I'd rather that idea stay away from Legendary Pokemon. Just generally not a fan of three-headed things lol.

Blastin'Tyruntz April 9th, 2011 8:56 AM

Quote:

I expect it to be looking like Kyurem expect with brighter colours (since Kyurem is practically the 'shell' so to speak, it would be darker and ice cold). Electric/Fire sounds pretty staple, but GF could surprise us with something crazy.
look,i agree with you,
but think about that this is a DRAGON.
it will be a dragon/something unless they are pretty high so they will do like arceus....
a normal type that can change to everything!!!
that was crazy!
+,in every game they bring a more legendary form:
in IV they said arceus was the god of the world and created all dimensions,suddenly-there are two beings that were before him!
how in hell did that happend?!
cause they said he created all pokemons.!!

Zayin April 9th, 2011 9:00 AM

This is taken from Bulbapedia:
Quote:

Kyurem's origins are much different than those of the other two. The third
dragon came down to Earth from an icy meteor and crashed into a place called Giant Chasm. An
old legend in Lacunosa
Town
describing Kyurem claims that it would take people and Pokémon away
from the town and eat them; this is why the town is now surrounded by a giant
wall. Another claim is that Kyurem is the corpse of the original Dragon Pokémon
after it had split into Reshiram
and Zekrom.

DoctorFred April 9th, 2011 9:10 AM

Yeah, Kyurem is the corpse of the original being of rehiram and zekrom, but the actual pokemon hasn't been shown yet. If they do show it it will obviously be a completely different pokemon from Kyurem, since kyurem is the corpse and not the actual thing. I suspect the typing to be one of the following:

Dragon/Ghost
Dragon
Dragon/Fire/Electric (the first triple type?)
Dragon/Ice
Fire/Electric

Or maybe a completely random type like when reshiram and zekrom were revealed everyone thought they were dragon/psychic and dragon/dark respectively. Maybe nintendo will surprise us. I can see it now, Reshiram and Zekrom fusing in-game, i call it Reshikrom!

Clairissa April 9th, 2011 9:13 AM

Regardless of any formes or whatnot... Considering the unused moves Freeze Shock and Ice Burn being much like Zekrom's Bolt Strike and Resharim's Blue Flare, though more powerful, I'd say Kyurem will be the next version's mascot, and obviously be related to Zekrom and Resharim...

Lucifer April 9th, 2011 12:53 PM

Well I suppose the actual fused form taking on an enhanced appearance from this kyurem makes some sense to me. I always assumed from the story however that the two dragons are everything this single creature was, almost like a split personality in a way since it split to represent two very different viewpoints. I am having trouble seeing how anything could be left behind.

ssrobin April 10th, 2011 3:21 AM

i dont like the fact that kyurem is the fusion between them,

i hope that they bring the fusion of reshiram and zekrom in a game.

Bluerang1 April 13th, 2011 10:24 AM

THIS!!!

OMG that is so awesome. But do you guys think it'd be bipedal like Reshiram and Zekrom? Then again Kyurem is also bipedal, just bent.

Also, it might be Dragon/Grass type because Grass sorts or represents absolute energy in that it is or the earth and since the Dragon created Unova, it created a land. Grass = Land. Or Ground type. Also, since Kyurem's body froze over when it split, it could have been Grass because Grass is weak to Ice and it shows lack of life. Ground is also weak to Ice. And Ground is super-effective against Fire and Electric! :o But we have Garchomp... hmmm....

JP April 13th, 2011 10:33 AM

I think it would most likely just be a pure Dragon type, capable of many elemental powers. That or perhaps Dragon/Normal? Haha. Perhaps making it the first Pokemon with a secondary Normal typing. :P

Bluerang1 April 13th, 2011 10:40 AM

I was thinking pure Dragon, but that would be too blah, also Dragon/Normal. Psychic makes sense but it's typing should be a first like the whole Tao trio. First secondary Normal type would be good though.

Mozarch4 April 13th, 2011 11:54 AM

its hydregion it has 3 heads duh or it can be magikarp

Nakuzami April 13th, 2011 1:20 PM

Well, perhaps the second type of Kyurem's other form could be...actually, I don't know.

I do know, however, that Fire and Electricity are forms of plasma, hence "Team Plasma." Perhaps this second form will be...possibly Fire/Electric or something else to do with plasma.

Though, I think it still might be Dragon/Ice since Kyurem's supposed signature moves, that are oddly in the game but he can't learn, are both ice type moves with the chance to paralyze/burn.

pondjohn April 13th, 2011 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 6562699)
Apparently it has been said that Kyurem is the reanimated corpse/skin of the Pokémon that split and became Reshiram and Zekrom.

def. not in the game zekrom and reshiram made unove and kyurem came from a meteor that landed after unova was already created i think it said lacunosa town was around when that happened, plus they r different size and as for the whole color of their eyes thing corresponding to each others types look at the color of electricity in zekrom's turbine it's blue like reshirams eyes even though the type symbol is yellow and zekroms eyes are red like reshirams fire i don't think kyurem has anything to do with those two and another poke could easily be added to the game just as easily as adding another form to kyurem as suggested by whoever it was and personally a would hate for kyurem to somehow be involved in the next game i loath the idea entirely i'd rather have no new poke than to have kyurem be it

Dante1 May 19th, 2011 1:18 AM

It has to be Kyruem.After all they are a legendary trio(Tao trio).and it has two ledgends like the corspe of the two other dragons and the giant chasm one. Especially since he has no pupals.And besides getting Kyruem as the ledendary instead of Zekrom or Reshiam since it is a dragon and ice type.

Ho-Oh May 19th, 2011 1:23 AM

Sorry but this thread hasn't been posted in for over a month, you're free to make a new one if you want~

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