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LouBeatYou April 13th, 2011 4:27 PM

Black and White after N's battle?
 
I just finished fighting N, after much level grinding, discovered that either i am severely underlevelled, or after N's battle all the trainers are overpowered. I am low fifties in lvl, and all the trainers I fight are in the mid sixties. Did this startle anyone else?

AusDon April 13th, 2011 4:28 PM

Yeah, a pretty big jump.
Also, if you want to beat the E4 again, they're lvl73,75,77 this time.

Neiko Star April 13th, 2011 4:30 PM

Yeah, but the trainers' Pokemon are weak. Which gives you a lot of EXP.

The_Noob April 13th, 2011 4:35 PM

GRIND GRIND GRIND. That's as much as you need to do in B/W outside Wi-Fi and the Battle Subway.

Noob out.

LouBeatYou April 13th, 2011 4:46 PM

Thanks guys. Any good places to grind?

Lambda April 13th, 2011 5:39 PM

Yeah i was really surprised!

Thougar April 13th, 2011 6:24 PM

Yeah it was a big lvl jump...... I ownd them anyway.

The Nightmare April 13th, 2011 10:01 PM

when I was about to fight the elite four I just noticed they were too high leveled and I was only lv 40+ which is kinda unfair.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ April 14th, 2011 4:46 AM

Honestly, I thought it was one of the worst aspects of B/W. I mean, that is a ridiculous level jump, and some of those "normal" trainers post-game DON'T have pushover Pokemon, and you don't really know who has what until they wipe you out in battle:/

I hope Game Freak never tries to pull a stupid stunt like this again.

ISA56 2.0 April 14th, 2011 12:10 PM

Personally, I liked the high level jump. It made the game more of a challenge than the first time around. (level 40+ Elite Four? Makes me sad....) It also adds a bit of replay value.

Ho-Oh April 14th, 2011 5:53 PM

The level jump was surprising at first, but! Since I tend to grind like 10 levels ahead, Emboar was already in its 60s, which made it a lot easier, as opposed to Black, where all my Pokemon were barely 50, so I didn't want to bother going through post-game. :(

I don't think it's bad, just kinda sucks if you're unprepared. Then again, some higher level trainers you could rebattle would be nice, though I guess I'm fine with 65s, etc.

King Gumball April 14th, 2011 7:34 PM

I was in around 43 ish when I versed the lv 60's ;p I avoided the trainer spoilers so it was a huge surprise, but I managed, with the little houses with the ladies inside who heal you. And buying cartons of MooMoo Milk ^.^

MrsMime April 22nd, 2011 3:17 PM

It majourly caught me off guard, too. It can be seriously irritating sometimes since some of the trainers are seriously tough, but most of them are pretty weak; I'm mid-fifties and most opponent Pokemon are on par in terms of strength. I've had a few close calls where I've been almost totally wiped out, though, especially in the big and small stadiums where I go to grind - the trainers there are really tough.

But if you're looking to grind, I recommend route 17, or the big or small stadiums too. Equip a lucky egg and you'll level up quite easily.

Gothitelle. April 22nd, 2011 3:22 PM

I beat their level 60s with my level 50s. It's all about type advantages instead of which Pokemon is more powerful. My Hydreigon has fainted countless times.

Molts April 22nd, 2011 3:24 PM

I agree it was a crazy level jump, but I luckily I transfered all my Pokemon from my older games once I beat the E4. So my 60-80 Pokemon had no trouble, but it was frightening seeing lvl 65 Abombasnows one shotting half my team. XD

Starrodkirby86 April 22nd, 2011 3:24 PM

A bunch of Stadium grinding makes life much, much easier.

Some of the initial trainers you meet (I recall in the Stadium especially), while they were at Level 65 and all, their Pokemon were rather meager, like a Rattata or something small. I'm sure if one enters some place like Challenger's Cave underleveled would probably get wiped out...

I found it pretty cool in some ways because it brought some difficulty to the Pokemon games I never experienced before.

Kjt April 22nd, 2011 4:08 PM

I've just been exploring the Dreamyard, and some trainers use unevolved pokemon, like Drowzee and Beldum. They're quite easy to beat. However, trainers with level 60+ Musharna and Reuniclus are quite hard to beat. I was quite surprised with the level jump, but it makes the game more challenging, and I like that :D

lloebet April 22nd, 2011 4:55 PM

and pokemon added to your pokedex!;)

Rionix April 22nd, 2011 5:08 PM

I'm not really overwhelmed when I battle the trainers after N's Castle arc. Given that they have advantage in level, it doesn't really make them stronger than us cause aside from we have a mind to think for certain strategies, we can also switch to our pokemons with type advantage over theirs so its pretty much ownage to me :)

NamelessGuy April 22nd, 2011 7:11 PM

I beat N's Castle with my highest level being 52, and I bet the Trainers in the aftergame easily.

Pokemon Trainer Touko April 22nd, 2011 7:37 PM

most of the trainers in the post game has level 60+ pokemon. They're really weak, though.

Good places to gain level:

- the stadiums in the Raimon city
- the game freak person in castelia city
- Cynthia in the sanazami town
- royal nova in Castelia city - people gives away rare candy too.
- the elite four and Adeku.

rstevenson1976 April 22nd, 2011 7:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokemon Trainer Touko (Post 6598173)
most of the trainers in the post game has level 60+ pokemon. They're really weak, though.

Good places to gain level:

- the stadiums in the Raimon city
- the game freak person in castelia city
- Cynthia in the sanazami town
- royal nova in Castelia city - people gives away rare candy too.
- the elite four and Adeku.

wait, what? how about the names of these towns in the american version of black and white?

Starrodkirby86 April 22nd, 2011 9:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rstevenson1976 (Post 6598233)
wait, what? how about the names of these towns in the american version of black and white?

Good places to gain level:

- the stadiums in Nimbasa City
- the game freak person in castelia city
- Cynthia in Undella Town
- royal unova in Castelia city - people gives away rare candy too.
- the elite four and Alder.


There we go. Translated. :)

But uh, these guys are supposed to be challenging. If anything, they're harder than those minor trainers with the Level ~65 Pokemon, at least Cynthia, the Elite Four + Alder, and the Game Freak staffer. Your best bet here would be the Stadium, but make sure to heal a lot if you're fighting the sports players for the first time. Royal Unova also doesn't sound like a bad idea too.

Satoshi Ookami April 22nd, 2011 11:35 PM

After league pokemon are not as powerfull as their level might indicate =)
They are pretty weak so you can beat them even with your 50ties (which is recommended level for league) =)

morrison April 23rd, 2011 12:13 AM

Yeah it was pretty hard and needed lots of drinks and potions... but it was worth it , the best thing to train your pokes is against severely higher trainer :D


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