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Vrai April 26th, 2011 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TNeal (Post 6606916)
Those of you saying it is too early for Gray are apparently not considering the big picture. Ever since Red and Blue, the Pokémon franchise has maintained a pattern in which all three versions of each generation were released on the same console. In this pattern, the third version usually releases about two years after the other two versions. Two years is a smart strategy; anything less and releasing the same core software for the same system under a different title wouldn't be as profitable. However, by the time Black and White are two years old, the DS will likely be an obsolete dust-collector in most households; therefore, they would have to release Gray for the 3DS, which will by then be the dominant Nintendo handheld. But wait: if Gray is being released for a whole new platform, why wait two years? Previously, it was the best business strategy to wait, though the tides have changed; Nintendo needs to sell their new system, and they know a main series Pokémon game for said system will amplify demand. We all know Nintendo isn't going to pass up a chance to milk their cash cow.

I agree with this guy. ^

But also, I'm kind of hoping that it's another PMD game(s) if they are spin-offs. Those were always my favorite spin-offs considering everything and they've always had the greatest storylines ever in Pokémon games. I'm just wondering how a third set is going to bypass Explorers of Time and Darkness. ;-;

rocky505 April 26th, 2011 2:01 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6606085)
DS Lite are still sold in stores. Toys R Us gets regular shipments of DS lights when stores run low on product. The one I work at still has 8 of the Crimsons, 3 of the Blues, and 3 of the Pinks. We are getting a shipment of Pinks and more Crimsons with in the week. They are also bought more than the DSi and DSiXL at our store.

Gamestop have already announced that the DSlite will be removed from all stores. That is a sign that the DSlite is being removed. You can't say that DSlites are being sold everyone just because one TRU still sells them. The TRU I go to only has DSi,DSiXL and 3DS. They stopped the original DS when the DSi came out and now due to the 3DS the DSlite will die out just like the original.

p3ndu1um April 27th, 2011 8:38 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing a remake of Pokemon Yellow. Loved that game.

The 100 Mega Shock April 27th, 2011 8:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TNeal (Post 6606916)
Those of you saying it is too early for Gray are apparently not considering the big picture. Ever since Red and Blue, the Pokémon franchise has maintained a pattern in which all three versions of each generation were released on the same console. In this pattern, the third version usually releases about two years after the other two versions. Two years is a smart strategy; anything less and releasing the same core software for the same system under a different title wouldn't be as profitable. However, by the time Black and White are two years old, the DS will likely be an obsolete dust-collector in most households; therefore, they would have to release Gray for the 3DS, which will by then be the dominant Nintendo handheld. But wait: if Gray is being released for a whole new platform, why wait two years? Previously, it was the best business strategy to wait, though the tides have changed; Nintendo needs to sell their new system, and they know a main series Pokémon game for said system will amplify demand. We all know Nintendo isn't going to pass up a chance to milk their cash cow.

You think they can pump out revised version of Black and White with less than a year to listen to feedback and develop new features and content for the game (whilst finishing off whatever elements were previously scrapped for time), let alone develop this game for a brand-new system (one that would involve almost a complete remake of all the graphical assets) that quick?

Soul Eater April 27th, 2011 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by p3ndu1um (Post 6609450)
I wouldn't mind seeing a remake of Pokemon Yellow. Loved that game.

Hahaha. I would buy that.

Buuuut, I doubt it'll ever happen.

-still hoping that it's a R/S remake-

TNeal April 27th, 2011 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The 100 Mega Shock (Post 6609459)
You think they can pump out revised version of Black and White with less than a year to listen to feedback and develop new features and content for the game (whilst finishing off whatever elements were previously scrapped for time), let alone develop this game for a brand-new system (one that would involve almost a complete remake of all the graphical assets) that quick?

Why would they have to remake all the graphical assets...? They already have 95% of the game done, they'll just recycle the assets from Black and White just like Platinum recycled the assets from Diamond and Pearl--like Emerald recycled from Ruby and Sapphire. They'll probably just port Black/White to the 3DS and use the system's 3D capabilities to add depth to the game's existing graphics. Or maybe Black and White are DS ports of 3DS software! Game Freak was one of the first to get their hands on a 3DS dev kit, back when Black and White were in development (maybe before, I'm not sure). For all we know, they might have built the Black and White software using the 3DS kit with Gray in mind. Why else would they have wanted it so soon? You never know.

Regardless, my guess is that the game being announced is the next Wii battle game. Though I definitely wouldn't rule Gray out.

The 100 Mega Shock April 27th, 2011 1:45 PM

Do you realise the 3DS renders at a higher resolution than the DS, not to mention a massive boost in the horizontal aspect ratio?

this is a rough comparison of the resolution of the 3DS and DS's top screens: http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad217/GreatMazinger_sup_m/size_comparison.png

The resolution boost is much greater than the boost from the GBA to the DS, and that prompted a complete graphical update of the games. Not to mention the 3DS can pull out far greater polygonal graphics than a DS can, and has about 24 times as much memory as the DS.

What you're suggesting is the laziest thing I've ever heard and even I don't believe Nintendo and Game Freak would stoop so low as to repackage a DS game. Hell, the Zelda remake gets enough ire for looking kinda sub-par in the face of what other companies are producing for the 3DS, and development of that one was outsourced (and still looks noticeably better than the N64 original).

(I'm also pretty sure that Game Freak wants to get to grips with the 3DS as soon as possible so they can come out with as polished a game as possible roughly 2 years into the lifespan of the 3DS, like DP was to the DS)

pokehearts April 27th, 2011 3:14 PM

Noob
 
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Originally Posted by razzbat (Post 6603424)
actually, we are right. first off, it hasnt even been one year (where the hell do people get these retarded figures from?) since the release of bw in japan. so on the basis of previous third games, we can see that it is too early. plus with the transistion from ds to 3ds, it is expected to even take longer.
secondly, iwata has stated that a pokemon wii game is in development which will be released this year so naturally, we expect to see an announcement soon so naturally we'd assume that this announcement will be for that game.

Actually your wrong. >:( Iwata did say he had a pokemon game for wii in the works, BUT he also stated that he also had a game in the works for 3DS read the link :) http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Iwata_affirms_Pokémon_on_3DS also, it hasn't been a year for AMERICA but not for JAPAN for japan, it's been almost a year and a half. EAT THAT!

The Nightmare April 27th, 2011 3:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyrax (Post 6598787)
Would it be too early to announce the third version or R/S remakes?

Yeah it would, B/W was released in march and this one is in may or something which is kinda too early for the game. I hope it is good quality though.

Xander Olivieri April 27th, 2011 3:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rocky505 (Post 6607753)
Gamestop have already announced that the DSlite will be removed from all stores. That is a sign that the DSlite is being removed. You can't say that DSlites are being sold everyone just because one TRU still sells them. The TRU I go to only has DSi,DSiXL and 3DS. They stopped the original DS when the DSi came out and now due to the 3DS the DSlite will die out just like the original.

None of the ones near me are doing that. They still sell the original DS's that they have. They just recently posted that they aren't accepting Gameboy Advance games anymore because that system was just announced that they weren't producing or covering them anymore.

"Nintendo said that "Nintendo DS Lite is still available at most retail locations. Consumers will be able to find Nintendo DS Lite without much trouble." The company did not reveal the system's immediate future beyond that it is currently still available at "most retail locations.""

Quote taken from: http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/219038/nintendo-on-ds-lite-discontinuing/

So Nintendo is still making them. Gamestop just doesn't want to sell them. No DS Lite aren't discontinued as of yet and may be a bit later when they do so.

TNeal April 27th, 2011 7:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The 100 Mega Shock (Post 6609973)
Do you realise the 3DS renders at a higher resolution than the DS, not to mention a massive boost in the horizontal aspect ratio?

this is a rough comparison of the resolution of the 3DS and DS's top screens: http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad217/GreatMazinger_sup_m/size_comparison.png

The resolution boost is much greater than the boost from the GBA to the DS, and that prompted a complete graphical update of the games. Not to mention the 3DS can pull out far greater polygonal graphics than a DS can, and has about 24 times as much memory as the DS.

Instead of stretching the graphics to fit the new resolution (which I agree, that would be ugly), couldn't they just enlarge the viewing area? In other words, you'd be able to see Zoroark's feet and the tip of its ponytail in the 3DS version of that screenshot? I wouldn't know, I'm not a programmer.

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Originally Posted by The 100 Mega Shock (Post 6609973)
What you're suggesting is the laziest thing I've ever heard and even I don't believe Nintendo and Game Freak would stoop so low as to repackage a DS game. Hell, the Zelda remake gets enough ire for looking kinda sub-par in the face of what other companies are producing for the 3DS, and development of that one was outsourced (and still looks noticeably better than the N64 original).

Sir, the Pokémon franchise is famous for being lazy. Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, Platinum, and the Japanese Blue were all built with pre-existing software. However, the idea of Gray being for the 3DS sounds less lazy to me than any of the other third versions. Before, they were releasing basically the same game on the same console twice (thrice if you take into consideration that the first release was split into two versions). In this case, they would be releasing the same game onto two different consoles, which is the fate of most video games once you think about it. Take Madden '07 for example: it was released on PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, PlayStation Portable, Xbox, Xbox 360, Windows, DS, Game Boy Advance, Wii, and Nintendo GameCube. It's not lazy, it's smart.

As for the graphics being under par, it wouldn't be the first time. Look at the generation 4 games. The halved frame rate along with the awkward pseudo-3D make it look worse than generation 3, in my opinion. And the aesthetics of the battle system didn't even change between the two generations!

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Originally Posted by The 100 Mega Shock (Post 6609973)
(I'm also pretty sure that Game Freak wants to get to grips with the 3DS as soon as possible so they can come out with as polished a game as possible roughly 2 years into the lifespan of the 3DS, like DP was to the DS)

I agree with this, though I still think Gray will come for the 3DS first unless the graphics don't transfer well to the heightened resolution as you suggested. As for the Ruby/Sapphire remakes everyone has been hyping, I don't see them coming out until after the third version of generation 6, if at all.

AyameHikaru April 27th, 2011 7:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pokehearts (Post 6610120)
also, it hasn't been a year for AMERICA but not for JAPAN for japan, it's been almost a year and a half. EAT THAT!

America: Released early March 2011. Been out almost 2 months.
Japan: Released mid September 2010. Been out just over 7 months.

....How is 7 months a year and a half? O.o Before asking someone to eat something, make sure what you're serving isn't rotten.

razzbat April 28th, 2011 2:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pokehearts (Post 6610120)
Actually your wrong. >:( Iwata did say he had a pokemon game for wii in the works, BUT he also stated that he also had a game in the works for 3DS read the link :) http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Iwata_affirms_Pokémon_on_3DS also, it hasn't been a year for AMERICA but not for JAPAN for japan, it's been almost a year and a half. EAT THAT!

..........not even senju kannon has enough hands for this facepalm.
first off, do you know your months of the year? pokemon black and white came out in japan on september 19 2010. i bought it then. it is now april 28 2011. so it has been just over 7 months. and there are 12 months in a year which means, its been less than a year since bw has been released.
next; no, i am not wrong. i said they weren't going to announce pokemon grey so early, not that they weren't going to release a 3ds game. releasing a 3ds game does not mean that they will release pokemon grey. it could be anything. so it still stands that your wrong about it being highly likely that grey will be announced next month.
read what people say properly before shouting and calling them a noob.
oh and yes i will eat it. and throw it up on your doorstep. good day sir.

TheFuturePokemon April 28th, 2011 8:40 AM

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Change in plans people, it seems to be that the picture that was originally shown of "Pokemon Gray" is really Pokemon Colosseum (possibly) for the Nintendo 3DS! Could this really be possible? Well, it is. Now, I'm sorry for sort of copying here, but the game actually seems to feature the Agate's Village in Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness. The character shown also described the character in XD, and this could be a breakthrough. So it seems we got extremely opposite of what we hoped according to Kotaku, and instead there is a twist!
Spoiler:
Whoa wasn't expecting this at all. Below are pictures confirming it.
Source
http://i54.*.com/2nqqyv6.png

http://i52.*.com/e71pqv.png
this one pretty much seals the deal.

TNeal April 28th, 2011 10:35 AM

Those are not real, TheFuturePokemon. Some faker just took XD:GoD screenshots and imposed them on some 3DS pre-release pictures.

TheFuturePokemon April 28th, 2011 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TNeal (Post 6611681)
Those are not real, TheFuturePokemon. Some faker just took XD:GoD screenshots and imposed them on some 3DS pre-release pictures.

Yeah I kinda figured that out later on.

pokehearts April 30th, 2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by razzbat (Post 6611000)
..........not even senju kannon has enough hands for this facepalm.
first off, do you know your months of the year? pokemon black and white came out in japan on september 19 2010. i bought it then. it is now april 28 2011. so it has been just over 7 months. and there are 12 months in a year which means, its been less than a year since bw has been released.
next; no, i am not wrong. i said they weren't going to announce pokemon grey so early, not that they weren't going to release a 3ds game. releasing a 3ds game does not mean that they will release pokemon grey. it could be anything. so it still stands that your wrong about it being highly likely that grey will be announced next month.
read what people say properly before shouting and calling them a noob.
oh and yes i will eat it. and throw it up on your doorstep. good day sir.

Wow........... I give up. Your completely right, sorry. :/

solarowl April 30th, 2011 1:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vrai (Post 6607011)
I agree with this guy. ^

But also, I'm kind of hoping that it's another PMD game(s) if they are spin-offs. Those were always my favorite spin-offs considering everything and they've always had the greatest storylines ever in Pokémon games. I'm just wondering how a third set is going to bypass Explorers of Time and Darkness. ;-;

I agree with this guy.
I really hope it's a PMD game, as well. Those are the best Spinoffs. At least for me. With an awesome storyline for B/W, I bet they've got an even better one for PMD.

Fan_the_Flames April 30th, 2011 1:38 PM

Personally, I'm hoping for a new Pokemon Snap Game. I know there's only been one a long, long time ago for the Nintendo 64, but I think it could work really well with the 3DS. Using the camera to actually snap pictures, this time adding focus to the interface and point tallying. I mean, they have over 400 new Pokemon since the last one, I feel it's time they show them all in their natural habitat.

Giga Flare April 30th, 2011 3:33 PM

It'd be lovely if it were the R/S/E remakes. I'm hoping it won't be for the 3DS.

NamelessGuy April 30th, 2011 5:27 PM

I think it's too soon for the Gen III remakes. I'd much rather see another PMD game, with a better (and longer) storyline.

razzbat April 30th, 2011 8:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fan_the_Flames (Post 6616110)
Personally, I'm hoping for a new Pokemon Snap Game. I know there's only been one a long, long time ago for the Nintendo 64, but I think it could work really well with the 3DS. Using the camera to actually snap pictures, this time adding focus to the interface and point tallying. I mean, they have over 400 new Pokemon since the last one, I feel it's time they show them all in their natural habitat.

holy, that would be awesome! i was always thinking about pokemon snap for the wii and how cool it will be to use the pointer to take photos but now that you mention it, it could work so well on the 3ds. :D
though highly unlikely, it would be cool to have 2 pokemon snaps, one on wii and one 3ds and they could have half of all the pokemon on each of them.

pokewalker May 17th, 2011 6:43 AM

It's almost May 21st, and they canceled the date of it being revealed, sadly. It's now June 15th. Also, I think it'll be Pokémon Grey/Gray but I do hope for R/S remakes.

IceSage May 17th, 2011 7:15 AM

I honestly hope that the new Pokemon game is a new Pokemon Stadium style game for the Wii, with generations IV and V supported. I also hope they don't screw it up this time. Pokemon Battle Revolution was the worst of the bunch.

jespoke May 17th, 2011 7:29 AM

The wii one is probably the new Stadium game, with i hope is better than PBR :I


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