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Perriechu May 9th, 2011 2:32 AM

Biggest disappointment?
 
Ok, yeah that title is a major fail! ;____;

So, what was your biggest disappointment for the 3 games?

The amazingly slow text speed & Game Play?

The amount of HM's you needed to get through the game?

The serious bad lack of Fire Types? ;3;

The horridly low leveled trainers and wild Pokemon and the shockingly high important trainers? [Elite 4/Evil Team/Gym Leaders/Rival]

Or maybe something else? ;o;

Mine would have to be the game play and text speed... it's just so slow! ;___; I wish they would have made it faster like B/W then it would of been playable.

ShinyMeowth May 9th, 2011 3:38 AM

I hated the style of the generation as a whole (This is not a nostalgia thing, everything was terrible about the 4th generation). The player avatars are terrible, the villains look terrible, the 3D is a failure, the games progress far too slowly in the beginning, many Pokemon of the generation are just hate-able (See Piplup), and the atmosphere generally is bad and boring.

Seki May 9th, 2011 4:54 AM

Not able to catch the Red Gyrados that appeared at the beginning of the game. I think that the Red Gyrados is essential in the game because that is what I think the reason why the the protangonist and his rival started to travel on a pokemon journey... They should at least make the story focus on it instead of Team Galactic's conquest for dialga/palkia(?) to control time and space. That's an insult to a majestic shiny pokemon! (being sarcastic on the point on "majestic" considering that you can catch 1 in HG/SS)

Other than that, it's the sudden chaotic scene but its not really affecting the townsfolk unlike R/S/E.

BenjiTheKid May 9th, 2011 5:14 AM

Quote:

The horridly low leveled trainers and wild Pokemon and the shockingly high important trainers? [Elite 4/Evil Team/Gym Leaders/Rival]
THIS

I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed it, to be honest. I have such a hard time training my Pokemon in Platinum and it drives me crazy. Because I'll think I'm over-levelled because compared to the wild Pokemon and the trainers, I am. Then, I'll get to a gym or the League and get a wake up call. It drives me mad.

Also, the game seems to lag a LOT. I have never played a GBC/GBA/DS game that lags as badly as my copy of Platinum does. There seems to be a lag before battles, a lag before the start up screen... sometimes my sprite even seems to lag while he runs.

ShinyMeganium May 9th, 2011 5:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonomega (Post 6632066)
The amount of HM's you needed to get through the game?

How is that a bad thing? I love it when Gamefreak emphasizes the RPG element of Pokemon.

champagnepapi May 9th, 2011 11:45 AM

I guess the lack of Fire types was somewhat of a letdown, but there were no "real" disappointments for me with DPPt. It would be nice to have choices other than Chimchar and Rapidash, but I hardly ever use Fire Types, so the fact that DPPt lacked them didn't significantly disrupt my gameplay.

BenjiTheKid May 9th, 2011 1:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Karpman (Post 6632643)
I guess the lack of Fire types was somewhat of a letdown, but there were no "real" disappointments for me with DPPt. It would be nice to have choices other than Chimchar and Rapidash, but I hardly ever use Fire Types, so the fact that DPPt lacked them didn't significantly disrupt my gameplay.

In Platinum, the problem was kind of solved, though. In Platinum, you have Chimchar, Ponyta, Houndour, Magmar, and Flareon to choose from. In D/P you only have Chimchar and Ponyta, but I guess since I've never played Diamond or Pearl I don't see that as a disappointment.

Mokonist May 9th, 2011 1:16 PM

Pokémon Contests. I think they arruined it in Sinnoh and I loved the Hoenn Contests.

Jesspke May 9th, 2011 11:14 PM

Had to be how over powered the Elite4 was. Not to mention the champion.
Lol, I gave into my exp hack there, and my highest was lvl 80 empoleon, and that bugger of a champion still made waste with me. D;

TheGr8 May 10th, 2011 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesspke (Post 6633638)
Had to be how over powered the Elite4 was. Not to mention the champion.
Lol, I gave into my exp hack there, and my highest was lvl 80 empoleon, and that bugger of a champion still made waste with me. D;

I agree, The first time I got to play it was when HG/SS came out because I didn't play D/P until Platinum. I remember that as well. I trained pretty well, and I went into the Elite4 and did good through the first 3, and then the last one and Cynthia gave me a challenge. Before I even knew what Spiritomb was >__< after that I trained one for myself.

SuperSaiyanII May 10th, 2011 9:46 AM

It wasn't as boring to play as FR/LG were but they were still boring games overall. The Pokemon were in my opinion, the worst set to ever come out. Even the legendary Pokemon were dull(except Darkrai and Arceus). I also hated most of the music and how slow and boring the game is up until after the 7th gym. Then even after you beat the game in D/P there wasn't anything left to do but start over which I never really had the desire to do anyway. Platinum was OK to me but 4th gen is still my least favorite.

Rai May 10th, 2011 7:26 PM

I honestly can't think of any. I loved Pearl so much, it is one of my favorites.

PlatinumDude May 11th, 2011 1:51 AM

I was very disappointed in the slow movement speed in and the severe lack of Fire Pokemon in D/P (both got fixed in Platinum).

Binary May 11th, 2011 4:47 AM

I wasn't really disappointed with anything in particular. The three games were able to reach my overall expectations, not that I was expecting anything great from them. And I enjoyed playing the games. Maybe the lack of Fire types? idk.

donavannj May 11th, 2011 5:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SNOR(es)LAX (Post 6632145)
Not able to catch the Red Gyrados that appeared at the beginning of the game. I think that the Red Gyrados is essential in the game because that is what I think the reason why the the protangonist and his rival started to travel on a pokemon journey... They should at least make the story focus on it instead of Team Galactic's conquest for dialga/palkia(?) to control time and space. That's an insult to a majestic shiny pokemon! (being sarcastic on the point on "majestic" considering that you can catch 1 in HG/SS)

Er, what Red Gyarados are you talking about? I don't remember a Red Gyarados being there early in the game at all. There was either Mespirit, Azelf, or Uxie at the beginning of the game, but you can catch those after you beat Team Galactic.

As for my biggest disappointment, I wasn't expecting much in the first place, so I wasn't surprised.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ May 11th, 2011 6:31 AM

The slow surfing speed and the lack of Fire-type (moves) in D/P, both of which were corrected in Platinum.

The lack of Meowh and Trapinch and their evos in the main scenario game, which Platinum actually made worse by removing Trapinch and evos altogether...

But on the whole, I can't complain too much about the games (especially Platinum which fixed most of the issues with D/P)

professor plum May 11th, 2011 6:57 PM

Let's see.. for me?
Mutilation of Contests. I like the first two rounds, they just shouldn't have taken out combos D:

Anything else I had minor qualms with were adjusted in Platinum, which is one of my favorite games. :]

KHJEDIMASTER May 13th, 2011 3:25 AM

The slower gameplay in comparison to other games, particularly Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, which had really fast gameplay.

noniza101 May 20th, 2011 6:13 AM

not enough fire types they could have added more when u finish the game

Oliviahope1992 May 20th, 2011 4:24 PM

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Originally Posted by donavannj (Post 6635578)
Er, what Red Gyarados are you talking about? I don't remember a Red Gyarados being there early in the game at all. There was either Mespirit, Azelf, or Uxie at the beginning of the game, but you can catch those after you beat Team Galactic.

As for my biggest disappointment, I wasn't expecting much in the first place, so I wasn't surprised.

I think he meant "the search for the red gyarados" That's shown on the t.v when you first start the game.

It's actually my favorite game, I just wish they'd get rid of the bloody geodude and zubat. haha

2Cool4Mewtwo May 20th, 2011 6:38 PM

about 80% of Gen IV pokemon were forgettable (Let me just search a few - kricketune, chingling, carnivine? (unless you watched anime for the last one)), and about 95% of those 80% were pokemon that I genuinely hated, such as probopass, lickilicky (especially), etc.

Gameplay was slow overall as well, such as slower surfing animation, waiting like 2 seconds for pokemon to come out from pokeball, and attack animations taking like 10 seconds... glad it was fixed in Gen V.

Twilight-kun May 21st, 2011 5:12 PM

it....is....the....slowest...game....in....terms.....of.....game....speed

and after the Elite Four, then they dump a load of stuff on you

takethisboattothebattlefrontierandrunaroundatinyisland
doingnothingofanyvitalimprotanceorrevelevencetothemain
gameasawhole

YouMadBro? May 21st, 2011 6:02 PM

I found the game so boring compared to the others. It might have to do something with the sloooow gameplay.

Detox May 26th, 2011 1:59 PM

The fact that Platinum was even made. Ruined the metagame back then, to me at least.

ManhattanTheStarr May 26th, 2011 6:16 PM

The amazingly slow text speed & Game Play?

The amount of HM's you needed to get through the game?

The serious bad lack of Fire Types? ;3;

^
All o' dat.
The extremely slow battling in D/P was horrid. I just don't get how we could go from such a fast battling pace (R/S/E and FR/LG) to an extremely slow one. I mean, it just made the entire game soooo boring... I also hate the back sprite animations of the Pokemon (there were just a couple animations that were reused for every Pokemon!), and there's the lame storyline, the aggravating 3rd rival (who you never battle) that acts like a little professor's pet, and the most important thing: the uncannilly (yes, I know that's not a word) large amount of legendaries. Most of the legends you meet in the game have NO back story whatsoever, and are just sitting in their "tombs" or whatever. The game didn't give any type of importance to them, and I hate D/P for that.

Fortunately, Platinum managed to fix almost every issue in D/P (except the legends thing), so I kinda like Platinum. It's just that the Gen IV Pokemon are just so lame in general... IMO. :x



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