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Sydian May 11th, 2011 5:04 PM

I don't wanna remove anything tbh. I think all Pokemon have a reason for being there! :] And I can't think of anything I'd wanna replace tbh. Buuuut a few places in the game are lacking in diversity, and I think stuff should be added...but the lack of diversity is probably because it's all Unova Pokemon in BW. Now I'm just getting off topic though haha. But yeah, I wouldn't remove anything~

Mattxy8 May 11th, 2011 5:04 PM

I would remove ducklett...
Because there arent many people who get a Fly/Water type and finding a duck on a bridge? thats unlikely...yes, the flying/water combonation is pretty good...but against an electric it stands no-little chance...I just think that Ducklett just isn't necessary, I caught ONE wingull EVER and that was because I needed a pokemon to teach fly.

Seeds Horizon May 11th, 2011 5:28 PM

I like most Pokemon, though scrolling down this topic I have found some kindred spirits who agree with me ;D.

Mainly Vanillite and its line, Chandelure and its line, and um..That trash Pokemon I always forget about XD.

Vanillite because, well..Its a failed Ice type. I never used it, mostly because of its look, and also because the name fails, and finally because..I dont think he was ever very useful. I tried using him..But failure. I went for the cute pre-evolution of Beartic...

Chandelure..Hes a candle. What, was the designer up late at night drawing by candlelight and got an amazing idea? Geez. Plus, I think theres way better Ghost types to use..

Trash Pokemon is trash. Weak, barely has any use, and the design..Im guessing it was trash day that day >_>.

Another one..I know I mentioned it before that I was using it, but only as a replacement for Vanillite, because his design wasnt all too bad. Beartic. It seems to be (And its pre-evolution) to be an Ice version of Ursaring.. Add some weird crown thingy on its head thats ice and turn it white and blue, and BAM! You have a new Pokemon >_>.

I know at the last it was mostly about the design..Sorry! At least most of my post gives real reasons right?;D.

Tyranee May 11th, 2011 7:11 PM

I'd get rid of Garbador, the Timbur trio (Timburr, Gurr durr, and ConkellDERP >_<), and the ice cream cones.

Garbador and Trubbish I'd just not put in at all and have Grimer and Muk after the first elite 4 battle in B/W instead. The garbagemons are horrible ideas for designs and quite frankly I think we have enough "synthetic" Pokemon (Porygon trio and Genesect *cough*).

I'd get rid of the Timburr Trio and replace them with the thing they ripped off: The Machop trio. The Machop trio is much cooler and they're original. The Timburr trio are just Gen 5 ripoffs.

I'd get rid of the ice cream trio for obvious reasons. They're useless and their design is lazy. Every time I see one I want to fire punch it in it's friken melty face. Replace them with any other ice type.

Also one I forgot to add. EMONGA. That little jerk is just a Pikachu with wings. Every time I see a Pikachu ripoff I want to shoot it. However Emonga is so annoying with its double team that I'd probably miss until I faint. Kill that little buttmuncher >.>

koji8123 May 11th, 2011 7:44 PM

I'm in agreement with most here. Audino, the trash pokemon, the icecream pokemon, stunfisk, they all have to go.

I'd also add the Kami trio. Seriously we already have the weather trio, Groudon and Kyogre, we don't need more. I'd also personally remove the mole pokemon.. We have HAD these pokemon before, Diglett, and Dugtrio. Grimer and Muk was the original trash/polution pokemon. They really have lost orifinality. I'd remove Munna/Musharna, we have Drowzee and Hypno.. pidove etc. we have pidgey...wooat for zoobat

Seriously 90 % of this newest gen, aren't really that original if you look at them.

Tyranee May 11th, 2011 7:52 PM

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Originally Posted by koji8123 (Post 6636610)
I'm in agreement with most here. Audino, the trash pokemon, the icecream pokemon, stunfisk, they all have to go.

I'd also add the Kami trio. Seriously we already have the weather trio, Groudon and Kyogre, we don't need more. I'd also personally remove the mole pokemon.. We have HAD these pokemon before, Diglett, and Dugtrio. Grimer and Muk was the original trash/polution pokemon. They really have lost orifinality. I'd remove Munna/Musharna, we have Drowzee and Hypno.. pidove etc. we have pidgey...wooat for zoobat

Seriously 90 % of this newest gen, aren't really that original if you look at them.

This is true. However though lacking in originality for their gimmick, Munna and Musharna look great and have great symbolism behind them (it's my speculation that it's something to do with abortions since they're both dreaming fetuses). I would prefer them over Hypno and Drowsie any day since the aforementioned don't really have any deeper meaning.

vagrantwanderer May 11th, 2011 8:10 PM

Gothita and, by default- its evolutions. Not only is it creepy looking, I find it hard to believe that we needed ANOTHER goofy looking psychic type. And really, GOTHita should have been a dark type obviously, and on top of that it is offensive by using an outdated "goth" design when making the design. Goths no longer dress in white bows and red lipstick (admittedly that would be cooler, but).

TheGr8 May 11th, 2011 8:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NightOfRemorse (Post 6636640)
Personally, Pokémon like Dunsparce, Finneon, and Lumineon just HAVE to go! I mean really, nobody even knows what they are >.>

Also, that garbage Pokémon. Ew.


Gotta agree with this, ahaha.


I agree, dunsparce in pokemon stadium two made me mad >___< i like your Original Squritle btw. I forgot to mention that the ice cream cone is just uhh it's too slow anyway and well. I think Lick attack should be super effective xD

Gothitelle. May 12th, 2011 4:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Seeds Horizon (Post 6636442)

Chandelure..Hes a candle. What, was the designer up late at night drawing by candlelight and got an amazing idea? Geez. Plus, I think theres way better Ghost types to use..

YAY NOW I DON'T FEEL LIKE A FREAK ANYMORE! xD

I agree or at least be a ledongary.

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Originally Posted by vagrantwanderer (Post 6636637)
Gothita and, by default- its evolutions. Not only is it creepy looking, I find it hard to believe that we needed ANOTHER goofy looking psychic type. And really, GOTHita should have been a dark type obviously, and on top of that it is offensive by using an outdated "goth" design when making the design. Goths no longer dress in white bows and red lipstick (admittedly that would be cooler, but).

As a fan of the Goth, I have to agree on you about looks. I didn't like it when they overexgaerate the lips... like they did with Jynx. I thought it was very cliche and dumb. I do however like the bow and her hair and her dress and her other bows. Maybe make the dress shorter or something like they did for Gothorita.. and she had legs.

As for being a dark type I say nay. Gothia can be pure physic but Gothorita and Gothitelle should be Physic/Fighting. Why? Because for one, it's a nice to see a little girl as a fighter. Mostly, fighting types go to big bulky, manly Pokemon. (except Moeletta). Also, she's got potential as a fighter. Fighting types are considered not only the most useful but the most honurable.

Also, bringing up stereotypes, Gothitelle being a dark type will only amplify the goth stereotype even more than it's looks. Her and her second form being part fighting however, will break not only the goth stereotype, but the also the female stereotypes as well. A little girl lots of bows, a cute dress and a fragile frame doing close combat? AWESOME.

Lastly,it'd help her reception. If she was part fighting, she's be up there with the overrated Pokemon like Reniclus and Chandelure since she has a type that is mostly used. She won't be overrated (thank god), but she'd be given a chance.

marcc5m May 12th, 2011 6:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Seeds Horizon (Post 6636442)
Chandelure..Hes a candle. What, was the designer up late at night drawing by candlelight and got an amazing idea? Geez. Plus, I think theres way better Ghost types to use..

Actually, the Litwick line is based on Will-o'-the-wisp. It's a ghostly light--specifically a lamp--that lures travellers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will-o'-the-wisp
And here is Litwick's Pokedex entry:
"While shining a light and pretending to be a guide, it leeches off the life force of any who follow it."

skyluigi2 May 12th, 2011 9:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Seeds Horizon (Post 6636442)
I like most Pokemon, though scrolling down this topic I have found some kindred spirits who agree with me ;D.

Mainly Vanillite and its line, Chandelure and its line, and um..That trash Pokemon I always forget about XD.

Vanillite because, well..Its a failed Ice type. I never used it, mostly because of its look, and also because the name fails, and finally because..I dont think he was ever very useful. I tried using him..But failure. I went for the cute pre-evolution of Beartic...

Chandelure..Hes a candle. What, was the designer up late at night drawing by candlelight and got an amazing idea? Geez. Plus, I think theres way better Ghost types to use..

Trash Pokemon is trash. Weak, barely has any use, and the design..Im guessing it was trash day that day >_>.

Another one..I know I mentioned it before that I was using it, but only as a replacement for Vanillite, because his design wasnt all too bad. Beartic. It seems to be (And its pre-evolution) to be an Ice version of Ursaring.. Add some weird crown thingy on its head thats ice and turn it white and blue, and BAM! You have a new Pokemon >_>.

I know at the last it was mostly about the design..Sorry! At least most of my post gives real reasons right?;D.

Why? I have all these three in my party. That just owned my friend who had Moltres, Articuno, Zapdos, Suicune, Mew and Mewtwo. Yes, because he is just like that.
So, as you can see, these Pokemon are awesome. And once again, it's down to design.
Yep. Vanillite's design is totally original and definetly NOT weak. It's one of the more USEFUL ice types in the games. And why does the name fail? Vanillite. Vanilla. Lite. LITE VANILLA ICE-CREAM, WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?

Anyway, Chandelure. Is. Stupidly. Over-powered. Took out most of the E4 by itself, this one. And so what if it's a candle. Candles are awesome too. But, so are ice-creams, but lets not go there again.

So, Garbador. Down to design again. Who cares? It's strong and powerful. Sure, it's ability may not be THAT useful, but it's still a definite usable Pokemon.

But no matter what I say I'm not gonna change anyone's opinions.
Just for the record, though...

VANILLITE IS AWESOME.
CHANDELURE IS AWESOME.
GARBADOR IS AWESOME.

Anyway, I wouldn't actually get rid of any Pokemon, because I like them all :D


So, in future, please don't throw Pokemon aside, just because of their appearance. If people did this, they'd never find the right person.

-totodile42

bwburke94 May 12th, 2011 10:47 AM

Either Stunfisk or Cryogonal. By the way, Cryogonal is genderless and can learn Attract.

vagrantwanderer May 12th, 2011 12:33 PM

[QUOTE=Gothitelle.;6637021][COLOR="Magenta"]
YAY NOW I DON'T FEEL LIKE A FREAK ANYMORE! xD




As for being a dark type I say nay. Gothia can be pure physic but Gothorita and Gothitelle should be Physic/Fighting. Why? Because for one, it's a nice to see a little girl as a fighter.

Agreed- that's what made Kickass such an awesome movie! And I guess making it dark type would be a bit too cliche now that I think about it.

Palamon May 12th, 2011 12:50 PM

But...I don't wanna remove any Pokemon...! Kidding.
Stunfisk. It makes no sense putting it into the game. It a little useless if you ask me. Doesn't need to be in the games at all, really.

Pika-power May 13th, 2011 6:17 PM

All the object based pokemon, personally. They are such a deviation from the core values of the original games it's not funny. The Ice Cream pokemon? Next thing I know they'll be making a Jihadist pokemon with an evolution of Osama Bin laden's ghost.

Vrai May 13th, 2011 6:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pika-power (Post 6639505)
All the object based pokemon, personally. They are such a deviation from the core values of the original games it's not funny. The Ice Cream pokemon? Next thing I know they'll be making a Jihadist pokemon with an evolution of Osama Bin laden's ghost.

I don't know how you can say something as... idk, as blatantly contradictory as that? Have you seen some of the Pokemon from the original games? Muk is a Pokemon based on a giant pile of sludge. Magnemite is a Pokemon based off of some floating magnet thing. And then we have Geodude and friends, all of whom are based off of rocks and other nonliving objects. What the heck are Voltorb and Electrode anyway if they aren't just "object"-based Pokemon?

I guess if anything I'm just saying you're being ignorant/nostalgic/overcritical or whatever you want to call it. The argument that Pokemon is deviating from some of the original concepts is crass imo, especially when most of the original concepts were incredibly similar!

Farfetchd May 13th, 2011 8:24 PM

No ones said klink yet?Wow! I don't like klink because it seems useless and took them 5 minutes.

The Nightmare May 13th, 2011 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mucus (Post 6635075)
I would remove Buffalon, it's a really weak Pokémon overall.
I don't like that it has no evolution, and that it's another hooved pokémon.
Everytime I run into it, my heart fills with dread, not because it'll beat me, but because i will beat it.
I also don't like the way it looks.

I'd like the Heatmor to be more prevelant, and to replace Buffalon.

D: what's wrong with buffalon, he's way better than tauros in kanto.

but anyway, I would get rid of turbish because It's not a really good pokemon to use in the game and it evolution is not that great because it will be still weak to use even though you train it soo much.


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