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Shining Raichu October 6th, 2011 2:44 PM

Welcome to johnny18! It's never too late to join :)

U_Flame has given me a great idea for a question!

How would you feel if homosexuality were to be somehow included in Pokemon - be it in the games, the anime, the manga or any other format. Do you think it's appropriate for a franchise aimed at children?

Squirrel October 6th, 2011 2:48 PM

It'd be good to promote its normality at a young age - however parents will never agree on that... It'd be so cute seeing Ash with a guy though x3 And would explain the countless non-relationships he's had with his partners. That, or just because he's 10...

Alice October 6th, 2011 3:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Shining Raichu (Post 6877911)
Welcome to johnny18! It's never too late to join :)

U_Flame has given me a great idea for a question!

How would you feel if homosexuality were to be somehow included in Pokemon - be it in the games, the anime, the manga or any other format. Do you think it's appropriate for a franchise aimed at children?

I wouldn't care... but this is pokemon we're talking about. The show that banned a character completely for being the color black.

deoxys121 October 6th, 2011 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shining Raichu (Post 6877911)
How would you feel if homosexuality were to be somehow included in Pokemon - be it in the games, the anime, the manga or any other format. Do you think it's appropriate for a franchise aimed at children?

It's completely appropriate, in my opinion. As homosexuality is becoming more accepted, I think Pokemon having a gay character would be a great example to children that homosexuality is completely normal and should be accepted. In the games, it would be interesting to have a feature where the character gets in a relationship with either the same gender or opposite gender based on actions taken in the game.

EDIT: Maybe since Unova is based on New York, and gay marriage is legal in New York, they would show a gay marriage taking place in one episode in the Best Wishes series. Just a thought. :)

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Originally Posted by QuilavaKing (Post 6877944)
I wouldn't care... but this is pokemon we're talking about. The show that banned a character completely for being the color black.

What??? When did that happen, and which character? I wouldn't think it's Brock, since he stuck around through the DP series.

Shining Raichu October 6th, 2011 3:36 PM

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Originally Posted by deoxys121 (Post 6877970)
What??? When did that happen, and which character? I wouldn't think it's Brock, since he stuck around through the DP series.

I think he's referring to them changing Jynx from black to purple lol, though he said "banned" so I could be wrong.

Alice October 6th, 2011 4:35 PM

I thought they banned it at first, and then later on changed it to purple.

twistedpuppy October 6th, 2011 5:57 PM

How would you feel if homosexuality were to be somehow included in Pokemon - be it in the games, the anime, the manga or any other format. Do you think it's appropriate for a franchise aimed at children?

I don't see anything wrong so long as it's tastefully done. I remember a few years ago there being controversy about a book being banned from a school because it was about two princes falling in love. Sounds like my kind of fairy tale.

Hiidoran October 6th, 2011 8:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shining Raichu (Post 6877911)
How would you feel if homosexuality were to be somehow included in Pokemon - be it in the games, the anime, the manga or any other format. Do you think it's appropriate for a franchise aimed at children?

I think it's completely appropriate!

Honestly, I don't think it's too far off. Maybe not in Pokémon, but certainly somewhere in a childrens' franchise. Society is slowly, slowly accepting homosexuality as normality. It's only natural to begin teaching this at an early age. Someone just needs to step up and be the pioneer in this territory.

/in before Sesame Street

FreakyLocz14 October 6th, 2011 9:25 PM

If people were making such a fuss that Jynx was supposedly racist, I don't think homosexuality in Pokemon games would go over too well with people. Sad, but people will always find something to complain about.

Her October 6th, 2011 9:31 PM

As much as I'd welcome homosexuality in the Pokémon games, there'd be much protest about the inclusion of homosexuals (it'd be funny to hear Michele Bachmann go on a rant about POKAYMON) and it would most likely never be included.

ohHeyVaporeon. October 6th, 2011 10:01 PM

I feel like it would be completely appropriate.

As someone has already said, I feel like it is best to get children used to it while they are young (although controversial) will make it easier for them to understand when they grow up.

Squirrel October 7th, 2011 12:53 AM

On second thoughts, I'm starting it think it could be inappropriate. Not because of the theme itself, but just because there's never really been any kind of important romances in the show. They could certainly bring in a homosexual couple as two characters in a random episode as trainers or something, but the show has never focused on the main characters having relationships before, so why should it now?

Taemin October 7th, 2011 12:59 AM

^ I'm gonna agree with that. It'd be okay for other anime series, but Pokemon cares nothing for romance besides Misty crushing on Ash in the dub, and Drew handing May a rose once or twice. I guess there could be subtle hints like such between two guys or two girls, but aside from that it would be out of a place. Granted, there has been noticeably gay characters, like Harley for one, but eh.

johnny18 October 7th, 2011 1:24 AM

[Welcome to johnny18! It's never too late to join :) - Thanks ^_^



How would you feel if homosexuality were to be somehow included in Pokemon - be it in the games, the anime, the manga or any other format. Do you think it's appropriate for a franchise aimed at children?
I think it would be appropriate because it can give the our new generation a new look about homosexuality and make it more likely to be accepted in all over the world as a natural thing. If it is about pokemon, I think it does not matter as pokemon is just about adventures and challenges and bond of friendships rather than a relationship between two people.

Ineffable~ October 7th, 2011 7:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Drew (Post 6878494)
Granted, there has been noticeably gay characters, like Harley for one, but eh.

Don't forget Dome Ace Tucker.
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/3a/SpriteTucker.png

Squirrel October 7th, 2011 7:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ineffable~ (Post 6878767)

Haha oh Gosh, how could I forget that character! Ohhh that brings back memories.

Ineffable~ October 7th, 2011 7:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexOzzyCake (Post 6878771)


Haha oh Gosh, how could I forget that character! Ohhh that brings back memories.

xD
SERIOUSLY THOUGH. He was so tough in battle.
I've never beat him. ;-;

Anyway, on topic:

About the issue of including homosexuality in Pokémon, I'm really kind of bothered by the general lack of representation of gender/sexuality-non-conforming in cartoons, so I rather like the idea. Actually, I think I've heard talk of same-sex pairings in Pokémon that are oddly canon (according to the people who talk about them). Doesn't May have a friend that looks like a lesbian or something? :P

Oryx October 7th, 2011 7:20 AM

I think the most that could be hoped for is once or twice they threw in some more double battles in the games with two males or two females. I think all they have right now is this.

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e1/Spr_BW_Hooligans.png

Esper October 7th, 2011 9:38 AM

I think it’s as appropriate as any kind of relationship/sexuality topic would be in the games, or, in other words, not very appropriate. It’s really not the focus of the games at all. (Or the anime from what I gather.)


That said, I wouldn’t be opposed to it if it were included, but I'd hope it would be something done well and not some token inclusion.

Mew~ October 7th, 2011 10:31 AM

I draw your attention to this thread Scarf. Nothing blatant though.

Melody October 8th, 2011 6:38 PM

How would you feel if homosexuality were to be somehow included in Pokemon - be it in the games, the anime, the manga or any other format. Do you think it's appropriate for a franchise aimed at children?

It would be acceptable to present a happily married same-sex couple as someone they encounter along their journey in the Anime/Manga for sure, so long as they did it tastefully.

I don't think it would float as well in the game because of it's 'E' rating from the ESRB, and would definitely make E10+ in the US if they did that. No idea how much the homophobes would complain and cry about it, but there would be some 'baww'-ing from that general direction.

tl;dr: Anime/Manga is a good place to do it, just not the game...because younger children DO play the game and parents can be quite overprotective, especially if they're phobic.

Shining Raichu October 8th, 2011 7:45 PM

Wow. Is this some small progress I see?

Presbyterian Church ordains its first openly gay minister.

Taemin October 8th, 2011 8:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Shining Raichu (Post 6881053)
Wow. Is this some small progress I see?

Presbyterian Church ordains its first openly gay minister.

holydang. Yeeeesss.

That makes me happy. xD

This might've already happened in some places before and just got no media notice, but if not and this is totally a first then this is awesome.
Well okay, it's awesome either way. It's nice to see some progress.

-Jared- October 8th, 2011 8:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shining Raichu (Post 6881053)
Wow. Is this some small progress I see?

Presbyterian Church ordains its first openly gay minister.

That is awesome! And, I don't know if I have said this here before, but more good news (from a while ago, but still) is that the ELCA, or Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, voted about a year and a half ago I think, to allow openly gay people to become pastors. ^__^ It's had an impact on the church, but I certainly was happy about that!

-ty- October 8th, 2011 8:45 PM

Okay, so... I guess I just need advice/venting.

Anyway I have been feeling like crap the past couple of months because my ex, who I have lived with for 2 years, was cheating on me. So now I don't really trust anyone, and will not for a long time. So, there are few gay guys, none of which I am interested, that live in town. So...I just go to the internet for dating, might I mind you my two ex's had both been cheating on me and both I "met" online. Should I just wait until I am done with school to date, after I move to a larger city?

I guess I just really miss him, I don't know how else to put it. I did everything for him, and he just tossed me aside I guess. Like literally a week before he went down state and slept with this guy, and apparently fell in love with him, he grabbed me by the head and looked me dead in the eyes and said a bunch of bs, "I love you. How did I get so lucky? I want to let you know that I would never hurt you or leave you, you have changed my life so much." I just feel like, no one is to be trusted, I am starting to hate being gay, not because of the way strangers treat/perceive me, but rather, how every guy wants to be in an open relationship. I just do not know what else I can do right. I mean, I pay bills, go to school, I am cute (so I have been told time and again not to be vainglorious, lmao), I am honest, I do everything for the other person, and I always do as they ask. Apparently, he was only sexually attracted to me, that is all. then he smiled, and started had some little 15 year old next him (he is 23) and started to just have a blast. And yeah, I don't get it. I felt like my entire life was just completely destroyed at the time, and he was just so ecstatic. Okay, my ranting is over, it probably doesn't make sense. I just think that maybe I am becoming too obsessed with being interdependent on someone else. It all just makes me soo angry that he was using me and now he is having a blast hooking up with everyone, while I am devasted, and I don't know how to just get on with life. Btw...he did give me an engagement ring, but...who knows. (he pawned it)
Okay, for cereal, I am done, lol.


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