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Babebraham June 1st, 2011 11:04 AM

Do you think they should've made new evolutions in B/W?
 
I think they should have made a new eeveelution.

PaxAmericana June 1st, 2011 12:02 PM

None, B&W was meant to be a new beginning.

So No New Evolution(s).

Mr155555 June 1st, 2011 1:31 PM

I Think Stunfisk Should Get An Evolution

dieter57 June 1st, 2011 2:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr155555 (Post 6671872)
I Think Stunfisk Should Get An Evolution

i think he meant what previous pokemon should get evos.

i like how there weren't any. but just a whole bunch of parallels. considering that unova is far away it's kinda of like a different type of a specie.

TheAzureTrainer June 1st, 2011 2:49 PM

New eevee evo?(dragon?)
Ditto?(unexplored)
Combee Male evo

Oryx June 1st, 2011 3:03 PM

I would've liked to see some branched evolutions of older Pokemon. Think of it like the evolution of Pokemon; because some Pokemon are in Unova and some are in the other regions, they evolved differently. :3

smithtism June 1st, 2011 3:07 PM

They should definitely have given an evolution to Jinx out of fairness, cuz Scyther, Magmar, and Electabuzz have evolved.

Ho-Oh June 1st, 2011 7:36 PM

hay guys just a note, if you're gunna list Pokemon you want evolutions of, that fits into Pokemon General [ here. ]

To avoid this, I changed the title a little so instead of discussing evolutions you'd have wanted, you can now discuss whether they should've had evolutions for past Pokemon and why / why not - referring to Unova being isolated, etc. If you just list Pokemon you want evolutions of, then from now on, we're just gunna delete your posts and redirect you to the Pokemon General thread. :(

Anyway, I believe that evolutions for past Pokemon weren't necessary, especially considering DPPT introduced so many, and B/W was trying to be isolated from the other regions. I think if this occured, well, there probably would be complaints about the Pokemon even more so. For example, Garbodor and Stunfisk aren't necessarily the most liked Pokemon ever, and if they were to create evolutions for past Pokemon I can't help thinking they'd have gone down that route tbh.

Glaceon_ June 2nd, 2011 12:36 AM

Just a note I'd like to make on Toujours' post, branched evolutions that can only be obtained in Unova is a terrible idea. It would mean that without trading from a Generation V game that is not in Unova, we wouldn't be able to 'Catch 'em all'.

As for as to if they should have made new evolutions in B/W for past generation Pokemon... I'd say no. Primarily because of what Reshiram Man stated; B/W were meant to be the beginning of a new journey, comparable to the original games on the Game Boy in scale. Had they stuffed in new evolutions of old Pokemon, it would have felt forced, regardless of how much I want to see Eevee's evolutions come full circle.

The point of B/W was to branch out the lands of Pokemon in a way that made it feel like a whole new adventure, with all new Pokemon wherever you turn (until you complete the game, of course!) and all new people for you to meet... and I feel they've achieved that. It may not be as grand or well-received by old fans as R/B/Y were, but it comes across as a new and exciting adventure, and for that is part of why I like it.

Legendary Silke June 2nd, 2011 12:49 AM

I liked the fact that they didn't introduce new evolutions of past Pokémon. I don't have to be bothered with everything in the past when I don't feel the need. Besides, this also ensures a new experience for new people. It felt fine like this. Introducing a new evolution for an older Pokémon runs the risk of messing things up.

Shining Raichu June 2nd, 2011 1:50 AM

Yes! I would have loved some new evolutions and Eeveelutions. My main problem with B/W is the whole "new beginning - new region FAR AWAY" aspect. It felt so alienating. Also, it brings the problem of future generations - if they're all set in new regions far away from the first four, are we EVER going to get more evolutions of the Gen 1-4 Pokemon. I really want that full set of 17 Eeveelutions!

Brane June 2nd, 2011 1:50 AM

It's been four generations and I still haven't got my Charizard evo, wtf is this?

But I believe they did it on purpose, there is little to no influence or storyline involving Pokemon from past generations beside those few little routes you can visit after the E4.

p3ndu1um June 2nd, 2011 2:33 AM

Loved to of seen Miltank, Tauros, Jynx, Skarmory and Pinsir to of been evolved into somthing cool.

PlatinumDude June 2nd, 2011 2:51 AM

As much as I would've liked to say "yes" on the poll, I went with "no" because B/W were meant to make fresh starts on the Pokemon series.

Vrai June 2nd, 2011 3:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glaceon_ (Post 6672616)
Just a note I'd like to make on Toujours' post, branched evolutions that can only be obtained in Unova is a terrible idea. It would mean that without trading from a Generation V game that is not in Unova, we wouldn't be able to 'Catch 'em all'.

Eh well we had Magnezone, Probopass, Glaceon & Leafeon who all evolved specifically in Sinnoh, in certain parts that is. They can still evolve in -similar- locales in Unova; I'm guessing that's what Toujours was talking about. Not just that they had to be in Unova in general but that they'd evolve because of new locations in Unova like the Giant Chasm etc. :3

I think I would have liked new evolutions, but I'm okay without them as well. Like everyone else said, Unova was intended to be a fresh start just like RBY (which had no previous evolutions since... well, it was the first game). I still think it would have been cool to make that one fish Pokemon whose name I can't spell for the life of me a Luvdisc evo and other things beyond that. :D

Kenshin5 June 2nd, 2011 6:12 AM

We had 20+ evolutions in the 4th Generation. I believe that is more then Gen 2 and 3 combined. So I really see no need to throw in a bunch more. Unova isolation gives me more reason that I don't feel they should incorporate evolutions from past generations. If they did then have them present before the Post Game.

Metal Electric June 2nd, 2011 7:15 AM

Yes, Alomomola would be perfect with Luvdisc and the same with Tauros and Buffalon.

Nihilego June 2nd, 2011 7:44 AM

Definitely! Lots of things could have used new evos. Ones that spring to mind are Sableye, Mawile and Luvdisc.

That said though, as some people have pointed out, the game was meant to be a fresh start for the whole franchise. Nonetheless they could have still included them.

o3o June 2nd, 2011 7:47 AM

Yes. At first I thought Bouffalant was a Tauros evo.

I think though it was a new start, they could've included new evolutions, maybe post-game.

mikey June 2nd, 2011 8:28 AM

I liked that they didn't add any new evolutions in B/W. B/W was meant to be a new beginning in a far away region, so adding new evolutions would defeat the purpose imo.

Besides, we got so many new evolutions in D/P/P XD

Esper June 2nd, 2011 10:01 AM

Not having evolutionary relationships to pre-Gen V pokemon means that it'll be a lot easier to make some evolutions (or babies, or branches evolutions) for a hypothetical Gen VI since we have so many new pokemon without attachments. If too many Gen V pokemon were related to old pokemon there'd be a lot less room for future developments.

deoxys121 June 2nd, 2011 11:11 AM

I think they should have added a few new evolutions. Maybe a couple new Eeveelutions. Also, I don't know about you, but when I first saw Alomomola, I thought "That must be an evolution of Luvdisc." I was surprised it wasn't. One thing I think could have been a good idea would have been to add the evolutions and pre-evolutions after the Unova Dex. Also, make it so you can't obtain the basic forms until after the National Dex, similar to what they did in D/P.

Golden Warrior June 2nd, 2011 3:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiKasnAp (Post 6671670)
I think they should have made a new eeveelution.

I agree. A steel eveelution would be nice.

Also, agreeing with deoxys121, the resemblance between Luvdisc and Alomomola makes the Alomomola look like Luvdisc's evolution.

Osha_say_wott?! June 3rd, 2011 12:03 AM

I'm quite happy they didn't include any other new evolutions stemming from Pokémon in previous generations. A small quibble of mine is that whenever they add an extension evolution to a Pokémon, from a previous generation, it disorganizes the assortment of the order of the PokéDex. I guess I'm a bit OCD and have to have, and would like to see, a systematic dex. But that's just me. xP
Also, this is meant to be a new beginning for the series. Unova is a fresh start to start over again and wanting to give this generation its on identity, like starting over from step one with original Pokémons not associated with previous games. Not incorporating new evolutions of Pokémon from preceding games made it feel like it really was a new and refreshing start.

Gymnotide June 3rd, 2011 12:34 AM

Nincada evolution that stays part Ground and Surskit evolution that stays part Water. Just 'cause.

I think they really messed up when they didn't add new evolutions for some of the old Pokemon. Looking at the new generation, GameFreak is definitely shifting the balance of Pokemon unnecessarily. They added TONS of Pokemon with frighteningly high stats, yet they pay little attention to older Pokemon that need upgrades to keep up with the power of Generation V. Chandelure has UNGODLY amounts of SpATK with three fantastic abilities, while Hydreigon is a pretty fearsome attacker on both ends of the spectrum. Darmanitan can basically destroy anything that dares touches it with Flare Blitz + Sheer Force. Fair? What ever happened to Kecleon? And Seviper / Zangoose? Who uses Banette?

Sure, Dream World abilities helped some Pokemon, but really suck for others. Victreebel with Gluttony? Ludicolo with Own Tempo? Masquerain with Unnerve?

Shake my head, PowerFreak.


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