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The Shadow Triad
In the games, the shadow triad are basically people who work for Ghetsis throughout the storyline. There's only three of them and there's basically no history behind them.
1. Do you like the shadow triad? Would've you preferred if they had some sort of storyline themselves? Or do you find them creepy? :( 2. How do you feel about the shadow triad = cilan, cress and chili theory? Do you think it's likely - if so, do you have reasoning to back that up or are you one of those who thinks it's a stupid and unlikely theory? (Truthfully, I made this because I didn't really consider this an easter egg, so hopefully discussion can remain here with um, more interesting theories!) |
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Yeah, I dunno though. I'm a firm believer that yes, they're the Striaton Gym Leaders but I think that honestly if they are it'll be revealed in the third game. This part of my post might belong in third game spec thread but if it is true that they are the shadow triad, then it has to be revealed at some point in the game and I think that'd be a really interesting plot point - those people that we always thought were on our side being baddies? What if other gym leaders are bad guys too? I think we might see backstory/more plot development on them in the next game, tbh. They're really strange right now though, especially since we literally know nothing about them at all except that there are three and somehow they can teleport. :( |
rofl I love you, Nica.
I didn't like how they just disappear at the end of the game. It makes the game seem rushed. |
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2. I think that theory may have some sort of backing, but I still think that that theory is too unlikely. It's just so out-of-place. And out-of-character... |
In the end, all the Shadow Triad are is minions of Ghetsis, as they state that they have worked for him for a while, I believe. (I think it was mentioned the very last time you see them, on that bridge east of Nimbasa City) They certainly are a curious lot, seemingly appearing before you at random, though other than how they came to serve Ghetsis, I don't find myself wanting to know much more about them...
As for the Striaton City Gym Leaders theory, I don't bite. At least not officially. There might end up being something similar in the Pokemon Special Manga when that gets into B/W (if it hasn't already; I can see it using those three as the Shadow Triad or something, considering Lt. Surge and Sabrina were a part of Team Rocket in the RBY chapters) Other than that, it does seem a little out of character, as has been said; none of them seem like the type to follow an evil organisation. |
1. The Shadow Triad are okay. It's good to see ninjas every once in a while, and it'd be also nice if they had some sort of backstory.
2. I'm one of those people who's suspicious about the Shadow Triad = Striaton Gym leaders theory. I don't see proof about that. |
[:] Do you like the shadow triad? Would've you preferred if they had some sort of storyline themselves? Or do you find them creepy? :(
No no no no no no no no no. :x I tell you they're out for my soul! But to be honest, I do find them creepy. They have humpbacks and walk like ghosts. n___n [:] How do you feel about the shadow triad = cilan, cress and chili theory? Do you think it's likely - if so, do you have reasoning to back that up or are you one of those who thinks it's a stupid and unlikely theory? I think it's a pretty funny theory. Though I give props to whoever thought of the idea; it's a very creative theory. It can be logical to those with imaginative minds too, since the Striation Gym Leaders didn't show up when all of them appeared to stop Ghetsis/N. ;D Though for me, I'm sort of half and half on the theory. We'd see how far it goes with a third game though! |
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They're not the three Gym leaders.
Think about it for a minute. There's seven sages, and there were more than enough Gym Leaders without those three to keep them occupied while the player is off going to find N etc. The three most inexperienced trainers showing up as well wouldn't have been needed for the scene. But what's much more important and probably why they're not here the Striaton City Gym Leaders do not have anything to do with the games' storyline nor have they ever been seen in confrontation with Team Plasma. They've never been used in the game so far so it'd be strange for them to suddenly come back when the only time you see them was at the start of the game after Plasma had already come and gone. Conversely, every other Gym Leader pops up somewhere else than their gym, even if they don't battle Team Plasma directly: Lenora: ***** took my skull Plasma stole something of hers from the museum and she's involved with going after them, not to mention she gives you the Dark/Light stone towards the end of the game. Burgh: You first meet him while chasing Team Plasma members who stole Bianca's Munna. Elesa: Pops up like five times to do important stuff and introduce you to new characters, even if she doesn't directly fight Team Plasma. Clay: Tells you to find the Plasma members hiding in the Cold Storage, then comes to beat up arrest them once you're finished. Also pops up later to clear a roadblock. Skyla: Does some stuff in the Celestial Tower before you battle her. Brycen: Tells you to get your ass to Mars Dragonspiral Tower and beats some Plasma grunts up while you're busy getting to the top. Drayden/Iris: Tell you a bunch of stuff about Reshiram/Zekrom and Iris shows up earlier in the Castelia City scene The Striaton City guys are the only leaders without any other purpose in the game than to show the player how Gym Battles work at the start of the game. There's not a single hint as to the identity of the Shadow Triad - thinking that the three leaders are actually the Shadow Triad is jumping to a weird conclusion just because they're three people and they didn't re-appear for no reason at the end of the game. |
1. Do you like the Shadow Triad?
Yes, actually. I've always liked ninja-like characters and things relating to darkness. And teleporting is awesome! <) However, I do wish they had more of a storyline instead of "oh hai we r here becuz wei can b and 'cuz Ghetsis told us 2". Perhaps some reasoning behind their motives? 2. How do you feel about the Shadow Triad=Cilan, Cress, and Chili theory? I don't believe it to be true. For starters, they are out of character. Not to mention: How the Gym Trio would come across the Dragon Trio's Orbs? |
1. Do you like the shadow triad? Would've you preferred if they had some sort of storyline themselves? Or do you find them creepy? :(
I loved those guys. They were pretty cool, and ninja like :3 2. How do you feel about the shadow triad = cilan, cress and chili theory? Do you think it's likely - if so, do you have reasoning to back that up or are you one of those who thinks it's a stupid and unlikely theory? Never heard about this until now, but its highly unlikely that they would be cilan cress or chili. |
1. I thought they were really cool, I was curious who they were..
2. N'ah don't think so, that would be so stupid ;/ |
1) Hell yeah! I need to get myself some of them ninjas. Don't really mind that they are cloaked with mystery literally and as far as their story goes.
2) The possibility exists and it's always good to be open minded. |
1. Do you like the shadow triad? Would've you preferred if they had some sort of storyline themselves? Or do you find them creepy? :(
At the end they're good when they give you the orbs. 2. How do you feel about the shadow triad = cilan, cress and chili theory? Do you think it's likely - if so, do you have reasoning to back that up or are you one of those who thinks it's a stupid and unlikely theory? Nah. |
I kinda of like but they scare me when they appear. However it would be great to battle them all in like a triple battle. It would really be fun.
About the theory. It would have been better if the leaders were kinda of mysterious and gave slight hints. But they do even seem evil. However they didnt come to the events at N castle or be affected by team plasma. Maybe in the third game we will learn more. hopefully |
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1. Do you like the shadow triad? Would've you preferred if they had some sort of storyline themselves? Or do you find them creepy?
Yus, they are very awesomesauce :3 It would be even more awesomesauce if they did have more of a story. 2. How do you feel about the shadow triad = cilan, cress and chili theory? Do you think it's likely - if so, do you have reasoning to back that up or are you one of those who thinks it's a stupid and unlikely theory? No. Just no. I think this theory is absolutely ridiculous. It's incredibly stupid, they have nothing in common except for the fact that there is three of them. And if it turned out to be true, I would immediately despise Gamefreak for making it so. |
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1. Yes, I like the Triad. First off, they're very ninja-ish. Not to mention, they're wearing black. Just awesome. Also, their own story would be cool. Especially if you could battle them.
2. No, I don't believe they could possibly be the first gym leaders. Although when I think about it they were the only ones not to appear to help you fight the sages. :paranoid: |
1. The Shadow Triad were cool, as all ninjas are. Still it would be nice to see more backstory to them, like their reasons for following Ghetsis besides some vague "He saved our lives long ago"... I'd like to know the circumstances behind that, for instance.
2. I can't say for sure, but I'm erring on the side of no. Neither the Shadow Triad or the Striation Gym trio were developed enough for me to even try to say if they were one and the same. |
I really liked their whole schtick, and Ghetsis aside they were probably the most menacing characters in the game, even while they were just shuffling you from one room to another. They needed more love, heck, all of Team Plasma's important members needed more than what they got. Concordia and what's-her-face? Hopefully they'll get into that when the next game releases.
Eh, don't really buy the Triaton leaders theory. Possible, but undetermined. |
Just to be crazy, I think the Shadow Triad are the Nuvema Town trio (i.e Black/White, Bianca and Cheren) from the future. I mean it'd explain the random appearances etc. Or they could be involved in a later game, perhaps?
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At the end of the game, talk to them, one of them says they couldn't get to the bit where all the gym leaders appear. SO it makes it suspicious |
I never thought of the triad to be the gym leaders of Striaton City. I wish you fought them, though. Oh and Spherical Ice's theory sounds good, but why would they side with Ghestis?
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I waited the battle against the Shadow Triad, that would have been great.
And on the theory of the leaders of Striaton City, I am quite sure that they are the Shadow Triad, none of the first gym leader from the previous games has been, let us say, rare as these three characters. That makes me suspicious ... |
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MY opinion
1. I think there awsome.
2. I think that the Striaton City gym leader theory is legit because the First time you reall battle team plasma (excluding your battle with N) is in Striaton City. 1. I think there awsome. 2. I think that the Striaton City gym leader theory is legit because the First time you reall battle team plasma (excluding your battle with N) is in Striaton City. |
I liked them. They were unimportant, and their missions were very trivial, but, it was nice to be genuinely surprised and a tad bit startled when they appeared out of the blue and quickly pushed you to a desired location.
Great minions, but, sadly put in a role which they could've easily been replaced by normal, generic grunts. I'd like to see more development in a future installment. Maybe the sister game to Black and White will add some well-deserved juice to their stories and roles? Only Nintendo knows. The Cilan, Cress, and Chili theory seems a bit farfetched and arbitrarily made. "DUDE, THERE'S, LIKE, THREE OF THEM, AND LIKE; THERE'S THREE OF THE OTHER GUYS. MUST BE THE SAME PEOPLE! OH MY WOOOORRRRDDDD!" But it must make great fan-fiction material. |
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Cress, Cilan + Chili = Shadow Triad. :3 Do you like the shadow triad? Would've you preferred if they had some sort of storyline themselves? Or do you find them creepy? :( I like them but their clothes and designs are so creepy. ;< -shivers- |
1. I really did like the Shadow Triad. It is indeed creepy-- which is why I like it so much! Gah whenever they popped up, I'd just be like "WTF?". I would have indeed preferred somewhat- even the tiniest- of a storyline for them, or any kind of background nformation.
2. I really like that theory because of what happened at the end of the game. Cilan and Cress and Chili really gave off this bad vibe for me. I didn't like how we barely engaged in anything with either one of them. But it's just a weird hunch. I honestly don't know. I really like the Shadow Triad. I actually wanted to be one of them D; |
they seemed like absolute story-fillers to me.
I never thought of relating them to those 3 gym leaders, they are just not related in any way! except the number =o |
Well at least they are much better then team Rocket in previous generations :P
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I like them the entire time i wanted a backstory but the their is NO WAY its cilian, ect just no way..... is there?
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the first three Gym Leaders weren't included because there are only six sages that were there at the time
so seven Gym Leaders would be MORE then enough if you go to the Striaton Gym post game, they'll also be nervous because they didn't think they were strong enough to begin with so...they would've been in the way |
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I think it would be a awesome twist if they were the three gym leaders...it would certainly surprise the trio's fan girls :P |
Dude i thought of something, Cilan, Chili, and Cress where to only gym leaders you never see fight team plasma while every other one had some issue with them, and there the gym leaders that didn't fight the 7 sages and if you talk to Cilan after beating the game he says "In the unova region, um, we are still novice gym leaders." Notice the um he is hesitant. oh man im good :3
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lol, at the Shadow Triad = Striation Gym Leader theory
http://www.pokecharms.com/games/images/3/32/DarkTrinity.png The Shadow Triad is just creepy. I don't know if I mentioned it before, but they're practically creepers - jumping out at you at random times. ): Though I do agree with Clyde by their roles being story fillers. The triad are like helpers for Ghetsis; other than that, I don't see them as anything else...like gym leaders. :B |
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*Uhh...... Cilan was hesitant every time you talked to him, even when you challenged the gym. (Yet he is not hesitant at all in the anime =/) It's just Cilan, not him worrying about how you might find out that him and his brothers are epic ninjas that appear all over the world while still being in their city at the same time :P' ...I suddenly have a horrible feeling that the theory is true... and I don't know why =/ |
Well...I have an alternate theory...the shadow triad are Mars, Jupiter and Cyrus! (Cyrus reduced to a shadow of his former self).
We all know Black / White are set chronologically after the events of Platinum. In Platinum, Cyrus disappeared into the Distortion World. Then, at Stark Mountain, Jupiter and Mars both say they're going to the Distortion World. What if something happened to them in there? I'm pretty sure that Ghetsis is alleged to have saved the Shadow Triad's lives...it would also fit with how they ended up with the three orbs, if they're from Sinnoh. I know this is going out on a limb, and would really struggle to fit into Pokémon Adventures (Which follows an incredible amount of the games' canon, yet hasn't had them disappear yet). But still, possible, right? |
First; yes, I liked the Shadow Triad. I think. Ninjas randomly appearing out of nowhere as anonymous henchmen of an evil maniac. Sure, the idea is appealing, although yes, a background story for them would be pretty cool.
And wow. I never, ever even as much as thought about the idea of the Shadow Triad being the Striaton Gym Leaders. But I see the appeal, and my imagination is probably already convinced, hahah. But yeah - them not showing up at the final battle and whatnot. Someone pointed out that the theory is unlikely because they - unlike the other gym leaders - don't interact with you at all throughout the game, except when you kick their asses. This, however, I find to be a good reason why the theory might be legit. They don't have time to interact with and help some silly kid, when they're busy doing stuff for Ghetsis! Especially not when the silly kid in question is not exactly working to accomplish the same goals as Ghetsis. I dunno. It still seems unlikely... Or, well, if you want to believe it, it does sound very likely. And I do want to believe it, it'd be friggen' awesome. |
1. Do you like the shadow triad? Would've you preferred if they had some sort of storyline themselves? Or do you find them creepy? :(
I love them soo much. Its a great idea that the evil guy has a super elite team of supernaturals working for him. And i would love some backstory. I think there will be some in the third game (if it's ever made :( ) 2. How do you feel about the shadow triad = cilan, cress and chili theory? Do you think it's likely - if so, do you have reasoning to back that up or are you one of those who thinks it's a stupid and unlikely theory? Uhhmm,k that seems interesting. I think its possible. I mean think about it. This is the first time there is a gym with three gym leaders, and it corresponds with there being an evil triad ? It sounds very possible !! |
lol at what i just thought of.
Shadow Triad could be Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. Cyrus is unheard of after Distortion World, maybe those three felt the need to be led by someone else and they chose Ghetsis. Also, time gap from DP to BW (4 years). Plenty of time to join and get to the level the Shadow Triad is. |
The members of the shadow triad do not follow the speech styles of Chili, Cress, and Cilan; they speak more toned-down, awkwardly, and confidently.
I do not believe that they are the same. I recorded the text of the shadow triad at Marvelous Bridge. If any of you are interested in having it, message me. I'll get back to you... eventually. Quote:
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1. Do you like the shadow triad? Would've you preferred if they had some sort of storyline themselves? Or do you find them creepy? :(
Well at first, I thought that they were annoying and creepy but after a while I started liking them. It's cool that they do not have a storyline I guess 2. How do you feel about the shadow triad = cilan, cress and chili theory? Do you think it's likely - if so, do you have reasoning to back that up or are you one of those who thinks it's a stupid and unlikely theory? Well I think that it would be pretty cool if Cilan, Cress and Chili were the shadow traid :t354:TG |
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I was waiting for a Triple Battle or a Rotation Battle with the Shadow Triad... obviously it never came.
Also, [SPOILER ALERT] in N's Castle, when the Gym Leaders come, did anyone else notice that Cilan, Chili, and Cress were not there? |
I believe that the Shadow Triad could be the Striaton Gym leaders based on what is written in the manga. In the manga, the Triad are not referred to by name, but by the masks they wear. The masks they wear are named after the elemental monkeys, which just so happen to be the main pokemon of the Striaton Gym leaders. I highly doubt this is a coincidence.
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