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Oryx June 1st, 2011 8:52 PM

Have you caught -- oh that's right, you can't.
 
Version Exclusives

We all know that there are plenty of Pokemon that can only be obtained in White, or in Black, but not in both. These version exclusives have their ups and downs, making it impossible to complete the local Pokedex on your own, but also making for some interesting differences between versions. They also share many similarities, such as Vullaby vs. Rufflet and Solosis vs. Gothita.

Discuss:
-How version exclusives affected or did not affect the version you chose
-Whether or not one version has an advantage over the other due to exclusives
-The benefits of having version exclusives, and whether all new Pokemon should be catchable in both games


For reference, here are the exclusives in each game:

White
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/6/69/010MS.png Caterpie
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/ce/011MS.png Metapod
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/14/012MS.png Butterfree
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/7a/046MS.png Paras
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/41/047MS.png Parasect
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/89/200MS.png Misdreavus
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/5c/261MS.png Poochyena
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/4d/262MS.png Mightyena
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/94/312MS.png Minun
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/41/314MS.png Illumise
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/47/429MS.png Mismagius
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/7e/577MS.png Solosis
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/6/64/578MS.png Duosion
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/77/579MS.png Reuniclus
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e5/627MS.png Rufflet
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/54/628MS.png Braviary
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/b4/642MS.png Thundurus
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/b2/644MS.png Zekrom
Black
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/6/65/013MS.png Weedle
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/81/014MS.png Kakuna
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/5a/015MS.png Beedrill
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/71/198MS.png Murkrow
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/3b/228MS.png Houndour
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/6/6b/229MS.png Houndoom
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/8/8e/285MS.png Shroomish
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/ed/286MS.png Breloom
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e7/311MS.png Plusle
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/c0/430MS.png Honchkrow
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/5/57/574MS.png Gothita
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/75/575MS.png Gothorita
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/b/be/576MS.png Gothitelle
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/2/2f/629MS.png Vullaby
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/f/f7/630MS.png Mandibuzz
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/1/13/641MS.png Tornadus
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/03/643MS.png Reshiram

Ho-Oh June 1st, 2011 9:07 PM

Personally, I think White has the best Pokemon exclusives, though it isn't why I chose the version I did (since I got both but White is my main). I noticed though, that most of White's exclusives line up the exclusives of my past games, so it kinda works out.

Though I do think Basculin should be exclusive to each version and not just "rare", same for Sawk/Throh. Disappointed when I found that out. :(

Almost Me June 2nd, 2011 2:19 AM

I'm not sure. White has Solosis, while black can get Shroomish, and therefore Breloom.

It's a tough choice, but I think I'd have to say white. Solosis and its family are so much cooler than Gothita and co.

PlatinumDude June 2nd, 2011 2:52 AM

As much as I wanted to play White first due to its "better" version exclusives, I went with Black instead because of Reshiram.

Vrai June 2nd, 2011 3:16 AM

I love all of Black's exclusives (except Gothitelle line sorry sorry) but I would love to have Thundurus and Reuniclus if I could. Those are the two big ones from White that I wasn't able to get myself cos I had Black. >:O

I think that if they indeed made all Pokemon catchable in the next generation, they'll need to do a lot of varying with rarity levels. Like, it should be possible to catch everything on your own should you want to but it'd be much much easier if you were to trade between the versions. Things that are rare in one game would be common in the other etc and promote a lot of trading. :B

RYOUKI June 2nd, 2011 8:02 AM

-How version exclusives affected or did not affect the version you chose.
Yes, I'm supposed to get Black but White has a better Pokemon so I went for White instead.
-Whether or not one version has an advantage over the other due to exclusives
As I said, frankly, I think White exclusives are better. Plus, it has more version exclusive (Including White Forest)... so...

Alternative June 2nd, 2011 8:11 AM

I would have originally gotten White purely for Petilil and Lilligant, but I also wanted Black for Reshiram, so I got that one instead. I now have realised that Cottonee is at par with them, and even though White has Reuniclus and that family, Black yields Sawk primarily, as well as Volbeat, Shroomish and Vullaby/Mandibuzz, which I think personally are better than their White version counterparts. :)

Frostweaver June 2nd, 2011 8:18 AM

Can't you just trade a Cottonee for Petilil anyway? So those aren't exactly version exclusives...

rustymenon June 2nd, 2011 8:18 AM

Actually, according to me version exclusives SHOULDN'T be there, because people like me, in countries like India, don't get access to the Wi-Fi from the DS, plus, there isn't any support and Pokemon people playing here.

Almondeyes June 2nd, 2011 8:18 AM

For the most part White has the best version exclusives, but I went for Black instead for Reshiram. I was so proud when I finally caught it :3

mikey June 2nd, 2011 8:25 AM

I actually purchased White for Zekrom xD I was also happy to find out that all of White's exclusives are actually pretty good, some of which are my favorites. Reuniclus and Braviary = awesomeness :3

Cresselia* June 2nd, 2011 8:34 AM

I wanted Mismagius and Solosis sooo bad, but bought Black because of Gothitelle D: I'm still happy w/ Black but I want to know how White Forrest is.. D:

Gothitelle. June 2nd, 2011 8:35 AM

About that... it seems like the White exclusives are getting better treatment than the Black exclusives. Makes me sad tho because I am currently playing white but I hate hate hate Renuclus because it's too perfect and gets special treatment while they treat their other like a POS. They spent more time on that Pokemon then they did making Gothitelle just as good as everyone else.

Vrai June 2nd, 2011 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustymenon (Post 6673127)
Actually, according to me version exclusives SHOULDN'T be there, because people like me, in countries like India, don't get access to the Wi-Fi from the DS, plus, there isn't any support and Pokemon people playing here.

I think that's the idea behind version exclusives - you have to have people that have either version. And the people who can't find someone with the other version will probably have to go buy it if they want to get them. REMEMBER CHILDREN, MONEY IS EVERYTHING. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frostweaver (Post 6673126)
Can't you just trade a Cottonee for Petilil anyway? So those aren't exactly version exclusives...

They're still unobtainable in the wild in opposite games which "technically" makes them exclusives. :c

Katja June 2nd, 2011 11:13 AM

I think both of them have good exclusives, but I picked white because...of the forest I guess.

rustymenon June 2nd, 2011 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrai (Post 6673316)
I think that's the idea behind version exclusives - you have to have people that have either version. And the people who can't find someone with the other version will probably have to go buy it if they want to get them. REMEMBER CHILDREN, MONEY IS EVERYTHING. :(

Lol, but really, after buying the second game, I get the version exclusives, but to trade them I'll still need another DS. Which, btw, is pretty rare here.

Dawnfox June 2nd, 2011 1:43 PM

I would think White has better exclusives, Mightyena and Braviary are pretty good, and Butterfree is pretty cool.

Lee Know June 2nd, 2011 3:18 PM

lmao, I prefer Black exclusives over White, just because Reshiram is damn sexy, Gothitelle is a tank, Beedrill over Butterfree anyday, Whimsicott can destroy Lilligant, and Mandibuzz has access to Dark Pulse without breeding.

Oh, and, first pure Flying-type ever. Suck it.

Golden Warrior June 2nd, 2011 3:28 PM

Well, I mainly got White for Zekrom (HE'S BLACK, OH YES!). But, I agree with ohsoRANDOM, the Black exclusives are better (Except for Zekrom :P).

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 2nd, 2011 3:36 PM

Both of them are equally awesome...there are some such as Mardibuzz and Murkrow that I would like to have seen in white...though thankfully one can get around it if they can go to the dream world ^_^.

Lee Know June 2nd, 2011 3:42 PM

lmao, I'll take Honchkrow over Mismagius anyday.

Gothitelle. June 2nd, 2011 5:37 PM

But but Mismagius is adorable D:

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/41/Mismagius_anime.png

i was sad that it was a white exclusive. Now that i have white i can catch one and maybe replace Giratina or Simipour.

I got Black because of Gothitelle because she was cute and adorable.

Pokemon Trainer Touko June 2nd, 2011 11:52 PM

I think both of them have equally good exclusives, that's one of the reasons why I got both Pokémon Black and White.

Neptune Vasilias June 3rd, 2011 12:00 AM

I plan on getting Black for Reshiram even though I so wanted Reuniclus and Braviary (till I found out they were in White, I was so depressed :<). According to Smogon, Reshiram is currently the best Uber in the metagame (being able to 2HKO Choice Kyogre and other tankers) so I'll be getting it and topple Unova with it! XD

But I found out that Gothitelle is a blocking rocker while helping my friend train it and I helped him beat Shauntal's first 2 Pokemon with it and put up a good fight before it was down cos I forgot to heal it XD

Mandibuzz isn't that bad, I just find it quite ugly for a female vulture. :P I heard that one can receive Petilil somehow so that doesn't worry me. I don't really care for the previous generation Pokemon since I can just migrate them over. :)

Kevin June 3rd, 2011 3:38 AM

I got Black because of Reshiram; I don't care about any of the other Pokemon since I wasn't going to use them anyway. The only Pokemon from White I needed was Reuniclus, which I obtained from the GTS.


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