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rstevenson1976 June 5th, 2011 4:32 PM

If Munna's sprite floats, why is its ability not levitate?
 
is there any other pokemon that you feel doesn't have the right ability?
name it and tell us what it should be and why

jmd34 June 5th, 2011 4:48 PM

Eelektross that has levitate and doesn't float (though it makes it a BEAST haha )
Also , mostly every ghost are floating in their sprites , and not all of them have levitate ^^' Only ghost that I think shouldn't have levitate is Golurk,Arceus Ghost form,Spiritomb and dusclops

Alternative June 5th, 2011 5:19 PM

Well, moves such as Earth Power and such aren't just on the ground. Have you ever noticed with say, the animation of Earth Power that there are like, geysers or jetstreams of the earth coming up from the ground? That's probably why ground moves can hit them.

Gymnotide June 5th, 2011 5:39 PM

When you use Earthquake, you don't just shake the earth. That won't damage anything.

What you do is you TEAR THE GROUND ASUNDER AND CAUSE TECTONIC PLATES TO RISE UP INTO THE AIR AND EXPLODE INTO DEATH-INFLICTING SHRAPNEL. That's why it can hit floating Pokemon. Pokemon with Levitate can float higher. ^^

Ho-Oh June 5th, 2011 6:39 PM

Apparently the thread creator doesn't want the title discussed, though personally, I think it creates more discussion, so meh. From now on I guess just post about the Pokemon that have "wrong" abilities in your view. Though you are free to discuss each other's posts.

Either way, we'll see how this goes in B/W and if it ends up broadening to other Pokemon, then PGC can have it.

Anyway, Emboar should have Sturdy. I don't care that it's a starter - look at the way it's built, it's almost screaming for Sturdy. D<

deoxys121 June 5th, 2011 7:04 PM

Volcarona should have Levitate. Plain and simple. Why? Look below.
http://www.pokestadium.com/pokemon/sprites/handheld/blackwhite/animated/637.gif
Also, he can learn Fly. Therefore, Levitate would be a perfect ability. The same applies to Beedrill.

Rooke June 5th, 2011 11:14 PM

Rotom's fan Forme shouldn't have Levitate. I still wouldn't use it, but it always annoyed me that it has both Levitate and a Flying typing.

I should give it the Air Balloon item just to make sure it doesn't have a Ground-type weakness. ¬_¬

Oryx June 5th, 2011 11:23 PM

Guts and Sturdy should be switched around on Sawk and Throh. I mean, Guts raises Attack, which would be logical for Sawk, and Sturdy is for tough, defensive Pokemon like Throh. Idk why they are the way they are. ;_; I also don't understand Overcoat for Vullaby/Mandibuzz. They're birds, they fly. In the air. Where weather happens. How can they not be affected by it?

Gymnotide June 6th, 2011 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toujours (Post 6679796)
Guts and Sturdy should be switched around on Sawk and Throh. I mean, Guts raises Attack, which would be logical for Sawk, and Sturdy is for tough, defensive Pokemon like Throh. Idk why they are the way they are. ;_; I also don't understand Overcoat for Vullaby/Mandibuzz. They're birds, they fly. In the air. Where weather happens. How can they not be affected by it?

Vullaby and Mandibuzz are designed after vultures. Vultures stereotypically live in the desert, where sandstorms occur. Sandstorm, in-game, is a damaging weather effect... However, none of the other Abilities that prevent Sandstorm-based damage are really fitting. Sand Veil doesn't really make sense. Sand Power, not really... Et cetera.

Sarcastic Prince June 6th, 2011 1:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rstevenson1976 (Post 6679199)
is there any other pokemon that you feel doesn't have the right ability?
name it and tell us what it should be and why

You wanna know the answer?
It right below:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 6679366)
When you use Earthquake, you don't just shake the earth. That won't damage anything.

What you do is you TEAR THE GROUND ASUNDER AND CAUSE TECTONIC PLATES TO RISE UP INTO THE AIR AND EXPLODE INTO DEATH-INFLICTING SHRAPNEL. That's why it can hit floating Pokemon. Pokemon with Levitate can float higher. ^^

Exactly. That's why it can hit floating PKMN. However, I do think
that Beedrill, Volcarona, Venomoth and Dustox should have Levitate.
They have wings. And their animated sprites in Black and White
briefly suggests that shouldn't be hit with any Ground type moves at all.

PlatinumDude June 6th, 2011 1:28 AM

How do Golett and Golurk look like Klutzes? Not only is that ability useless on them, I don't see how they're Klutzes. I think that their DW ability, No Guard should have been their secondary ability.

Sarcastic Prince June 6th, 2011 4:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 6679902)
How do Golett and Golurk look like Klutzes? Not only is that ability useless on them, I don't see how they're Klutzes. I think that their DW ability, No Guard should have been their secondary ability.

Yeah, they don't even look like klutzes.
In fact, they are far from being similar to a klutz.

Oryx June 6th, 2011 5:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarcastic Prince (Post 6680066)
Yeah. They're standing on the ground. I don't see how they're levitating.

He didn't even say the word levitate in his post whatsoever...

ElectricScyther June 6th, 2011 5:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toujours (Post 6679796)
Guts and Sturdy should be switched around on Sawk and Throh. I mean, Guts raises Attack, which would be logical for Sawk, and Sturdy is for tough, defensive Pokemon like Throh. Idk why they are the way they are. ;_;

I could see that as a mechanism for balancing those two out.

Gothitelle. June 6th, 2011 6:00 AM

Gothitelle with Inner Focus, Defiant, Sturdy, Moxie or Guts = <333

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ June 6th, 2011 8:03 AM

The fact that Vullaby and Mandibuzz is a half dark blows my mind, it should have been a Normal/Flying type like their counter-partners but this is a ability thread so I have to agree with Eelektross having Levitate, it just makes no sense (what a waste of an ability)


:t354:TG

Volroc June 6th, 2011 8:20 AM

i think overgrow & its counter parts on the beginners is a waste of good ideas& space that could be made, I.E. Snivy & its dream world ability... wouldve been so much better without overgrow & just contrary wouldve been fine

Torchic with speed boost? HELL YES!

i mean seriously no thick fat piplups? what kind of world do we live in when every other pokemon gets great abilities (usually) and the beginners get complete ****.

Xetharo June 6th, 2011 8:20 AM

the one that really bugs me is Magnezone...he's obviously floating using his magnets or w/e...but doesn't have levitate...he learn's magnet rise to get around that, but still! he's already floating...he should already have levitate

Gymnotide June 6th, 2011 9:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ (Post 6680287)
The fact that Vullaby and Mandibuzz is a half dark blows my mind, it should have been a Normal/Flying type like their counter-partners but this is a ability thread so I have to agree with Eelektross having Levitate, it just makes no sense (what a waste of an ability)


:t354:TG

It's a vulture. That more than warrants it for being half dark type.
And Eelektross' Levitate is 80% of what gives it its uniqueness, even if it doesn't make sense.

ShinyZoruaGirl June 6th, 2011 9:53 AM

I think Mew should have Levitate. I mean, come on. You see it in the movies, am I correct? Its feet never touch the ground. It just bugs me.

Gothitelle. June 6th, 2011 10:18 AM

Oh and also Gothitelle should also be able to have Intimidate and Magic Guard.

Almost Me June 6th, 2011 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 6679902)
How do Golett and Golurk look like Klutzes? Not only is that ability useless on them, I don't see how they're Klutzes. I think that their DW ability, No Guard should have been their secondary ability.

I think it's a reference to the fact that Golems are mythical creatures of Jewish origin, while Klutz I believe is a Jewish word.

Gymnotide June 6th, 2011 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almost Me (Post 6680512)
I think it's a reference to the fact that Golems are mythical creatures of Jewish origin, while Klutz I believe is a Jewish word.

The Japanese name for Klutz was "Clumsy." Regardless, the Yiddish slang term "klots" comes from German anyway.

Let's also discuss Kling, Klang, and Klinklang's obnoxious ability to learn Electric-type attacks (even the mostly Electric-type exclusive Volt Switch) without actually being Electric-type. He doesn't get Levitate, or even Motor Drive, which would make tons more sense. Hell, even Skill Link would have been a better choice than Plus / Minus. Also, now that Plus / Minus are the SAME ABILITY in Generation V, there is NO POINT in having both on the same Pokemon. Klinklang isn't a magnet, it's a gear. Get it straight.

Though, maybe Plus / Minus are the gears' genders, 'cause they're genderless Pokemon ;)

edit Also give Solrock Solar Power and Meteor Mash ffs and Lunatone Magic Guard and Wish. Is this too much to ask?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 6th, 2011 4:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6679474)
Apparently the thread creator doesn't want the title discussed, though personally, I think it creates more discussion, so meh. From now on I guess just post about the Pokemon that have "wrong" abilities in your view. Though you are free to discuss each other's posts.

Either way, we'll see how this goes in B/W and if it ends up broadening to other Pokemon, then PGC can have it.

Anyway, Emboar should have Sturdy. I don't care that it's a starter - look at the way it's built, it's almost screaming for Sturdy. D<

They should at least have made it's dream world ability Sturdy...but the two abilities it does have fit nicely...it just needs a third...

Sarcastic Prince June 6th, 2011 4:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ (Post 6680287)
but this is a ability thread so I have to agree with Eelektross having Levitate, it just makes no sense (what a waste of an ability)
:t354:TG

Can you care to explain why it doesn't make any sense?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Xetharo (Post 6680308)
the one that really bugs me is Magnezone...he's obviously floating using his magnets or w/e...but doesn't have levitate...he learn's magnet rise to get around that, but still! he's already floating...he should already have levitate

Like Gymnotide said earlier, the move Earthquake doesn't just shake the ground. What it does is:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gymnotide
What you do is you TEAR THE GROUND ASUNDER AND CAUSE TECTONIC PLATES TO RISE UP INTO THE AIR AND EXPLODE INTO DEATH-INFLICTING SHRAPNEL. That's why it can hit floating Pokemon. Pokemon with Levitate can float higher. ^

Got that memorized? Also, Magnezone and Electrode's family
"float" by using electricity. It is only normal that they get hit
by the move, Earthquake.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 6680742)
The Japanese name for Klutz was "Clumsy." Regardless, the Yiddish slang term "klots" comes from German anyway.

Let's also discuss Kling, Klang, and Klinklang's obnoxious ability to learn Electric-type attacks (even the mostly Electric-type exclusive Volt Switch) without actually being Electric-type. He doesn't get Levitate, or even Motor Drive, which would make tons more sense. Hell, even Skill Link would have been a better choice than Plus / Minus. Also, now that Plus / Minus are the SAME ABILITY in Generation V, there is NO POINT in having both on the same Pokemon. Klinklang isn't a magnet, it's a gear. Get it straight.

Though, maybe Plus / Minus are the gears' genders, 'cause they're genderless Pokemon ;)

edit Also give Solrock Solar Power and Meteor Mash ffs and Lunatone Magic Guard and Wish. Is this too much to ask?

Nope, it's not too much to ask.
And what's so strange about the Klinklang family
being able to learn Electric type moves?
I mean, look at their appearances. Their looks tell me
that learning Electric type moves is possible for them.

That's just like asking, why do Gyarados, Weezing or even small
dogs like Lillipup is capable of learning Thunderbolt?


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