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Virizion moveset anyone?
I wonder if anyone have a good moveset for Virizion. I'm thinking of a Timid Virizion with a Focus Blast. But the the problem is, Focus Blast has a low accuracy and I can't really hit someone when I'm in a need to use it.
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Well if Focus Blasts accuracy worries you, you could try a physical build. It has some advantages over the special build;
1. Swords Dance lets Virizion set up twice as fast as Calm Mind. 2. Close Combat has higher accuracy. 3. Sacred Sword avoids stat changes. 4. Better Grass STAB in the form of Leaf Blade, I believe. So something like- Jolly Virizion @ Life Orb/Leftovers 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe -Close Combat -Leaf Blade -Stone Edge -Swords Dance Stone Edge also lets you hit Flying and Bug types that resist both your STABs, and lets you hit Fire types. Hope this helps. |
Virizion can also use Hidden Power Ice instead of Stone Edge on the set mentioned so it can hit Gliscor harder.
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Maybe dual screens could work
Bold nature EV's 148 HP 252 defense 100 sp. defense 8 sp.attack Light screen Reflect Toxic/HP ice/HP rock/HP ghost giga drain with light clay I dunno it it would be any good i never used and probably never will use it |
Any Ideas for an Ice Type Team?
I'm planning to use Abomasnow for Snow Warning, holding a Focus Sash. I also got Glaceon, Walrein, and Frosslass. I'm thinking about putting Weavile. But I'm missing a Frost Rotom and a Articuno. I don't have them at my Pokedex. Should I try GTS negotiations?
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This seems to be more in the planning stage. It certainly doesn't warrant its own thread because there is basically nothing for raters to work with. The Simple Q&A sticky is your best bet for requests like this, so I'll move it there.
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Hey guys,
Me and my friends recently pulled out our old GBA's and started an adventure on red/blue with the intention to get to a desired level and battle. We added a twist, this being that we randomly generate one pokemon that we have to use in the battle. Unfortunatly i ended up with 'Muk'. Though by far not the worst Pokemon, i am aware of his massive type weaknesses and his shoddy movepool. I am further restricted by the lack of tms in this game (without gameshark) body slam, Mega drain(i think its called) and thunderbolt are already taken by more important members of my squad such as Snorlax, Chansey and Exeggutor to name a few. I so far have the current moveset in mind for him based on my restrictions: -Explosion -Sludge - (insert here) - (insert here) I would appreciate any advice as to what moves/strategy i could use to fill the 2 spots left. |
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Sadly Muk is aot better in GSC, Curse Muk was/is so cool. ;; Anyway, your best bet; Muk - Explosion - Sludge - Body Slam - Screech / Mega Drain / Thunder Explosion and Sludge are a given. Body Slam is pretty awesome for paralysis and wins games in RBY. It also cripples common switch ins. Last slot is up to you, Screech can help you do more damage and possibly spread paralysis around their team by causing switches. Mega Drain is your only option vs Golem and Rhydon, dont expect it to do much outside of that and lastly Thunder can hit Slowbro and Starmie for ok damage. Plus it actually lets you touch Gengar who totally walls you otherwise. Other than that your best bet in the last slot is a filler like Hyper Beam or Mimic. :/ |
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Sludge Explosion Thunder Screech/Mimic/Hyper Beam (desperate selection but i doubt i will use any of them) |
I seriously just can't stand it anymore!!!
Okay, I just now played 5 consecutive battles without stopping. Online play on my DS White version. I LOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
Why? DRAGONITE. ALL 5 BATTLES I JUST PARTICIPATED IN ALL RAN A DRAGONITE, WHICH PROCEEDED TO RAPE MY TEAM UNMERCIFULLY. Dragonite is the bane of my competitive pokemon existence. I can't stand that Dragon S.O.B., It's driving me nuts, even when I try to take it down with the stereotypical Ice Beam/Ice Punch, sure enough it still enjoys completely destroying me. So I MUST know, what is the ultimate Dragonite Killer? What pokemon can I bring out on the field in a hurry and destroy a Dragonite without worrying about being 1HKO'ed by the jerk? On a side note: I now officially honor Dragonite with the title: "Most Rage Hated Pokemon." I'm thinking of running a Weaville but not sure, I want something capable of embarrassing a Dragonite, that's fast, can take a few hits, and preferably specializes in Special Attack. |
OK, don't be so mean to Dragonites! :( Dragonites are my favorite pokemon in the whole wide world! I love mine so much, and I hate to see someone shoot them down just because they are so totally BAOSS. XP
BUT! If you want a Pokemon that could possibly take down the 2nd greatest non-legendary, try a Lapras. Heck, even raise a Dragonite of your own. Lapras is probably the best ice type around imo. And don't forget Dragons are weak against themselves. Plus a Dragonite can learn ice beam and of course dragon type moves, so it can be a "self killer". Oh, and do you mind telling me the movesets the Dragonites that destroyed you, had? It would be a great help for me since I raise Dragonites and shizz. :D |
I copied this straight from Smogon, I hope it helps:
Dragonite is so versatile that one can forget about finding a surefire counter at the outset. However, fast Ground-types and bulky Steel-types, such as Jirachi, Landorus, and Scizor, are fairly good checks and revenge killers, particularly to the Parashuffler set. The Parashuffler set is also vulnerable to Taunt, which locks Dragonite into Dragon Tail. In general, Dragonite abhors status ailments and residual damage of all sorts. This makes Tyranitar and Hippowdon great assets for combating it, as both have Sand Stream and Stealth Rock to make Multiscale more difficult to use. A few defensive Pokemon deal with Dragonite fairly well. Cresselia is a good check for most Dragonite sets, but it has a hard time with the Parashuffler set unless it can catch it outside of a Substitute, or if Cresselia is the last Pokemon. Hippowdon and Skarmory are good checks to Dragon Dance variants, but they do not deal with other sets so well due to phazing, special attacks, or sheer power. Cloyster and Haxorus deserve special mentions. While it is not advisable for either Pokemon to switch directly into Dragonite, Cloyster can take a physical attack from Dragonite, use Shell Smash, and start a sweep with Icicle Spear, which hits through Multiscale. Haxorus has Mold Breaker and an extremely high 147 base Attack, which means that it will deal very heavy damage to Dragonite with Outrage, ignoring Multiscale. Source: www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/dragonite I think what annoys you the most is Multiscale, my dragonite has it and ice beams and draco meteors won't OHKO it. |
I swear to god, every Dragonite I fought had generally the same build.
Ability: Multiscale Extreme speed <- This killed all of my support pokemon!!! Bah Humbug... Thunder Wave <- THANK YOU FOR THE CONSTANT PARALYSIS. Outrage <- This I didn't have many qualms about. Basic OP attack that goes on repeatedly... Dragon Tail <- DERP... Hope you like Death and Entry Hazards! Now for a couple of them, they may have replaced Dragon Tail or Outrage with something else based on their team build, but I swear to god every single Dragonite seems to have T-Wave and Extreme Speed, which were the main source of my RAGE. I did something for the first time ever. In the middle of my 5th battle AGAINST A DRAGONITE OF COURSE, I Rage Quit so hard that I turned off my DS in the middle of the battle. I normally never do this because I have this sort of warriors pride, if I was defeated, it means you are better than me and deserve that win... but I was so freaking mad after 5 CONSECUTIVE DRAGONITE BATTLES, that I refused to acknowledge the other persons victory and just shut off my DS.(Mind you I didn't turn off my DS once the battle was over. I turned off the DS after having two of my pokemon T-Waved and Extreme Speed/Outrage'd to death. With one pokemon left I couldn't go through with it. So DS went off.) I felt like if another Dragonite murdered me I would have torn out some of my hair or something. Edit: As a side note, can I ask something else. I heard somebody a while ago talk about something called Para-flinching (The concept of what it is seemed obvious based on the name). I had never heard of it at the time but then I started noticing in online play, that when someone T-Waves me, they will start cornering me with Flinch moves and then I can't do anything. So is this a glitch, a hack, or is this just a common pokemon mechanic/tactic? |
Paraflinching is an uncommon tactic used by Togekiss and Jirachi (and Dunsparce and Rotom-S to an extent). I think you're screwed over by that tactic because those opponents have Serene Grace, which doubles the chances of secondary effects happening, flinches included. So when you factor in the 25% chance of full paralysis with the 40-60% chance of flinching (depending on the move), your chances of launching a successful attack have been reduced.
Here are the paraflinching sets that are commonly used: Togekiss: -Thunder Wave/Body Slam -Air Slash -Aura Sphere//Flamethrower/Nasty Plot -Roost Nature: Calm EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef Item: Leftovers Ability: Serene Grace Jirachi -Iron Head -Body Slam/Thunder Wave -Wish -Fire Punch/Protect/Stealth Rock Nature: Careful EVs: 252 HP/224 SDef/32 Spe Item: Leftovers Or -Body Slam/Thunder Wave -Iron Head -Fire Punch -Substitute Nature: Jolly EVs: 80 HP/252 Atk/176 Spe Item: Leftovers I think you can counter (or at least check) Dragonite by having Stealth Rock on the field. That way, it takes damage from it, negating Multiscale, leaving you free to KO it with whatever Ice, Rock or Dragon move you may have. |
There's a simple reason as to why you always seem to battle people using Dragonite - it's the most commonly used Pokèmon in OU at the moment (correct me if I'm wrong). The sets you say you battle against are common because they are good sets - the best it can use - so of course people would use them.
Paraflinching isn't a glitch or anything like that - it's just someone using the chances of a move having a secondary effect to their advantage, and yes, it's unbelievably annoying. There's a simple reason as to why you always seem to battle people using Dragonite - it's the most commonly used Pokèmon in OU at the moment (correct me if I'm wrong). The sets you say you battle against are common because they are good sets - the best it can use - so of course people would use them. Paraflinching isn't a glitch or anything like that - it's just someone using the chances of a move having a secondary effect to their advantage, and yes, it's unbelievably annoying. |
Mix Sp.Def Tyranitar is generally a good check to most Dragonite sets. SS negates Multi Scale (and the rain supporting Mix rain nite) and you can then OHKO with either Ice Beam or Stone Edge. It can also take anything Dragonite throws at it apart from fighting moves and DD LO EQ both are uncommon to say the least. Plus it doesn't give a crap about Paralysis as its slow already. Also the defensive DD Roost set cant OHKO it with anything even after a boost apart from with (exceedingly rare) fighting moves, even +1 40 Atk ev EQ wont OHKO because its that weak and a bad set in general.
Sp.Def Hippowdon works in a similar vein and can live two consecutive LO Draco Meteors and Slack Off all the damage, it also doesn't give a crap about fighting moves unlike Tyranitar. It can also live DD LO boosted Outrages and deal massive damage back with Ice Fang or just simply Roar if Dragonite thinks its remotely threatening to anything with Def evs with the silly DD Roost set. Really the only Hippow fears is the CB set to be honest. Skarmory also does excellently against most of its sets and Sp.Def Skarm can live a LO Draco Meteor and then a consecutive -2 Fire Blast and Roost. Only fire moves really touch it, same with Ferrothorn. Evo Stone P2 and Dusclops IIRC can take everything bar CB Outrages and Balloon steel types such as Heatran as useful as checks. Heatran also walls it totally with its Balloon intact or if Nite Decides to use DD/Fire Punch/<not eq>. Revenging and checking it i find works better though i.e send in Scizor or a various steel (or one of the above Pokes) to check it at first and then use a faster scarfer like Landorus or Terrakion to outspeed and KO it if it decides to be funny. Scarf Haxorus can also outspeed any set and OHKO it through Multi Scale thanks to Mold Breaker. Plus Mamoswine is better than Weavile this metagame. Weavile is walled by anything with Def evs and is SR weak. Not a good combo. Neither can switch in at all but will stop Nite from sweeping you if played well. Mamoswine also poops on Sub Parashuffle Nite as its immune to T-Wave and can bypass Multi Scale with Icicle Spear (really: really useful, if it hits 3 times twice in a row, with SR up CB Icicle Spear has a chance to 2hko Phys def Skarmory [!!!]) Also you should get SR up early to break Multi Scale. Hope this helps, good luck. |
Quick question, does King's Rock combo with Serene Grace?
(I feel like it's no, but I'm just double checking.) |
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Im not very good at team building so I would appreciate some advice and ev spreads. I want to make a gravity team since they fit that balanced playstyle I have. I wanted to start with Dusclops since I always enjoyed the fighting immunity ghosts have any he is a ghost that can use gravity. Seeing as I have a ghost might as well put a spiker seeing as how I always enjoyed spikes.
I came up with this so far Tentacruel (M) @ Red Card Trait: Rain Dish EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Blizzard - Hydro Pump - Rapid Spin - Toxic Spikes Dusclops (M) @ Eviolite Trait: Pressure EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 SDef Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Gravity - Will-O-Wisp - Pain Split - Night Shade I was wondering if anyone could give me a bulkier spread that still nets the key ko's (if possible) when using hydro pump and Blizzard. The real question however is I need a ground check and I don't know which pokemon has the most synergy with these two pokemon. I was thinking a grass type to check the ground but when I think of the OU grass pokemon I think of pokemon like breloom who aren't that bulky =/. Any help? |
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-Calm Mind -Giga Drain -Focus Blast -Hidden Power (Ice) Nature: Timid EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe Item: Life Orb/Leftovers Or -Swords Dance -Leaf Blade -Close Combat -Hidden Power (Ice)/Stone Edge Nature: Hasty/Naive/Jolly EVs: 252 Atk/4 SAtk/252 Spe or 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe Item: Life Orb/Leftovers |
Ferrothorn help?
So it turns out I need a Turtwig from 4th gen to breed both Stealth Rock and Leech Seed, which I don't have. I need entry hazards, so I went with the SR Ferroseed, but it screws up my moveset plans.
I was gonna chuck a Rocky Helmet on there and spam residual damage, but I now have no reliable recovery method. Alternative movesets involving either JUST SR or JUST Leech Seed? |
Use the Simple Q&A sticky for these types of questions next time. It doesn't really deserve its own thread ;x. I'll move it there now.
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Eh, thanks, I wasn't sure where it'd go and I figured since it was a competitive moveset...^^;
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A Question About My Hydreigon
So I recently got into this competitive battling thing a while ago, training pokemon to KO others. I have recently got into a little problem concerning my pseudo-legend of my team, Hydreigon.
Nature: Quiet (+ SpA, - Spee) EV's: 4 HP / 252 SpA Moveset: Draco Metor- Obvious Choice, I'm trying to take advantage for it's 125 sp. Attack. Outrage- Hydreigon also has a good Attack base stat. This is just in case I don't want to waste Hydreigon's special attack (what happens after every time Draco Metor is used successfully). It is also a good choice to sweep pokemon with low defenses in my opinion. Acrobatics- In my opinion I think it fits my Hydreigon very well. (I'll explain it's purpose later) Dark Pulse- Another move I thought would be excellent. And due to the fact he is a dark-type, I decided that Hydreigon would need a dark type move as well. Held Item of choice: (open for suggestions) White Herb Basic Strategy: With a white herb in effect, I can freely use Draco Metor without having to worry about my Hydreigon's Sp.Attack going down the drain. Also, once I use the white herb, Acrobatics will dubble in power, providing a legitimate threat to any fighting or bug type which is Hydreigons natural elemental weakness. Dark Pulse and Outrage were picked because I feel like both moves, combined with Hydreigon's stats, can almost KO, or at least cause immense damage to the opponent. So what do you think, how can I improve, or am I ready to battle? |
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