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PlatinumDude November 13th, 2011 4:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaMightyena (Post 6928110)
So I recently got into this competitive battling thing a while ago, training pokemon to KO others. I have recently got into a little problem concerning my pseudo-legend of my team, Hydreigon.

Nature: Quiet (+ SpA, - Spee)

EV's: 4 HP / 252 SpA

Moveset:
Draco Metor- Obvious Choice, I'm trying to take advantage for it's 125 sp. Attack.
Outrage- Hydreigon also has a good Attack base stat. This is just in case I don't want to waste Hydreigon's special attack (what happens after every time Draco Metor is used successfully). It is also a good choice to sweep pokemon with low defenses in my opinion.
Acrobatics- In my opinion I think it fits my Hydreigon very well. (I'll explain it's purpose later)
Dark Pulse- Another move I thought would be excellent. And due to the fact he is a dark-type, I decided that Hydreigon would need a dark type move as well.

Held Item of choice: (open for suggestions) White Herb

Basic Strategy: With a white herb in effect, I can freely use Draco Metor without having to worry about my Hydreigon's Sp.Attack going down the drain. Also, once I use the white herb, Acrobatics will dubble in power, providing a legitimate threat to any fighting or bug type which is Hydreigons natural elemental weakness. Dark Pulse and Outrage were picked because I feel like both moves, combined with Hydreigon's stats, can almost KO, or at least cause immense damage to the opponent.

So what do you think, how can I improve, or am I ready to battle?

I don't this Hydreigon is suited competitively because:
-A Quiet nature takes away from its decent Speed
-It's completely walled by Steel Pokemon (it lacks Fire Blast or Focus Blast and even Surf). Hydreigon has a wide offensive movepool to take advantage of:
-Draco Meteor
-Dark Pulse/Dragon Pulse
-Fire Blast/Flamethrower
-Focus Blast/U-turn
Nature: Modest
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Choice Specs

or
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast/Flamethrower
-Focus Blast
-U-turn
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Choice Scarf

If you want a mixed attacker, try this:
-Draco Meteor
-Crunch
-Earthquake
-Fire Blast
Nature: Hasty/Naive
EVs: 252 Atk/64 SAtk/192 Spe or 64 Atk/252 SAtk/192 Spe
Item: Life Orb

kingofbluesteel November 14th, 2011 6:20 AM

does acrobatics get the no item boost if flying gem is used since the item is used up?

PlatinumDude November 14th, 2011 4:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingofbluesteel (Post 6929084)
does acrobatics get the no item boost if flying gem is used since the item is used up?

Yes. The no item power boost is applied after Flying Gem is used up. Some calcs:

55 (Acrobatics' base power) x 1.5 (STAB) x 1.5 (Flying Gem boost) x 2 (Acrobatics no item boost) = 247.5 BP

kingofbluesteel November 15th, 2011 8:09 AM

in competive play who stands a better chance of working empoleon or blastoise?

feralig8rx November 15th, 2011 8:51 AM

Is there a specific tier I should be starting off my competitive battling in? I personally don't see how it could matter, but I've also never battled competitively before. I was thinking either RU/OU.

schmittyboy November 15th, 2011 5:45 PM

i have had trouble deciding my shuckle's moveset. It currently has:
Attack: 53
Defense: 584
SP.Atk: 32
SP.Def: 486
Speed: 34

My lead pokemon is a Gardevoir that has trick room so i wanted to abuse the low speed and shuckle's ability to learn "Power Trick" which would switch the attack and defense stat of shuckle.

My current moveset is:
Earthquake
Rest
Power Trick
Stone Edge

I just wanted suggestions on weather this strategy would be viable or ways to improve it.

Dark Azelf November 15th, 2011 6:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schmittyboy (Post 6930944)
i have had trouble deciding my shuckle's moveset. It currently has:
Attack: 53
Defense: 584
SP.Atk: 32
SP.Def: 486
Speed: 34

My lead pokemon is a Gardevoir that has trick room so i wanted to abuse the low speed and shuckle's ability to learn "Power Trick" which would switch the attack and defense stat of shuckle.

My current moveset is:
Earthquake
Rest
Power Trick
Stone Edge

I just wanted suggestions on weather this strategy would be viable or ways to improve it.

Simply put no it wouldnt work. Shuckle's defenses become pathetic after that plus you are better using something that doesn't take as much effort to destroy teams like Terrakion, Tyranitar if you want a rock type that destroys things. Hell even Rhyperior does a better job.

Shuckle should be used defensively in a sandstorm with Aromatherapy/Heal Bell support to rid it of Rest, even then its not very good and outclassed in OU. It should only be used in the lower tiers (READ: nu)

Shuckle @ Leftovers
248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Impish Nature
- Rest
- Encore
- Toxic
- Knock Off / Stealth Rock / Protect / Wrap

Rest is your only healing move. Encore stops things setting up on you by locking them in thus giving you a free switch to something else. Toxic to poison stuff as its your only form of offense really. Last slot is really a filler, Knock off to remove items, SR for a bit for team support. Protect helps stall for poison damage and gives you some lefties recovery and helps with scouting. Wrap is a filler really to do something whilst you are toxic stalling. Oh also use Rapid Spin support too or you get crippled by Stealth Rock.

Either way its not a very good Pokemon at all and others do its job better so id suggest not using it as it takes FAR too much team support for small payoff. There is a reason its "Never Used". Plus its weak to one of the most common moves in the game i.e Stealth Rock, cant do anything once Taunted, easy as heck to set up Spikes on and the list just goes on and on.

ParkRanger November 15th, 2011 6:22 PM

hey guys
can someone tell me how or if black and white
can do lv 100 battles plz
and if not how are battles done
on this website (mostly)

Ho-Oh November 15th, 2011 6:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feralig8rx (Post 6930377)
Is there a specific tier I should be starting off my competitive battling in? I personally don't see how it could matter, but I've also never battled competitively before. I was thinking either RU/OU.

Generally most people play OU (or at least online on the main servers) so it'll be easier to find opponents to battle, buuut OU is basically just weather + baton pass (kinda not that much) + volt-turn + occasional trick room and then offensive/stall/defensive/etc. But definitely weather is common in OU, in saying that, after a while the teams you face are generally predictable and if you face any of those then it'll be pretty easy afterward to try out Pokemon with. Personally I'd recommend OU but that's from my bias viewpoint of not trying RU, lol. But yeah it doesn't matter what tier you start in, since each tier is different and you learn new things either way. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParkRanger (Post 6930994)
hey guys
can someone tell me how or if black and white
can do lv 100 battles plz
and if not how are battles done
on this website (mostly)

Level 100 battles can't occur in Black and White sadly, so the most you can do is play on an online server, or just put up with level 50. :( As for where battles are conducted--seems you found it. XD

PlatinumDude November 15th, 2011 7:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingofbluesteel (Post 6930344)
in competive play who stands a better chance of working empoleon or blastoise?

Think about what each Pokemon does primarily before you use it. In that case, Blastoise is a utility defensive Rapid Spinner (useful when your team is weak to entry hazards; it also has Foresight to guarantee Rapid Spin), while Empoleon can support the team by setting up Stealth Rock. Empoleon can also sweep late game with Agility + 3 attacks (Surf/Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Grass Knot). Both Pokemon can phaze with Dragon Tail or Roar, respectively. In other words, which Pokemon is more effective depends on what your team needs.

ParkRanger November 15th, 2011 7:52 PM

Thanks forever lol
i got just one more question atm
since we can only do lv 50 battles
how are the little leagues and tournaments MOSTLY set up on here
like do people just od the lv 50 or do the leagues and stuff make train ur pokemon to lv 100 so u can actually participate in them ........

Nashton November 15th, 2011 8:48 PM

Cryogonal - #615 (Calm)
HP: 26 - 27
Att: 14 - 15
Def: 31
SpA: 30 - 31
SpD: 30 - 31
Speed: 26 - 27



Cryogonal - #615 (Calm)
HP: 30 - 31
Att: 22 - 23
Def: 22 - 23
SpA: 31
SpD: 30 - 31
Speed: 6 - 7

for a Cryogonal with a move set of
Reflect
Light screen
Recover
Ice beam

which IV spread is best for it?
which EV is best for it?

Impo November 15th, 2011 9:37 PM

The Cryogonal you plan to have seems to be more defensive, so I think you'd want to go with the first set of IV's.

The Ev's you're looking for are 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD with a Calm nature and Light Clay/Leftovers as the item, if you want more information check out Cryogonal's Smogon page.

Good Luck :D !

ParkRanger November 16th, 2011 6:59 AM

ok so i was looking at the banned list of pokemon on here and Smogon....
im just wondering if Blaziken is only banned if it has the dream World Abilty

Ho-Oh November 16th, 2011 7:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ParkRanger (Post 6931532)
ok so i was looking at the banned list of pokemon on here and Smogon....
im just wondering if Blaziken is only banned if it has the dream World Abilty

Nope, Smogon doesn't just ban one ability (aka Garchomp being an example of this, except for Chandelure but that doesn't really count overall in this situation) - so Blaziken is confined to ubers, no matter what ability it has.

Lezza November 16th, 2011 1:08 PM

Black Team...
 
Well I have just got into competitive battling and I would like Feedback on my Team.
[email protected]
Gyro Ball.
Curse.
Earthquake
Eruption.
252.Def. 252. HP 4Sp.Def
Relaxed. White Smoke
A more Defensive set-up. Curse increases Def and Gyro Balls power by 2.

[email protected] Orb.
Night Slash
Psycho Cut
SD
Iron Head.
252 Atk. 252 Spd 4 Hp
Adamant. Defiant
Psyicall Attacker

[email protected] Berry
TBolt
IBeam
Scald
Rapid Spin
252 SP.Atk. 252 Spd. 4 SpDef
Modest Natural Cure.
I dont know what item to put on it?

NOTE: I will not be changing these though I may edit them.
I would like a Entry Hazarder.Feedback appriciated

PlatinumDude November 16th, 2011 5:03 PM

Ferrothorn and Steelix make better Cursers than Torkoal because of their superior defensive typings and STAB on Gyro Ball:

Ferrothorn:
-Curse
-Gyro Ball
-Power Whip
-Bulldoze/Leech Seed
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell

Steelix:
-Curse
-Gyro Ball
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge/Explosion/Rest
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Shed Shell
Ability: Sturdy

For Bisharp, use Sucker Punch instead of Night Slash and Substitute over Psycho Cut (Sucker Punch can be obtained through breeding). You can also consider Brick Break over Iron Head for Steel Pokemon. If you use Substitute, use Leftovers.

Scald isn't cutting it for Starmie; use Surf or Hydro Pump instead. It's also best with a Timid nature to outspeed as much as it possibly can. Use Life Orb with Starmie.

Edit: Ferrothorn can also be used as an entry hazard setter:
-Stealth Rock/Spikes
-Leech Seed
-Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave/Protect
-Power Whip/Protect
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef
Item: Leftovers/Rocky Helmet

RedDragonSilver November 26th, 2011 9:05 AM

Monotype, which is the least used?
 
I was talking with a friend about different Mono-Type teams and novelty strategies(since we decided to play mono-type for fun against ourselves) and this question came up "Which type is used the least in Mono-Type?" Neither of us could answer that question. It seemed like all types were used equally, but some might be used less than others. I really want to figure out the answer to this question, especially since I decided that I would use a type that is rarely used in Mono-type for a breath of fresh air. So my question is "Which type in Mono-Type is the least used if not rarely used?"

Shiny Sheimi November 26th, 2011 10:09 AM

Obviously, I wouldn't be able to tell for certain and I don't have enough experience of monotype tournaments to make an accurate prediction either, but I'd probably say that Ghost would be used very little due to how few Ghost-types there are (and how few decent ones there are, too), and so would Psychic, due to it having quite a lot of weaknesses and disadvantages - namely, lots of the good Psychic-types are slow and would require Trick Room, which can be risky to set up. Electric-types are also generally quite weak but I don't think they would be used rarely due to the number of Electric-types available (not that many, but more than Ghost, definitely). There's also not much to choose from in the Fire-type, but I think people would still use that a lot despite the lack of variety.

So, yeah, I'd predict Ghost-type and Psychic-type, probably.

RedDragonSilver November 26th, 2011 10:21 AM

So Ghost and Psychic huh? Guess that makes sense and If I had to choose, I'd probably choose to use Mono-Ghost since ghosts are more interesting to me, thanks

Shiny Sheimi November 26th, 2011 10:37 AM

Yeah, and it's not that there aren't some good Ghost-types. You certainly couldn't run Shedinja with a Ghost monotype team, but you could run Baton Pass Drifblim and Will-O-Wisp/Hex Gengar or Mismagius. I am a bit fond of Ghost-types myself - your choices are limited but it's possible to do really well with them. Just make sure you set up something that's anti-Dark (namely, Spiritomb or Sableye - you don't just want a Fight-type move to counter Dark-types because a hell of a lot of non-Dark-type Pokémon will have Dark-type moves), because it's a common move type and you already have Ghost 'covered' with Ghost. Move type variety is essential!

If you're into monotype battles, I'd love to have a few battles with you, if you're interested - I have quite a few teams. Don't have a Ghost one yet, but I can put one together if you're interested in doing Ghost v Ghost. :)

Edit: Forgot to mention that I don't have WiFi at the moment so it would have to be Pokémon Online.

Simmy93 November 27th, 2011 6:18 PM

Quite new to the battling scene, me and a friend really want to do double battles. Can we double team online or are we required to find two people locally? Is there any features even in game against the computer we could tag team?

Ho-Oh November 27th, 2011 6:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmy93 (Post 6945356)
Quite new to the battling scene, me and a friend really want to do double battles. Can we double team online or are we required to find two people locally? Is there any features even in game against the computer we could tag team?

It depends on what game you have. In Black and White you can do this in the Multi Trains, but it's only against the computer, while gen 4 also has this with the "Pokémon Communication Club Colosseum" but no on the main games there is no way as of yet to tag battle online, so you're going to have to face the computer :(

PlatinumDude November 27th, 2011 10:40 PM

Which EV spread is more effective for Eviolite Porygon2?:
1. 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef
2. 252 HP/184 Def/72 SDef

Sector December 7th, 2011 9:48 AM

Time to Get #6 - Raichu Help!
 
Hello everyone!

I have been EV training my Pokemon Party in SoulSilver for quite some time now. I just recently spent 2 whole days of trading my old party (aka the Parents of my newly breed Pokemon) to get the exact Nature I want, after reaching level 100 for their parents.

Now I have had 5 across my entire game play of SoulSilver, never cared to work on #6. Until now, its time to find the perfect fit in. The more ideas/opinions, the better! Here is my party:

Naive Raichu (Mighty Fast)
Modest Ninetales
Modest Umbreon
Hasty Espeon
Sassy Dragonite
??????????????

And a good movepool for a Raichu? I had the father learn Volt Tackle with Focus Punch, Thunder & Rain Dance. But I want Raichu to know Thunderbolt instead and still has the moves learned from his father. Just lost on what I should teach him. As Rain Dance take a turn to use and the foe is likely to switch to a Ground/Earthquake user by the time I can use Thunder. Gross Knot would be a good move to teach him as well. He does know Focus Blast rather than Focus Punch now so don't mention that lol

Thunderbolt, Focus Blast, Grass Knot..4th move? I don't even have a clue..I like Volt Tackle though, powerful move. Shame recoil exist lol


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