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Ho-Oh February 22nd, 2012 5:15 PM

Gardevoir has the least practical use since you have Staraptor for fighting and you wanna keep it to fly around.

何贤豪 February 23rd, 2012 2:09 AM

Hello!
I have another question, again...
So, I have found out that Haxorus is a threat to two parts of my team...Rotom-W and Heatran. I could remedy that by giving Heatran an Air Balloon, but that's temporary...and I was thinking of using the TormenTran set. So, I was thinking of using an Ice-type or Dragon-type to counter Haxorus. I was thinking of Mamoswine or Dragonite. Dragonite...it resists Haxorus' Earthquake and is pretty bulky...but I don't really know if it can stand a hit from Haxorus' Dragon-type moves. Mamoswine is said to be pretty bulky too and its Ice-type moves hit Haxorus pretty hard, I guess. And it also takes normal damage...from Earthquake. But I don't really know if it can withstand Haxorus' Attack power...if it holds a Choice Band.
So, which one should I use? Or should I use a different Ice-type/Dragon-type?
Thanks!
And also...about my other question...is it better to use someone who would instantly kill Blissey/Chansey or wait until my Pokemon is (slowly) killed by Blissey/Chansey and then use a Pokemon to kill Blissey/Chansey...

Ho-Oh February 23rd, 2012 3:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainy Garden of Fire (Post 7058459)
Hello!
I have another question, again...
So, I have found out that Haxorus is a threat to two parts of my team...Rotom-W and Heatran. I could remedy that by giving Heatran an Air Balloon, but that's temporary...and I was thinking of using the TormenTran set. So, I was thinking of using an Ice-type or Dragon-type to counter Haxorus. I was thinking of Mamoswine or Dragonite. Dragonite...it resists Haxorus' Earthquake and is pretty bulky...but I don't really know if it can stand a hit from Haxorus' Dragon-type moves. Mamoswine is said to be pretty bulky too and its Ice-type moves hit Haxorus pretty hard, I guess. And it also takes normal damage...from Earthquake. But I don't really know if it can withstand Haxorus' Attack power...if it holds a Choice Band.
So, which one should I use? Or should I use a different Ice-type/Dragon-type?
Thanks!
And also...about my other question...is it better to use someone who would instantly kill Blissey/Chansey or wait until my Pokemon is (slowly) killed by Blissey/Chansey and then use a Pokemon to kill Blissey/Chansey...

It's best not to use a dragon type to counter a dragon type due to its weakness to the super effective attacks - plus if the opponent has SR up, Haxorus outspeeds Dragonite even without a nature invested in speed which'd make Multiscale useless and Dragonite ready to get KO'd (even with Multiscale it still does around 80%). Choice Band Mamo @ Ice Shard only does about 85% to Haxorus, so even with SR up it wouldn't KO (at least I'm pretty sure on the SR part). You could always sacrifice a Pokemon or something, and try that then use Scizor with Bullet Punch. If not, then probably the other thing you can do is to use Skarmory.

It's better to outright kill them yeah, you don't really want your Pokemon to get hurt. ;x Unless you mean to setup which is okay too, but if you have Terrakion you can kill it anyways w/o needing to setup.

何贤豪 February 23rd, 2012 4:14 AM

So, how could I counter Haxorus again?
And if that's the case, I could use Terrakion NOT as a revenge-killer. Because revenge-killers...well, from the name, it means that it would be used after a teammate goes down.
Or maybe I should use Conkeldurr instead...?

Ho-Oh February 23rd, 2012 5:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainy Garden of Fire (Post 7058541)
So, how could I counter Haxorus again?
And if that's the case, I could use Terrakion NOT as a revenge-killer. Because revenge-killers...well, from the name, it means that it would be used after a teammate goes down.
Or maybe I should use Conkeldurr instead...?

Best bet is probably going with SR on something then going to something else with strong priority that can't really be affected by the possible DD boost either when it's locked into an Outrage or if it uses DD. Those choices being Mamo/Scizor (latter has strong priority and can resist outrage, soo). ;x Or Skarmory as said due to resisting its attacks and restoring the damage.

As for revenge killers, you can argue that anything with priority or anything equipped with Choice Scarf or high speed can be a revenge killer, depending on what Pokemon are involved. Terrakion can still be used for that role and to OHKO those things.

何贤豪 February 23rd, 2012 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7058600)


Best bet is probably going with SR on something then going to something else with strong priority that can't really be affected by the possible DD boost either when it's locked into an Outrage or if it uses DD. Those choices being Mamo/Scizor (latter has strong priority and can resist outrage, soo). ;x Or Skarmory as said due to resisting its attacks and restoring the damage.

As for revenge killers, you can argue that anything with priority or anything equipped with Choice Scarf or high speed can be a revenge killer, depending on what Pokemon are involved. Terrakion can still be used for that role and to OHKO those things.

And about revenge killers...I can still use Terrakion to eliminate Blissey/Chansey without waiting for a teammate to go down?
And so...I should use Scizor then. Problem is, Earthquake from Haxorus might be able to eliminate it, due to Scizor being a Steel-type. So, it's Mamoswine for me, then! OR...Skarmory can do the trick. Even though it's a Steel-type, it resists Haxorus' Earthquake, even until it can't feel the damage AT ALL. And I could use A LOT of entry hazards!

Dark Azelf February 24th, 2012 4:26 AM

Just as of note, Scizor is also bug type which means EQ is neutral on it.

EarthWolfblade February 24th, 2012 11:51 AM

Need help on a wifi team
 
I'm not by any means new to pokemon but I haven't really done much competitive battling so I was wondering what kind of team I should use?

A Sadistic Bastard February 24th, 2012 3:43 PM

Need help becoming the greatest ever (doubles)
 
I just lost 0-4 to a blizzard team. I obviously need to change my team. I would like to create a team centered around this pokemon
Rhyperior (Adamant) lv 50
Attack- 206
Defense- 145
Special attack 74
Special defense 79
Speed 54

Mkay. Rhyperior > Everything else

何贤豪 February 24th, 2012 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Azelf (Post 7059860)
Just as of note, Scizor is also bug type which means EQ is neutral on it.

Yeah, but which one then? I don't really have a priority attacker...and Scizor can fill that role very well. But Skarmory can wall Haxorus, although I'd have to watch out for a magnet...Magnezone. Scizor also has problems with it...but U-turn can fix it, right? And then, I can make Magnezone trap its melting steel friend which is also a problem for it...Heatran.
So, I'll just use Scizor, then!

ELVISTHEGUY February 25th, 2012 12:12 AM

I wouldn't be playing with a Rhyperior in 5th Gen, since it has 6 elemental weaknesses, including ice and water, which would make it get owned by hail and rain teams.
Anyways presuming you're making a Sandstorm team I would be going with Tyranitar as a Lead, since it has an awesome abilty.
Oh and I forgot to state that even though Tyranitar has many elemental weaknesses it could be a beast if played right! (:

Lati-Fan95 February 25th, 2012 2:43 AM

How about Trick Room? Rhyperior isn´t really the fastest Pokemon but if you´d be in TR, that would actually be a advantage!^^ Search some good TR user (I usually use Reuniclus for this but that´s your decision), a way to set TR up (Follow Me, Rage Powder or Fake Out will usually do on a partner): I´d suggest Amoonguss since you get almost-priority Spore in TR (if it survives, of course...) or maybe Hitmontop bcause it usually carries Priority Moves only so it´ll usually attack first no matter what!^^

As for movesets:

Reuniclus @Life Orb/White Herb
Trait: Magic Guard
IVs: 0 Spe
Nature: Quiet (+SpA; -Spe)
EVs: 252 SpA, 252 HP, 4 Def/SpD
-Psyshock/Psychic
-Focus Blast/HP Fighting
-Shadow Ball
-Trick Room

Pretty mainstream, I know but it´s very good!^^ Psychic is STAB and if you want 10 points more damage, Psyshock if you want to hit stuff like Jellicent or Blissey. Focus Blast works well against Dark types. Alternatively, you can use HP Fighting but that´d mean a serious strength drop but 100 acc... Choose whatever you prefer!^^ Shadow Ball takes care of Ghosts and other Psychics and TR... Yeah, TR is pretty much the main point of this set because you this lets Reuniclus´ pretty bad speed work for you cuz, yeah, it´ll pretty much always attack first!^^

Oh, and item-wise: Use Life Orb for more power but White Herb if you´re scared of Taunt, Fake Out, Encore etc.

Amoonguss @Focus Sash/White Herb
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 252 HP, 128 Def, 128SpD
Nature: Relaxed (+Def;-Spe), Sassy (+SpD;-Spe)
IVs: 0 Spe
-Spore
-Rage Powder
-Sludge Bomb
-Giga Drain

The strategy is simple: 1st turn: Rage Powder to set TR up, 2nd Turn: Spore the most threatening Pokemon 3rd turn: Recover with Giga Drain or Spore the 2nd Pokemon!^^ Sludge Bomb helps against other Plants!^^
Items: Yeah, Focus Sash ensures that Reuniclus doesn´t take hits (except for spread moves, of course...) and White Herb safes you from Taunt, Fake Out, Encore etc.!^^

Hitmontop @Life Orb/Eject Button
EVs: 252 HP, 200 Atk, 56 SpD/Def (if you don´t want Intimidate)
Nature: Adamant (+Atk;-SpA), Brave (+Atk;-Spe)
Trait: Intimidate/Technician
Attacks:
-Fake Out
-Mach Punch
-Wide Guard/Detect
-Sucker punch

This one is more all-round supporter-ish: Use Fake Out on the TR counter/Reuniclus counter and make sure TR is set up!^^ Then, attack away!^^ Wide Guard is for protection against Spread moves like Water Spout, Surf and Blizzard (^^)... Oh, and Sucker Punch is coverage!^^

Items: Since Priority moves don´t do much damage, Life Orb might be a good option. Or if you feel a little gimmicky today, try out Eject Button+Intimidate: The Eject Button lets you recycle the effects of Fake Out and Intimidate due to forced switch-out!^^ Might come in handy when Hitmontop can´t do much or when you feel like wanting to annoy the opponent with Fake Out later!^^

Dark Azelf February 25th, 2012 2:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainy Garden of Fire (Post 7060850)
Yeah, but which one then? I don't really have a priority attacker...and Scizor can fill that role very well. But Skarmory can wall Haxorus, although I'd have to watch out for a magnet...Magnezone. Scizor also has problems with it...but U-turn can fix it, right? And then, I can make Magnezone trap its melting steel friend which is also a problem for it...Heatran.
So, I'll just use Scizor, then!

Skarm should ALWAYS run a Shed Shell to escape from Magnezone this gen considering its especially high in usage so its a non issue for a smart Skarmory.

Scizor would be better on an offensive team to counter Haxorus, skarm would fit more on a stallish team. Forretress and Ferrothorn also can beat Haxorus pretty well.

benuc184 February 25th, 2012 6:53 PM

Well, finally. I got my team.

LUCARIO
EMPOLEON
STARAPTOR
ROSERADE
HOUNDOOM/ROTOM
GABITE

Yeah, if someone would help me choose Houndoom or Rotom, I'd be VERY appreciative.

Thanks to everyone for all the help!

xSkullKing16x February 25th, 2012 8:28 PM

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Originally Posted by benuc184 (Post 7062387)
Well, finally. I got my team.

LUCARIO
EMPOLEON
STARAPTOR
ROSERADE
HOUNDOOM/ROTOM
GABITE

Yeah, if someone would help me choose Houndoom or Rotom, I'd be VERY appreciative.

Thanks to everyone for all the help!

Rotom. It has two double weaknesses, as Houndoom has four. Personally I wouldn't use either, as they are not the best. But with Rotom, it has a lot of resistances. I would have volt switch, thunder, and shadow ball for the moves. Then the rest is up to you. But I am not quite sure how you will run that team, but it seems useful. I hope this helped, good luck with your team!

何贤豪 February 25th, 2012 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Azelf (Post 7061595)
Skarm should ALWAYS run a Shed Shell to escape from Magnezone this gen considering its especially high in usage so its a non issue for a smart Skarmory.

Scizor would be better on an offensive team to counter Haxorus, skarm would fit more on a stallish team. Forretress and Ferrothorn also can beat Haxorus pretty well.

Alright, it's Scizor. Because I'm running an offensive team. I prefer to see my opponents faint from an attack in a split-second rather than seeing it faint due to being tired from attacking my Pokemon and being gradually damaged. And I'll use Forretress too to use Stealth Rock and Rapid Spin (this is fine, right?). And another question...I CAN use revenge killers instantly, right? (As in, revenge killers are supposed to faint the opponent that brought the revenge killer's teammate down. Terrakion's my revenge killer and a good counter to Blissey/Chansey which threatens Celebi, Rotom-W and Heatran, a part of my team. I'm asking whether I could just switch in Terrakion whenever Blissey's around.)
If Forretress wouldn't be good to put Stealth Rock, can I use Ferrothorn to do whatever Forretress was asked to do (Rapid Spin + Stealth Rock)?

PlatinumDude February 25th, 2012 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainy Garden of Fire (Post 7062697)
Alright, it's Scizor. Because I'm running an offensive team. I prefer to see my opponents faint from an attack in a split-second rather than seeing it faint due to being tired from attacking my Pokemon and being gradually damaged. And I'll use Forretress too to use Stealth Rock and Rapid Spin (this is fine, right?). And another question...I CAN use revenge killers instantly, right? (As in, revenge killers are supposed to faint the opponent that brought the revenge killer's teammate down. Terrakion's my revenge killer and a good counter to Blissey/Chansey which threatens Celebi, Rotom-W and Heatran, a part of my team. I'm asking whether I could just switch in Terrakion whenever Blissey's around.)
If Forretress wouldn't be good to put Stealth Rock, can I use Ferrothorn to do whatever Forretress was asked to do (Rapid Spin + Stealth Rock)?

Not exactly. While Ferrothorn can lay down Stealth Rock/Spikes like Forretress can, it can't learn Rapid Spin.

benuc184 February 26th, 2012 2:55 PM

Okay remember when I said I had my final team done? I lied.

THIS IS IT

EMPOLEON
LUCARIO
WEAVILE (As of in about 3 hours: Currently a Sneasel)
ROSERADE
GABITE
STARAPTOR

Yeah, I'm gonna post a thing in In-Game Team Help with all the movesets and EVs and natures and items. But what is an EV? Thanks to everyone!

Spencer

何贤豪 February 27th, 2012 12:40 AM

Okay then...and a question that may be answered once, but I still don't understand the answer.
Can I use revenge killers instantly? (As in, revenge killers are supposed to faint the opponent that brought the revenge killer's teammate down. Terrakion's my revenge killer and a good counter to Blissey/Chansey which threatens Celebi, Rotom-W and Heatran, a part of my team. I'm asking whether I could just send in Terrakion whenever Blissey's around.)
And if you'd like to know about EVs, how about looking at this page?

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Effort_values

ipodboqi February 27th, 2012 4:42 AM

Is it against the rules to lay a ton of entry hazards, and use a fast Pokemon that learns roar to spam roar to give the opposing team's Pokémon a lot of damage?

Ho-Oh February 27th, 2012 4:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ipodboqi (Post 7064534)
Is it against the rules to lay a ton of entry hazards, and use a fast Pokemon that learns roar to spam roar to give the opposing team's Pokémon a lot of damage?

Nope, that's pretty much the whole point of PHazing. Not many "fast" Pokemon learn those attacks, though, but yeah, that's generally what stall tends to do. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainy Garden of Fire (Post 7064373)
Okay then...and a question that may be answered once, but I still don't understand the answer.
Can I use revenge killers instantly? (As in, revenge killers are supposed to faint the opponent that brought the revenge killer's teammate down. Terrakion's my revenge killer and a good counter to Blissey/Chansey which threatens Celebi, Rotom-W and Heatran, a part of my team. I'm asking whether I could just send in Terrakion whenever Blissey's around.)

Yes you can use it in general to kill Blissey, revenge killer is basically its second purpose.

何贤豪 February 27th, 2012 6:30 AM

Alright then...thanks! And...actually, which one's better? Infernape or Heatran and Celebi or Breloom?
And also...would someone having low HP, high Defense and Special Defense be pretty frail? Because Breloom and Rotom-W are like this (low HP, high Defense and Special Defense)...

Ho-Oh February 27th, 2012 6:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainy Garden of Fire (Post 7064596)
Alright then...thanks! And...actually, which one's better? Infernape or Heatran and Celebi or Breloom?

They're different in general so I'm just going to sum up the main points/differences about them to help your choice.

Infernape is speedier than Heatran, has strong fighting STABs, and in a battle would beat Heatran due to its fighting attacks. Heatran however has the great steel typing which makes it resist the dragon typing, something that's common in OU, plus Flash Fire, allowing it to boost its stats if it switches in at the right time. Infernape can do that too, but it can't absorb the fire attacks. It just depends whether you want a fast+strong Pokemon or a slower but more useful one. ;x Both however have access to Stealth Rock though, but other than that and the fire typing, that's the only similarity they share.

For Celebi and Breloom, again it depends if you want special or physical (although Celebi can run physical sets due to how its base stats are worked out). Both have access to an attack that can boost its defensive stat which corresponds with its offensive stat and both have recovery moves in actual attacks (Giga Drain and Drain Punch). Breloom, however, has access to Poison Heal, a useful ability that helps it last longer by restoring its HP and makes it immune to status, while Celebi can remove its status issues purely by switching out. Both can be useful in the current metagame, really.

So yeah, there isn't really a "better" one, they all just have different purposes. :x

Miss Doronjo February 27th, 2012 6:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainy Garden of Fire (Post 7064596)
And also...would someone having low HP, high Defense and Special Defense be pretty frail? Because Breloom and Rotom-W are like this (low HP, high Defense and Special Defense)...

I wouldn't call them "frail", but "bulky". See, pokemon the Rotom can serve as bulky offensive sweepers. They can also sponge a couple of hits from a few pokemon, like in Rotom's case, a Metagross. Breloom can sponge water and electric attacks from say, a jellicent and a jolteon.

Again, bare in mind they're not walls, so they can't take a lot of hits, but only hits in moderation.

Micolina February 29th, 2012 7:07 AM

I have one spot left on my team, and I'm thinking about getting a steel pokemon. It stands between Ferroseed and Exadrill.

Which pokemon should I choose?

On my team I have Dewott, Leavanny, Darmanitan, Sigilyph and Archen (I'm not sure about Archen though, any better idea?)


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