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Amore June 17th, 2011 7:16 AM

Dragon's Den Version 5
 
Generation V brings Version 5...Welcome to the Dragon's Den!
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Rules
Follow all PokéCommunity and Pokémon Groups rules.
Only Owners may post topics.


Joining
Just ask! We won't turn you down unless we have an extremely extreme vendetta against you...which we don't. Honest. ;)

If you wish, answer one or more of these questions:
Spoiler:

What is your favourite Dragon?
Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber?
Lance vs. Clair?
Drayden vs. Iris?
Which Dragon looks best in its shiny form?
Which is your favourite forme of Giratina? 'Origin' or 'Altered'?
Should Tyranitar be a Dragon?
Should Altaria be a Dragon?
Favourite legendary Dragon?
Reshiram or Zekrom?
Haxorus or Hydreigon?
What is your opinion on Druddigon?


Pokémon considered to be Dragons
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Any opposition to these choices is welcomed...just be reasonable, logical and polite at all times. Heated discussion is acceptable, flamewars are not.

Members List
Amore - Owner
Silhouette - Owner
tkallab
Stoney the Togekiss
Hikari10
竜の子

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tkallab June 18th, 2011 11:53 AM

I dunno if I'll ever be as active again as I was in version 4... But sign me up! I'll have to let you down on your offer for me to become an Owner, but I'll happily become a member again.

I'll answer some Gen V questions while I'm at it.

Reshiram or Zekrom?
While I think Zekrom's design is closer to that of the Western dragon, he also has a more mechanical look which I don't like. And I really like the take Nintendo took on the wyvern look for Reshiram. Plus, I prefer using Reshiram in the final battle against N, because it looks noble and just and all, while Zekrom looks pretty darn evil.
Haxorus or Hydreigon?
Haxorus. I detest multiple heads.
What is your opinion on Druddigon?

I think he´s awesome because he´s intentionally made ugly.

Amore June 18th, 2011 2:05 PM

Well...you replied, so that's one thing!

Sorry you can't be as active as your were in V4...but that's O.k. too.

Haha, I gotta agree with you on all three of your answers there. Although it's not because Hydreigon has three heads...after all, Haxorus' head is a double-bladed axe. I just think Hydreigon is too ridiculously evil-looking. And it's pokédex entries kinda imply that it'd sooner eat you than show you affection. It's movepool is also a bit of a failure, with Dark Pulse only being an Egg Move.

I should probably answer my own questions...

Drayden vs. Iris?
Definitely Drayden. Iris' anime appearances ruined her for me, although her Excadrill is pretty cool. Drayden looks cool, really suits his role as city mayor, and is good because you don't encounter him earlier in the game.


Gymnotide June 19th, 2011 5:52 AM

I don't know. I'll probably never post in this thread again.

However, I do feel like the thread-starter list of dragons is pretty arbitrarily generated. For example, what makes Kingdra any more of a dragon than Seadra? They are both based on real-life seahorses, only one has Dragon-typing. I feel like Altaria is being singled out just because of its appearance--so why Kingdra, who doesn't resemble a "dragon" in any (Western and Orient) sense? Then there's Vibrava, who isn't a dragon at all, but more of an insect.

I also feel like Charmander / Charmeleon are dragons as much as Bagon and Shelgon are. And Onix and Steelix too (those guys even learn Dragonbreath).

Er, and Aerodactyl / Tyranitar are dinosaurs, not dragons. Aerodactyl, I feel is only on this list because Lance had one--he's only a pterodactyl, far from any fire-breathing cryptozoological creature. Plus, if they're both on this list, then Tropius (lolololol Dragon Dance + Razor Leaf) should be here too (and probably Archeops).

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Ehhhhhhh, Hydreigon only has one brain though, so the other two heads should just be regarded as extra heads to feed. And are you kidding? Hydreigon can learn like 16 of the 17 types, something only Octillery can top (since I think Octillery learns 15 attacking types, rather than just moves). I don't really like Hydreigon or Haxorus, though. Deino and Fraxure are cute.

Amore June 19th, 2011 6:20 AM



Well, you've got an opinion - that's good. Should I add you to the member's list?

Personally I agree with you on Vibrava - it's just a bug really. However, the reason Kingdra is more of a dragon than Seadra is its' Dragon typing and the ability to learn more dragon moves.

Tropius only learns Dragon Dance as an egg move, as far as I know. Most people actually argue against Altaria because of its' appearance. Aerodactyl...well, yeah, it's used by Lance, can learn quite a few dragon moves, and, like Tyranitar, is a dinosaur. And a common assumption is that Dragons are related to dinosaurs. They can also learn an amazing amount of elemental moves, like most dragons, and as you mentioned fire-breathing They both learn Flamethrower.

I do agree on Deino and Fraxure though. Axew's fairly cute, but a little too small, and Iris in the anime ruins him for me.


SmashBrony June 20th, 2011 11:32 AM

I'd like to join...
I was a member in the last version.

What is your favourite Dragon?
Haxorus.

Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber?
I'll go along with the populace, so Garchomp should be & Salamence should not be.

Lance vs. Clair?
Lance. He's not a jerk like Clair.

Drayden vs. Iris?
I like both.

Which Dragon looks best in its shiny form?
As far as I know, Haxorus.

Which is your favourite forme of Giratina? 'Origin' or 'Altered'?
I like the serpentine 'orgin' forme.

Should Tyranitar be a Dragon?
I think it's supposed to be a dinosaur... but then, dinosaurs were called dragons before the word dinosaur existed... & dragon could pretty much mean "massive reptile"...

Should Altaria be a Dragon?
I belive there is a reason for it being Dragon-typed... would have to ask Nintendo why...

Favourite legendary Dragon?
Latias or Zekrom.

Reshiram or Zekrom?
Zekrom.

Haxorus or Hydreigon?
Haxorus.

What is your opinion on Druddigon?
It's a rather interesting pokemon...

Amore June 21st, 2011 5:46 AM



Welcome back!

Haha, who am I kidding, this place sucks. Badly.

I like your reasoning behind Tyranitar's status...

SmashBrony June 21st, 2011 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6705249)


Welcome back!

Haha, who am I kidding, this place sucks. Badly.

I like your reasoning behind Tyranitar's status...

Hey, don't give up so easily!

& with my reasoning for Tyranitar's status, wouldn't that make Meganuim, Rampardos & a few others dragons too?

Amore June 21st, 2011 12:17 PM


Rampardos I could kinda see...but it's sort of a grey area, just like when we decided that Gyarados is a Dragon and Milotic isn't.

Meganium? No, it's a plant. I honestly don't think you could justify a plant-based Dragon, and think that there should never be a Grass/Dragon pokémon. Or a Bug/Dragon either.


SmashBrony June 21st, 2011 1:05 PM

The Chinese & the Japanese would beg to differ...

From what my oriental loving cousin told me, both countries has legends of dragons that lives in the bamboo forest.

So I could see a bamboo-like serpent Grass/Dragon pokemon coming to be.

Amore June 21st, 2011 1:33 PM



A dragon living in the forest I could accept. I mean, they're versatile, right?

But what I do not want to see is a Dragon that has bits of plant growing from it, like most Grass-types are.

SmashBrony June 21st, 2011 3:05 PM

Keyword: versatile.

This mean Dragon can be paired with ANY type.

I fail to see the problem with Grass/Dragon & Bug/Dragon is...
(& Flygon is pretty much a bug, even with the Ground/Dragon typing... in fact, from what I recall, it can only reproduce with bugs!)

竜の子 June 26th, 2011 10:33 AM

Can I join?

What is your favourite Dragon? Hydreigon
Which Dragon looks best in its shiny form? Dratini
Which is your favourite forme of Giratina? 'Origin' or 'Altered'? Altered
Reshiram or Zekrom? Zekrom
Haxorus or Hydreigon? Hydreigon ftw

Hikamaru June 26th, 2011 6:29 PM

Username: Hikari10
What is your favourite Dragon? Hydreigon, love its design.
Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber? Maybe they should cos they are popular in competition.
Lance vs. Clair? Lance cos Clair refuses to give you your badge until you take the Dragon's Den.
Drayden vs. Iris? Iris. I might be playing Black but I like Iris better.
Which Dragon looks best in its shiny form? Dialga and Palkia.
Which is your favourite forme of Giratina? 'Origin' or 'Altered'? Origin cos I've got Platinum.
Should Tyranitar be a Dragon? Looks Dragon-like but its typing is OK.
Should Altaria be a Dragon? Yeah, my bro calls it the "Cotton Dragon Bird"
Favourite legendary Dragon? Dialga and Palkia, Reshiram and Zekrom.
Reshiram or Zekrom? I'm playing Black so I'll go with Reshiram.
Haxorus or Hydreigon? Hydreigon. Better design and moveset than Haxorus.
What is your opinion on Druddigon? Nice color scheme.

Amore June 27th, 2011 10:01 AM



Yeah welcome to the club...hope you enjoy it...whatever "it" is.



竜の子 June 27th, 2011 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amore (Post 6715941)


Yeah welcome to the club...hope you enjoy it...whatever "it" is.



Was that to me or to H10?

Silhouette June 27th, 2011 6:37 PM

Wow, whoa, I didn't even realize this was up again.

What is your favourite Dragon?
  • I'm going to have to stick with Flygon on this one. Just awesomeness in a bundle of awesome.
Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber?
  • If it were me, I'd have no tiers to Pokemon I swear I'm not communist. I say nay.
Lance vs. Clair?
  • This is so tough! D: I don't know.
Drayden vs. Iris?
  • Iris. What the heck is up with Drayden's... beard... thing?
Which Dragon looks best in its shiny form?
  • Charizard, Rayquaza, perhaps even the ol' classic Red Gyarados.
Which is your favourite forme of Giratina? 'Origin' or 'Altered'?
  • Origin is cool, but something about Altered makes it creepy in a cool way.
Should Tyranitar be a Dragon?
  • WYNAUT!
Should Altaria be a Dragon?
Favourite legendary Dragon?
  • I would have to go with Dialga or Latias.
Reshiram or Zekrom?
  • They're both pretty cool.
Haxorus or Hydreigon?
  • I'm not a fan of Hydreigon's stat distribution, but I still like it. However, Haxorus is more my style.
What is your opinion on Druddigon?
  • A cool, strong pure dragon that doesn't die to Ice Beam.

razaurman July 6th, 2011 7:15 PM

joining
 
dragon types have always been my favorite. they are hard to train but if your patient they are the most reliable.

please let me join

What is your favourite Dragon?
garchomp

Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber?
not sure if uber is a real word but yes to both
Lance vs. Clair?
clair because shes hot
Drayden vs. Iris?
drayden because he isn't scattered brained
Which Dragon looks best in its shiny form?
tyranitar
Which is your favourite forme of Giratina? 'Origin' or 'Altered'?
altered
Should Tyranitar be a Dragon?
I already think it is.
Should Altaria be a Dragon?
no its a cloud bird. thats not a dragon thats a freaking cloud
Favourite legendary Dragon?
latios
Reshiram or Zekrom?
zekrom because it has arms
Haxorus or Hydreigon?
Hydreigon
What is your opinion on Druddigon?
worst dragon type ever

Masters Cage July 6th, 2011 8:30 PM

What is your favourite Dragon? Hydreigon....

Drayden vs. Iris? Drayden will win, especially with those side burns.... -_-

Which Dragon looks best in its shiny form? I dont like most dragon shinies because they are allmost allways grey and discoloured.... The best I think is Hydreigon....

Which is your favourite forme of Giratina? 'Origin' or 'Altered'? Origin FTW

Should Tyranitar be a Dragon? Maybe.... It has most characteristics, though has no wings....

Should Altaria be a Dragon? No, its a fluffy white cloud bird....

Favourite legendary Dragon? Lugia....

Reshiram or Zekrom? Reshiram....

Haxorus or Hydreigon? Hydreigon FTW....

What is your opinion on Druddigon? Crazy sun-of-a-gun is beast.... It looks so wierd its kinda cool....

weavile77 July 8th, 2011 9:50 PM

I <3 dragon types so much
Can I join?



What is your favourite Dragon?
Salamence

Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber?
Just Garchomp (Salamence is just too much fun in OU)

Lance vs. Clair?
Neither Rayqauza would calm and banish the two as it did with Kyogre and Groudon

Drayden vs. Iris?
Drayden

Which Dragon looks best in its shiny form?
Rayquaza by far IMHO

Which is your favourite forme of Giratina? 'Origin' or 'Altered'?
Altered (I like how imposing it looks standing tall and mighty)

Should Tyranitar be a Dragon?
Hmmmmm If Tyranitar then why not Sceptile and many others?

Should Altaria be a Dragon?
I guess so…

Favourite legendary Dragon?
Reshiram

Reshiram or Zekrom?
^^
Haxorus or Hydreigon?
Haxorus ‘cuz he’s so friggin [email protected]$$

What is your opinion on Druddigon?
Unique

Dark Bolt July 9th, 2011 3:54 AM

this kinds looks interesting.

What is your favourite Dragon? maybe hydreigon due to its speed and dragon pulse. it only loses to dialga.
Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber?probably to demonstrate their true powers. yes.
Lance vs. Clair? clair because she's sexy and i want to do it with her in bed.
Drayden vs. Iris? maybe drayden.
Which Dragon looks best in its shiny form?rayquaza it looks friggin evil. i wonder why groudon isn't considered dragon. it learns dragon claw and flamethrower and fire blast.
Which is your favourite forme of Giratina? 'Origin' or 'Altered'? origin forme is epic.
Should Tyranitar be a Dragon? hell yh but it should keep its typing as is.
Should Altaria be a Dragon?altaria is already a dragon but it looks more like a candy bird.
Favourite legendary Dragon?palkia dialga zekrom reshiram kyurem maybe lugia and rayquaza.
Reshiram or Zekrom?zekrom heck yh i love evil pokemon.
Haxorus or Hydreigon?hydreigon. it represents evil.
What is your opinion on Druddigon?it is such a brute not even vanilluxe can kill it. a ice cream? kill a dragon? never! although palkia pwns it. :)

Pokemon Game Fan July 11th, 2011 9:06 AM

I love Dragons. I'd also love to join. :)

What is your favourite Dragon?
Tie between Dragonite, Gyarados, and Charizard, possibly Salamence too (non legendaries)

Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber?
Salamence totally should. I guess Garchomp could too.

Lance vs. Clair?
Lance is the greatest trainer EVER. Next to Ash in the Anime and Brendan in the games of course.

Drayden vs. Iris?
Haven't played my White yet, but Drayden seems better.

Which Dragon looks best in its shiny form?
Rayquaza or Dragonite. Maybe Charizard too.

Which is your favourite forme of Giratina? 'Origin' or 'Altered'?
Origin. They're both awesome, but Origin suits him more.

Should Tyranitar be a Dragon?
No. I love Tyranitar, and he'd be cool as a dragon too, but he's better off as a Rock/Dark. Although he could easily play one off, he looks like a dinosaur.

Should Altaria be a Dragon?
No. I don't know why Altaria is considered a Dragon to some people.

Favourite legendary Dragon?
Rayquaza. Or Latios.

Reshiram or Zekrom?
Haven't played White yet, but based off looks and type: Zekrom > Reshiram, Fire Dragon > Lightning Dragon so it's a tie to me.

Haxorus or Hydreigon?
Hydreigon

What is your opinion on Druddigon?
He.. has a great looking design?

The Last One July 13th, 2011 12:27 AM

I request joinage!! pweasee
What is your favourite Dragon?
Dragonite(My first ever Lvl 100 pokemon)
Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber?
What does Uber mean? I'll say yes anyway
Lance vs. Clair?
Lance, because I dont remember Clair as much
Which is your favourite forme of Giratina? 'Origin' or 'Altered'?
Altered
Should Tyranitar be a Dragon?
Well, I see how people say it resembles a dinosaur, BUT, what dinosaur, if someone can please kindly point out to me :) and please keep in mind, that not all Dragons have wings, nor can all Dragons fly, People could also make an arguement that Garchomp (and family) is not a Dragon, BUT, sharks :), But YES I do believe it should be a Dragon
Should Altaria be a Dragon?
hmm, this is a tough question indeed, well swablu(its un-evolved form) is more of a tiny bird.. I think Altaria resembles a cute bird-of-prey of some sort. Now, I believe JUST because a Pokemon can learn Dragon-type moves, it should be considered a Dragon-Type Pokemon, is very... illogical.. Does that mean Ditto should be added because it COULD become a Dragon Pokemon? or how about a Pokeon that knows Metronome, because they COULD use a Dragon-Type move that way? But NO, I do not think it should be a Dragon
Favourite legendary Dragon?
Ray-Ray(Rayquaza)


BTW, I know NOTHING of gen V. of Pokemon :/

alisaie July 13th, 2011 5:42 AM

What is your favourite Dragon?
Flygon, Dragonair, Latias, and Altaria.

Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber?
I can't really say, because I don't know much about Competitive battling this generation.

Lance vs. Clair?
Clair. Just 'cause. :V

Drayden vs. Iris?
Iris. n_n

Which Dragon looks best in its shiny form?
Gyarados, Haxorus, and Giratina

Which is your favourite forme of Giratina? 'Origin' or 'Altered'?
Mnn... tough choice. I like both of them for particular reasons. I guess I like the 'Altered' version more though.

Should Tyranitar be a Dragon?
Mnn, sure? I guess? idk. :(

Should Altaria be a Dragon?
Yes. >:( Underrated Dragon is underrated, just because it doesn't look like a dragon doesn't mean it can't be a Dragon. ;_;

Favourite legendary Dragon?
Lugiaaaaaaaaaaaaa. <3

Reshiram or Zekrom?
Even though I got White I like Reshiram more. :U
Haxorus or Hydreigon?

What is your opinion on Druddigon?
Ew. :( The Blue body and the red head just... doesn't mix well with me.

Skip Class July 13th, 2011 6:31 PM

I'm coming back into groups again and I never got the chance to join any of the previous DD's

Could I join?

What is your favourite Dragon?
A huge choice between Dratini and Flygon ... Leaning towards Dratini

Should Garchomp and/or Salamence be Uber?
Sorry, don't competitive battle so don't really know

Lance vs. Clair?
Lance - I loved him as Champ back in Pokemon Crystal though in HG he was so easy to beat -.-

Drayden vs. Iris?
Iris 'nuff said

Which Dragon looks best in its shiny form?
Gyarados - Red gyarados was like my best friend back in Crystal

Which is your favourite forme of Giratina? 'Origin' or 'Altered'?
Mnn... tough choice. I like both of them for particular reasons. I guess I like the 'Altered' version more though.

Should Tyranitar be a Dragon?
Mnn, sure? I guess? idk. :(

Should Altaria be a Dragon?
Well I do say looks can be deceiving - In other words yes, yes altaria should be a dragon

Favourite legendary Dragon?
LUGIA - G/S/C/HG/SS FANDOM!

Reshiram or Zekrom?
Zekrom - Of course since Electric is my favorite type <3

What is your opinion on Druddigon?
It's an interesting pokemon I have to say, reminds me of a digimon though


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