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Ho-Oh June 21st, 2011 9:48 PM

imma evolve my petilil into a ferocious dragon
 
'cause I love stalking other people's conversations loool.

Kay, we have a thread discussing whether B/W should've had evolutions/pre-evolutions for previous generation Pokemon, but not one for Black and White Pokemon specifically and their evolution lines.

Do any Unova Pokemon need evolutions (that don't have any) in your opinion? If so, which ones and why? If you want, you can also discuss the potential evolutions here too. Do you think some evolutions aren't necessary? Again, if so, which ones? On that note, too, how do you feel about the fact that a pretty large portion of Unova Pokemon do have evolutionary lines? As for the current evolutions, could you swap any with others as far as evolutions go? Share your thoughts regarding Unova's evolutionary lines!

Tryyyyy not to discuss the designs here, 'cause we have a thread mainly for the overall designs, thoughts, etc.

Oryx June 21st, 2011 9:50 PM

Liepard needs an evolution, it bothers me so much that it doesn't have one. Purrloin is the cat equivalent to Lillipup in the beginning, and because you'll probably catch one or the other, they should be similar in evolutionary lines. >:/

champagnepapi June 21st, 2011 9:59 PM

I was shocked when I found out Musharna didn't evolve. I was expecting it to have a really tough to beat [in-game] final evolution that looked like an Elephant, Munna, while cute, never found a spot on my team because of this very reason. Nintendo should be ashamed of themselves for letting Musharna stay as is. >:/

Sydian June 21st, 2011 10:33 PM

If you evolve Petilil into a dragon, I will come to your house and Razor Leaf the crap out of you.

Anyway, uhhh. I think there should have been an electric monkey, but oh well, that's what trios are for right? That's not an evo, what am I saying... I agree with Toujours though. Liepard needs an evo...that doesn't suck. :D

WishCookie June 22nd, 2011 1:22 AM

I think Audino, Whimsicott, Basculin and Maractus should have evovles :S

Oryx June 22nd, 2011 1:27 AM

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Originally Posted by WishCookie (Post 6707044)
I think Audino, Whimsicott, Basculin and Maractus should have evovles :S

Why those Pokemon? What kind of evolutions are you looking for? Would Lilligant get an evolution as well to match Whimsicott? Would the evolutions of Basculin still have different forms? Would an Audino evolution give omgmostexperienceever?

Elaborate please :)

Tropical Sunlight June 22nd, 2011 2:30 AM

Audino could evolve into something stronger, and Throh and Sawk have to be releated somehow. Perhaps Klinklang can evolve and introduce the first 3rd stage Pokemon? But all the others don't need any evolutions, I think. We'll see! :D

NatureKeeper June 22nd, 2011 2:31 AM

The generation is good as it is. Although I'd like it if Lilligant can evolve. I am not that fond of Lv1 evolutions unless they are powerful enough, like Zoroark or Lucario.

WishCookie June 22nd, 2011 4:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Toujours (Post 6707048)


Why those Pokemon? What kind of evolutions are you looking for? Would Lilligant get an evolution as well to match Whimsicott? Would the evolutions of Basculin still have different forms? Would an Audino evolution give omgmostexperienceever?

Elaborate please :)

Audino could evovle to something more stronger just like chansey evolved to blissy. Audino is the only healing pokemon that doesn't evolve.

Sweet Candace June 22nd, 2011 4:55 AM

I say Pokemon like Liepard, Maractus, Heatmor and Durant could use evolutions.

Amore June 22nd, 2011 5:22 AM



Heatmor and Durant? Pre-evos only, they're pretty tough. Particularly Durant in-game. Made levelling up my Frillish ridiculously hard. But I could definitely see a pre-evo for Durant. After all, Durant's pokédex entry says "They attack in groups, covering themselves in steel armor to protect themselves from Heatmor." (Which ironically doubles their weakness). This could imply that they evolved from a pure Bug-type?

Weavile05 June 22nd, 2011 6:36 AM

Liepard did need an evolution, as has been said before me. It just sucks too much.
However, I disagree with Whimsicott and Lilligant needing an evolution. I've used Whimsicott, It's a beast, and I'm currently using Lilligant, and it doesn't seem too bad so far.
I believe Heatmor could use a prevo. It just has so much potential for a good one.
I think that Larvesta and Volcarona's evolutions should have been handled a bit differently. Their movesets are completely different, and it evolves at the ridiculously high level of 59.

deoxys121 June 22nd, 2011 7:39 AM

I think the Deino/Zweilous/Hydreigon evo chain should have been handled in the same way the Dragonite and Tyranitar chains were. That is, Deino evolving at level 30, and Zweilous evolving at level 55. I think evolving at level 50, and then level 64 is much too high. Level 64 means Zweilous won't evolve until well into the post-game if you have it at around level 50 when you fight the E4 for the first time.

As far as adding evolutions, I think Stunfisk should evolve. First of all, I think Stunfisk is underrated because of its appearance, and though it is a "derp" Pokemon, it's actually not bad in battle, due to its decent defensive and special attack stats. Anyway, as far as an evolution, I would think perhaps a large, electrified mud-skipper, which is a fish that can go on land. Perhaps a name like "Stunskip". I honestly believe that we may see an evo for Stunfisk in future generations.

Also, the Woobat/Swoobat chain seems to me like a Unova equivalent of Zubat/Golbat/Crobat. Therefore, I think they should match in the number of evolutions. Swoobat's base stats are somewhat low, and to me are just begging for an evolution. Perhaps its evolution would be similar to Crobat in the sense that it is much more quick and agile. Also, since Woobat evolves through happiness, I would think Swoobat would evolve through the use of a newly-introduced evolutionary stone in a future generation, similar to the fact that they introduced new stones in Generation IV.

Golden Warrior June 22nd, 2011 7:45 AM

Alamolamola could have used an evolution. Same with Durrant. And, in my opinion, a new eveelution could have been made.

Ho-Oh June 22nd, 2011 8:01 AM

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Originally Posted by deoxys121 (Post 6707486)
As far as adding evolutions, I think Stunfisk should evolve. First of all, I think Stunfisk is underrated because of its appearance, and though it is a "derp" Pokemon, it's actually not bad in battle, due to its decent defensive and special attack stats. Anyway, as far as an evolution, I would think perhaps a large, electrified mud-skipper, which is a fish that can go on land. Perhaps a name like "Stunskip". I honestly believe that we may see an evo for Stunfisk in future generations.

Also, the Woobat/Swoobat chain seems to me like a Unova equivalent of Zubat/Golbat/Crobat. Therefore, I think they should match in the number of evolutions. Swoobat's base stats are somewhat low, and to me are just begging for an evolution. Perhaps its evolution would be similar to Crobat in the sense that it is much more quick and agile. Also, since Woobat evolves through happiness, I would think Swoobat would evolve through the use of a newly-introduced evolutionary stone in a future generation, similar to the fact that they introduced new stones in Generation IV.

Hahahaha a Stunfisk evolution would be ugly, but! Either they go with "oh let's keep it as it is, since it's become a meme" or on the off chance that game freak does care about Stunfisk, they'll give it an evolution to throw the heat off it.

Nooooo, Swoobat and Woobat are perfect as they are. But if they MUST evolve, maybe a new method and not a stone, 'cause I don't like the idea of bats evolving via stones.

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Originally Posted by WishCookie (Post 6707220)
Audino could evovle to something more stronger just like chansey evolved to blissy. Audino is the only healing pokemon that doesn't evolve.

Sadly, I see that happening in future games. Tbh Audino is fine on its own. :( But no doubt you'll probably be right, lol.

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Originally Posted by NatureKeeper (Post 6707087)
The generation is good as it is. Although I'd like it if Lilligant can evolve. I am not that fond of Lv1 evolutions unless they are powerful enough, like Zoroark or Lucario.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sydian (Post 6706911)
If you evolve Petilil into a dragon, I will come to your house and Razor Leaf the crap out of you.

Petilil > Crimgan tbh, totally logical.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karpman (Post 6706886)
I was shocked when I found out Musharna didn't evolve. I was expecting it to have a really tough to beat [in-game] final evolution that looked like an Elephant, Munna, while cute, never found a spot on my team because of this very reason. Nintendo should be ashamed of themselves for letting Musharna stay as is. >:/

Musharna seems perfectly strong to me, tho. I don't see why it should be made uglier ;__;

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Originally Posted by Toujours (Post 6706880)
Liepard needs an evolution, it bothers me so much that it doesn't have one. Purrloin is the cat equivalent to Lillipup in the beginning, and because you'll probably catch one or the other, they should be similar in evolutionary lines. >:/

Yeees, agreed. I don't really know why they didn't make an evolution for it tbh, maybe lack of ideas design-wise? Though if anything, I'd see it as a third evolution with something in the middle, when you consider Stoutland's size. :x

deoxys121 June 22nd, 2011 8:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6707514)
Musharna seems perfectly strong to me, tho. I don't see why it should be made uglier ;__;

Also, bear in mind that Munna evolves into Musharna with a Moon Stone. So far, every Pokemon that evolves with an evolutionary stone evolves into a final form. Therefore, I don't believe Musharna will ever get an evolution. If anything, Munna might get a branched evolution, in my opinion, and evolve into a different Pokemon by a different method.

Oryx June 22nd, 2011 8:48 AM

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Originally Posted by deoxys121 (Post 6707541)


Also, bear in mind that Munna evolves into Musharna with a Moon Stone. So far, every Pokemon that evolves with an evolutionary stone evolves into a final form. Therefore, I don't believe Musharna will ever get an evolution. If anything, Munna might get a branched evolution, in my opinion, and evolve into a different Pokemon by a different method.

Ooh, that's an interesting observation. But what would it branch into that would make it different? Maybe a Psychic/Dark Nightmare Munna kind of thing...

Mew~ June 22nd, 2011 8:48 AM

I think Deerling should have a branched evolution, maybe into something a bit more feminine, kind of like Kirlia, only evolving into the certain Pokémon by a certain gender.

PlatinumDude June 22nd, 2011 9:11 AM

I think that each of Basculin's forms deserves an evolved form. Sure, its stats are decent, but I think the red Basculin can evolve into something that has higher Attack, but lower Special Attack and Speed, while the blue Basculin has an evolved form with higher Special Attack and Speed.

Also, Emolga might need an evolved form since its offenses are pretty meh.

Palkia June 22nd, 2011 9:16 AM

Scrafty could have a nice evolution with event better stats. It's unlikely, but who expected Rhyhorn to get a evo?

Also Emolga needs a evolution in order for it to be useful at all.

Esper June 22nd, 2011 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toujours (Post 6706880)
Liepard needs an evolution, it bothers me so much that it doesn't have one. Purrloin is the cat equivalent to Lillipup in the beginning, and because you'll probably catch one or the other, they should be similar in evolutionary lines. >:/

I hadn't thought of this, but it makes complete sense if you want to have more balance in the game, especially with all the groupings/pairings that come early in the game like Sawk/Throh, Venipede/Sewaddle, and the monkey trio.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mew~ (Post 6707584)
I think Deerling should have a branched evolution, maybe into something a bit more feminine, kind of like Kirlia, only evolving into the certain Pokémon by a certain gender.

Sawsbuck already is a branched evolution.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ June 22nd, 2011 12:36 PM

Do any Unova Pokemon need evolutions (that don't have any) in your opinion?
well yeah, of course!
If so, which ones and why?
Every generation beforehand (excluding the 1st introduced a pre evolution or an evolution of a previous generation Pokemon
Do you think some evolutions aren't necessary?
Yes,
Again, if so, which ones?
Well I was shocked that Luvdisc does not evolve into ALOMOMOLA and that Tauros does not evolve into BOUFFALANT
On that note, too, how do you feel about the fact that a pretty large portion of Unova Pokemon do have evolutionary lines?
Well it's a good thing, It's always has been like that in the generations before hand, so it would only make sense if they continue to do that in Generation Five
As for the current evolutions, could you swap any with others as far as evolutions go?
No, I just feel that Luvdisc should evolve into Alomomola and Tauros should evolve into Bouffalant


:t354:TG

ElectricScyther June 22nd, 2011 12:41 PM

With Throh and Sawk imitating how Hitmonlee and Hitmonchan were originally laid out, I wouldn't be surprised if it got a pre-evo next gen.

Although, Emolga is completely useless without an evo. Basculin is almost the same way, although I'm surprised at how good its stats are.

Pokemon Trainer Touko June 22nd, 2011 1:43 PM

Stunfisk should totally have a branched evolution. :>
Yanakkie, Boakkie, Hiyakkie, Tabunne, Emonga and Lepardas needs an evo too. They suck. :v

xhainingx June 22nd, 2011 7:06 PM

sawk and throh could've come from the same baby pokemon, and basculin could've used an evolution. It's kind of a filler as is


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