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Oryx June 23rd, 2011 1:33 AM

United States of Pokemon
 
The UNited States OV America

So obviously everyone knows by now that the region of Unova is based off of New York City. There are obvious correlations, such as Castelia = Manhattan, but what about the other areas in the region that are less obscure, do they belong in and make sense or not? A desert in NYC?! On another note, how do you feel about the idea of Pokemon branching out of Japan in general? Is it a good way to keep the game going, or does it ruin the charm? Will the future hold Gamefreak exploring America like they used several regions of Japan in a row, or even more branching out?

Discuss:
-What areas correlate to real areas (forest, desert, mountains, beaches)
-The idea of America as a Pokemon region

Kotowari June 23rd, 2011 2:42 AM

I don't really mind that the Pokémon world is branching out to the rest of the world. It shows that the Pokémon world is actually a "world" and not a region on it's own. While playing I don't really think "ooh, I'm walking around in this or that city", but I keep focused and the region as it's own entity, regardless of where it's counterpart in the real world is.
To me, the Pokémon world, no matter how similar to ours, will always be a world on its own.

I don't have any feeling with America, or New York specifically, so it doesn't feel as "familiar" as it does for people who've actually been there. Now if Pokémon would relocate to a certain part of Europe, that might be something else. ;3
The fact that different parts of nature (like the desert, forests, mountains) appear where their counterpart in the real world shows an entirely different view, is only natural for a Pokémon game. Different types require different environments.

As for the future, I wouldn't mind if the Pokémon world would eventually cover our world. It would, for me, be quite amusing and quite an achievement for GF.

Gymnotide June 23rd, 2011 3:26 AM

I sincerely question why they decided to put the Pokemon League in the Bronx.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ June 26th, 2011 5:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 6708951)
I sincerely question why they decided to put the Pokemon League in the Bronx.

What is wrong with the Bronx? (not saying that because thats my hometown) but The Bronx is the upper most borough in New York City and the Pokemon league is the upper most place in Unova.


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Zayin June 26th, 2011 8:23 AM

I must say it annoys me all the first regions were based in Japan. I would have preffered them to be in a completly imaginary part of the world. It bother me because many characters don't look Japanese at all. For instance, Misty is a red-head with green eyes. No way she's Japanese :P. Same goes for Jessie. I can understand the producers to be patriotic, but I believe it would have made more sense if the Pokemon world was completely apart from ours.

竜の子 June 26th, 2011 8:37 AM

The desert was mostly because of *be silenced*

Because of *keep a suspence silence* 9/11

And the woods.etc. was to make the normal setup

Butterfree-Charizard June 26th, 2011 9:02 AM

Well I think it seems based the entire state of New York as well, but they made it into the size of New York City. Where the desert comes from I have know Idea. I like the idea of branching out from Japan. I personally want to see them make one based on Europe, with towns based on England, Holland, Germany, Italy, Slovakia, Romania (vampire pokemon?) and Russia. The Pokemon league could be in Sweden!

竜の子 June 26th, 2011 9:43 AM

As I said it was probably because of 9/11 bu tyeah,I'd like to see one based on Brasil.Tropical area swould be nice

Zayin June 26th, 2011 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Butterfree-Charizard (Post 6714410)
Well I think it seems based the entire state of New York as well, but they made it into the size of New York City. Where the desert comes from I have know Idea. I like the idea of branching out from Japan. I personally want to see them make one based on Europe, with towns based on England, Holland, Germany, Italy, Slovakia, Romania (vampire pokemon?) and Russia. The Pokemon league could be in Sweden!

There are movies based in Europe though. Pokemon Heroes happens in Venice and Zoroark in Holland and Belgium I believe.

Oryx June 26th, 2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 竜の子 (Post 6714458)
As I said it was probably because of 9/11 bu tyeah,I'd like to see one based on Brasil.Tropical area swould be nice

The 9/11 thing is just a rumor :x It's not in the right area to be 9/11, and other than the idea that there are ruined buildings and construction there, there's no other similarities. There are more ruined buildings than 2. There's an entire ruined temple (Relic Castle), not business buildings. The ruins are thousands of years old, not a decade or so. And they were caused by a natural disaster, not a person or people. The desert is there because Gamefreak wanted an area for Ground types before the Electric gym.

And I believe that Pinwheel is Forest Park in Queens, but I can't really prove that one way or the other. If you look to the right of Manhatten on a map and slightly south like Pinwheel, the two parks in that area are Flushing Meadows and Forest. It makes slightly more sense imo for Forest Park to be conveyed as a forest, so. That's my analysis of it.

Of course, I don't think everything is perfectly set where it belongs so I could be entirely off and the forest could be like the desert, just there to be there.

Ho-Oh June 27th, 2011 8:21 PM

I like that it's based on somewhere other than Japan, really. Because for one, it makes it kinda more realistic to a western um, what's the word, audience? Yeah something like that. The fact that we can kinda relate to the region better because it mostly associates with things we know in general (aka vending machines lol and other things I can't remember) we can kinda enjoy the games better for that reason. As for future games, probably other countries imo they'll be based on :x

jigglyppuff8 June 27th, 2011 8:38 PM

The first four gens all being located in "Japan" and all shared each others Pokemon. Kanto Pokemon were in Sinnoh, Hoenn Pokemon could be found in Johto, and so on.
Unova is located in "The United States of America". As such, one wouldn't expect to see too many Japanese Pokemon as I'm sure that most of us don't see too many Japanese people in comparison to European Caucasians. So it kind of makes sense how that there were only Unova Pokemon in the first part of the game yet how everybody knows about other Pokemon like Pikachu. I can see Game Freak continuing this "Pokemon in America" concept. And having Swoobats, Roggenrolas, and Frillish in the next region since if they would be in the same country.

Eucliffe June 27th, 2011 9:31 PM

What about Emolgas? Gotta have their Pika lookalike, even if it doesn't evolve or anything.

I wanna speculate that Nimbasa is based off of Coney Island, because if I recall correctly, Coney Island was (and might still be) an amusement park sort of place?

If Pokemon does continue (which I suppose it probably will), I would love to see it reach out to other places, especially ones with a terrible economy. You never know, basing regions off said locations might inspire people to travel to those places, and maybe they'll end up helping the economy and all this other world peace stuff ^______^ /a girl can dream, can't she? ;;

Oryx June 27th, 2011 9:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Roswell (Post 6716908)
I wanna speculate that Nimbasa is based off of Coney Island, because if I recall correctly, Coney Island was (and might still be) an amusement park sort of place?

If Pokemon does continue (which I suppose it probably will), I would love to see it reach out to other places, especially ones with a terrible economy. You never know, basing regions off said locations might inspire people to travel to those places, and maybe they'll end up helping the economy and all this other world peace stuff ^______^ /a girl can dream, can't she? ;;

I'd say you're probably right in that guess (Yeah Coney Island is an amusement park area), but I also think it has parts of Broadway which is in Manhattan. So they definitely mixed and matched a bit xD;;

That would make for a fascinating game tbh, one where you were literally exploring a new region, helping forge a path and helping people set up towns and settle down and such so you basically create the region from the ground up during the game. :3

JimJams June 28th, 2011 12:37 AM

I was reminded of places ranging from England to San Francisco...It's extremely varied.


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