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Kroso August 1st, 2011 11:32 AM

Heck yes I would,I never really got the chance,to fully enjoy yellow,I only played it for 20 minutes,so that would be so amazing,though I hope they don't add the current trading when have today,but just make it abit diffrent.

Xander Olivieri August 1st, 2011 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Eпvy (Post 6732452)

Your post honestly doesn't make any sense to me.

FR/LG only account for Red/Blue, yet HG/SS account for Gold/Silver and Crystal somehow? I know that HG/SS incorporated some of Crystal's features, but there are still differences, particularly in the female protagonist.

Yellow will never get a "remake" because Nintendo doesn't seem to care to remake the third edition of each game.

The only difference between Crystal and Gold/Silver was that you chased Suicune around the region rather than having to meet one of the two great birds. HeartGold and SoulSilver added Suicune's story into the main Gold and Silver story so HG/SS covers all three games from that Generation. So there really isn't a need for a new Crystal as it was added in with HG/SS.

SoopahScizor August 2nd, 2011 6:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 6717658)
True, but the whole idea of the eShop is to release older games for older consoles such as the GB, besides some people prefere the older to the remakes.

I agree 100%, I played the older games before the remakes. I prefer the older games to the remakes (I do like FRLG though)

DowntownDumpling August 2nd, 2011 11:31 AM

I hope Nintendo does, but I doubt they will. They tend to assume that all Pokemon fans only play the latest games, and they probably expect everyone to have forgotten all about Kanto, and to only remember Johto because of the recent release of HeartGold and SoulSilver. It's all about the "latest and greatest." Have you ever wondered why we don't have Stadium 1 and 2 on the Wii Virtual Console?

Eurydice August 3rd, 2011 7:54 AM

i would love to have them on the eshop. i would buy them all instantly. i love those games but i always have to go find my gameboy if i want to play them. plus on the 2nd gen the battery is dead so i get that annoying message all the time

blue August 3rd, 2011 8:25 AM

It would be a great idea, plus it would be VERY popular & bring in alot of cash.

Mew~ August 3rd, 2011 8:40 AM

Actually, I don't see why they couldn't put in R/S/E now, seeing as GBA games have now been confirmed, I think it would be a good idea if they could release them to try to promote the future remakes. (that is if there are going to be some)

Harmonie August 3rd, 2011 2:11 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6778613)
The only difference between Crystal and Gold/Silver was that you chased Suicune around the region rather than having to meet one of the two great birds.

Not true, Crystal added many other things. Like the female trainer, which is major for me.

Yellow was an game playing on the anime's massive popularity back at that time. I don't think too many people would have been happy if they had made FR/LG resemble Yellow/the anime.

Marilynasol August 3rd, 2011 7:07 PM

I'm sorry, but a release on the eShop will never happen. eShop games can't communicate with one-another, and the pinnacle of the main series of Pokemon games is the connectivity features. Pokemon simply wouldn't be Satoshi Tariji's vision of they were to nix Pokemon trading. Also, introducing the old games in their old format again would financially hurt Gamefreak. Strategically, having poor technology during the time of manufacturing Generation I, II, and to a lesser extent, III games, is really working out in Gamefreak's favor. Not only are those games likely to break (or the systems they play on- who wasn't bummed when the Nintendo DS was no longer backwards compatible with Game Boy and Game Boy Color Games, and infuriated that the Nintendo DSi didn't even have a Game Boy Advanced slot?), but the few games that still do work (and the rare few that are still in mint condition) will exponentially raise in value. Sure, Pokemon trainers from the 90's will miss the 16-bit graphics, crudely-designed Pokemon sprites, and eerie Lavender Town 16-bit music, but newer usually means better.

And I have to say, Gamefreak is getting a lot better at revamping remakes. Compare FireRed and LeafGreen to HeartGold and SoulSilver. When I was younger, I had no reason to buy FireRed. But, upon the release of HeartGold, it was a must-have now that they included new Pokemon, new areas, and especially the long sought-after feature of having your Pokemon follow you around in the overworld.

U.Flame August 3rd, 2011 8:52 PM

I emulate the 1st through 3rd generations perfectly on my PSP, so I don't need to buy them if they were released. But it would still be good for people without PSPs. Releasing the 1st and 2nd generations would show they care, so it'd be nice.

I heard they will also (or already have) make old games 3Dified. So I think they can make small edits. It'd be a stretch, but I can imagine they will emulate the link cable with wireless communication. Only time will tell.

Harmonie August 3rd, 2011 9:32 PM

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Originally Posted by U_Flame (Post 6783675)
I emulate the 1st through 3rd generations perfectly on my PSP, so I don't need to buy them if they were released. But it would still be good for people without PSPs. Releasing the 1st and 2nd generations would show they care, so it'd be nice.

I have a PSP, but I'm not going to do such illegal things. (Not trying to sound like a snob, I just want to point that out.)

And yeah, Nintendo's taking a lot of liberties with their 3D Classics line. It's been announced that the NES games that are coming in the Ambassador's program will have multiplayer. I've heard they aren't even a part of the 3D Classics line?

I don't see why Nintendo couldn't work something out for the Pokemon games. Pokemon games have always been a must-have for every Nintendo portable. It would just seem flat out odd if they weren't included.

For me, if I hadn't gotten Pokemon Red, I seriously doubt I would have ever taken portable consoles seriously. Pokemon games pretty much made portable gaming for me. So them not being added on there would just flat out be wrong. If they can do this connectivity for NES games on the 3DS, than they can do it for Pokemon.

Xander Olivieri August 3rd, 2011 9:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Eпvy (Post 6783070)


Not true, Crystal added many other things. Like the female trainer, which is major for me.

Yellow was an game playing on the anime's massive popularity back at that time. I don't think too many people would have been happy if they had made FR/LG resemble Yellow/the anime.

And Female characters have been a pickable gender ever since. Which is in Heart Gold and Soul Silver so yes Crystal was in Heart Gold and Soul Silver. Which means there isn't any point in a re-release other than for nostalgia.

...And on the topic of Yellow...I suddenly fear the 3rd copy to Gen 5 is gunna be another Anime spoof. Sorry off topic ending.

LyokoGirl5000 August 3rd, 2011 9:58 PM

Yes, definitely. I want to be able to play my old favorites! I just hope they release them exactly as they were. They'll probably remove Missingno. and other glitches, but I can dream.

U.Flame August 3rd, 2011 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Eпvy (Post 6783729)
I have a PSP, but I'm not going to do such illegal things.

It's not illegal if you own the system and games. Homebrew itself is a touchy subject, but it's not illegal.

Harmonie August 4th, 2011 7:22 AM

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Originally Posted by U_Flame (Post 6783859)
It's not illegal if you own the system and games. Homebrew itself is a touchy subject, but it's not illegal.

No, it is illegal. I don't want to turn this into a debate. I'll just say you can argue whether it is ethical or not, but the
legality is not up for debate.

Late August 4th, 2011 11:23 PM

Of course I'd like to see older Pokémon games on eShop! Why not?

@emberjed: HG/SS included Kanto too, so the region isn't forgotten. And I'm pretty sure that they know the older Pokémon games still sell enough. My cousin who haven't ever played Pokémon (as he only watched anime and got bored) would like to try Pokémon games because many of people like them but he doesn't want to start with newer games as they have too many Pokémon, he only remembers half(?) of the original, so he's now waiting for R/B/Y to be released in eShop.
And then, the Stadium games. I think they aren't in VC because you can't connect GB/C games to them to have your own team, you would have to use rented Pokémon. When the older Pokémon games come, I hope that they'll release Stadiums on VC and make a way to trade between them but that is the thing that will never come true.

Xander Olivieri August 5th, 2011 6:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Marilynasol (Post 6783529)
I'm sorry, but a release on the eShop will never happen. eShop games can't communicate with one-another, and the pinnacle of the main series of Pokemon games is the connectivity features. Pokemon simply wouldn't be Satoshi Tariji's vision of they were to nix Pokemon trading. Also, introducing the old games in their old format again would financially hurt Gamefreak. Strategically, having poor technology during the time of manufacturing Generation I, II, and to a lesser extent, III games, is really working out in Gamefreak's favor. Not only are those games likely to break (or the systems they play on- who wasn't bummed when the Nintendo DS was no longer backwards compatible with Game Boy and Game Boy Color Games, and infuriated that the Nintendo DSi didn't even have a Game Boy Advanced slot?), but the few games that still do work (and the rare few that are still in mint condition) will exponentially raise in value. Sure, Pokemon trainers from the 90's will miss the 16-bit graphics, crudely-designed Pokemon sprites, and eerie Lavender Town 16-bit music, but newer usually means better.

And I have to say, Gamefreak is getting a lot better at revamping remakes. Compare FireRed and LeafGreen to HeartGold and SoulSilver. When I was younger, I had no reason to buy FireRed. But, upon the release of HeartGold, it was a must-have now that they included new Pokemon, new areas, and especially the long sought-after feature of having your Pokemon follow you around in the overworld.

They can communicate with each other. Tested it out with a friend. We bought one of the Multiplayer DSI ware games and were able to play together. Those were of course wireless connection features. There are a few games that can communicate through Wifi if you read their descriptions in the store.

The main issue would be can the Pokemon Games communicate? It most likely won't be too hard to add a wifi code to the old ones similar to Fire Red/Leaf Green's wireless code so that you can still trade.

Late August 5th, 2011 8:15 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 6786045)
They can communicate with each other. Tested it out with a friend. We bought one of the Multiplayer DSI ware games and were able to play together. Those were of course wireless connection features. There are a few games that can communicate through Wifi if you read their descriptions in the store.

The main issue would be can the Pokemon Games communicate? It most likely won't be too hard to add a wifi code to the old ones similar to Fire Red/Leaf Green's wireless code so that you can still trade.

Of course the DSiWare games can communicate as they're the same games as for DSi but I think Marilynasol was talking about VC games.

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Originally Posted by Marilynasol (Post 6783529)
I'm sorry, but a release on the eShop will never happen. eShop games can't communicate with one-another, and the pinnacle of the main series of Pokemon games is the connectivity features. Pokemon simply wouldn't be Satoshi Tariji's vision of they were to nix Pokemon trading. Also, introducing the old games in their old format again would financially hurt Gamefreak. Strategically, having poor technology during the time of manufacturing Generation I, II, and to a lesser extent, III games, is really working out in Gamefreak's favor. Not only are those games likely to break (or the systems they play on- who wasn't bummed when the Nintendo DS was no longer backwards compatible with Game Boy and Game Boy Color Games, and infuriated that the Nintendo DSi didn't even have a Game Boy Advanced slot?), but the few games that still do work (and the rare few that are still in mint condition) will exponentially raise in value. Sure, Pokemon trainers from the 90's will miss the 16-bit graphics, crudely-designed Pokemon sprites, and eerie Lavender Town 16-bit music, but newer usually means better.

And I have to say, Gamefreak is getting a lot better at revamping remakes. Compare FireRed and LeafGreen to HeartGold and SoulSilver. When I was younger, I had no reason to buy FireRed. But, upon the release of HeartGold, it was a must-have now that they included new Pokemon, new areas, and especially the long sought-after feature of having your Pokemon follow you around in the overworld.

They can't communicate, yet. Nintendo is going to add NES games to 3DS Virtual Console and those games will include multiplayer mode through wireless when they are available to everyone. Those who get them free can update their versions to multiplayer versions for free. I don't see a reason why they wouldn't be able to do the same to GB/C games. For now there isn't much of a reason to have multiplayer GB/C games as there's only Tennis and Double Dragon with two-player mode so I'm pretty sure they'll add multiplayer when they are about to release games that really need that.
And GB and GBC were 8-bit handhelds, SNES is 16-bit console.

Harmonie August 5th, 2011 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Late (Post 6786200)
They can't communicate, yet. Nintendo is going to add NES games to 3DS Virtual Console and those games will include multiplayer mode through wireless when they are available to everyone. Those who get them free can update their versions to multiplayer versions for free. I don't see a reason why they wouldn't be able to do the same to GB/C games. For now there isn't much of a reason to have multiplayer GB/C games as there's only Tennis and Double Dragon with two-player mode so I'm pretty sure they'll add multiplayer when they are about to release games that really need that.
And GB and GBC were 8-bit handhelds, SNES is 16-bit console.

I agree, so much.

I can't believe there are people around saying that it absolutely won't happen because eShop games can not have multiplayer. I honestly don't think any of us would have expected those NES games to be able to link with each other. The same people would have said "That will never happen".

If they can do it with those NES games, and that Zelda Four Swords game they can definitely do it with Pokemon games. Knowing how popular they are, there's no saying they wouldn't think about going through that kind of effort to get them released.

To me, the eShop will be very incomplete if it doesn't have the Pokemon main games on them. As I said above, handheld gaming would have never been taken seriously by me if I hadn't got Pokemon Red.

Simmy93 August 5th, 2011 5:48 PM

I think the lack of trading would disappoint some people. Such as not being able to get Golem or Alakazam.

Chaos_Darkrai November 8th, 2013 4:32 PM

F*CK YES! They should indeed do this. They would be fools if they didn't, and would be missing out on absolutely TONS of cash. Do it nintendo, do it!


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