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Pokemon Fire Red: The Hard Version! Release
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Beta 6 Introduction http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/506717-darkrayquaza/717/56/pokeball_icon.gifHey guys! I'd like to introduce another (or improved) version of Pokémon Fire Red. This is kind of a mix between a 386 and a difficulty game. The minor features and changes implamented do not really change the characteriscits of the orignal game but do however enhance the difficulty and the enjoyment of the game! I have only been working on this for several days so the only assortments I have worked on so far are the battles this includes trainers, rivals, gyms, Elite Four ect. I promise you this game to be very challenging but fun! If this game gets positive feedback and becomes admired by users then I will go forth to adding new variables such as scripts, events and so on. For now however let's just call this "The Pilot" I have spent quite alot of my time dedicated to this hack and plan to carry on so please be respectable with feedback, thank-you. Features http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/506717-darkrayquaza/717/56/pokeball_icon.gif
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Meet May from Hoenn! ~ As your new rival she will battle you frequently! http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab208/Jowey2010/Pokemon-FireRedHardVersion_01.pnghttp://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab208/Jowey2010/Pokemon-FireRedHardVersion_04.pnghttp://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab208/Jowey2010/Pokemon-FireRedHardVersion_02.png Toolshttp://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/506717-darkrayquaza/717/56/pokeball_icon.gif XSE (eXtreme Script Editor) Pocketscript Advanced Map Advanced Text Advanced Trainer De-capitalization Patch Evolution Changeshttp://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/506717-darkrayquaza/717/56/pokeball_icon.gif Taillow > Swellow = Level 34 Swablu > Altaria = Level 38 Wingull > Pelipper = Level 30 Kadabra > Alakazam = Level 46 Machoke > Machamp = Level 50 Onix > Steelix = Level 49 Scyther > Scizor = Level 49 Hautner > Gengar = Level 44 Porygon > Porygon 2 = Level 44 Poliwhirl > Politoed = Level 46 Seadra > Kingdra = Level 48 Graveler > Golem = Level 50 Clamperl > Huntail = Level 45 Clamperl > Gorebyss = Water Stone Eevee > Espeon = Sun Stone Eevee > Umbreon = Happiness (Normal, No Day/Night) *Please note that some of these evolution changes are due to the stat changes and rarity in-game. Bugs & Glitcheshttp://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/506717-darkrayquaza/717/56/pokeball_icon.gif
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Beta 0.74 Length: 7 Gyms (Upto Two Island) Release Date: Thursday 22nd December 2011 23:11 GMT. Anyone who can create Support Bars or a decent Logo - Please PM/VM me! _________________________________ Want to create a trainer? Well you can! - Alls you need to do is Private Message me requesting what you want your trainer to be called, class, gender, location, team ect. and if it's acceptable, I will implament them into the game! There are restrictions of course, No Legendaries & no unsuitable teams for locations (Example ~ you cannot have a team of Level 50's on Route 3) Stat Changeshttp://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/506717-darkrayquaza/717/56/pokeball_icon.gif Please see document on stat changes archived in the RAR file! ~ Expceted for final release! |
First beta now released, test it & feedback, thanks :]
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i played it, it satifyed the need to make this game harder, as i beat firered in a week, ill keep an eye on it!
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Hey thanks, it becomes increasingly harder!
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Hard pokemons? That's what I'm looking for! Will definitely try it! ;)
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Which Emulator would you recommend?
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Visual Boy Advance (VBA) just Google it.
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Hey I thought game is pretty good. Got a couple things though.
1.Change the girl that you battle before you enter in the forest; oddish to at least a higher then the pokemon in the nearest grass. 2.Change Pichu to evolve to pikachu at any level between 10-30. 3.Change what the proffesor that upgrades your pokedex make him update it and leave somewhere. -not give you dream eater- 4.I like the fact that you can catch grass starters in the forest but it defeats the purpose of getting a Bulbasaur. lol. 5.I liked the game and I think you should continue it. |
Thanks for the feedback & I'll take it on board.
About the Oddish I changed that right after I made the release (now Level 8) which I think is suitable and about the professor, I was debating whether I should just leave him because well I'm not too strong on scripting but I don't really see a problem with teaching Dream Eater but if people wish for me to change I will. Regarding the Pichu & Pikachu evolution, with the next release I'm going to change it so that ALL Pokémon that are evolved via trade will be evolved by a certain level and I will change SOME happiness evolutions and leave some in because I know people like using happiness to evolve Pokémon. Finally, the starters, yeah I only wanted to put them in an early stage as a test because the beta does end at Pewter so I'm kinda limited to areas where to place them but I will relocate them to a later point in the game, like I said this was only a pilot so I was expecting some flaws with the game, I just wanted to see how it went down but again, thanks, I do intend to continue it. |
My VBA won't play the game, it keeps coming up with the message "Unsupported file type" I tried patching it to a clean Fire Red ROM but the VBA will just play the Fire Red game and not the hack. Am I doing anything wrong?
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Can you tell me where you got the de-capitalization patch? Thanks. Also, this game is not really hard. Can you update it?
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The levels of Gym Leaders increase majorly but I have been thinking of increasing Brocks levels.
Sorry, it was months ago that I downloaded it and I'm unable to locate it. |
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Ah right, well thanks for the feedback, I will increase Brocks levels for the next release, and possibly the other Gym Leaders but I dont think they need it because Misty reaches Level 30 and Level 30 for the second Gym is quite intense but yeah.
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Al right sweet! Estimated time for next release? -curious-
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Most probally tomorrow, or the day after, I've already changed everything to Cerulean, including trainers, gyms & Wild Pokemon.
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Nice! If you need help with beta testing I'm here!
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That's actually a good idea, the thought of beta testers some reason didn't occur to me, I'm testing it now but if you wanna try it out I can send you a link now?
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This Hack looks very good,I wonder how hard this would be to Nuzlocke....
Oh, and can I please be a Beta Tester too, if you need them? |
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I'm free Now,really. Nothing Important for me these days.
EDIT: I'm Playing the beta you gave me, and I see that Route 22 is completely Unedited. I went to battle my Rival (Demet, Dur)and His team was how it was before. and the grass still has what it had there. WHAT DID I FIND ON Mt.MOON? http://i.imgur.com/6YcVA.jpg |
I have PM'ed you the link to the Beta, thank-you.
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I'm a little concerned about the types for the rival's team. The speed team is heavily flying/electric based and the defensive team is heavily steel based. I don't mean to nitpick, but I think this makes the difficulty of the rival battles uneven. A team centered around Blastoise will be close to annihilated (which is good) whereas a team centered around Charizard might have too much of an advantage.
Of course I haven't taken a good luck at the move sets, so if you engineered those with this kind of thing in mind then forget I said anything. |
I played this and I fully love this. I am in full support of this hack.
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Dear Suicune,
On my way to cerulean city,I saw the black belt,so i healed my pokemon.Next thing I know, I'm controlling red,and he started where the Black belt was.I could only move in a 2x2 square, and i could not go back to Leaf, no matter what i do. http://i.imgur.com/1LWS5.jpg Oh,and the Green Hair Girl in the gym will not battle me. Did you put the script in? |
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Ok,thanks.
Don't forget that you left Route 22 Unedited(in my beta) Oh, and the 3rd Rival battle was too easy, Please try to buff it up. |
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Route 22 has been edited since. |
Awesome! I was thinking about doing something like this myself but it looks like you have spared me a lot of work and I am free to just play :) I wish you all the best luck on completing this little extension.
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I was looking for a hack like this *--* I still haven't played any Beta yet but I'm going to soon ^^
Are you changing the movesets? I was playing a hacked today and a Weezing keep using Destiny Bond, and when the PP ran out it used Memento... It must be hard to change the way the CPU acts so make sure you give many offensive moves to their pokes. Just a suggestion x) |
Say thanks! Yeah, don't worry the AI is smart enough for a reasonable battle, it wont be Destiny Bond after Destiny Bond.
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I was playing this again and I'm surprised how much the national dex pokemon and harder teams can really change the game. I am really looking foreward to the next beta. I would offer to be a beta tester but I think I would play the game more for enjoymeny rather than seek out bugs / help.
I know I posted before about how much I liked it and I don't want it to seem like I'm brown-nosing but I really enjoy this hack and can't wait for the next beta. |
I forgot to save after getting the SST,so I had to start back at Mt.moon :(.
BTW,some trainers you put into the game don't battle you and when you talk to them, they say something they would say when they lose (Like this one youngster on Route 25 who says "I'll get you next time"or something) I also wish Staryu came early :( (I'm not requesting that.) |
I like how you increased the difficulty, but I'd have loved it if he kept his Starter with him (if he had one).
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Looks intresting, might play it when I have the time to do it. I normally don't play hacks, but this looks intresting.
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This looks wicked fun! If you ever need any help with anything I'd love to help. Also I noticed there's a custom trainer section. Are you suggesting that we might be able to put our teams into this wonderful game in the near future? *faints*
EDIT: Oh, I didn't see the bottom........... I'M GOING TO PM YOU MY TEAM RIGHT NOW! |
Having some problems with the trainers regarding levels so the next beta may be pushed back slightly, I basically need to redo some of the trainers.
Won't take too long, hopefully! |
Re-released the Beta, it's the same length but the levels have been changed. The reason for this is people who played the previous beta ended up being overleveled by about 10, in the mid 20's and it was kinda messed up. However I have fixed this so it may seem easy at first but don't be put off, you'll notice it becoming increasingly harder!
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The new beta is out, check the OP!
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It looks good. Haven't tried it yet, but the new addition of trainers and added scripts will definitely put a new feel toward the game.
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Thank-you, I plan to add more as I progress.
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Alright, cool! But seriously, your game does interest me. Once you make a lot of progress, I'll promise to give it a try.
Good luck on your game. |
I could be a beta tester; I've done it for hacks in the past.
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Seems sweet. Will check it out
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Just killed Surge
Brock and Misty only had four |
Oh. My. GOD!!! My name's in the thread!! Thank you so much!! I would've played the beta earlier, but I was on a road trip. I'll go through everything and make the best team ever(probably modeling it of my ingame trainer's team :P).
EDIT: Could you change the trainer name on my guy to William? It sounds much more gentleman-like. EDIT EDIT: The optional battle with rival on route 23 is unchanged. Just so you know. |
Could I have a trainer? (Male)
Name & Class: Cool Trainer Caden Location: Victory Road Team: Electabuzz Gengar Alakazam Blastoise Pidgeot Sceptile |
I like it. Great job. I have full support for this hack. I'll be looking forward for more beta versions and most importantly the final version!
Also, I have an idea for a trainer. I will PM you the details. |
Yeah, I would like to know how to get a custom trainer on there as well. Do we have to finish the current beta? Or something like that? Just curious.
And if I do manage to get a character in here is what I like it to be: Cool Trainer Quinn Location: Nugget Bridge Pokemon: Seadra Level 23, Swellow Level 22, Raichu Level 23 and....(If I'm allowed to do a rematch thingy) Cool Trainer Quinn Location: Nugget Bridge Pokemon: Kingdra Level 44, Swellow Level 44, Raichu Level 44 and I'll download it now Sorry. It thought I posted it twice for some reason. and the trainer would be [Insert Male Symbol Here] Male |
Im really liking this. It's a challenge.
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Is it possible for my Custom Trainer to be edited? If it is, can you switch Zangoose with Blastoise and Typhlosion with Sceptile? My Trainer is Pokemon Trainer Collin and he should be on Victory Road or Route 11, depending on where you chose to put him.
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As I told you once before, this is probably the best 'FR enchancement' type of hack in this Showcase. I hope you finish it and when you do, then I'll play it. (yeah, I have faith that you WILL finish this)
I have some jotted downs some ideas that could add to the story/gameplay of FR from when I was experimenting with a 386 spin-off, so let me know if you'd like me to send you them through a PM. Best of luck with this one. |
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This looks very cool. I'm defiantly checking this out!
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Why does Eevee evolve into Umbreon at 55 but it evolves into espeon using the sun stone. I would rather it evolve with the moon stone for Umbreon.
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So it's different, having Umbreon evolve via a Moon Stone is easy. The majority of people choose Umbreon over Espeon and level 55 is a decent level for a good Pokémon, besides you obtain the Sun Stone much later in the game rather than the Moon.
I'm resuming work on the hack, hopefully I should be releasing the next Beta sometime next week which will go upto the 5th/6th Gym. I haven't worked on it for quite some time.. about a month so I'll have to get caught up and I will start to insert the custom trainers just make sure you have PM'ed me the details, thanks! |
wheres the link? I wanna play this game it sounds cool.
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The link or attatchment is at the bottom of the first post, click the attatchment to download it.
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I have a question, can we make multiple trainers? Because that would be awesome :3
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Right so I've got to take my Comptuer in for repair for a day or two so I may have a set back giving that my data is erased however I hopefully will be able to pick up where the beta ends so it will be a little while longer for the next beta, apologies for the delays!
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I CANNOT PLAY .IPS FORMAT FILE! GIVE ME THE .GBA FILE!
HOW COULDNT I PLAY THE GAME. ITS HAS DIFFERENT FORMAT. IT IS NOT IN ".GBA" FORMAT. IT IS IN ".IPS" FORMAT, SO I CANT OPEN IT WITH NO$GBA EMULATOR OR EVEN VISUAL BOY ADVANCE. WHAT SHOULD I DO? DONT YOU HAVE THE ".GBA" FORMAT FILE??? PLEASE SEND ME THE LINK. THANKS
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It looks interesting! I might try it! Could I also make a custom trainer in the game? (It's okay if you say no! ;))
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This looks brilliant, if I have the time I'll give this a go, I guess the wild starters is actually good, you'll need their stats and power to overcome this gam I can imagine.
Looks brilliant, keep it up. |
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great job dude :D
I need more ! ^^ i would like to test ur next beta too if u like greetings Naxxar |
Brock is really hard. Well when you have a chameleon and a Pichu anyway
EDIT:Here is a logo if you want it? http://www.pokecommunity.com/images/album_thumbs/60/bd4050639a23bf7524330bca578894ff_60604.png?dl=1318796788 http://www.pokecommunity.com/images/album_thumbs/60/d3115e96cf040b69640c7a1c423ac373_60611.png?dl=1318879602 |
That was exactly what was needed for the game be more fun. MORE DIFFICULT
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U MUST USE THIS LOGO! FOR THE LULZ |
After a long hiatus I've picked up where I left off, my motivation went out the window for this since the whole project went corrupt but I've been slowly fixing things getting it back to the way it was. I have spent most of today editing ALL the Pokémon in the areas of Kanto & Sevii Islands and all 386 are catchable (some through evolution) except from Starters & Legendaries which I plan to implement into an event of some sort. A new and updated release will be out soon so keep a look out!
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Heya, I've played through the Beta and I loved it! Too bad about you data, but it's really nice too see you aren't giving up.
One thing bothers me though... aren't some of the stat changes a bit over the top? I mean, It's okay to power up some underpowered Pokemon. But you can get perfectly balanced stats with a total between 480 ~ 500. |
If you need more custom trainers...
Name & Class: Expert Foxer Location: One of the islands on Route 21 Team: Kingdra Venomoth Aggron Dunsparce (but with an absurd moveset) |
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best box art ever :P |
Why are there ice types in Rock Tunnel? I'd recommend Rhyhorn, Teddiursa, Phanpy, Cubone (probably catchable in the ghost tower?), Khangaskhan, Dunsparce, and maybe even Ditto.
EDIT: Whismer would be good if you haven't already put it in there. |
Hey this looks good pls finish it i like how u modify it exelent hack but continue adding pokemon good work and goodluck in this hack
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Will try it now , thanks :D
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Check the OP! I have uploaded the latest Beta (Release 0.74) This goes all the way upto Two Island so that means you will be able to battle 7 gyms upto Blaine! ~ You'll notice a few changes that all the Pokemon have been edited to new locations, Gym Leaders teams intensfied and most importantly a new rival!
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I was playing beta 0.74 and found that route 9 is blocked, screenshot (I was using walk through wall to show it)
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I noticed that as I was editing yesterday, since then I've released a later version of 0.74 so just download that, patch it on your ROM and continue it should be fixed.
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Good job so far, Joe!
To answer what someone else said above, I believe since this is a 386 hack, the ice-type pokemon are correctly placed in rock tunnel, it's a great place to have some of them since they can't be practically out in the open-and only two ice caves are there in total. Good luck finishing this one as well! |
Thanks! that's true there are a limited amount of Ice Caves and more Ice types that can fit. I should be able to finish this quicker now as I've completed Expert Emerald asike some slight tweaks now and then.
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not sure if this was mentioned yet but both my taillow and swablu didnt evolve until three levels after when they were supposed to and im stuck in lavender town and i cant go down cuz the snorlax and i cant go left cuz its blocked off for some reason
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The stats of the evolutions have been raised therefore it's more of a challenge to evolve them which is more effort. Regarding the Lavender blockage problem I have mistakenly untouched the movement positions but I've fixed that and re-uploaded the patch so it should be fine now.
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How do I get rid of the guy that is standing in front of the lavender tower?
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That was intentional for a script later on however I decided to remove it to speed things up, just download the new beta and patch it and he should be removed.
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great game!! i love it haha. something i noticed: when you walk into the game corner in celadon city, you spawn in the middle of the room instead of in the door way.
also... where do you find stantler??? ;( i cant find him anywhere! anyways, awesome hack. i cant wait until the next beta comes out! |
This may be a lot of hard work but I think yo should make a document where you have a list of all the pokemon and where they could be found. Because I want to do a Let's Play of this game and I want to see different team options.
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I'll be playing this after my Expert Emerald run is complete. Unfortunately, said run is stalled at the moment due to grinding issues.
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I'm playing this, just finished 6th Badge, and I'm really liking it.
If you don't mind i'd like to add some more trainers to the game, mess around with it. Also there are quite a few unedited grunts especially in Silph Tower One Fisherman south of Lavender Town is unedited his name was Hank or something, also Scientist Ed (his name is the only one I remember.) |
Not sure if this has been asked but what level does Graveler evolve?
The document says 45 which i've passed and the thread says level 50 which i've passed. Could anyone help me out here? EDIT: Don't worry, it evolved level 51 :P Still this is a great and fun game. It's quite challenging. |
No major changes on the latest release aside some unedited trainers who are now edited, mostly Rocket Grunts at Silph Co. which I had a feeling would have some unedited around that area. I'm positive that at least 95% of all trainers up to and including Two Island have been completely edited!
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Also, I've fixed and swapped some levels for evolution round and corrected the errors regarding evolutions on the OP and the documentation, all levels are now correct. |
great one , i hope it will be finished soon :D
overall progress ? 80% ? :P |
Well it's upto Island Two so the main things that need to be done are: 8th Gym, Elite Four, Victory Road, Four-Seven Islands, Elite Four Rematches & Gym Rematches so I'd say around 70-80% yeah!
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Actually I have played Fire Red where I set up a National Dex in the beginning what will happen is that when you get to the Elite Four the door will be blocked, you will have to do the Lorelei/Team Rocket Warehouse story first before you face Elite Four.
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this is exactly the kind of rom I'm looking for!
quick question: If I were to start playing now, and then you release a new beta, can I patch the newer beta right over the old rom without losing my save? |
Yeah, if a later patch is released whilst your playing you can just patch over it without any errors.
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The two rocket grunts standing in the way at Two Island.
Is that the end of the beta or is there something to still do? |
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