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The Void August 1st, 2011 4:52 AM

Does PC have like a rival or something?
 
Well, there's the Bulbagarden Forums, which is pretty famous although I really didn't consider joining 'em. And there's also Serebii, which I think came earlier than this forums. And PokeBoard too. So, I was wondering, are they PC's "rivals" or are they partners with PC?

Nick August 1st, 2011 5:07 AM

I've always thought we were rather independent from other forums. I don't think we have a rival, though I'm sure many would argue that Serebii is PC's rival, I disagree.

Oryx August 1st, 2011 5:09 AM

From what I've seen, they're neither. They're separate forums with (mostly) separate people and separate goals in mind. PC doesn't actively compete with other Pokemon forums, but they generally don't actively work together for anything in particular either.

Zeffy August 1st, 2011 5:37 AM

Besides, the only rivalry I've seen between the mentioned forums are during the Pokemon competitive battling competitions. But in terms of the forum itself, I don't really think PC has, nor does it need, a rival.

Buoysel August 1st, 2011 6:16 AM

Bulbagarden has the Wiki, Serebii has the News/information stuff. PE2K has the game information and sprites. PokeCommunity is just the forums. So no rival.

In terms of numbers, PokeCommunity is the largest member wise, but not post wise.

In my experience with the first two, PC is more friendly, and the staff is much easier to talk to. (not to mention the themes here rock) So why would you want to be anywhere else?

Gymnotide August 1st, 2011 7:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Buoysel (Post 6778020)
Bulbagarden has the Wiki, Serebii has the News/information stuff. PE2K has the game information and sprites. PokeCommunity is just the forums. So no rival.

In terms of numbers, PokeCommunity is the largest member wise, but not post wise.

In my experience with the first two, PC is more friendly, and the staff is much easier to talk to. (not to mention the themes here rock) So why would you want to be anywhere else?

The description here is spot on. Since the other forums focus so much on their parent websites, they take on the qualities of it.

Bulbapedia is the go-to site for Pokemon-related anything, and the place where all the game research goes, so Bulbagarden focuses a lot on their Bulbawiki forum; they have some side threads, but their forum is very heavily based on discussing edits for their other site. Serebii seems to be very heavily Pokemon-related like their main site, with each Generation split into a whole different super-forum with smaller forums within it. Still, all the forums get posted in frequently, so I guess they're doing something right there. Obviously, Smogon is for competitive battling, etc.

And so on.

It just so happens that PokeCommunity doesn't have a master site to draw from--so, instead, it embodies everything. Rather than focusing on one aspect of Pokemon, it's gone off an incorporated a variety of topics such that half the board isn't even Pokemon-related. imho, it's nice--I'll never be bored with that :)

Though, apparently, PokeCommunity does have the largest community of ROM-hackers on the web, so I guess that does say something.

Dragonite Ernston August 1st, 2011 8:04 AM

PokéCommunity, from my experience, is an independent site, yes.

However, if you're looking at rivalry, from my experiences, Bulbagarden and Serebii have some sort of unsaid feud against each other. Although for all I know, it could be just in jest. But Bulbagarden and PC? No way.

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Originally Posted by Buoysel (Post 6778020)
In my experience with the first two, PC is more friendly, and the staff is much easier to talk to. (not to mention the themes here rock) So why would you want to be anywhere else?

In my experience, at least, the thing about "15 infractions making a permaban" seems to make a few people uneasy. (It would definitely make me uneasy. I have a habit of accruing trivial infractions, and I had about 10 or so in one year at Bulbagarden because I kept doing small things.)

Domo Genesis August 1st, 2011 8:10 AM

I just made a pokecommunity account 4 days ago so I could download some stuff from the hacks showcase. But I'm starting to prefer pokecommunity. Bulbagarden's staff are kind of intimidating. Besides that, they banned me because my signature had too many pixels in it. Serebii is alright, i guess. But it was kind of boring for me. But I don't really see a rivalry between the different websites. It would be awesome if there was one big tournament between all of them, though.

LightOfTruth August 1st, 2011 8:46 AM

The websites are for different purposes but this is the nicest one out of the 3 :D

Rukario August 1st, 2011 9:09 AM

We like to point out that PC is a forum based community for Pokemon fans more so than a Pokemon forum.

JX Valentine August 1st, 2011 9:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragonite Ernston (Post 6778131)
In my experience, at least, the thing about "15 infractions making a permaban" seems to make a few people uneasy. (It would definitely make me uneasy. I have a habit of accruing trivial infractions, and I had about 10 or so in one year at Bulbagarden because I kept doing small things.)

That's Bulbagarden's staff, though. PC's tends to be a little bit more laid-back to the point where most of them would rather just explain things to you instead of handing those out like candy, so if you do get that many infractions, you really screwed up somewhere along the line. In all my time on PC and after pulling quite a lot of crap, I've only gotten one infraction, and that was reversed after some discussion. Besides that? Nothing but stern talkings-to now and then.

Just remember that a difference in rules doesn't necessarily mean one community is harder to get along in than another. It all depends on the mods enforcing them, really.

Cherrim August 1st, 2011 9:29 AM

I think PC's rivals definitely used to be PE2K (especially after we merged and split up again) and then Serebii, but I agree that we've just sort of gone our own way these days. If there is one though, it's Serebii. But I think both forums have just learnt to ignore each other. :P

Dragonite Ernston August 1st, 2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JX Valentine (Post 6778245)
That's Bulbagarden's staff, though. PC's tends to be a little bit more laid-back to the point where most of them would rather just explain things to you instead of handing those out like candy, so if you do get that many infractions, you really screwed up somewhere along the line. In all my time on PC and after pulling quite a lot of crap, I've only gotten one infraction, and that was reversed after some discussion. Besides that? Nothing but stern talkings-to now and then.

I've gotten my share of stern talkings-to on Bulbagarden too. But yeah, to somebody who doesn't actually know the community well, it can be pretty intimidating.

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Just remember that a difference in rules doesn't necessarily mean one community is harder to get along in than another. It all depends on the mods enforcing them, really.
Mm hmm. That is true.

moon August 1st, 2011 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rukario (Post 6778220)
We like to point out that PC is a forum based community for Pokemon fans more so than a Pokemon forum.

This is so very true. This place is for people who like (or used to like) pokémon to talk... about anything.
Other similar forums are for any people to talk about pokémon, maybe :>

seeker August 1st, 2011 12:46 PM

Rivals? What would PC be competing for/against exactly?

Jared August 1st, 2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rukario (Post 6778220)
We like to point out that PC is a forum based community for Pokemon fans more so than a Pokemon forum.

Yeah I agree 100%, that's what keeps us apart from other forums.

JX Valentine August 2nd, 2011 7:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonite Ernston (Post 6778579)
But yeah, to somebody who doesn't actually know the community well, it can be pretty intimidating.

While this is a fair point, also note that a lot of the rules are pretty simple and easy to follow, hence why it's usually not that easy to get infractions around here. If you're intimidated by how many infractions = a banning, chances are, you're not really paying attention to what would get you an infraction. Granted, one could argue that the same logic could be applied to any other place's rules, but I guess the point is you really shouldn't be able to tell whether or not you'll be trampled all over just by its infraction clauses. The best way to tell whether or not a community is for you is, you know, to look at the community.

(And I really hope that didn't come off to anyone else as assy as it just did to me, but you get the point, right?)

In any case, I have to agree with what's already been said. I've never really thought of PC as having a rival, really, precisely because it's just a community. I mean, I can understand why Serebii and Bulbagarden (and whoever else is getting tangled in that love-hate relationship there) go at each other now and then: because they're trying to compete for who's got the biggest monopoly the best information site/community. PC just sort of hangs out on the outlier with pretty much every other forum because, just like there's no real other forum that's competing with Smogon to be the best competitive battling site or with PE2K/TCoD to be the best creative site (on a serious level, anyway), PC is just pretty much PC.

Melody August 2nd, 2011 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JX Valentine (Post 6778245)
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Originally Posted by Dragonite Ernston (Post 6778131)
PokéCommunity, from my experience, is an independent site, yes.

However, if you're looking at rivalry, from my experiences, Bulbagarden and Serebii have some sort of unsaid feud against each other. Although for all I know, it could be just in jest. But Bulbagarden and PC? No way.



In my experience, at least, the thing about "15 infractions making a permaban" seems to make a few people uneasy. (It would definitely make me uneasy. I have a habit of accruing trivial infractions, and I had about 10 or so in one year at Bulbagarden because I kept doing small things.)

That's Bulbagarden's staff, though. PC's tends to be a little bit more laid-back to the point where most of them would rather just explain things to you instead of handing those out like candy, so if you do get that many infractions, you really screwed up somewhere along the line. In all my time on PC and after pulling quite a lot of crap, I've only gotten one infraction, and that was reversed after some discussion. Besides that? Nothing but stern talkings-to now and then.

Just remember that a difference in rules doesn't necessarily mean one community is harder to get along in than another. It all depends on the mods enforcing them, really.

Like this set of posts relates...PC does pride itself on being laid back. There are a few people in power here who seem to have taken an unreasonable disliking to me, and I still exist here. :3

If that were to happen to anyone on BGMf or SPPf then they'd be banhammer'd without even a hearing. So PC is friendly. It can't be disputed.

The rivalry is not much of one. It's just jaded folks who land here from BGMf or SPPf, both of those are pretty rough. Smogon and PE2k can be relatively unfriendly as well. I still despise Smogon personally, they're like all competitive battlers who typically are not too friendly about it when you just want to have FUN and find their rules too stiff and dull.

Yoshikko August 3rd, 2011 9:07 AM

I do find PC one of the more friendlier forums I've known, the communication between members, and the staff as well is very good, which creates a very friendly environment. I also didn't have the feeling that there were expectations of me when I first joined here, while on other forums, most of the time, I get the feeling that I have to accomplish something, or some kind of status, to mean something (this is probably just how I perceive it, but that also says something about the atmosphere that might be intimidating), but on PC I felt very welcome and in place.

marcc5m August 3rd, 2011 9:30 AM

As has been stated before, Pokecommunity is more of a general Pokemon forum. PokeBeach is mostly trading cards, Smogon is competitive battling, PE2K is inactivity and Serebii is being a (I don't want to get into trouble).

Why would PC need a rival exactly? Lol.

Netto Azure August 3rd, 2011 10:21 AM

Just need to point out. BMGf still has the Conflict Review Board for all complaints. o3o

That aside, each Pokemon fansite has it's on thing going for it.That's why the fandom is so diffuse lol.

Vrai August 3rd, 2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pachy (Post 6781618)
The rivalry is not much of one. It's just jaded folks who land here from BGMf or SPPf, both of those are pretty rough. Smogon and PE2k can be relatively unfriendly as well. I still despise Smogon personally, they're like all competitive battlers who typically are not too friendly about it when you just want to have FUN and find their rules too stiff and dull.

Different communities are different. The environment is different here and there, and that goes for every forum. You can't really compare forums, in my opinion, because the way you feel about certain forums and the environments they establish reflect your personality. If you like it at PC, then you like the way things are run at PC. If you like it at Smogon, then you like the way they're run at Smogon.

Obviously everyone here prefers PC or likes it enough to want to be here. I don't really see other forums as 'rivals' because there's really nothing to compete over...

August 4th, 2011 5:14 AM

Well, Smogon does use exactly the same forum layout as PC, you can tell from looking at it, but it also has Pokemon reviews and a move database and all that stuff. On the other hand, Smogon seems to be more about the aspects of the game than the members actually interacting with each other, which is a bad thing from my point of view. I still much prefer PC, but sometimes I'll look at a Smogon analysis for a moveset. Smogon is like the strict, no-nonsense teacher, where PC is more the happy-go-lucky, fun-loving child.

Azure Wish August 5th, 2011 3:43 PM

Not really. PC seems sort of isolated from other pokemon forums.

Btw, the whole *****y rivalry between Serebii and Bulbagarden began around 2003, with Serebii's servers going down and a whole argument about it with Archaic.

Ieyasu August 5th, 2011 4:12 PM

We don't have one, since PC's too good to have a rival. XD

Nick August 5th, 2011 4:28 PM

Closing this before this continues to have members who feel the need to repeat something that's been stated 20+ times.


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