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T3chwolf3 August 12th, 2011 8:21 PM

After the Storyline
 
Do you like how the game had you fight lvl 54 pokemon against N and Ghetsis,
and then all the newly opened routes go straight to the 60's?
Personally, as a not-so-good trainer it's kinda a really hard to conquer push =/


Opinion?

mysticjoshgaming August 12th, 2011 11:36 PM

they are all weaker then ghetsis himself so i don't worry

jeiizi August 12th, 2011 11:53 PM

Pretty easy! wasn't so hard for me!
I just went to the giant chasm to train

Jack August 13th, 2011 12:00 AM

I played this game. with no idea this was coming. took me ALOT OF TRIES.

Tsundera August 13th, 2011 4:14 AM

I hopped straight on over to Route 11 after completing the story and, to be honest, I wasn't expecting to be thrown into battle with Pokémon that were much higher level than my own. It was a surprise, but a welcomed one nevertheless. It gets old quite quickly when you're able to sweep Pokémon trainers easily. I found it to be much more challenging fighting trainers with such high-levelled Pokémon.

I realised I'd need to train some more if I was going to progress onwards so I went straight back to the Elite 4. Again, I was surprised to see their levels and teams excel beyond 70+. I seriously didn't think anything would change from the first time around, in terms of their Pokémon team and levels. I'm glad I saved my game right before entering...

I didn't bottle it though. I forced myself through those guys with everything I could muster and only -just- managed to scrape by Alder. My highest levelled Pokémon was only 58 and it came right down to a last Pokémon vs. last Pokémon situation. :X

T3chwolf3 August 13th, 2011 5:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsundera (Post 6801931)
I hopped straight on over to Route 11 after completing the story and, to be honest, I wasn't expecting to be thrown into battle with Pokémon that were much higher level than my own. It was a surprise, but a welcomed one nevertheless. It gets old quite quickly when you're able to sweep Pokémon trainers easily. I found it to be much more challenging fighting trainers with such high-levelled Pokémon.

I realised I'd need to train some more if I was going to progress onwards so I went straight back to the Elite 4. Again, I was surprised to see their levels and teams excel beyond 70+. I seriously didn't think anything would change from the first time around, in terms of their Pokémon team and levels. I'm glad I saved my game right before entering...

I didn't bottle it though. I forced myself through those guys with everything I could muster and only -just- managed to scrape by Alder. My highest levelled Pokémon was only 58 and it came right down to a last Pokémon vs. last Pokémon situation. :X

Ha, you doing that makes you a ton better than I am, since I'm not really good with strategy in Pokemon, I like to just have lots of forceful moves and support moves. I'm not really patient so it's hard for me to sit and train (working on it though)

vaporeon7 August 14th, 2011 4:16 AM

It was like a big BOOM for me. I only made through it as well as I did because all my Pokemon were raised to level 60+ before the Elite 4. But I can see how hard it must have been for those who didn't. I think the game should have eased me into it, and included re-battles.

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ August 14th, 2011 12:39 PM

It wasn't bad for me, the reason for this is because my Pokemon were in their 60's by the time the main story mode was over in Pokemon White. But its not like the jump went from 54 to level 74....a 20 level difference---then that is something to complain about, but 5-10 level difference isn't as bad as you think


:t354:TG

Zaicon August 14th, 2011 1:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsundera (Post 6801931)
I hopped straight on over to Route 11 after completing the story and, to be honest, I wasn't expecting to be thrown into battle with Pokémon that were much higher level than my own. It was a surprise...

I realised I'd need to train some more if I was going to progress onwards so I went straight back to the Elite 4. Again, I was surprised to see their levels and teams excel beyond 70+. I seriously didn't think anything would change from the first time around, in terms of their Pokémon team and levels. I'm glad I saved my game right before entering...

This is what I did, and I was very surprised. At that point, I went around searching to see if there were any new Trainers that did not have level 60+ Pokemon, but I did not succeed.

2Cool4Mewtwo August 14th, 2011 2:43 PM

I transferred all of my prized pokemon in soulsilver to my black version, so I've never had real trouble with these trainers. I probably should've waited a bit more...

T3chwolf3 August 14th, 2011 4:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 6803645)
It was like a big BOOM for me. I only made through it as well as I did because all my Pokemon were raised to level 60+ before the Elite 4. But I can see how hard it must have been for those who didn't. I think the game should have eased me into it, and included re-battles.

I think so too, I'm getting better, so it's not a HUGE deal for me, but its still a challenge

Musharna August 15th, 2011 9:59 AM

I just beat the Elite four yesterday and went to train to the Dreamyard. There's quite a few trainers with Pokemon about levels 63-65 so it's a good place to train if you're like me and your best Pokemon was lvl 65 and weakest 51 when beating Elite 4. My lvl 51 Pokemon beat lvl 64s in the Dreamyard quite easily, but if it was 70+... I have two Pokemon who could beat them, lvl 69 Basculin and lvl 58 Samurott. 10 levels is something that you can still patch up with good tactics but if the difference is more than that it's gonna be tough.

If your Pokemon aren't strong enough to fight 70+ I suggest you go around Unova as there are trainers and wild Pokemon with only 60+ levels. That's what I'm doing.

superdogbiter August 15th, 2011 10:02 AM

no but grinding is something i'm used to now

Kevin August 15th, 2011 4:55 PM

I was surprised seeing the levels of the trainers on the eastern routes, but I easily managed to pass by them, thankfully.

T3chwolf3 August 15th, 2011 5:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musharna (Post 6805687)
I just beat the Elite four yesterday and went to train to the Dreamyard. There's quite a few trainers with Pokemon about levels 63-65 so it's a good place to train if you're like me and your best Pokemon was lvl 65 and weakest 51 when beating Elite 4. My lvl 51 Pokemon beat lvl 64s in the Dreamyard quite easily, but if it was 70+... I have two Pokemon who could beat them, lvl 69 Basculin and lvl 58 Samurott. 10 levels is something that you can still patch up with good tactics but if the difference is more than that it's gonna be tough.

If your Pokemon aren't strong enough to fight 70+ I suggest you go around Unova as there are trainers and wild Pokemon with only 60+ levels. That's what I'm doing.

I've gotten better, I just haven't expected the jump since I'm not an avid player from before, my strategy is much better than when I posted this

pknight96 August 15th, 2011 5:45 PM

At first, I was like, "OMG it is so strong! WHY????" But then I just stuck in Reshiram and mopped the floor with everyone.

Genesect August 18th, 2011 5:19 AM

Same as pknight96, I was like "WTF Gamefreak **** y'all, Screw y'all" , then i actually finished all with my Samurott + Zekrom combo.

Pokemon Trainer Touko August 26th, 2011 9:11 AM

It wasn't really that hard for me because... I went on google and searched up what happens on the post game and trained my pokes up to a really high level :D

The Nightmare August 26th, 2011 11:24 PM

Do you like how the game had you fight lvl 54 pokemon against N and Ghetsis,
and then all the newly opened routes go straight to the 60's?


Yeah it was pretty fun than fighting lv40's all the time, but Ghetsis was a bit hard because he had a Hydreigon lv50 when it's not suppose to evolve in that level.

cazzler August 26th, 2011 11:27 PM

It did overwhelm me that the levels shot up like that, but what others said before ''They are weaker then Ghetsis'' is actually true, If you can beat Ghetsis then its possible but difficult to beat the other routes/half of Unova.

Masterge77 August 29th, 2011 5:54 AM

I always found it to be an unfair advantage, I mean really, it goes from Level 50-53, and then suddenly jumps 10 levels.

Then again, a LOT of the Pokemon in Gen 5 evolve at unreasonably high levels, ones that are absurd such as Mienfoo into Mienshao at level 50, and the worst offender of all is Zwelious into Hydregion, at LEVEL 63! Seriously Game Freak!?

Charicific August 29th, 2011 6:23 AM

A glided through these trainers, I didn't lose, but it required some time.
I like it though, since it gives a HUGE Boost of EXP to your pokemons, leveling up in B/W became so easy after that, Especially since stronger Pokemon give loads of EXP than low leveled ones.

But I had to train to take out Cynthia, she owned me the first time.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ August 30th, 2011 5:27 AM

Completely unfair and one of the worst parts about B/W IMO. Also one of the reasons I never played through the games again. The level jump was extremely frustrating, completely absurd (if these guys are so tough, why aren't THEY Elite Four members), and required even more pointless level grinding than usual. I was at Lv60 after beating the Elite Four and I had to level grind to 73 or 74 before I felt comfortable taking them on.

In short, that was my least-liked part of B/W and it still causes me to rage...

Pyrax August 30th, 2011 1:46 PM

Meh, it was hard and frustrating at first, but I eventually found the level jump easy after half a day's worth of grinding. In fact, the closest I ever came to losing was against that ranger's Altaria, and even then my lv.56 Scrafty defeated it with Dragon Claw.

quilzel August 30th, 2011 1:55 PM

It was quite a surprise to see the jump, but I liked it. It was another challenge, and a hard one at that. There where a couple of times that I barley beat them, but I did manage to take them with level 50 Pokemon.


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