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miltankRancher November 21st, 2011 1:08 AM

The rivals appear too much, almost after every Gym Battle or even randomly around Routes. Imagine your Poke's HP is like very low and you need to rush to the nearest PC, then Bianca appears demanding a battle. So bossy.

Celestial Daze November 21st, 2011 1:52 AM

Well,that falls on what I said on the previous post too, I guess the rival mechanic is getting old. Mostly because,nowadays they aren't rivals, they are friends.
Gary was an idiot,but an idiot that didn't like you.
Silver was a criminal,and it didn't like you.
May/Brendan was neutral toward you,
And from Generation IV+ ...

Melinda November 21st, 2011 3:35 AM

The extremely long and annoying Team Plasma speeches always drive me insane. I think I'm always complaining about the speeches. xD

Ho-Oh November 21st, 2011 4:07 AM

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Originally Posted by miltankRancher (Post 6937318)
The rivals appear too much, almost after every Gym Battle or even randomly around Routes. Imagine your Poke's HP is like very low and you need to rush to the nearest PC, then Bianca appears demanding a battle. So bossy.

Well technically she gives you time to prepare. :x I mean other than on that one route in the desert, I don't really think them not giving you time to prepare for a battle is really an issue. Idk I'd be more annoyed at N if anything, especially HIS FIRST EVER BATTLE, forced to battle a Pokemon you've NEVER SEEN BEFORE from a route you've never been to, totally intimidating for new trainers! :(

...though in reality N is creepy/worse with battles. :x

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Originally Posted by pokeskate (Post 6936797)
It annoyed me that you get to chose which order you fight the elite 4. It made it easier too cuz the statue even tells you what type each person has so you can prepare. i miss the ridiculously long championship stairs:)

Pfft, making it easier is a good thing tbh, since in past games you couldn't backtrack and go an easy route, saving your revives etc and leaving them for the harder trainers later. You just had to save in the past, but now on my playthrough's I haven't saved :3 Idk there was something about closed doors in past games that made me wanna save. XD But yeah I like being able to choose the way you go, really, choice ftw.

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Originally Posted by miakalina (Post 6937436)
The extremely long and annoying Team Plasma speeches always drive me insane. I think I'm always complaining about the speeches. xD

But they're so very insightful! Actually tbh yeah I do skip through them, but the first time it was pretty interesting to hear what Ghetsis was saying, I think that was one of the main things I was looking forward to... getting to see what Ghetsis finally was saying at Accumula. XD;

Melinda November 21st, 2011 4:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6937450)


Well technically she gives you time to prepare. :x I mean other than on that one route in the desert, I don't really think them not giving you time to prepare for a battle is really an issue. Idk I'd be more annoyed at N if anything, especially HIS FIRST EVER BATTLE, forced to battle a Pokemon you've NEVER SEEN BEFORE from a route you've never been to, totally intimidating for new trainers! :(

...though in reality N is creepy/worse with battles. :x



Pfft, making it easier is a good thing tbh, since in past games you couldn't backtrack and go an easy route, saving your revives etc and leaving them for the harder trainers later. You just had to save in the past, but now on my playthrough's I haven't saved :3 Idk there was something about closed doors in past games that made me wanna save. XD But yeah I like being able to choose the way you go, really, choice ftw.



But they're so very insightful! Actually tbh yeah I do skip through them, but the first time it was pretty interesting to hear what Ghetsis was saying, I think that was one of the main things I was looking forward to... getting to see what Ghetsis finally was saying at Accumula. XD;

I read through it the first time too, but after that his speeches were just too long-winded for me. x]

Kaleidoscop November 24th, 2011 7:29 PM

Bianca and Cheren's Rival battles almost after every gym battle

Adam Levine November 27th, 2011 3:05 AM

Lack of these Pokemon Types:
Steel,Water,Fire,Poison,Dragon(Always lacking in number) and Ice(Also always lacking in number
Too much Gym Leaders!
No version(Like Emerald,Green,Crystal,Platinum)

Trance and Moss November 27th, 2011 12:45 PM

Basically the storyline not going deep enough. The true motivations of team plasma, and the exploration of N as a character.

They passed up on a great opportunity to make Pokemon storyline more intriguing and mature. Something I think the games need to strive for.

Waffle-San November 28th, 2011 2:12 PM

I loved Black and White pre-Elite 4 but after that...nothing. It was really disappointing! It was just some grinding, walking paths (with little significance) and running into a sage every once in awhile who you couldn't battle or anything. I know most Pokemon games are like this but I had higher expectations for BW, plus it just seemed...dryer.

That and like every Pokemon game, I'm annoyed by the lack of recognition your trainer gets. My guy has not lost a single battle and is on his way to the Elite 4, people should know who I am and want to beat me. If not then, then definitely after I become Champion and foil Team Plasma! I want fans. :'(

Finally, I kind of miss the Follow-Me feature from HGSS.

XEL November 28th, 2011 2:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Waffle-San (Post 6946162)
That and like every Pokemon game, I'm annoyed by the lack of recognition your trainer gets. My guy has not lost a single battle and is on his way to the Elite 4, people should know who I am and want to beat me. If not then, then definitely after I become Champion and foil Team Plasma! I want fans. :'(

This. Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. It was kind of cool that once you got a black trainer card in Diamond, Nurse Joy would recognize you, though. and Honestly, with all these mini games and what not, I wouldn't mind them implementing a system where you can take on challengers as the Champion.

Nugg November 28th, 2011 5:32 PM

Having to hold B to run. That button in HGSS was awesome! :(

Keiran December 4th, 2011 4:09 AM

Being limited to 3 Pokemon if I want to play Single Random Matchup matches, or if I'm using Flat Rule to play with a friend who doesn't have all lv100s. Pretty much ruins the whole thing.

HaloSonic December 5th, 2011 2:29 PM

a minor thing that made no sense (and could boil down to nintendo's laziness) is that during some of the xtranciever conversations, your character always has a smile on their face, even through some of the more grim matters. they could've made some more facial expressions, y'know? it's not that hard...

also, not being able to rebattle gym leaders blows.

also, It would've been nice to be able to fly somewhere at the airport rather, than serve no real purpose for being there.

lacella December 5th, 2011 2:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nugg (Post 6946338)
Having to hold B to run. That button in HGSS was awesome! :(

omg. this pissed me off so much!!

Silhouette December 6th, 2011 3:03 PM

Here's a couple:
  • The fact that they removed Pokemon from following you.
  • The severe lack of Triple/Rotation battles, ESPECIALLY from the Battle Subways.
  • No battle frontier (or similar location). I can't complain too much, though, since the 'first' two versions only ever have the Battle Tower (Subways in this case). So help me Arceus, if we don't have a battle frontier in a third version...
  • MY HAND :O I can't believe they removed the B-Button lock for running. D:
Might have more, but these are minor. The game was great, basically.

bobandbill December 6th, 2011 4:21 PM

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a minor thing that made no sense (and could boil down to nintendo's laziness) is that during some of the xtranciever conversations, your character always has a smile on their face, even through some of the more grim matters. they could've made some more facial expressions, y'know? it's not that hard...
I noticed something similar about that - your character is always holding that darn hat of his. In. Every. Single. Convo. Why does he assume that pose everytime? =( Added to the whole 'always smiling' thing.
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The severe lack of Triple/Rotation battles, ESPECIALLY from the Battle Subways.
Double battles as well, actually. Many times I felt that a double battle was coming but... only several single battles. Often happened with Platinum in which they took turns to take you on instead of battling you as the same time when in pairs or more. =/
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The fact that they removed Pokemon from following you.
MY HAND :O I can't believe they removed the B-Button lock for running. D:
I think that happned because there were two different teams working on HGSS and BW at the same time (after all, they came out a year after the other), so some things probbaly were only the result of one team, like the B-button removal and Pokemon following you.

DarkWolf13 December 6th, 2011 4:37 PM

What irritates me in B/W is the partner trainer in the Battle Subway. The partner has very limited pokemon that is is ONLY gen V. I was hoping for some pkmn from older generations after getting the national dex on that trainer's roster but no. and I was hoping gen I-IV pokemon on the normal rank subway lines too afterwards. one more thing that irritates me is the lack of move tutors. I mean, NO ICE PUNCH, Zen Headbutt, Low Kick, Seed Bomb, Iron Head, Earth Power, none of that? It would've made the game even more fun because imagine a elemental punching Golurk?

Zapperz December 6th, 2011 5:12 PM

Firstly, the pokemon box movement. i liked the one in DPPT where you just hold A and it turns orange or smth, and you can drag everything to move at once. Now, you have to manually drag one by one to a box.. ahh. Then theres the battle subway which is rather boring than battle frontier cause theres more stuff to do there. And theres the similar type elite 4 with afew pokes..

Silhouette December 6th, 2011 5:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 6956123)
I think that happned because there were two different teams working on HGSS and BW at the same time (after all, they came out a year after the other), so some things probbaly were only the result of one team, like the B-button removal and Pokemon following you.

I forgot about this, but it does make sense.

Also, I have no problems with Garbodor, but what would have made it so unbelievable OP if it could learn Poison Jab? It wouldn't make it particularly potent or anything...

The 100 Mega Shock December 7th, 2011 3:50 AM

If you compare the staff credits between the two games, most of the programmers and several artists who worked on HG/SS are also credited in B/W for what it's worth.

On tight development schedules, things have to be cut - especially as every single Pokémon sprite in B/W needed to be redrawn in one way or another, drawing follower sprites for the Gen V Pokémon was something that didn't make the deadline.

Gresh44 December 7th, 2011 4:38 AM

I know there are so many pokemon in Unova, but it just seems my choices are really limited

Payday December 7th, 2011 7:36 PM

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Originally Posted by XEL (Post 6946179)
I wouldn't mind them implementing a system where you can take on challengers as the Champion.

That would be amazing! I found the entire story to be rather short--I mean, you only get to explore half the region before you battle the Elite Four (which is itself underwhelming), and after that there isn't much motivation or framework in which to explore the rest of Unova. I think a Champion post-game would really help the post-story gameplay be more useful and interesting.

Ho-Oh December 8th, 2011 7:07 AM

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Originally Posted by HaloSonic (Post 6954744)
a minor thing that made no sense (and could boil down to nintendo's laziness) is that during some of the xtranciever conversations, your character always has a smile on their face, even through some of the more grim matters. they could've made some more facial expressions, y'know? it's not that hard...

It's not even a good smile either, the animation quality in those xtranceiver cut scenes are kinda creepy. To be honest, if they were something like those tiny images in Mystery Dungeon, that might've made Juniper/etc look more realistic. I mean sure they were Pokemon, but still...!

The 100 Mega Shock December 8th, 2011 8:52 AM

And then they wouldn't have looked anything like you're actually communicating over the C-Gear.

Considering that the scenes are sparsely used and consist of quickly downscaled copies of promotional art from two different artists, it's pretty easy to come to the conclusion that they were not a massive priority in development and got quickly thrown in to provide a cutscene that's of better quality than HG/SS's "Talking over a phone without picture or video chat like it's still 1999"

Frozen Flames December 8th, 2011 4:47 PM

I was intimidated by how superior the Elite Four was in the Pokémon League! Level grinding to the max...but it was still really fun. Anyways the thing that really grinds my Klinklangs (lol) was the way I thought Kyurem would be the best Pokémon ever, besides Arceus, and he only knew a few moves.


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