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07tandu October 1st, 2011 9:38 PM

Lack of water pokemon!
 
Seriously Black and White have like 2 pokemon you can find in the water. The fish and the jellyfish. Thats it. Whats the point of getting a fishing rod.

Pikachukid October 1st, 2011 9:46 PM

Alomamola,Tympole line, Basculin, Panpour line, Tirtouga line, Ducklett, Frillish line, Oshawatt line....Did I miss anyone? But yeah there aren't enough water pokemon in Black and White :(

Ho-Oh October 1st, 2011 9:48 PM

I agree entirely actually. It's probably even worse due to the fact that you can't even get a fishing rod before the post-game and that you can't get Surf until after the 6th gym while there are bodies of water before that (and even water you can't surf in, which I still find pretty stupid - you should be able to swim in all water not just random rivers throughout the region) and yeah when you see what's offered in terms of water Pokemon, it's like, why the wait?

At least you can get Pokemon that can learn surf early on, but again there's no real point if there's nothing to be offered (though I believe you can trade for a Pokemon with surf early on without having the HM but I didn't get a chance to test that earlier lol).

But yeah a larger variety of Pokemon found in water would've been nice, even Ducklett/Swanna would be appropriate for the water as well as the bridges.

Kenshin5 October 1st, 2011 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pikachukid (Post 6871449)
Alomamola,Tympole line, Basculin, Panpour line, Tirtouga line, Ducklett, Frillish line, Oshawatt line....Did I miss anyone? But yeah there aren't enough water pokemon in Black and White :(

I think he meant in the Water not Water pokemon as a whole. Which the only ones in the water are Alomamola, Basculin, Frillish, and Jellicent.

I am not really disappointed in either there being a small amount of Water types or Water pokemon within the Water. We have he plenty of abundant amount of Water pokemon in the past, so this region seems to make up for it a bit with the exclusion of many Water Routes or pokemon.

assassinjay1229 October 1st, 2011 10:16 PM

I really don't mind the lack of water pokemon in unova, because water has the most species the last time I counted anyway. Most of the new water pokemon get more and more unoriginal anyway imo.

Tympole line = wannabes of Poliwag line
Ducklett line = Psyduck line mixed with Farfetch'd imo
Alomamola = bigger Luvdisc (at first I thought it was its evo)
Basculin = it's alright I could take it or leave it
Panpour line = I don't like them
Tirtouga line = I like them but there are already 6 other turtle pokes
Frillish line = I like the gender differences but the Tentacool line are better
Oshawatt line = I hate Oshawott and Samurott, but I <3 Dewott it's so badass

Satoshi Ookami October 1st, 2011 10:19 PM

I think there's plenty of them =D
Tympole and its evolution are more than enough :D

sherreamethyst October 1st, 2011 10:30 PM

I think yur right! They need more water types! I think Eelektross shouldve been water/electric...i mean...HE IS A FREAKIN EEL.

Poison - Grey October 1st, 2011 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 07tandu (Post 6871444)
Seriously Black and White have like 2 pokemon you can find in the water. The fish and the jellyfish. Thats it. Whats the point of getting a fishing rod.

I agree that there arn't enough water pokemon, but thats not the point of the fishing rod.
The point of the rod is to catch previous generation pokemon after the game, because alot of those pokemon shouldn't be found on land. Thats the only point I see, all Unova pokemon caught with a rod can be causght somewhere else....

sherreamethyst October 1st, 2011 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Poison - Grey (Post 6871476)
I agree that there arn't enough water pokemon, but thats not the point of the fishing rod.
The point of the rod is to catch previous generation pokemon after the game, because alot of those pokemon shouldn't be found on land. Thats the only point I see, all Unova pokemon caught with a rod can be causght somewhere else....

Plus, thats probably why they don't give yu the rod till yu beat the game anyways...

PlatinumDude October 1st, 2011 11:07 PM

The lack of Water Pokemon in Unova disappointed me. The only Water Unova Pokemon I was happy with were Oshawott, Tirtouga, Panpour and Frillish. Basculin was alright, Tympole didn't appeal to me (because it was denied Ice Beam and Waterfall) and Alomomola (which is rather terrible in singles).

banngr October 1st, 2011 11:18 PM

Somebody some Tentacruel is better than Jellicent. Are you mad? I'm not gonna flame but I'm tempted to go on a cursing rant about that claim.

Pikachukid October 2nd, 2011 9:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenshin5 (Post 6871460)
I think he meant in the Water not Water pokemon as a whole. Which the only ones in the water are Alomamola, Basculin, Frillish, and Jellicent.

I am not really disappointed in either there being a small amount of Water types or Water pokemon within the Water. We have he plenty of abundant amount of Water pokemon in the past, so this region seems to make up for it a bit with the exclusion of many Water Routes or pokemon.

Ah I see but yeah theres still not enough water pokemon and those that are there the majority of them are found on land...They actually included Basculin as a last minute type of deal though didn't they? I mean GF realized they lacked fishies is what I read but it was already late in developtment...

legendarypokemon October 2nd, 2011 9:39 AM

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Originally Posted by assassinjay1229 (Post 6871464)
Oshawatt line = I hate Oshawott and Samurott, but I <3 Dewott it's so badass

I totally agree with you, thats why i chose him, my dewott is lvl 59.
But IMHO there are enough water pokemon. just wish keldeo; he is water type was available through in game and not just event. i want one bad!

The Nightmare October 2nd, 2011 3:19 PM

I noticed that when I found most of them on the water and they also need more water pokemon and ones that can evolve.

Saerith October 2nd, 2011 3:49 PM

The only water pokemon i really like are oshawott (level 89) and ducklett (level 65). Don't like their evo lines though. There should been more water pokemon though as said above ^_^

Weavile05 October 2nd, 2011 4:37 PM

Isshu has a lack of Water Pokemon.... Just like Sinnoh had a lack of Fire Pokemon, Kanto had only one Ghost and one Dragon Type Pokemon, Johto had a lack of Steel types (I can only think of three evo lines at this moment), Hoenn had a lack of Ground type Pokemon. It's not unusual for this kind of thing to happen.

vaporeon7 October 3rd, 2011 1:59 AM

There is a huge lack of water Pokemon for choice. I especially noticed this when I battled swimmers before the E4 and the shallow variety of Pokemon their teams had. Basculin was a late addition because they noticed the lack of water types and they needed more, so they made a 2 for 1.

Yoshikko October 3rd, 2011 2:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Pikachukid (Post 6871449)
Alomamola,Tympole line, Basculin, Panpour line, Tirtouga line, Ducklett, Frillish line, Oshawatt line....Did I miss anyone? But yeah there aren't enough water pokemon in Black and White :(

Tympole isn't exactly a water type, it's only Electric type. I would have wanted it to be water/electric, but I don't like Eelektross anyway. But yeah I agree on the lack of water types, Jellicent is a good one though.

EDIT - OK OOPS I MISTOOK IT FOR TYNAMO LOL. Nevertheless I do think Tynamo should be water type XD

JakeyBoy October 3rd, 2011 7:46 AM

People normally complain about there being too many Water Pokemon in general. Clearly Game Freak decided to cut down. A lot.

ᶰᵒᶥʳ October 3rd, 2011 8:07 AM

It doesn't bother me in the least.
There are plenty of water type pokemon overall, and this IS a different region.
It does get monotonous if you haven't beat the game already, but you also don't have to deal with a lot of water. I like that it's different and makes it seem more varied as far as the continents go. If I'm not mistaken, this release had more of an emphasis on bug and grass types? It sort of makes sense that water types would be less prevalent.

AquaticWartortle October 3rd, 2011 9:09 AM

You are correct, they do lack water Pokemon (maybe because surfing isn't really required for the game.

Maple Leaf October 3rd, 2011 11:52 AM

I only needed the Oshawott line, so it doesn't matter.

I don't even pay attention to these things. D; I just got through the game with the Oshawott line and others, and the lack of Water typed Pokemon didn't affect anything.

cazzler October 4th, 2011 12:59 AM

I used the Oshawott line and I thought that it was all I needed, I never really noticed the lack of water types, I wasn't really looking for one in particular while playing... But I do agree that there isn't much to work with at first regarding water types.

Xander Olivieri October 4th, 2011 7:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeyBoy (Post 6873284)
People normally complain about there being too many Water Pokemon in general. Clearly Game Freak decided to cut down. A lot.

^ this ^

Gen 1. Its so annoying fighting all these Water Pokemon while surfing.
Gen 2. Why do they have so much Water Pokemon. Why do I have to surf so much.
Gen 3. I'm sick and tired of surfing everywhere. All these water Pokemon are so annoying.
Gen 4. More surfing...More Water Pokemon...RAGE!

Gen 5......WHERE THE HELL ARE ALL MY WATER POKEMON?!

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ October 4th, 2011 10:36 AM

Samurott was all I needed. Now, I'll agree that the choices of quality Water Pokemon is a bit lacking, but honestly, I've felt the same way about other Pokemon games as well.

And clearly fishing isn't meant th be one of the major ways to get Unova Pokemon - that's why you don't get it until the postgame. At least we don't have to suffer through the Magikarp catcher known as the Old Rod...


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