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cdko December 30th, 2004 11:02 AM

who's the best? Groudon/Kyogre POLL:P
 
pLS.. choose two pokemon that really rocks you? is it Groudon?or Kyogre?

Raito Absol December 30th, 2004 11:10 AM

To me Kyogre is the best of the two. =). I think it looks cooler and I like water types.

Neon Methodis December 30th, 2004 11:37 AM

well really Kygore has the elemental advantage so im going to go with him

Dratini927 December 30th, 2004 4:33 PM

Kyogre does have an Advantage over Groudon by far. If the 2 are battling each other one on one, Kyogre would obviously pull off a win. Super high Special Defense, and Water Spout (Plus very high Special Attack) would defeat Groudon instantly. Groudon may have Solarbeam, but Kyogre's Sp. Def. is far too strong to be KO'ed by one Solarbeam.

Even if they're not going one on one, Kyogre would still have the advantage over other Pokemon too. It's stats are very strong, and can be used as a strategy against other Pokemon.

(Despite stats, I still like Groudon. :P)

FaerieEsqueThing December 30th, 2004 4:37 PM

I still think Groudon is better!! I love fire pokemon!

Dratini927 December 30th, 2004 4:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashlein
I still think Groudon is better!! I love fire pokemon!

Groudon is a Ground type, but learns Fire moves. ;)

FaerieEsqueThing December 30th, 2004 5:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dratini927
Groudon is a Ground type, but learns Fire moves. ;)

Same thing!!!! I guess...BUT GROUDON IS BETTER!!!! X_o

Isaac Gravity December 30th, 2004 5:44 PM

Well I don't use legendaries on my team but since ol' Rayquaza isn't an option I go with Kyogre since he's the better of the two overall. (Though I own Ruby)

Umbreon_Lover_x2 December 30th, 2004 5:45 PM

Groudons the best even if its stats are low

Isaac Gravity December 30th, 2004 6:22 PM

Groudon looks cooler but I like to follow usefulness in my combat preferences.

Jess December 30th, 2004 6:41 PM

I like Kyogre over Groudon, because Kyogre is water type and can defeat Groudon in a battle, no battle what level.

Aaron5367 December 30th, 2004 7:54 PM

Ehh... I dont know if ethier is better then each other I just love my Kyogy though!

Thanks,
Aaron

winnie December 31st, 2004 7:23 AM

Well i got the sapphire version while brother got the ruby, i picked the sapphire because well i thought kyogre look cool and well i love water pokemon! Groudon is still a cool pokemon.

MegaDitto December 31st, 2004 7:33 AM

I like Kyroge better.The way I like it is odd.

Star6 December 31st, 2004 8:45 AM

I also prefer Kyroge becuase it is a water type and could take Groundon a ground type and day. It also lloks very cool to so that is a bonus.

Trikip December 31st, 2004 8:53 AM

I think they both have their strengths and weaknesses, but I like water/ice pokemon better than fire/ground pokemon, so I'm going with Kyogre.

Castrainer December 31st, 2004 9:36 AM

There is saying who is the best, not who I like the most, so I had to vote Kyogre~

Champion December 31st, 2004 11:21 AM

Groudon > Kyogre

Iv'e always thought that kyogre looks like a blown up plastic toy 0_o

Quote:

Groudons the best even if its stats are low
Groudon doesn't have low stats:

Kyogre 100 100 90 90 150 140 = 670

Groudon 100 150 140 90 100 90 = 670

brandonspikes December 31st, 2004 11:23 AM

Oh sorry i cant choose i dont see myself on the poll

Timbjerr December 31st, 2004 1:11 PM

The major difference between Groudon's Stats and Kyogre's stats is this: While Groudon has high attack and defense, Kyogre has high sp. atk and sp. def. If you want to take advantage of their abilities, you will seek special attacks (like solarbeam for groudon and thunder for kyogre) In that case, the one with the stronger special attack would prevail, and thusly Kyogre is better at using it's abilities.

Surf+Calm mind+Rain dance effect+STAB+high sp. atk=utter doom

not to mention that everything that either are weak to are special types (grass and electric for Kyogre and Water and grass for Groudodn). wit ha higher speciala defense, kyogre is able to withstand most grass/electric attacks long enough to deliver an other destuctive Surf/ice beam.

I assume you know where my vote is going. XD

the skate board kid December 31st, 2004 1:39 PM

I picked Groudon. everyone else picked kyroge. I guess that makes me um......... hm..... I'll get back to you on that.

Simon December 31st, 2004 1:54 PM

Battle-wise: Kyogre > Groudon...usually.

Their stats are pretty much the same except for the Special and Normal stats switched around. So it comes down to Speed EVs and personality. The fastest one will have it's weather effect activated first, so that means it'll be canceled out.

Eg. Kyogre has 190 Speed Groudon has 100 Speed
Kyogre's Rain effect will kick in once it's sent out. Then Groudon is sent out next and it's ability kicks in canceling out the rain. Same goes vice versa.

And as for Solarbeaming Groudon, it's not very effective since it's Sp. Atk. stat isn't its forte. Even with the sun, it's still not much against Kyogre. Kyogre will only be knocked down to a little over half-life prolly.

So...Kyogre gets my vote even though I don't use ubers.

The Fallen December 31st, 2004 2:11 PM

I say they are pretty much even,cause Groudon can take Kyogre out with it's solar beam,but if kyogre strikes first the it's over so they are pretty much Kyogre=groudon.

master_trainer January 2nd, 2005 10:26 AM

Kyogre is definetly the better one; it's type and stat advantage is perfect. it's sp.def. is high enough to resist any special move at least once. and with one surf attack groudon can be dead, so kyogre>groudon

dragonballdan January 2nd, 2005 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dratini927
Kyogre does have an Advantage over Groudon by far. If the 2 are battling each other one on one, Kyogre would obviously pull off a win. Super high Special Defense, and Water Spout (Plus very high Special Attack) would defeat Groudon instantly. Groudon may have Solarbeam, but Kyogre's Sp. Def. is far too strong to be KO'ed by one Solarbeam.

Even if they're not going one on one, Kyogre would still have the advantage over other Pokemon too. It's stats are very strong, and can be used as a strategy against other Pokemon.

(Despite stats, I still like Groudon. :P)

yeah but still ifthey were both level 100 groudon will beat kyogre because he will have earthquake so there i stik with both really


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