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Sephirothxx October 31st, 2011 10:23 AM

Kris vs. Lyra? Who Do You Prefer?
 
When HGSS came out, I was really excited to see a revamped Kris and Gold, when I watched the intro, I became dissappointed that I only saw Gold make a return. To me, Kris was super cool in looks and I always thought she'd be super awesome to talk to.
What's your opinion? Kris or Lyra?
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0vD2mjlzFTTkZjsB6x9uYDypYUzLVgeEuX1AXeBLkKY4q5BEfLAKris?

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGkqfSbqb1EcXC6o6eQI1sglotvk4BgQ65K-8-w60luUt7Sk5uLyra?

psyanic October 31st, 2011 10:26 AM

Kris. Loved her to death. Lyra is annoying and her design is... not as good as Kris's. Okay, I hate it. She has a ridiculous balloon hat and overalls making her look like a preschooler. Also, her Marill annoys me.

I tried playing as Lyra once in-game, but I got sick of it and stopped midway.

Sephirothxx October 31st, 2011 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by psyanic (Post 6910994)
Kris. Loved her to death. Lyra is annoying and her design is... not as good as Kris's. Okay, I hate it. She has a ridiculous balloon hat and overalls making her look like a preschooler. Also, her Marill annoys me.

I tried playing as Lyra once in-game, but I got sick of it and stopped midway.

Yeah I especially hate Lyra's design. Kris is where it's at. Plus, I don't see how Lyra's name has anything to do with hearts, gold, souls, or silver?

Deliciousfruit233 October 31st, 2011 1:34 PM

I prefer Kris. No competition. Lyra looks like she's trying too hard to look like Mario, what with the ridiculous hat, the overalls, and the red colors.

Also, non-player Lyra is ANNOYING. STOP CALLING ME and telling me crap like your Marill evolved (Spoiler: It didn't).

Oryx October 31st, 2011 1:38 PM

I thought Lyra was cute but Kris was cool in a way that Lyra never could be. She probably appealed to the girl crowd that would want to play in that she's really cutesy, and not the people that want to play as a cool girl like me. I mean, just look at the way they're standing: Kris has her fists up as if she's gearing up for something or ready to fight. Lyra is...skipping with her arms out, holding her purse. I think the answer is obvious.

The Author October 31st, 2011 3:18 PM

I really liked Kris, but I LOVE the name Lyra. I don't know why.
I want to name my kids Lyra and Cyrus, but WHY DO THEY HAVE TO BE CHARACTERS IN POKéMON?!

blue October 31st, 2011 3:45 PM

I know the majority will say Kris but I really like Lyra!

Lord Varion October 31st, 2011 3:56 PM

Kris.
Merely because I grew up with her

MuffinPaula October 31st, 2011 4:35 PM

Lyra. I never played with Kris so I honestly don't know how it is with her. I actually like Lyra (in the game). In the anime she seemed annoying though..

Sydian October 31st, 2011 7:44 PM

Kris has blue hair. She wins! Lyra's art work is ugly imo, but her sprite is super adorable. But yeah, I've never played a game of Crystal as the male. So that's the indicator of who I like more, methinks.

Shining Raichu October 31st, 2011 8:44 PM

I don't hate Lyra, but Kris was definitely better. To be honest I don't understand why they needed to change the character at all, since everything else in the games suggests they were hell-bent on staying true to the nostalgia factor of the originals.

Ciax November 1st, 2011 2:35 AM

Lyra, I dislike Kris's outfit and hair. Lyra does look like a child but thats what she is supposed to look like. Also I never owned Crystal so I have never played as Kris.

giradialkia November 1st, 2011 4:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Shining Raichu (Post 6911663)
I don't hate Lyra, but Kris was definitely better. To be honest I don't understand why they needed to change the character at all, since everything else in the games suggests they were hell-bent on staying true to the nostalgia factor of the originals.

I agree with this; seeing as Kris was there since Crystal, there was no need whatsoever to replace her. Although to me, they're the same- even if I know Game Freak/Nintendo/Whoever has stated otherwise: they both have the same style of hair, and... Screw it, I'm not even going to bother explaining. But I prefer Kris, because I really just feel that Lyra is a needless change.

AquaticWartortle November 1st, 2011 4:25 AM

Kris. She had a very different but great style. I liked that she had Blue hair :P. Lyra is basically Leaf+ Kris but Lyra's design looked like a preschooler! i didn't really like it much.

Yoshikko November 1st, 2011 7:58 AM

Definitely Kris. Uuuhhhh I can't stand Lyra. She has a weird pumpkin hat and I don't like her girlyness. I liked Leaf a lot for that, but Lyra is just a no-no for me. Kris' design is just amazing imo, she's my favourite playable character of ALL games.

Masterge77 November 1st, 2011 8:00 AM

Kris, because I grew up with her, Lyra's outfit is just ridiculous from head to toe.

The Author November 1st, 2011 9:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterge77 (Post 6912016)
Kris, because I grew up with her, Lyra's outfit is just ridiculous from head to toe.

I was a little disappointed with her outfit as well.... :/
Kris was awesome fashion-wise, Lyra just has a cooler name IMO.

Komatana November 1st, 2011 12:21 PM

I never really thought there was a point in replacing Kris but I do like Lyra's design better.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ November 2nd, 2011 5:18 AM

Kris is the better of the two by far. Big poofy hat and Mario overalls? Really? Sorry, that doesn't make an appealing outfit to me.

Snivy063 November 2nd, 2011 9:07 PM

Kris, she was an absolute favorite of mine when that Raikou movie came out! Lyra? Not so much.. xD

Wings Don't Cry November 2nd, 2011 9:41 PM

So much hate for Lyra

Well let's see what I like about the two.

Kris has blue hair but Lyra has a puffy hat. Kris has a nice jacket and Lyra wears overalls. Kris looks all pumped up for battle but Lyra has a puffy hat. Kris promotes short shorts but Lyra has a puffy hat.

I'm sorry Kris fans but I have to go with the puffy hat even if she did keep lying to me on the phone about her Marill evolving.

Ho-Oh November 2nd, 2011 11:18 PM

Kris definitely. The better design, the better name and she was apart of my childhood. :x

Mentalii November 6th, 2011 6:50 AM

Krys. She's THE very first protagonist girl.
Who, girls, didn't jump for joy when she read (on the version Crystal box) that it was possible to play with obviously a boy, but also with a girl ?
Thanks to her we weren't compelled to call our character Ash, or give him a male first name anymore. She's Krys, the one and only.

So WHY? WHY Lyra? Why Mario's daughter, we're in Pokémon ! Where is our favourite blue-haired heroine? She's irreplaceable. How disappointning, a remake without her.

Jesus of Suburbia November 7th, 2011 12:19 AM

I prefer this girl
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/9e/Crystal_beta.jpg

dithyrambos November 7th, 2011 8:34 PM

I love Lyra's outfit. ❤❤ It is definitely super cute. Thigh-high socks and over-all shorts. ❤❤❤ Her hat isn't bad, either. It would have been moe if she pulled on it the way Bianca pulls on her hat, but it's fine the way it is. I like Lyra's hair more than Kris' hair, too. It's a lovely warm brown color and it curls naturally. Kris' hair bends like... like handlebars. Ick. :/ Lyra all the way.

Snivy063 November 8th, 2011 1:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dithyrambos (Post 6920948)
I love Lyra's outfit. ❤❤ It is definitely super cute. Thigh-high socks and over-all shorts. ❤❤❤ Her hat isn't bad, either. It would have been moe if she pulled on it the way Bianca pulls on her hat, but it's fine the way it is. I like Lyra's hair more than Kris' hair, too. It's a lovely warm brown color and it curls naturally. Kris' hair bends like... like handlebars. Ick. :/ Lyra all the way.

Lyra is definitely the cuter one, but if we have to look for originality, then Kris all the wayyy.. XD

BryGuy Shinigami November 13th, 2011 9:46 AM

I like Lyra way better. Lyra is better than any of the female protagonist IMHO. Kris was ok, but not great like Lyra.

Swimmer Ryan November 14th, 2011 9:49 AM

Kris, she looks like she's ready for a battle and about to take on the world. Lyra looks like a 5 year old trying to look older with a dumb hat, and retarded clothes, what the hell is that stuff

Sephirothxx November 16th, 2011 1:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Swimmer Ryan (Post 6929223)
Kris, she looks like she's ready for a battle and about to take on the world. Lyra looks like a 5 year old trying to look older with a dumb hat, and retarded clothes, what the hell is that stuff

Ha ...ha totally! Lyra looks a little embarassing... plus she lies about her marill evolving...

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Originally Posted by Jesus of Suburbia (Post 6919737)

Of course! I wonder what would happen if I added Beta Girl to the poll?

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ November 21st, 2011 8:19 AM

Well I'll have to go with Kris because I do love her hair and hair color while Lyra's hair is brown (which I can't relate to because I haven't seen myself with Brown hair since I was like 10 lol)


:t354:TG

Sephirothxx November 22nd, 2011 8:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ (Post 6937642)
Well I'll have to go with Kris because I do love her hair and hair color while Lyra's hair is brown (which I can't relate to because I haven't seen myself with Brown hair since I was like 10 lol)


:t354:TG

Kris is so badass. Plus her haifr defies physics. Cant go wrong with physics defying hair.

chella182 November 23rd, 2011 9:52 AM

Kris, definitely. Not sure why, I just prefer that sprite.

lacella November 23rd, 2011 12:31 PM

both of them need a trip to the hair salon, stat.

but at least kris' hair is blue, so it looks like she has an excuse for her hairstyle. like they look like handlebars on purpose - whereas lyra's hair looks like an accident. i love girliness but it just seems like... a weird girliness.

ZeganZoma November 23rd, 2011 2:38 PM

Kris all the way. I grew up with Crystal and i don't like how Lyra looks.

Rook2077 December 7th, 2011 1:56 AM

Kris definitely. Just look at her sprite compared to Lyra. She even looks like more of a Pokemon trainer.

Sephirothxx December 7th, 2011 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rook2077 (Post 6956642)
Kris definitely. Just look at her sprite compared to Lyra. She even looks like more of a Pokemon trainer.

Kris is definitely the best. Lyra just looks like a Mario fangirl.

Ephemeral Euphoria December 7th, 2011 11:55 AM

Kris by far, best looking playable female by a landslide and one of the best designed playable characters in general IMO.

.:CoralSoda:. December 7th, 2011 1:00 PM

It just has to be Kris, she just looks the part of a trainer and she looks fierce. I was very upset when I found out they weren't bringing her back. In a fight to the death, we all know Kris would destroy Lyra.

Trance and Moss December 7th, 2011 11:27 PM

Kris seems more strong and less stereotypical.

ThorCat December 23rd, 2011 8:52 AM

Hi new here! I love Kris! she kicks butt! I was looking for the
post were one of the users were going to try and put her in the
HG/SS game, but I think that was taken down, that's too bad because I fond
sprites that are great! I can't post a link it's my first comment but if you
want to see the sprites, just go to google and type in

-Pokemon Kris Sprite Livejournal

it should be the first link

well that is all from me!

Markichuuuuu December 23rd, 2011 10:17 AM

I like Lyra's design better, but she's also an annoying liar, so I'm gonna have to go with Kris.

mikey December 23rd, 2011 3:01 PM

Kris. I really hate Lyra, I wish they just used Kris again in HGSS :/

RivalGator December 23rd, 2011 3:23 PM

I love both. I can't really choose. I don't mind playing as either one of them, I think both of their designs are cool.

Spades Slick December 24th, 2011 9:40 AM

I prefer Kris, because quite frankly Lyra just doesn't appeal to me, that giant hat and that little Marill put me off too

Palamon December 26th, 2011 1:04 PM

Kris because nothing beats the original if you ask me. Lyra is okay, but I don't really care for her. Especially her big white hat. (It's a pain seeing that hat every time I play Heartgold.)

Lyra and Kris are one and the same if you ask me.

KoolKat vs. Lucas December 26th, 2011 7:21 PM

Crystal was meh first game, but then I got others. I 'ave to go with-a Kris.

kutnkill December 26th, 2011 7:26 PM

Lyra is beautiful therefore I choose her;)

drarixio December 26th, 2011 8:29 PM

I went for Kris because:

1) Marina is based off her.

2) I had no idea what Lyra's giant hat was when I played HG for the first time...I thought it was a walking tree mutation...

3) She called me up and said Marill evolved before I had a bird to teach Fly to, and I rushed back to her house and -.-' .

Squeaker Ed December 26th, 2011 9:39 PM

Kris.

Probably because I grew up playing the original Gold/Silver instead of HG/SS.

And Lyra looks annoying, too.

/has Kris as a planned cosplay, so feh~/

Pingouin_7 December 28th, 2011 1:59 PM

Definitely Kris.
When I was a kid, I was given the choice between Gold or Crystal. I picked Crystal, then started up a save file.
Picked the girl character because it was new, y'know.

~Red January 4th, 2012 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus of Suburbia (Post 6919737)

I think beta girl looks more like Lyra to be honest, which would make sense why they remade her.

If you remember, gold and silver were going to have a female option too however due to time constrains they couldn't get it working in time.

I also believe this beta artwork to be what that beta girl is based upon:
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/3/30/MicroGroup_Game_Review_Volume_14.jpg/428px-MicroGroup_Game_Review_Volume_14.jpg

Kris was only created simply for Crystal, since her name is clearly close to the name of the game.

morrison January 13th, 2012 9:39 AM

Kirs all the way. Kris is kick ass and she had the guts to do so , and she hasnt got a stupid ballon hat. Kris all the way.

Nick January 21st, 2012 5:35 PM

I absolutely hate Lyra's design, and I find her annoying to look at because her design is ridiculous and she just looks like she'd be really annoying if she were real.

Kris is an HBIC who needn't be messed with. XD

Sephirothxx February 2nd, 2012 1:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Patchisou Yutohru (Post 7018100)
I absolutely hate Lyra's design, and I find her annoying to look at because her design is ridiculous and she just looks like she'd be really annoying if she were real.

Kris is an HBIC who needn't be messed with. XD

Yeah Kris is legit. Dang I look at the poll and see who's obviously in the higher favor here. Kris dominates.

Jellicent♀ February 2nd, 2012 5:50 PM

I like them both, but Kris I have more love for. Lyra kind of annoyed me...a lot. The MASSIVE amount of fan art she has amazes me. Her hat is terrible. Her hair is terrible (as it is with most female protagonists), and she just all in all annoys me. Bad.

ChibiVamp February 3rd, 2012 6:19 AM

I can't stand Lyra's stupid poofy hat so much that if I ever get HG/SS, I'm going to play as Gold. Kris is way better by far. In fact IMO she has one of the best female character designs in the games. I'm never gonna understand why they always get shoved into short shorts and mini-skirts tho... Realy, go look at the girl in Black and White. Her shorts are shorter than the pockets O.o

BZW Golem February 3rd, 2012 6:43 AM

Kris > Lyra
Reasons:
1. NOSTALGIA
2. Lyra's hat is annoying .
3. Overall character design.
4. When I see Kris I can identify with her, I feel that we are similar in many ways.. but Lyra? nope >.>

Superjub February 3rd, 2012 1:37 PM

I know this sounds really, really whiny, but HeartGold/Soul Silver just wasn't the same without Kris. Lyra just felt really awkward (having the 'unusual' starter Pokemon of a Marill didn't help), and just felt really inferior to Kris. Her design, with the overalls and over-sized hat, is really silly and just... immature. Whereas, Kris actually looks dependable and was the original heroine, with the blue hair and slick outfit. :) Yeah, you can guess who I prefer. :P

TheLastAvenger February 3rd, 2012 8:23 PM

Kris by far. Lyra just annoyed me with her Marril and her oversized hat and farm-looking outfit. Plus Kris would have added more of a nostalgia factor to the remakes.

The Corrupt Plague February 3rd, 2012 9:26 PM

I like both of them though I slightly prefer Kris due to the nostalgia factor.

Meganium February 3rd, 2012 11:18 PM

I love, love, looooooooooooove Kris. She's amazingly awesome in The Legend of Thunder, and I wish she reappeared once again on HG/SS. I was disappointed, tbh, that Lyra replaced her.

Lyra needed an outfit-do-over. Just sayin'.

bobandbill February 4th, 2012 5:21 AM

Kris. Just prefer the design of the clothers and the whole 'first female protagonist' thing is an additional but notable thing I feel.

Lyra although she has a neat music theme and brought us much fanarts making fun of her Mario-esque clothing, was a kinda boring character added to HGSS with a fixation to Marill the most memorable thing about her imo. Would have preferred Kris' design and no pseudo-rival character added in, tbqh.

XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE February 9th, 2012 11:29 AM

On a biased level I'll say Kris, cause I've never played as Lyra :)

Sephirothxx February 14th, 2012 7:58 AM

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Originally Posted by XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE (Post 7042197)
On a biased level I'll say Kris, cause I've never played as Lyra :)

It's good that you've never played as Lyra. It's not worth it.

Lord_Sesshoumaru February 14th, 2012 10:06 AM

I'd go with Kris! Blue-Haired chicks ftw!

TheBritishNerd February 16th, 2012 1:36 AM

Kris is definately better Lyra's design is just awful...

EB February 17th, 2012 9:03 PM

Ratatat - Seventeen Years
 
Don't even get me started on the awkward designs of the fourth and fifth generations. :cer_cry:

Kris al deh wei [sic].

XtinaIsMeLuvinWWE February 20th, 2012 2:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sephirothxx (Post 7047843)
It's good that you've never played as Lyra. It's not worth it.

Lol!! :D I think if I ever got SoulSilver I'd play as Ethan, but that's just cause he's my favourite male protagonist (along with Brendan.) Poor Lyra lol :)

Sephirothxx February 23rd, 2012 4:31 PM

Kris all teh way. She's just so awesome. Maybe if/when they remake gold like 20 years from now or whatever they'll bring her back. Lyra is like the flu: I hate it. And the hate spreads among the Kris fans.

y stri February 23rd, 2012 6:52 PM

I never really cared for Kris. *cue gasps from stunned audience* Yes, I like Lyra better. I don't care if Kris is 'THE VERY FIRST FEMALE CHARACTER!!!!oneeleven!1" Actually, technically she isn't. But whatever. She's like the Fluttershy of Pokemon: too overrated.

AmiEkcona February 23rd, 2012 7:23 PM

Kris. I've been playing Crystal on my GBC, and I'm sad that Kris was replaced. They could have made a remake of Pokemon Crystal! Lyra is annoying. To me, Lyra is a replacement.

Sephirothxx February 25th, 2012 4:49 PM

I love the Kris support, guys!

tnfsf11 February 10th, 2013 12:24 PM

I prefer Kris cuz:
1. Blue spiked up hair.
2. Her Pokeballs are blue (cuz of sprite palette but still cool).
3. Cool clothes... Just plain awesome.

Why I dislike Lyra:
1. She stole the hate from Mario's friend, Toad, & removed the spots (they would have looked cool).
2. Farm clothes.
3. Awfully long socks, school-girl-ish.

Or maybe she's not that bad, it's just that she... doesn't... go... here...
They shouldn't have replaced her, and shouldn't have changed Red's look;
after all, they should have stick to the "remake" profile.

Seth Rollins February 10th, 2013 12:31 PM

aren't Kris and Lyra the same person but lyra is kris with the hat? (in the manga) but anyways i prefer kris because i like her clothes way better than lyra's.

Atomic Pirate February 10th, 2013 1:53 PM

Lyra has a poor design, whereas Kris had a good design and was overall a better female lead.

Plus, I was aggravated by Lyra's constant following of the PC. Her dialogue was awful, and she really did seem like the kind of person whom you'd have to tell to shut up every 5 seconds. That insane, near-lobotomized cheeriness is grating.

Xander Olivieri February 10th, 2013 3:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Elgyem (Post 7532137)
Lyra has a poor design, whereas Kris had a good design and was overall a better female lead.

Plus, I was aggravated by Lyra's constant following of the PC. Her dialogue was awful, and she really did seem like the kind of person whom you'd have to tell to shut up every 5 seconds. That insane, near-lobotomized cheeriness is grating.

If you played as Lyra, Ethan was like that.

Though I'm going by what a friend told me, Lyra is Krys just as Ethan is Gold. Both were renamed for the remakes and given make overs. I feel a bit more content with that scenario.

Pinkie-Dawn February 10th, 2013 3:18 PM

Apparently, you guys are still butthurt about the replacement scrappy. Keep in mind that these are remakes to the original Gold and Silver, not Crystal, and they added very few elements from that game to the remake. Anyway, my preference between the two depends if I like to see them in a crossover with any of Nintendo's franchises or which female trainer I like to see to co-exist with the male trainer for the next SSB game based on their design. I pick Lyra because:

1. Red used his FR/LG outfit in both his game and in HG/SS/B2/W2, which means Crystal will not be chosen as a candidate for the female trainer due to her lack of appearance in any of them, thus making her non-canon like Leaf.
2. I love to see Lyra interact with the Mario characters
3. I enjoyed her anime incarnation (and her interest on relationships).

Cerberus87 February 10th, 2013 4:53 PM

To tell the truth, I like Lyra better (the design). The reason everyone's fixated on Kris is because she was the first, and also the nostalgia factor.

Although I think the NPC versions of the playable characters were poorly utilized in HGSS. I felt like they didn't want to change the story too much, so they gave Lyra a very minor and at times annoying role. I'd have preferred if she did something more significant, like Dawn in DPPt.

Brendino February 10th, 2013 11:47 PM

I never played Crystal, so my choice should default to Lyra... but I never much cared for her as a character, and her design seemed a little strange to me. However, I think Kris' design is only marginally better, and unless you're playing as her, she never shows up in game.

Since there isn't really any character attached to it, I guess I'll go with Kris, just based on what I can actually compare them both in (appearance).

Treecko February 11th, 2013 3:18 AM

Kris all the way. I like her design more and she looks like a trainer who's ready to battle. And the nostalgia factor is an added bonus. I like Lyra's design, but I find her character annoying cause of how she constantly bothers you with calls , some unnecessary , and she's too peppy. Though I liked her anime appearance.

C_r_e_a_m_p_u_f_f February 11th, 2013 3:27 AM

Kris all the way. I simply don't think Lyra is "cute". I also have experience of Kris from the manga and Lyra's hat ruins it all...

Venitardus February 11th, 2013 12:57 PM

Kris all the way. I always picked her for GSC. I think she is the best out of Lyra and Kris

RenegadeClyde February 11th, 2013 3:06 PM

Kris. I think Lyra's design is quite cool (The hat could be smaller) but I prefer Kris's style. I also have chosen Kris because of her manga counterpart...Heheh

Ycia February 14th, 2013 4:42 PM

I like Kris, coz' she's stuck on my head since school days. XD
But Lyra is a lot better, I think because I love Balloon hats. XD

Evey February 14th, 2013 5:56 PM

I voted both. Though I do like Krys better (because of the manga) Lyra is actually very similar to her. I know the creators said that they made Lyra from scratch, but that's bull. Lyra and Krys both have the same hair-type with those cute little low pigtails. Also there body-type and stature are similar as well. Honestly it just seemed like they dyed Krys's hair brown and slapped a new more themed outfit on her. The rival character in Heart Gold/Soul Silver is SUPER annoying and cheery. Which isn't a bad thing if your in a bad mood. But when your wanting to advance to the next areas and battles its kindof annoying. Plus since I'm pretty sure this game was more directed as males, it makes Ethan (game-version of Gold) seem really girly and well....ya know. Nothing wrong against that of course, just doesn't match his intended personality. And that Marill, dear sweet Arceus...well enough ranting frum me X3

Isseubnida February 18th, 2013 11:52 AM

I like Lyra. Her hat is awesome.

soulryu February 19th, 2013 1:40 PM

kris seems more outgoing then lyra

TouchemonLearner March 3rd, 2013 10:37 AM

Kris is so much better she looks like a serious trainer whereas Lyra looks like a girl who got lost on her way to the mall.

vovillia March 6th, 2013 1:14 AM

I like Lyra more, maybe it's just a better quality sprite? A revamp of Kris' sprite would be nice to see...

Rivvon March 10th, 2013 1:23 AM

I like both, definitely.
To me they are the same--just because Lyra was designed from scratch doesn't necessarily make her a different character (Silver's name defaults to Heart and Soul in the remakes, are they different? And I'd say Sabrina's redesign is even more drastic than Kris/Lyra's).

I really love Lyra's adorable outfit (especially that hat--I want it!!), and Kris's more tough, simple design is super cool, too! They're both great.

LeftNut March 10th, 2013 9:40 AM

Kris's sprite makes her feel like more of a strong female lead, while Lyra just looks like some girly little kid who can't take anything seriously, so Kris wins this one by a long shot. However, they made Gold and Silver a lot girly-er with their redesigns as well, so that might just be a general gen 4 thing.

Altairis March 10th, 2013 10:48 PM

A lot of people are actually saying they like Kris because of hers or Lyra's design, I haven't really "everyone" posting about Kris's nostalgic factor. ;)

Kris's design > Lyra's design imo. Lyra looks way too girly and like she's mid-falling over, plus her ingame sprite was a pain to play as. Kris actually looks like she's ready to go on a journey and can handle herself.

Captain Gizmo March 11th, 2013 5:05 AM

I prefer Kris because in Pokemon Adventures, she was really awesome. She's good at battling AND capturing Pokemon. It made me really like her a lot. I still haven't seen the Pokemon Adventures version of Lyra, but I saw her anime version and nothing really appealed to me. Looks like just a regular trainer in the show.

Hikamaru March 12th, 2013 11:36 PM

Am I one of the very few who actually loves Lyra more?

I have to say, the reason I like her better than Kris is because Lyra is so cute, I love her hat and her hair color is so much like mine. She fits my description as a whole and that bow on her hat is what makes her awesome. I love cute protagonists like her.

Zorogami March 13th, 2013 12:53 AM

Lyra look too goofy to me...i just can't take her serious as a trainer.
Kris on the other hand looks really cool, like a trainer who means serious business, but is still nice and loving to her pokemon
She might even be the best looking female protagonist ever

MetaLion March 13th, 2013 1:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7578318)
Am I one of the very few who actually loves Lyra more?

No, I think I do to. I never understood the concept behind Kris clothing and... hairstyle. Lyra is really cute and imo the best designed female protagonist. Unlike the Sinnoh female protagonist, she doesn't look overly weak and feminine and unlike the Hoenn trainers, she doesn't look like she's wearing a pokémon-training-suit of some kind. To give some examples of why.

Then, she wasn't the most cool antagonist in the game :p but since Gary and Silver, there hasn't really been any cool antagonists, and we actually had Silver in HG/SS. So.

Bounsweet March 13th, 2013 2:08 PM

I really dislike them both. They're my least favorite female protagonists.

But if I had to pick the lesser of two evils, I'd go with Kris. Her design is just average but Lyra (which is my favorite name, too... u_u) just looks like a weird genderbent Mario thing...


Reaper716 March 16th, 2013 6:35 PM

Kris for sure. i love her personality on the comic. strong and tough~

PokemonTrainerC.White March 17th, 2013 8:15 AM

Kris is my favorite one. She has blue hair, and she knows good Pokemon. I had level 100 Feraligatr and Dragonite in the breeding section. Lyra didn't get Teddiursa in HeartGold version.

mew² March 28th, 2013 8:23 PM

Both, mainly because Kris was the original, the actual hardcore trainer.
While Lyra was just eye candy :L


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