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Zelda November 20th, 2011 8:36 AM

[Whimsicott] vs Lilligant
 

Black and White Weekly Poll #4: Whimsicott vs Lilligant


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Poll #4 of Pokémon VS Pokémon (Gen 5), and we bring to you, Whimsicott VS Lilligant!

Quick Stats:
- Whimsicott is most used with the prankster set (substitute/u-turn, leech seed, encore, stun spore/taunt/toxic)
- Lilligant (RU) Whimsicott (UU)
- Lilligant is used as a threat and a sweeper
- Whimsicott's looks can be deceiving, and so can Lilligant's!

Which one will you pick? DUN DUN DUN.

Ephemeral Euphoria November 20th, 2011 8:39 AM

Competitively, I'd use Whimsicott due to Prankster and access to Taunt. In-Game, I'd use Lilligant due to Quiver Dance and its access to Giga Drain.

But I'd choose Lilligant since it's grown on me during my run on White TBH.

Ho-Oh November 20th, 2011 8:41 AM

I love both, but for different reasons. Whimsicott is SO much fun to use with Prankster, while Lilligant is just pretty SO in the end, for battling purposes, going with Whimsicott. :x Everyone who hasn't tried to use it totally should, sooo much fun ;__;

Never used either in-game though!

GOOD LUCK WHIMSICOTT.

Nakuzami November 20th, 2011 8:48 AM

Well, I've never used either in-game, but I am going to do a solo challenge with Cottonee/Whimsicott...

I like them both, for different reasons like Forever said. Lilligant is appealing to the eye, but Whimsicott is interesting and also has access to Hurricane, which is pretty cool. Ima go with Whimsicott for this one, but it is a very close call for me. :3

DoctorFred November 20th, 2011 8:49 AM

Lilligant takes the cake for me. It gets one of the best set up moves, QUiver Dance, and having Chlorophyll makes it an even better sweeper in the sun. Plus it has access to the strongest special grass move, Leaf Storm.

Mr Cat Dog November 20th, 2011 9:22 AM

Whimsicott is one of the few Grass critters I actually like at all, so it gets my vote in a heartbeat! Normally Grass Pokemon just don't cut it for me (for whatever reason), but there's something about Whimsicott's design and its stats that really works.

Yoshikko November 20th, 2011 9:37 AM

Aside from anything competitive, I just love Whimsicott's design and I like Cottonee too. I don't really like Lilligant at all.

Oryx November 20th, 2011 9:48 AM

I haven't used either, and I'm not a fan of Lilligant's "look at me I'm girly" design. :x I love the design of Whimsicott lol.

Keiran November 20th, 2011 10:33 AM

Ohhh, this is a hard one- but I'm gonna go with Lilligant!

I've used Whimsicott quite a bit competitively-ish, but it's disappointing a lot of times. It gets checked a lot by other taunting Whimsicotts or faster Pranksters, then it's basically useless. Prankster hardly lets it make use of it's highest stat, which I dislike, because it's low other stats don't allow it to wall (along with all of it's weaknesses) or deal much damage. But it *is* really nice to have when your opponent isn't prepared for it.

Lilligant, on the other hand, can be quite powerful- but its movepool is shallow and it needs support. I'd probably run something like;

Sleep Powder
Solar Beam
Dream Eater
HP Fighting

Obviously, I'd have something bulky like Dusknoir open up with Sunny Day and then Gravity (so Sleep Power doesn't miss). Then swap to Lilligant, put it to sleep with my double speed, then proceed to use which of its three attacks are most effective while the opponent is sleeping. If they wake up and I take damage? No problem, put em back to sleep and Dream Eater off the damage.

Dream Eater and HP are literally all of Lilligants non-normal/grass attacks. :( It's also quite frail so I would use Focus Sash to make sure it lives when it swaps in/opponent wakes up- then heal back to full.

sherreamethyst November 20th, 2011 11:29 AM

I love Whimsicott's design. Lilligant never looked as cool though, although I would prefer it as a special sweeper. Whimsicott, like everyone else mentioned, has a fun ability along with the prankster moveset. I'd choose Whimsicott because I think it looks cool and it would be fun to mess with people in battles.

Hikamaru November 20th, 2011 12:51 PM

This was a hard one... I tried both in my Pokemon Black.

Even though Whimsicott is the one exclusive to my game, I managed to trade for that Petilil and evolved her into Lilligant.

I have both Pokemon and although Prankster is nice for Whimsicott, it's Lilligant's Own Tempo/Petal Dance combo (no confusion!) and ability to learn Quiver Dance made me say Lilligant.

deoxys121 November 20th, 2011 12:55 PM

They're both really cool, but I have to go with Lilligant. Sweepers are something I'm more likely to use, and Lilligant gets Petal Dance.

miltankRancher November 20th, 2011 7:04 PM

I foresaw this coming. :)

I have not yet used Lilligant in my ingame runs, but it with Quiver Dance was highly notorious for sweeping teams. (might as well try it out sometime).

But, Whimsicott. Ah! Prankster is such an ambrosia for Whimsicott. Leech Seed, Stun Spore, Taunt. Whimsicoot i such a cute annoyer! when I used it in PO, I used sweep teams indefinitely when back up with Whimsicott (though when LO Infernape started appearing, I kinda slowed down). It's design is also great, so I'm going for whimsicott.

Zoey Redbird November 20th, 2011 9:39 PM

I love both of them so much. :/
I haven't used either of them in battle or in-game, so I'll just go off looks.


I picked Whimsicott for its fluffyness. :D

PlatinumDude November 20th, 2011 9:47 PM

Tough choice...

But I decided to settle on Lilligant because it looks pretty and can actually fight back (despite its extremely shallow offensive movepool), unlike Whimsicott. But still, Whimsicott has its perks, including cuteness, fluffiness and a huge support movepool (Prankster makes it even better).

Overlord Drakow November 21st, 2011 1:37 AM

Gotta be Whimsicott for me. So fluffy and cute! Inb4 Forever is like wtf did I just read.

This is my post for the 21st November, Kaori.

Pokemon Trainer Touko November 21st, 2011 1:43 AM

Whimsicott is sooo fluffy and Liligant is sooooo pretty, idek who to pick oAo; Are we allowed to choose both of them? owo;

vaporeon7 November 21st, 2011 4:38 AM

I adore them both but I went with Lilligant. I think Whimsicott is better competitively (although Quiver Dance Lilligant does reck a lot of havoc). It can be really handy with Terrakion when it uses Beat Up and Tailwind. Though I do like Lilligant's appearance better. I also used it on my in-game team in Pokemon White (which makes it a great Pokemon indeed.)

~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~ November 21st, 2011 7:17 AM

Oh my gosh, I hate them both so much (especially in Pokemon Rumble Blast which is another reason why I hate them more). Hmmm appearance wise, I'll pick the fluffy Whimsicott


:t354:TG

Mentalii November 21st, 2011 11:24 AM

Aww that is an hard choice :pink_confused:
Whimsicott remind me Iris, and there's something wrong with Lilligant, I don't know if it is its cry or something else, but each time I see it I sigh of boring.
For the design, none of them convince me. Really.
So, after, for a battle, I think I'd rather use Lilligant. Well, accordingly I choose it !
She can be really annoying while a strategic battle, she already gave me some difficulties as I can remember, contrary to Whimsicott.
And, in BW, Whimsicott is a little unbearable when it's moving :pink_frown: Contrary to Lilligant o/


Squirrel November 21st, 2011 11:27 AM

Lilligant, just because it actually looks like a viable pokemon rather than that annoying fluff ball people like using so much... xD From a battling background, I do enjoy using Lilligant as a sweeper - people just don't expect it. Whereas Whimsicott is pretty widely used nowadays (especially in UU) so it's incredibly easy to counter.

Misheard Whisper November 21st, 2011 1:34 PM

Whimsicott wins out competitively - there's not much contest there, especially with that Prankster set. However, I don't like its design as much. Lilligant has a certain . . . well, elegance is the only word that comes to mind, thanks to its name. It's just much prettier. I don't battle competitively, so I'm largely concerned with ingame, and Lilligant wins there. Big Root + Giga Drain (which is now broken) makes it a decent threat, plus Quiver Dance, as well as the Own Tempo + Petal Dance combo for massive damage. Give it Sleep Powder as well and it's lethal to most ingame teams. So overall, Lilligant wins by a mile.

why am i in this forum did i wander in by mistake

Blue Rose November 21st, 2011 7:16 PM

So hard to choose...ugh...I think I'm going to choose Lilligant. Love 'em both to tears, though.

NidoJosh November 22nd, 2011 2:13 AM

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Whimiscott hands down for me. Prankster Whimiscott is freaking fun to use and is amazingly frustrating to oppose :l.
Whimiscott was one of the more hyped up pokemon that has now dropped down the ranks but still is amazing to cripple opposing teams to allow my sweepers to dominate.

Whimiscott ftw!

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ November 22nd, 2011 6:24 AM

I preferred Lilligant's design and even though it has a very shallow movepool I found something that worked for me... Petal Dance/Sleep Powder/Dream Eater/Leech Seed. Sadly, no way of trapping, but Petal Dance + Own Tempo can still tear through lots of stuff :)

As for Whimsicott... I had White version, so I never used it.

johnny18 November 22nd, 2011 6:45 AM

I love them both..............*raffle* .....It is Lilligant XD

Kenshin5 November 22nd, 2011 5:04 PM

I can't say I was a huge fan of either with the inception of the game. At first Whimsicott design I thought was meh, and I still feel Lilligant design is so closely related to Bellossom which seems like a lack of originality. None the less I still like both Bell and Lilligant concept. I really haven't used either in battle so I really can't say which I would prefer.

Payday November 22nd, 2011 11:42 PM

For me it is Lilligant, for the sole reason that it is nicer-looking. Judging from the equality of the voting so far (17-17), I'd suggest that they are extremely similar and any difference is really a matter of personal preference.

But that's just me.

miltankRancher November 22nd, 2011 11:44 PM

Woah, this is a very close poll.

*crosses fingers*

Whimsicott had tied due to appearance. :\ I find him cuter. :\

Ho-Oh November 22nd, 2011 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miltankRancher (Post 6939898)
Woah, this is a very close poll.

*crosses fingers*

Whimsicott had tied due to appearance. :\ I find him cuter. :\

Yeah, actually what seems to be (and hopefully will be) one of our closest. This is also the poll I've had most of an interest in, largely supporting Whimsicott. I think Whimsicott also might be tied because Lilligant/Petilil had a big following early on (due to a certain moderator!), whereas Whimsicott didn't, and in design, Lilligant technically wins out with the "beautiful" design, and not everyone plays competitively so chances are they aren't aware how awesome Whimsicott is, sadly.

miltankRancher November 23rd, 2011 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6939911)


Yeah, actually what seems to be (and hopefully will be) one of our closest. This is also the poll I've had most of an interest in, largely supporting Whimsicott. I think Whimsicott also might be tied because Lilligant/Petilil had a big following early on (due to a certain moderator!), whereas Whimsicott didn't, and in design, Lilligant technically wins out with the "beautiful" design, and not everyone plays competitively so chances are they aren't aware how awesome Whimsicott is, sadly.

nicely said. I've been always a huge fan of Whimsicott. He is certainly one of the great Pokemon made in generation five. Yes, sadly, the truth is upon us. Not all play compettively, and many just based favoritism on appearances, and not usability. (though, I'm not saying that Lilligant is unusable. In fatc her own tempo + petal dance combo is deadly.) It's just Lilligant has a more obvious advantage over Whimsicott.

The poll is not yet finish. Have faith brothers.

Archer November 23rd, 2011 12:14 AM

Whimsicott. It's so FLUFFY! It also reminds me of Jumpluff, which I used to love using. I can't say I've used either, though. From a quick glance over, Whimsicott wins on the usability side of things. If Lilligant had more than just Grass offensive moves, then it might stand a chance, but it's just walled way too easily.

TheGr8 November 23rd, 2011 1:02 AM

Whimsi mainly because of prankster but it is one of the most annoying pokemon to play against, its kinda like if you don't have one get one :)

treecko's awesomeness November 24th, 2011 11:15 AM

Solely based on design, I'd have to say Whimsicott. Lilligant seems like a bit too much of a Bellossom clone.

TY November 24th, 2011 11:24 AM

Lilligant, because of it's Ability which prevents it from Confusion.
Useful for Petal Dance

Pkmn Trainer Touko November 24th, 2011 2:41 PM

Lilligant! She's so beautiful! <3

Kaleidoscop November 24th, 2011 6:50 PM

Whimsicott because of his design. He is an epic elfman, with great quirks that i can easily use.

A Pixy November 25th, 2011 7:03 PM

That 'fro cracks me up every single time.

Legendary Silke November 25th, 2011 8:50 PM

Lilligant because it grew on me after all these days, and I can relate to it more than Whimsicott. Petal Dance + Own Tempo is also a killer when you can get Lilligant to hit first. I know that Whimsicott can use status moves first in almost every case, but... I'm not sure whether having no direct attacks suits my style.

chella182 November 26th, 2011 10:33 AM

I went for Lilligant. They're both pretty cute, but I don't know... just something about Lilligant draws me to it more than Whimsicott. I don't use either on my team, though. My Grass-type on my team is either Maractus or Virizion.

Cherrim November 26th, 2011 11:38 AM

Whimsicott is quickly becoming one of my new favourite Pokémon. It is so cute and so fluffy. I finally used one in my most recent playthrough and it was easily my favourite Pokémon on my team, even if it wasn't all that useful. xD;

(What? You wanted me to base my answer around battling? Pfft.)

Thrash November 26th, 2011 11:40 AM

Oh, this is so much more difficult than it should be! Whimsicott is so broken useful competitively, and the fact it's so fluffy and adorable makes it so marvelous. But Lilligant is so elegant and wonderful in-game and I just want to have a tea-party with one.

Eh, I pick Whimsicott. Dat Prankster.

Ho-Oh November 26th, 2011 11:50 PM

Okay unstickying for now, you still have a couple more hours to vote buuuut Whimsicott totally deserves to win, just saying! :3 /soexcited

I'll "bold" the winner later!

Hikamaru November 27th, 2011 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever (Post 6944145)
Okay unstickying for now, you still have a couple more hours to vote buuuut Whimsicott totally deserves to win, just saying! :3 /soexcited

I'll "bold" the winner later!

Nica, I think that Whimsicott has won by only one vote. The closest so far I think.

Adam Levine November 27th, 2011 2:51 AM

I use Whimsicott throughout white. I like Pokemon not in the version I'm using.

Hikamaru November 27th, 2011 3:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelomanalo (Post 6944323)
I use Whimsicott throughout white. I like Pokemon not in the version I'm using.

That's because you can trade a Petilil for a Cottonee in White and vice versa in Black.

Melinda November 27th, 2011 7:56 AM

Whimiscott for sure.
She just decimated the 5th gym in my White game for me. xD

Lilligant is pretty though so I might try her out later.

Ho-Oh November 27th, 2011 8:39 AM

WHIMSICOTT WINS YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

...as you see, I'm very excited about that. Definitely the most edge-of-the-seat poll we've had yet. XD

(Yes I decided to count down).

Conaire January 22nd, 2012 11:34 PM

I am more used to Whimsicott, but I completely suck with it, also with Lilligant. I am not much of a grass type user at all.
I though have seen Whimsicott prove themself more in wi-fi battles then Lilligants who just get pounded in the first few turns. A Whimsicott with Tailwind and Beat Up and a Terrakion wiped me easily. Lilligant is a Sweeper and Whimsicott is a Utility/Support type. They shouldn't be compared to me at all.

The Nightmare January 24th, 2012 2:21 PM

i would choose lilligant because it learns good moves than whimsicott.

princefarsi16 January 25th, 2012 10:22 PM

I'd like to put their abilities aside since they're both competitive. Whimsicott won my vote because I find it cuter than Lilligant. I just love that cotton-like thing in its back.

iMezzo January 27th, 2012 3:33 AM

I love Whimsicott! I bought White, but was kinda disappointed with Lilligant. At least she's still pretty... :/

Gulpin January 28th, 2012 3:14 PM

Whimsicott Whimsicott Whimsicott. I love this fluffy little prankster. At first, I was a follower of Petilil and Lilligant, liking Petilil's design over Cottonee and liking Lilligant because I liked Petilil. However, this all changed when I saw Lilligant's backsprite. My only question is why? Why does Lilligant have that horrid ugly cape thing? After noticing the atrocity that Lilligant is design wise I changed gears, noticing Whimsicott's lovely, fluffy, deceiving design. I love the horns and its small body and it's huge mane of cotton. Though I still prefer Petilil over Cottonee, I love Whimsicott's design ten times more than I love Lilligant's. And I didn't even mention how much I love Whimsicott's shiny colors!

TwiDragon January 28th, 2012 3:31 PM

Lilligant!

I love the gijinkas of it, and its adorable <3

vizarod February 6th, 2012 6:40 PM

I'm not sure who I'd pick. Whimsicott is cuter, but Lilligant seems tougher to me because it was always so hard for me to beat.


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