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22sa December 2nd, 2011 2:01 AM

Purpose of Member Fan Clubs
 
I realize everybody's use to Visitor Messaging by now, but I wish to point out some problems...

As an older member, it's not that fun to just butt into kiddy convos on the forum. There's just too much conflict of interests, it just doesn't work. Hence what's left of PC for people like me is the likes of Visitor Messaging. It's painstakingly hard to find an actual thread to post in.

Nothing wrong with Visitor Messaging, but it's not a forum discussion that's going on. Other people can't naturally join in, our themes can't contribute to the discussion environment... it's just not posting as it should be.

I'm asking for the sake of older members who still want to have fun actually posting to bring back Member Fan Clubs to PC.

Doesn't hurt to bring back that forum does it? I want it be left open for people who want to use it to use it, now and in the future of PC when there'll be bigger and bigger generation gaps.

Aquacorde December 2nd, 2011 2:21 AM

Wasn't the reason for it being taken down was that people were feeling left out/unpopular if they didn't get one? Or was it just because it was considered fairly spammy with the increasing popularity of VMs idk.

But I'd like 'em back tbh. Didn't really get around to enjoying them while they existed, which is a sad thing. They seemed fun.

Ho-Oh December 2nd, 2011 2:30 AM

Member fanclubs were becoming inactive and only about 2-3 were posted in often enough before they were closed. Even so, only six were posted in during the last month of its existence and unless there was lots of interest shown now I don't see them returning. Yes, there are other forums which are more inactive, but there's also the fact that the vm system really does cover that as mentioned, whereas other forums don't really have a whole system for activity to locate to.

But yeah, to be honest, with the amount of DCC's in every section (back in the past there weren't nearly as many DCCs, now I think there's at least 6 or so), that also makes up for this too, imo. Since even OC's allows anyone to jump in the conversation at any time, and it doesn't necessarily have to be "how was your day?" because you can discover that from the actual vms.

You've also got OVP/C&M/etc for the non-Pokemon discussions, too, so I see it pretty much completely covered. Really in the past there were a lot less discussion threads too in general from what I noticed, whereas now they are a lot more common. I'm by no means against member fanclubs, though, they just seem somewhat redundant when you compare how the forum has changed from when they were around to now.

22sa December 2nd, 2011 2:43 AM

Yes it became unpopular, but it doesn't hurt leaving it as an option for those who still want to use it. The fact is VMing isn't the same as forum discussion after all.

We have a long history with Member Fan Clubs, it shouldn't be bad to give it more credit and leave it available.

Alternative December 2nd, 2011 4:02 AM

I wasn't around when Member Fanclubs were a happy-funtime place, but I don't like the reasons for bringing them back. It's essentially talking off-topic in a club which you may be friends with a person and find new friends because of a mutual interest or whatever. The biggest thing which I don't like is that it can bring in some form of sucking up to other members which may be more likeable than others. It may not seem like a well-reasoned argument but yeah I really don't know what I'm talking about. I'm not really for bringing them back, since they would be off-topic chats about nothing, which really does belong in the Daily Chit Chat thread.

bobandbill December 2nd, 2011 4:40 AM

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I'm asking for the sake of older members who still want to have fun actually posting to bring back Member Fan Clubs to PC.
Not all old members were interested in member fan clubs to begin with or still are, tbh. =/

They always seemed somewhat spammy in nature as well as cliquey. I wouldn't be for them coming back at all. They're not the same as VMing, no, but the basic point of talking to the member is still there and forums move on with such additions after al. Always going to be things added (like blogs) and dropped (like that section and social groups).

Shining Raichu December 2nd, 2011 4:42 AM

I'm going to throw in my support for them as well. Granted, I wasn't around for them, I think they were long before my time, but I've heard a lot about them and I think they sounded like a lot of fun. I think if there was a reason for something to exist once, there's reason for it to exist again.

If it fails it fails, but how will we know unless we try?

bobandbill December 2nd, 2011 4:51 AM

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I think if there was a reason for something to exist once, there's reason for it to exist again.
I disagree - I don't think that something being relevant once in the past (and this section was only active years ago - before it was removed it was inactive quite considerably by all reports) means it should be brought back, and not with MFC. And although it's not the same as VMing (or PMing or contacting the member via msn/etc which is offered via the contact tab on everyone's profile, and as mentioned the various chat threads we have in a number of sections), I don't see much that it specifically offers over all the other options that makes it a good enough reason to be brought back given the previous lack of interest and other points raised.

Also unsure on how much of an impact stuff like:
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our themes can't contribute to the discussion environment...
If that's one of its saving graces I don't see much going for it then, imho. =/ (And somewhat of a moot point given how many people spend a lot of time making fancy profile themes on which VMs are carried out upon as well).

seeker December 2nd, 2011 6:24 AM

There's just no point in having a section with 2 or 3 active threads for the purpose of being a fan club. That's about it.

22sa December 4th, 2011 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Alternative (Post 6950307)
I wasn't around when Member Fanclubs were a happy-funtime place, but I don't like the reasons for bringing them back. It's essentially talking off-topic in a club which you may be friends with a person and find new friends because of a mutual interest or whatever. The biggest thing which I don't like is that it can bring in some form of sucking up to other members which may be more likeable than others. It may not seem like a well-reasoned argument but yeah I really don't know what I'm talking about. I'm not really for bringing them back, since they would be off-topic chats about nothing, which really does belong in the Daily Chit Chat thread.

Like I said - the generation gaps that exist in the current large and diverse PC makes it too hard for the DCC to serve everyone. You say it they belong in the DCC, but the DCC has annoying rules like you have to say something related to the topic at hand. What if that topic has nothing to do with me? Am I just to quit posting, lose any hope of having fun here and come back later? And I don't want to be disrespectful to the other people there just because of my own lack of interest in the current DCC topic either. But Member Fan Clubs would make up for the times when one can't join in the DCC - and I'm sure you can imagine how many people would look at the DCC each day just to leave without posting because they can't contribute to it. But Member Fan Clubs just might help those people keeping posting on PC.

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 6950328)
Not all old members were interested in member fan clubs to begin with or still are, tbh. =/

They always seemed somewhat spammy in nature as well as cliquey. I wouldn't be for them coming back at all. They're not the same as VMing, no, but the basic point of talking to the member is still there and forums move on with such additions after al. Always going to be things added (like blogs) and dropped (like that section and social groups).

Posting enthusiasts like myself were interested. Of course, if you don't have any use for the forum. But I do. I'm sure there's nothing wrong with leaving it available to me, is there.

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Originally Posted by Shining Raichu (Post 6950330)
I'm going to throw in my support for them as well. Granted, I wasn't around for them, I think they were long before my time, but I've heard a lot about them and I think they sounded like a lot of fun. I think if there was a reason for something to exist once, there's reason for it to exist again.

If it fails it fails, but how will we know unless we try?

Check it out, the once biggest forum on PC, Member Fan Clubs: http://www.pokecommunity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=72

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Originally Posted by bobandbill (Post 6950336)
I disagree - I don't think that something being relevant once in the past (and this section was only active years ago - before it was removed it was inactive quite considerably by all reports) means it should be brought back, and not with MFC. And although it's not the same as VMing (or PMing or contacting the member via msn/etc which is offered via the contact tab on everyone's profile, and as mentioned the various chat threads we have in a number of sections), I don't see much that it specifically offers over all the other options that makes it a good enough reason to be brought back given the previous lack of interest and other points raised.

Also unsure on how much of an impact stuff like:
If that's one of its saving graces I don't see much going for it then, imho. =/ (And somewhat of a moot point given how many people spend a lot of time making fancy profile themes on which VMs are carried out upon as well).

It's actually one the reasons I joined PC - we allow bigger avatars and flashier than every other forum I know. We're a community of graphic artists. It matters to me and the identity of PC.

Btw, in view conversation mode you can't see the pretty profiles, only small avatars. Don't you think that minimizes the experience?
On the other hand, viewing a thread conversation everything is there.

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Originally Posted by Abnegation (Post 6950383)
There's just no point in having a section with 2 or 3 active threads for the purpose of being a fan club. That's about it.

Or PC can respect those few members who still use it, and leave it open for improvement.

Member Fan Clubs deserves more credit than PC gives to it right now.

With new members everyday, who knows what will happen ? Let them have a choice whether to use Member Fan Clubs or not.

Alternative December 5th, 2011 12:03 AM

I'll be honest, those are the points which I feel means they don't need it. They really were a spamfest back in the day. There'd still be the rules about spamming whatever if it's not relevant to the thread though, like if A fanclub about me was made, and we were talking about how much I like Boldore and that doesn't interest you, you wouldn't be allowed to waltz in and change the topic either.

As for your posting thing, I do feel like it's a nice way to make friends and stuff through a mutual friendship; I've even done it with people in the past. I'd also have no problem with this coming back either, so long as post count was banned there. I still don't totally agree with the idea, but I wouldn't turn a blind eye to it.

donavannj December 5th, 2011 7:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Alternative (Post 6954029)
I'll be honest, those are the points which I feel means they don't need it. They really were a spamfest back in the day. There'd still be the rules about spamming whatever if it's not relevant to the thread though, like if A fanclub about me was made, and we were talking about how much I like Boldore and that doesn't interest you, you wouldn't be allowed to waltz in and change the topic either.

As for your posting thing, I do feel like it's a nice way to make friends and stuff through a mutual friendship; I've even done it with people in the past. I'd also have no problem with this coming back either, so long as post count was banned there. I still don't totally agree with the idea, but I wouldn't turn a blind eye to it.

Post count was pretty much always turned off for the duration of the existence of Member Fanclubs, if my memory serves.

Nick December 5th, 2011 7:57 AM

To put it into some kind of perspective, the entire h-staff agreed (which doesn't happen often!) with removing member fan clubs for all the reasons stated, so even if one of us were to humor the idea, it'd probably be turned down nearly immediately. The three major reasons being: the section was pretty dead and there were only eight active threads there for months, VMs, and they weren't what they used to be. They became huge spam pits and personal admiration threads for pretty much everyone.

I can understand why you and some other longterm members would want them back, since they were very big back in the day, but we can't hold onto things and keep them around because they were big back in the day. There'd be no progression if we used that for making community decisions. VMs replaced them. It's really as simple as that. If you want to use what Member Fan Clubs was for, just host it all on their VMs. People post messages to each other expressing something about the person's VMs they're posting on all the time these days.

Also, there's not enough need or interest in reinstating them enough for putting them back. We wouldn't create a forum in the first place unless those things were there, and they aren't.

22sa December 5th, 2011 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Alternative (Post 6954029)
I'll be honest, those are the points which I feel means they don't need it. They really were a spamfest back in the day. There'd still be the rules about spamming whatever if it's not relevant to the thread though, like if A fanclub about me was made, and we were talking about how much I like Boldore and that doesn't interest you, you wouldn't be allowed to waltz in and change the topic either.

As for your posting thing, I do feel like it's a nice way to make friends and stuff through a mutual friendship; I've even done it with people in the past. I'd also have no problem with this coming back either, so long as post count was banned there. I still don't totally agree with the idea, but I wouldn't turn a blind eye to it.

The post count isn't fundamental to me, I just want the extra posting environment because I don't want to just walk away from PC when no topics interest me.

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Originally Posted by donavannj (Post 6954307)
Post count was pretty much always turned off for the duration of the existence of Member Fanclubs, if my memory serves.

They were on at the beginning, but were turned off later.

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Originally Posted by Patchisou Yutohru (Post 6954329)
To put it into some kind of perspective, the entire h-staff agreed (which doesn't happen often!) with removing member fan clubs for all the reasons stated, so even if one of us were to humor the idea, it'd probably be turned down nearly immediately. The three major reasons being: the section was pretty dead and there were only eight active threads there for months, VMs, and they weren't what they used to be. They became huge spam pits and personal admiration threads for pretty much everyone.

I can understand why you and some other longterm members would want them back, since they were very big back in the day, but we can't hold onto things and keep them around because they were big back in the day. There'd be no progression if we used that for making community decisions. VMs replaced them. It's really as simple as that. If you want to use what Member Fan Clubs was for, just host it all on their VMs. People post messages to each other expressing something about the person's VMs they're posting on all the time these days.

Also, there's not enough need or interest in reinstating them enough for putting them back. We wouldn't create a forum in the first place unless those things were there, and they aren't.

I'm not sure on this one - but isn't the H-staff bored with PC? How often do you see the H-staff posting? Because if so they shouldn't ruin it for members who still have fun a forum they don't approve of any longer.

That's not all! I wasn't just saying it was once big and wonderful. I am comparing VMing and posting - and I prefer posting, so I want more posting options.

Well I'll agree with your last point... nobody still left on PC right now seems to really care but me. :P But it can't hurt to leave the option open can it? Try opening MFC again for a month or so, see if things change. It's not bad to experiment.

Ivysaur December 5th, 2011 10:54 AM

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I'm not sure on this one - but isn't the H-staff bored with PC? How often do you see the H-staff posting? Because if so they shouldn't ruin it for members who still have fun a forum they don't approve of any longer.
Well, huh, Nick himself is Higher Staff (and so am I), and we do post often, so it's not like we are weird martians who hide in a cave and only randomly visit the surface to ban people XD

And I'm sorry, but a forum which only got 55 posts in a month (not even two a day, and most of them from the same small group of regulars) and had only seen one new thread created in 4 months is not really worth keeping. If a TV show was only being watched by 10,000 people, I know those few people would miss it, but the station would figure that it's not worth keeping at all. And that's what we did, I'm sorry. 99% of the posts made in those forums are just "Hey what's up", "Happy birthday!" or "Hey, what do you think about lettuce?" and that can effortlessly be asked on VM's- in fact, that's what everybody did once they were introduced, and that's the main reason for MF's downfall. And, in some way, VM's are more open for everybody and easier to use so I'll stay with them.

Livewire December 5th, 2011 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 22sa (Post 6954008)
You say it they belong in the DCC, but the DCC has annoying rules like you have to say something related to the topic at hand.

You don't post there, so how would you know? I'm pretty lax with the DCC in Other Chat, It's purpose is to be a laid back, hangout thread with light discussion.

We're not going to be bringing back personal spam pits. Either deal with that, or I humbly direct you to the log-out button in the top-right hand corner of your screen.

luke December 5th, 2011 12:10 PM

Normally I'd be open to bringing stuff back but the Member Fanclubs were just awful, awful things.

Taemin December 5th, 2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 22sa (Post 6954434)
The post count isn't fundamental to me, I just want the extra posting environment because I don't want to just walk away from PC when no topics interest me.

If member fanclubs were what mainly held you to PC, then I'm sorry that they're gone, and we know that there were a handful or two of members who still felt attached to that area. The thing is we watched that area die down, a lot, and plenty of it's regulars even said they left the area and all their threads because VMs was much easier and they preferred that. I enjoyed that area too, it was just losing too much activity.

At the same time, if PC still really truly interests you then I'd bet you could find other topics to post in. Hang around OVP more, or game areas, etc. If you get into it enough then some other aspects can make up for member fanclubs being gone.

And I'm sorry if I ignored other posts / points in this thread, I'm about to leave for work. Rushed! D:

Nick December 6th, 2011 5:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 22sa (Post 6954434)
I'm not sure on this one - but isn't the H-staff bored with PC? How often do you see the H-staff posting? Because if so they shouldn't ruin it for members who still have fun a forum they don't approve of any longer.

That's not all! I wasn't just saying it was once big and wonderful. I am comparing VMing and posting - and I prefer posting, so I want more posting options.

Well I'll agree with your last point... nobody still left on PC right now seems to really care but me. :P But it can't hurt to leave the option open can it? Try opening MFC again for a month or so, see if things change. It's not bad to experiment.

Contrary to popular belief, decisions aren't made on bias. They're usually discussed and analyzed from all perspectives for a great deal amount of time before a decision is made and implemented. Being active and posting in the forum isn't necessarily needed to know what's best for it. Like Jake said, this wasn't done on a whim, and decisions that impact the community never are.

I know, and I totally get that. I do. But to bring back member fan clubs so many things need to happen other than you just preferring posting to VMs, which is what my last point was mainly about. There needs to be a demand and sufficient need for it other than just preferring one to the other.

seeker December 6th, 2011 6:32 AM

I agree with Nick and Jake here, the bottom line is PC can't simply open up sections for a tiny minority of members. The decision to abolish the section in the past was not based on a whim. It simply ran its course and no longer found a place on the forum; it simply became outdated and it became a section that was simply a haven to a few members.

I understand that you may feel hard done by, but you can't point fingers and say the section was taken down by carelessness. If we were to create a section for a very small base of members, then it would be quite subjective as it would mean sections would need to be created for any small group of members who decided they wanted one. Member Fan Clubs simply ran its course and became an inactive section in which became an inactive sub forum with very little activity. Bringing it back would only lead to the same end result.

If you wish to find a place for all your friends to chat, well, it's the internet, your options are endless. You could even set up your own irc channel for your PC pals. But basically; a section cannot simply exist if it has little or no activity and a very small demand to actually exist.

Chikara December 6th, 2011 6:23 PM

i thought this said "propose to a member" and i was like IM ALL OVER THAT. then i got let down.

I miss Member fanclubs solely because I had one that my friends could spam and we could have great fun in togetherness. But it was just that. Spam.

Sooo, I'm not really upset at all that they were taken down. VMs are basically the same thing, if not more convenient. Yeah it's a bit harder to have a conversation with a lot of people, but having VMs defeats the purpose of a member fanclub.

Taemin December 6th, 2011 10:23 PM

Mmmhmm.

I met my first friends here thanks to member fanclubs existing, because I had one, ran one, and participated in a few more. Though, it was organized chaos, and well.. spam, like Igiko said. The purpose of that area was to create a way to meet people, and chit-chat. These days the same can be done through VMs, and if you wanna talk to more than one person at time and group chat, that's why so many people go ahead and add PC friends on messenger clients..

22sa December 6th, 2011 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Went (Post 6954485)


Well, huh, Nick himself is Higher Staff (and so am I), and we do post often, so it's not like we are weird martians who hide in a cave and only randomly visit the surface to ban people XD

And I'm sorry, but a forum which only got 55 posts in a month (not even two a day, and most of them from the same small group of regulars) and had only seen one new thread created in 4 months is not really worth keeping. If a TV show was only being watched by 10,000 people, I know those few people would miss it, but the station would figure that it's not worth keeping at all. And that's what we did, I'm sorry. 99% of the posts made in those forums are just "Hey what's up", "Happy birthday!" or "Hey, what do you think about lettuce?" and that can effortlessly be asked on VM's- in fact, that's what everybody did once they were introduced, and that's the main reason for MF's downfall. And, in some way, VM's are more open for everybody and easier to use so I'll stay with them.

Sorry, I thought higher staff meant those with Red names and above. Didn't mean to point at Super Moderators. Yes I see you guys.

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6954498)


You don't post there, so how would you know? I'm pretty lax with the DCC in Other Chat, It's purpose is to be a laid back, hangout thread with light discussion.

We're not going to be bringing back personal spam pits. Either deal with that, or I humbly direct you to the log-out button in the top-right hand corner of your screen.

>_> Don't you ever feel like there's times you're bothering them in DCC? People are different, after all, hence why I'd like more options.

Oh, and to clarify again, logging out is what I'm trying to avoid hence why I made the effort of making this thread in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Luke (Post 6954547)
Normally I'd be open to bringing stuff back but the Member Fanclubs were just awful, awful things.

You think they're too spammy and needless?

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Originally Posted by Drew (Post 6954559)


If member fanclubs were what mainly held you to PC, then I'm sorry that they're gone, and we know that there were a handful or two of members who still felt attached to that area. The thing is we watched that area die down, a lot, and plenty of it's regulars even said they left the area and all their threads because VMs was much easier and they preferred that. I enjoyed that area too, it was just losing too much activity.

At the same time, if PC still really truly interests you then I'd bet you could find other topics to post in. Hang around OVP more, or game areas, etc. If you get into it enough then some other aspects can make up for member fanclubs being gone.

And I'm sorry if I ignored other posts / points in this thread, I'm about to leave for work. Rushed! D:

I suppose hope is the main reason to stay, not MFC activity.

Thing is most people who replied called MFC spam but I treated it differently. For example, take a glimsp the 2 most recent MFCs I took big part pf:
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=200120
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=133478

^ You can't actually call that spam right? I was earnest trying to get trying to make fun threads.

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 6955548)
While we're all-ears for providing environments for posting as people demand it, as you might see if you wade through some pages of CQ&F (most recently, someone suggested splitting OE, for example) we've turned down things based on whether we see a need for them or not.

I'd like to see your suggestions in opening more avenues for discussion, but I don't see any purpose in simply having member-oriented "random" discussions as you seem to be trying to bring up. If we believe a new idea is worth trying, we might follow through with it.

There were a lot of factors taken into account to the removal of Member Fanclubs. Don't think this would be a decision done on a whim.

The purpose when entering a Member Fan Club is the crowd, or social group that's there, or "home." It's just something to make up for the large diversity of PC members today. Diversity is a great asset of course, just that it leaves an alienation problem which I'm trying to say Member Fan Clubs could help make up for, instead of just relying on VMing. It's nice to know there's at least a few threads one can easily fit into. Today that nice feeling is replaced by having people to VM. Great, but like I said, I'd really rather somewhere to post so that it's more natural for others to join too.

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Originally Posted by Patchisou Yutohru (Post 6955571)
Contrary to popular belief, decisions aren't made on bias. They're usually discussed and analyzed from all perspectives for a great deal amount of time before a decision is made and implemented. Being active and posting in the forum isn't necessarily needed to know what's best for it. Like Jake said, this wasn't done on a whim, and decisions that impact the community never are.

I know, and I totally get that. I do. But to bring back member fan clubs so many things need to happen other than you just preferring posting to VMs, which is what my last point was mainly about. There needs to be a demand and sufficient need for it other than just preferring one to the other.

lol all right. Until more people miss MFC then.

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Originally Posted by Abnegation (Post 6955593)
I agree with Nick and Jake here, the bottom line is PC can't simply open up sections for a tiny minority of members. The decision to abolish the section in the past was not based on a whim. It simply ran its course and no longer found a place on the forum; it simply became outdated and it became a section that was simply a haven to a few members.

I understand that you may feel hard done by, but you can't point fingers and say the section was taken down by carelessness. If we were to create a section for a very small base of members, then it would be quite subjective as it would mean sections would need to be created for any small group of members who decided they wanted one. Member Fan Clubs simply ran its course and became an inactive section in which became an inactive sub forum with very little activity. Bringing it back would only lead to the same end result.

If you wish to find a place for all your friends to chat, well, it's the internet, your options are endless. You could even set up your own irc channel for your PC pals. But basically; a section cannot simply exist if it has little or no activity and a very small demand to actually exist.

It could be different now. There's a flood of new members after every game release after all. Why not give MFC a try again some time, if only temporary? There could be more people like me who could use that forum.

o_O I'm talking out of concern for a more fun forum, private solutions IRC are besides the point.

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Originally Posted by Igiko (Post 6956269)
i thought this said "propose to a member" and i was like IM ALL OVER THAT. then i got let down.

I miss Member fanclubs solely because I had one that my friends could spam and we could have great fun in togetherness. But it was just that. Spam.

Sooo, I'm not really upset at all that they were taken down. VMs are basically the same thing, if not more convenient. Yeah it's a bit harder to have a conversation with a lot of people, but having VMs defeats the purpose of a member fanclub.

I didn't treat MFC as spam though:
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=200120
http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=133478


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Originally Posted by Drew (Post 6956517)
Mmmhmm.

I met my first friends here thanks to member fanclubs existing, because I had one, ran one, and participated in a few more. Though, it was organized chaos, and well.. spam, like Igiko said. The purpose of that area was to create a way to meet people, and chit-chat. These days the same can be done through VMs, and if you wanna talk to more than one person at time and group chat, that's why so many people go ahead and add PC friends on messenger clients..

IRC, MSN and the such are private solutions which lack the purpose of potentially meeting more people on PC through one's social activities here. It'd be a different story I had to option of entering any MSN convo you create like the case on the forums.

Oryx December 6th, 2011 11:35 PM

IRC is open to anyone that knows how to log on, by either clicking the chat button or going to Mibbit and logging on that way. You could even put it into your signature "If you're a fan of X member, join #IloveX" or whatever it is you want clubs back for. There are also 7 Chit-Chat threads (Trade Corner, Competitive Battling Center, Challenges, Pokemon General, Art Gallery, Culture & Media, and OC), and various other threads that aren't chit-chat but you can still meet people through based on your interests. If after all those options you still can't find one thing that interests you, I hate to say that it might not be a problem with the site. :x

Chikara December 6th, 2011 11:37 PM

Just because you didn't treat them as spam parties, doesn't mean everyone else didn't either.

I know I did, lolz.

Livewire December 6th, 2011 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 22sa (Post 6956556)
>_> Don't you ever feel like there's times you're bothering them in DCC? People are different, after all, hence why I'd like more options.

Bothering whom? It's not like people are being physically forced to post there. You have plenty of options.

22sa December 6th, 2011 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Toujours (Post 6956559)
IRC is open to anyone that knows how to log on, by either clicking the chat button or going to Mibbit and logging on that way. You could even put it into your signature "If you're a fan of X member, join #IloveX" or whatever it is you want clubs back for. There are also 7 Chit-Chat threads (Trade Corner, Competitive Battling Center, Challenges, Pokemon General, Art Gallery, Culture & Media, and OC), and various other threads that aren't chit-chat but you can still meet people through based on your interests. If after all those options you still can't find one thing that interests you, I hate to say that it might not be a problem with the site. :x

But none of those are Member Fan Clubs

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Originally Posted by Igiko (Post 6956561)
Just because you didn't treat them as spam parties, doesn't mean everyone else didn't either.

I know I did, lolz.

Spam parties are pretty good things still if they're still fun parties.

Yes I know what you mean, hence why my idea isn't popular ~_~

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Originally Posted by Live_Wire466 (Post 6956564)


Bothering whom? It's not like people are being physically forced to post there. You have plenty of options.

Yes but I don't like interrupting when it seems... they'd be much better off without me. Anyway, I guess that's my own social problem.

Well MFC would be a nice option.

donavannj December 6th, 2011 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 22sa (Post 6956556)
>_> Don't you ever feel like there's times you're bothering them in DCC? People are different, after all, hence why I'd like more options.

Believe me, you're never bothering anyone in a general chit-chat thread on PC just by posting there. If no one talks to you, you've either brought up something they know very little about or the people who've made it a point to frequent the thread aren't on. In your case, your post count probably intimidates newer members more than you realize. Many newer members think a post count of 1000 is quite high, let alone a post count over 8,000 like yours or mine.


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