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January 10th, 2012 4:01 PM |
HI GUYS TIME FOR REPLIES. Remember this "discussion" is all in fun. :) And not to take anything said offensively, etc.
Also, I'm only referring to the anime to back up my points in general - in most B/W threads unless you're debating/discussing something like this, then the anime isn't really suited to be mentioned.
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Originally Posted by Elite Overlord LeSabre™
(Post 7003741)
It's just a Pokemon *shot*
Well, look at it this way. There are also Doctor and Nurse trainers who also exist to heal your Pokemon, but they want you to battle them and in fact won't heal you until you defeat them. Now, I'm not stating this is fact, but there is a possiblilty that Audino has the same opinion... you must battle it in order to take advantage of its healing powers. Maybe you have to prove yourself by not falling for its cute facade and go at it full-on in order to be deemed worthy of a Heal Pulse from it.
At least that's what I tell myself so I don't feel guilty lol
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Audino can't talk, how do we know that Audino does have the same motives as doctors/nurses? Also that last part sounds kind of... unlikely.
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Originally Posted by Blade_of_darkness
(Post 7003882)
This is the closest that I could get for a response in this. I'd like to bring up one other point: If beating Audinos into a bloody pulp is considered morally wrong, then shouldn't fighting & killing those infant Pokémon (Elekid, Smoochum, Azurill, etc.) also be wrong from a moral standpoint?
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Sure but again: these Pokemon want to fight, Audino doesn't.
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Originally Posted by OrdealByFire
(Post 7003896)
Shouldn't it be wrong to kill any cute Pokemon too then?
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Even if Audino was still ugly, it'd still want to heal you, how its designed shouldn't make a difference. :(
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Originally Posted by TheRedeemed
(Post 7003955)
This kinda reminds me of the whole animal argument like "AH! Don't kill the cute fluffy dog/cat/horse/other popular animal while I go eat my pork chop"
People feel worse about hurting/killing cute things because of how society raised us to coo over and coddle them. Personally I don't feel worse about fainting an Audino than a Tropus, because they're all Pokemon.
And like Blade_of_Darkness said, I think the real shame should come from fainting a baby/low level Pokemon that really can't defend itself. Audino just chooses to help you out is all, it could just as easily use Slap and fight back. (? Can they learn that? I'll go look).
Edit - Well, they can use Pound from the start. Ok.
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A Tropius doesn't try to heal you when you're hurt, a Tropius doesn't have something that makes life easier for you in-game. Aaand while it can fight back, maybe most Audino's are taught not to fight by other Audino's, considering their main role is to help others. Kinda like oh let's say Pikachu in the Mewtwo movie where it could fight back against the clone, but chose not to, and as a result had to suffer. Audino isn't known to run away mid-battle, either...
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Originally Posted by MissDigitalis
(Post 7004117)
Sometimes I feel bad about harming any pokemon but the thing to remember is that pokemon love to battle. They were born to do it. If I encountered an audino I'd probably battle it with a severely weak pokemon in my party like a baby pokemon.
If Pokemon were real however I doubt I'd ever fight an audino because it seems so sweet. I think I'd have an issue with pokemon battles in general IRL but since it's just a video game and the Pokemon sustain no real damage I'm ok with it.
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That's why I said forget it's a Pokemon game, and rather think in general, and at that point it does seem wrong, really. And no, not all Pokemon love to battle, it has been proved various times throughout both games and anime where Pokemon have simply not wanted to fight.
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Originally Posted by Killjoy
(Post 7004125)
If we don't kill it something else will. Survival of the fittest Lol
But, in real life when faced with a creature not trying to hurt me, not even just minding it's own business, but going out of it's way to help me? I would never try to harm it, for I am neither an awful person, or a violent sociopath
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Not really - in-game you don't know whether wild Pokemon do hurt other wild Pokemon in Unova, I certainly haven't heard any cases of it. What if humans are the only ones that are doing this?
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Originally Posted by Scarf
(Post 7004196)
Game mechanics give you a big reward for knocking Audino out, but I can't see that actually doing anything to help train your own Pokemon if Pokemon were even remotely realistic. If it weren't a game and more like real life or even the anime then it would be really hard to justify beating up on them. It's not likely that you're fighting them off in self-defense. (They aren't exactly harmful.)
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But why are you rewarded? Why is it something that should be praised (hurting such an innocent Pokemon)? Is it that we lack Team Rocket so as a result WE are the bad guys?
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Originally Posted by Renegade1
(Post 7004215)
If anything, we should just hunt them out and KO them.
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Why?
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Originally Posted by JustSomeKidd
(Post 7004226)
This is exactly the kind of thinking that Team Plasma grunts had when they were recruited as tools for world domination. They're all left wing liberal fools. If we're thinking of this in a realistic sense, then it should be obvious that Audino's HAVE the right to run, or simply deny the fact that they even want to battle at all. Unless there's some evil 3rd party that bends their will and works independently from us that forces them to battle, then no, this is not wrong at all. But also, since when did the human race ever think about it before killing inferior species in order to further its petty wishes? 5 bucks all of you have eaten a variation of chicken within the past month. It's not a question of right or wrong, it's a matter of progression and the quickest way to reach the oh so beloved number one hundred.
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In regards to the last part: We don't eat Audino. We eat meat. Your point? It's not like killing Audino helps you survive in-game, especially when there are LOADS of trainers and Nimbasa provides many. What does that say about life, take the easy way out instead of fight for what's right?
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Originally Posted by Yoshikkko
(Post 7004230)
Uhhh no lol? Audino is just another Pokémon. I believe Chansey wants to heal people too but it gets beaten up plenty of times!! it is just game data
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Chansey never actually does heal people when you battle it though, only in a hospital setting. This makes me think that those Chanseys in particular are domesticated, but normal ones aren't, while Audino is kind wherever it is.
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