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Jayster23 February 17th, 2012 9:31 PM

Welcome FT
You just need to add one little thing to your post :)

miltankRancher February 18th, 2012 9:19 PM

Welcome to the club! I think we need a new topic.

What did you do to the Red Gyrados?

i captured it, and boxed it immediately. I mean, I was doing a monobug run, so I really have no use for him.

Sector February 18th, 2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by miltankRancher (Post 7053293)
Welcome to the club! I think we need a new topic.

What did you do to the Red Gyrados?

i captured it, and boxed it immediately. I mean, I was doing a monobug run, so I really have no use for him.

Same...

Not really a big fan of holding Pokemon who has 4x Weaknesses.

Plus, Shiny Gyarados is a nice Pokemon to have boxed up anyway.

Poor guy...never to see sunlight again.

miltankRancher February 19th, 2012 12:57 AM

Yes. Gyrados in the second gen was a meh! pokemon. It is supposed to be good, but cannot due to lack of moves. And shiny one is no excemption.

Sector February 19th, 2012 9:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miltankRancher (Post 7053428)
Yes. Gyrados in the second gen was a meh! pokemon. It is supposed to be good, but cannot due to lack of moves. And shiny one is no excemption.

If Red Gyarados was suppose to be special of some sort, yes they should had given it some...'special' moves that a regular Gyarados cannot learn.

miltankRancher February 21st, 2012 3:58 AM

yes! Red Gyarados looks too much special (and its role ain't little either) to not be a special pokemon. They could at least gave it proper moves. Sadly, I think the only reason why they include it is to tell the world that shiny pokemon exists. Like:

"Hey! look at this gyarados! It's color is different! We albino pokemon exists! Come catch us!"

Mentalii February 22nd, 2012 3:40 AM

What did you do to the Red Gyarados?

Well it depends... I use to box it, mainly because I always choose the water starter so, useless to own a second water-type. Or in my Gold Version, where I had exceptionally chosen the cute Cyndaquil, I kept it, to have a "pretty strong" water Pokémon. After all, we can't deny that Gyarados, shiny or not, is a tough Pokémon, despite its weaknesses.
And miltankRancher you're right, the reason of the red Gyarados' presence is to show people that shiny Pokémon exist. Because they're so rare, developers prefered include a shiny that everybody could find to prove that they are real.

Olli February 22nd, 2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by miltankRancher (Post 7053293)
What did you do to the Red Gyrados?

Well, what I did to the Gyarados shifted from playthrough to playthrough. Sometimes I'd catch it and succeed, other times I'd fail, or I'd see no need having it on my team, so I'd just defeat it for the exp. I kind of saw the Red Gyarados as a semi-legendary, because back with G/S/C I didn't know about shinies and Gyarados was a pretty decent Pokémon, so I'd often save before it and try to catch it, even if I weren't gonna use it. I'd always go and do the events in Mahogany town after Ecruteak for no apparent reason and I often had to go out and heal in the hideout because my Pokémon were underleveled.

Though all-in-all, I usually caught the Gyarados and either used it if I didn't have a Water type, or stuffed it in the PC box.

Jayster23 February 23rd, 2012 1:52 AM

I use the Red Gyarados as my HM slave with Surf, strength, whirlpool and waterfall
and that's pretty much it

miltankRancher February 23rd, 2012 6:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayster23 (Post 7058446)
I use the Red Gyarados as my HM slave with Surf, strength, whirlpool and waterfall
and that's pretty much it

An epic Hm slave, my sir. A Shiny for an HM slave.

NEWS: I just recently caught Red Gyarados, with adamant nature! O yeah. I think I will be using it during the summer break to go against my brother. Haha!

EB February 24th, 2012 11:07 AM

Johto Journeys - It's a Whole New World We Live In
 
Name: earth boy

What you would like others to call you: "eb" works, I guess...

Partner Pokémon: Tauros if allowed. (He's in the Johto dex! x]) But if not, I'll go with Sentret.

Favourite Gen II Pokémon: Raiku, Espeon, Wooper, and Furret

Reason For Joining: G2 has always been my favorite. Hands down. =]

Jayster23 February 25th, 2012 4:09 AM

You lucky duck mR, i lack the effort to wait for adamant nature haha

welcome Earth boy! :)

Olli February 25th, 2012 11:40 AM

So, I think it's appropriate to get a new topic now, so here goes.

'Which Gen II Pokémon do you think has the most uncreative design?'

I guess I'd have to say Remoraid, due to how plain its design is. Comparing it to its animal counterpart, there isn't much difference at all, no additional, interesting features to make it more than a simple fish. I don't get why it evolves into an octapus either. It may have been the same with Magikarp, though that was the first generation and they shouldn't really be expected to go on a creativity outburst due to it being the first time. Another example of simpleness in the design could be Ursaring. Not much to distinguish it from a real life bear.

Mentalii February 26th, 2012 2:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Olli97 (Post 7061388)
'Which Gen II Pokémon do you think has the most uncreative design?'


Pineco. A pine cone with eyes. Wow, best Pokémon ever.
Fortunately, its evolution is way better.

miltankRancher February 26th, 2012 6:08 AM

Ursaring is pretty good for me. I like his design. Simple yet really realistic.

I however, agree with Remoraid. I mean, that does not even look like a Pokemon. He looks like something I can catch with my real life rod! Octillery is way no better.

Also, another Pokemon that comes to mind is Qwilfish. I mean, he's just a puffer fish for Arceus' sake.

Hybrid Trainer February 27th, 2012 4:52 PM

Name: Hybrid Trainer
What you would like others to call you: Hybrid or David I guess.
Partner Pokémon: Houndour
Favourite Gen II Pokémon: Too many to pick from ;; I guess Politoad? I usually get a shiny one and raise along side a shiny Ninetailes.
Reason For Joining: Pokemon Silver was the game that made me fall in love with Pokemon. I played Pokemon Blue but I was too young to understand what was happening and to really enjoy it.

Topics and such~

- Which do you like better? HeartGold or Soulsilver?
I prefer Soul Silver simply because of the version exclusives. My favourite pokemon is Ninetales so it's not really a surprise that I'm going to side with the version that has that pokemon. Also I liked the Lugia cut scene a lot more than the Ho-Oh one. The use of the cave system and the waterfall was amazing.

- What did you do to the Red Gyrados?
In my original playthrough of Pokemon Silver I kept it as part of my team and used it as a HM slave. Bare in mind that I wasn't aware of shinies and I just thought that it was some special pokemon. On all my other playthroughs of silver though I trained it as a part of my team because Gyrados is amazing but I could never be bothered to catch and train a magikarp.
In my Soul Silver run though I just boxed it. I'd already planned out a team before hand so I didn't need it.

{it's a whole new world we live in}

Sector February 27th, 2012 6:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Olli97 (Post 7061388)
'Which Gen II Pokémon do you think has the most uncreative design?'

Uncreative design huh?

I would have to go with these fellas:

http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/185.gif

He's a bore.

http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/201.gif

ABC letters really? They aren't very creative to me...with just adding Eyes to black letters.

http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/234.gif

Same 'ol, same 'ol deer..or buck...or whatever it is suppose to be.

http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/206.gif

Nagaraja February 27th, 2012 7:48 PM

I would LOVE to join

Name: Nagaraja
What you would like others to call you: Nagaraja or Leksi
Partner Pokémon: Hanako the Jumpluff
Favourite Gen II Pokémon: Misdreavus, Corsola, Suicune, Sentret, Hoppip, Skiploom, Jumpluff
Reason For Joining: G2 brough along MANY creative new pokemon, and most of them have become my favorties. Especially the Hoppip line. I have loved them ever since I got the first Japanese Jumpluff in my Kanto special deck.

miltankRancher February 28th, 2012 12:33 AM

Hi there hybrid and nagaraja! :)

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Originally Posted by Sector Revenge (Post 7065559)
http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/201.gif

ABC letters really? They aren't very creative to me...with just adding Eyes to black letters.

I cannot believe I have forgotten about the unowns. I agree with you. Heiroglyphs are supposed to be interesting symbols, but 26 Greek Letters? They could do better with alternate forms.

Olli February 28th, 2012 6:19 AM

Alright, since Ikaroschase hasn't been here for quite a while, I'll be the one managing the club for the time being. Any questions, request, etc. can be VM'd or PM'd to me, though if it's something just the least bit urgent and I'm not around, just ask AlexOzzyCake, I'm sure he won't mind.

Anyways, the new members have been updated and are now officially members in this club, even though some of them forgot something in their post ;p

I'm not sure if the current topic is old enough to be changed, so if the members think it is, feel free to change it.

Hybrid Trainer February 28th, 2012 8:21 AM

- Which Gen II Pokémon do you think has the most uncreative design?

I think that most people confuse uncreative with simplistic sometimes :( Stuff like the unown are actually a really interesting idea, just because they are simple doesn't mean that they are uncreative :3
Ones that I do think are uncreative are the baby pokemon. It seams lazy to shrink down a few pokemon and say that they are baby ones, especially when some didn't need baby pokemon to begin with like Pichu or Igglybuff.

EB February 28th, 2012 1:26 PM

Spoon - Take A Walk
 
I went back to the OP and found a question I really enjoyed, so I felt like elaborating on a few things. Not trying to change the flow of the current topic or anything; my gears just really started turning when I read this, so I hope nobody minds. ^-^

Quote:

Originally Posted by miltankRancher (Post 7016906)
Second generation games (GSC) introduced a lot of new mechanics: Breeding, Shiny Factor, Pokerus, New Types (Dark and Steel) and Apricorns. Which of these is your favorite addition so far? Discuss. No one liners please.

Two of these additions really stick out in my mind: the additions to the elemental table and--one that was half-mentioned--Apricorns and berries. At first, due to the unmatched number of younger players that to this day threatens to annihilate the future of the series has single-handedly overrun the fan base, the new types seemed simply a gimmick added to bring in new feel, complexity, and enthusiasts to the franchise. It wasn't until later that I really grew to appreciate what the developers did when adding these two types: balancing the present and future metagames. (I won't elaborate further since this is fairly self-explanatory, but imo, this was one of the most influential additions to the series.)

Now Apricorns and berries gave birth to unique concepts that still hold true (although in slightly varied forms) in the generations to this day. These new item types went hand-in-hand with the idea of held items which still holds noticeable influence on the games, especially in the field of competitive battling; new beta-like pokéballs were introduced to invoke strategic capturing instead of the mindless chucking of the highest-valued ball that had developed with the previous generation; and may I digress, Kurt was just so swag [sic] in those games. =3

miltankRancher February 29th, 2012 3:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hybrid Trainer (Post 7066237)
- Which Gen II Pokémon do you think has the most uncreative design?

I think that most people confuse uncreative with simplistic sometimes :( Stuff like the unown are actually a really interesting idea, just because they are simple doesn't mean that they are uncreative :3
Ones that I do think are uncreative are the baby pokemon. It seams lazy to shrink down a few pokemon and say that they are baby ones, especially when some didn't need baby pokemon to begin with like Pichu or Igglybuff.

I know that simple is not equal to uncreative. I like the concept of Unown, but I guess with the design they could do much better. And I really don't get the point of having 26 forms. :\ they could do with a single Alphabet pokemon and such.

I am actually fond of Elekid and Pichu. I mean, look at them. They look cute, but strong!

Treecko March 1st, 2012 3:12 AM

Name:AWsqaured
What you would like others to call you:AWsqaured, AW, Aaron(my real name)
Partner Pokémon:Mareep and Umbreon
Favourite Gen II Pokémon: Ampharos, Umbreon, Scizor, Sneasel, Tyrannitar, Typhosion, Lugia
Reason For Joining: Johto is my favorite region next to Hoenn and Gold and Silver is one of favorite games.Plus it's a whole new world we live in!

miltankRancher March 1st, 2012 5:13 PM

Oh yeah! Umbreon is definitely a beast! welcome to the club! feel free to answer some ongoing discussion questions.

Let's have a new topic.

Among the key personalities introduced on Johto (including HGSS people), who is the most interesting and why? This includes Elm, Mr. Pokemon, Eusine, the Gym leaders, your rival, E4. Feel free to discuss anything related to them.


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