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Release Date Discussion [June 23 - Japan] [Q3 - Worldwide]
Do you think the 3rd game will come this year or the after? Why? Will you get it immediately when it comes out? Do you think it'll come out at all? Discuss!
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It'll most likely come out this year
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Okay so we don't have a third game speculation thread anymore, and instead we're breaking it up untl one discussion per thread, considering what the person has replied I'm editing out the other two parts and making this concentrate just on the release date, adding a few more relevant questions. Just next time try to have just one meaning per thread, okay?
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I think It'll come out this year in Japan, considering the third version usually comes out around around the time of the second movie of it's gen...plus it's going to be two years since BW came out this September for Japan.
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Since this is the 10th Anniversary for Ruby and Sapphire, Next year or the year after. If they are keeping the 10 year thing the Third game can't come out this year or we'll have the Third and Remakes at the same time.
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I've got theory about this:
Third game is very likley to be released this September, basing on anime episodes. We know that there are two different Opelucid City versions in Black and White. In third game there must be third version of this city, and one gym leader (maybe two of them at the same time). The thing is new Opelucid and it's gym leader should be revealed first in third game and then in anime. It's the same like Juan was revealed first in Emerald and then in anime. Since Ash will already have 6 badges very soon, he must get to Opelucid in this year, after release of third game. I guess Hoenn wouldn't back in anime anymore, so R/S remakes might be released in this year before third version or in the beginning of 2013 because 5 gen anime is likely to end in 2013 meaning next gen of games in 2013. |
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also even if they finish the unova saga in the anime, they will probably do a season like the battle frontier in the advanced generation. |
Considering how quick they are going they proably will make a BF like arc, maybe the Unova frontier in Hoenn?
On topic: I also don't think this gen will be over until 2013 and start the of gen VI is 2014 for japan and 2015 for the rest of the world. The third version's release might also feature a Keldeo event like BW did with Victini. It can serve reference to the Kyurem and the Muskeeter movie... |
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Also, while at work I saw that we were supposed to be getting a Wifi Download later this year. Corporate said it was an dated Promotion for Pokemon Black and White. There is something coming. My money is on Keldeo. As for where the Anime is going, I can see a side arc during the main story after Opelucid City with Ash and Co. visiting the other half of Unova before the League. Like the Whirl Islands arc in Johto. |
Uhm, I think that the third game will be released as usual? We're waiting two years untill japan realese it in Europe/America. This year in japan and next year in the other regions and after that the R/S remakes will be released in year 2014 in Europe/America and after that we got a new generation.
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Even if there would be extra season based on Unova's BF and would be going until 2014, I still think it wouldn't be connected to Hoenn, because Unova is on different continent. What I mean is R/S remakes would be "anime independent", meaning their release anytime, kinda like FR/LG.
Anyway, that theory about third game and Opelucid in anime is pretty possible, don't you think? |
I think if a release date hasn't been released by now, then the hopes for it coming out this year are very slim. I'd say next year - they can't leave it too long or nobody will care by the time it comes out lol. I will get it on its release date, as I do all Pokemon games... but I'm not really all that excited for it. I'm far more excited about the RSE Remakes, whenever they're happening. I'm kind of just looking forward to Pokemon Grey getting out of the way so that we can move onto the RSE Remakes :P
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I think it's coming end of this year in Japan. But I don't care about 3rd game because I'm waiting for R/S/E remakes but it is going to be interesting anyway.
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If Kuyrem's new form doesn't appear this month, maybe R/S remakes would be first to come. |
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If they want Hoenn back they can certainly write it back in if they wish like they did with Kanto Battle Frontier. Dawn is there so they may meet up with her. Although I think they may explore East Unova for a good deal of time. As for the actually game whether it's the Third Game or RS Remake I have a feeling it will be released this year. I just think they should probably start coverage around March, April, May. |
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New formes/pokemon are almost always revealed in February, and it's pretty much a guarantee Keldeo will be announced in Coro Coro this month, so if they reveal Kyurem's new forme along with it then it's pretty much certain Gray will be coming out this year. If we don't get a new Kyurem forme revealed, it'll start making me think the R/S remakes would be released this year. I'd rather have the RS remakes released this year, and then Gray released the year after. |
I hope it does just because there a chance of it being 3D :P
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Well I think it would be released in 17-18 September so it would be 2 year anniversary
for B/W if they keep the same pattern, am I the only one who wants R/S remakes to come after?... |
If they won't reveal Kyurem's new form on final movie 15 poster, do you think they would reveal it right before movie on single poster, like Shaymin's new form or maybe reveal it in movie 16, next year?
Imo Kyurem is too important to have new form excluded from final poster, but what's your opinion? Final posters are usually revealed in the beginning of March, while "cast" is revealed earlier in Corocoro and current Corocoro seems to have nothing new about Kyurem. So maybe it's true that new Kyurem's form and Gray will be revealed in 2013? That means R/S remakes in this year. Gray in 2013 would be a bit unfitting for anime, especially with Opelucid City, but screw that XD. |
What if we get no new main game this year...and Grey is in 2013, while they decide to do an Emerald remake for 2014 (for then year anniversity) or maybe the remakes will be first for tenth anniversity this year...
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September or October 2012 for Japan, March or April 2013 For everywhere else.
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There's going to be another surprise information in march, probably announcement of a new form, then at the end of the month we would know about the 3rd game's name which will be revealed in Corocoro in April or May.
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The title really got my hopes up..
I'd expect a release date anywhere between Mid 2012 & Fall 2012 so May-September. |
My bet on the 3rd game release is later this year around the fall season in japan. I remember the 3rd gen games being released on Nov 2002 in Japan then the Emerald Version being released on Sep 2004, nearly 2 years after the release of R/S and I think it goes the same with the 4th gen games with Platinum. B/W were released on Sep 2010 so in my opinion we'll start to get details of the 3rd game sometime around summer this year and the game released on Nov 2012 in Japan.
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I posted before theory about third game release depending on anime episodes but I'm not sure about it now...
R/S remakes might be released in this year because of event Pokemon. HG/SS probably were released after Platinum because of Arceus event. Arceus didn't have real event in D/P/Pt because it was suitable to be put in Ruins of Alph in HG/SS. Imo situation like this can't be repeated in 5 gen simply because we know that all hidden 5 gen's Pokemon have already their events prepared in Unova. Keldeo, Meloetta and Genesect - none of them would be suitable to be put in another region (Hoenn), like Arceus was (Johto). What I mean is they should release R/S remakes in 2012 and Gray in 2013 if they want to use Meloetta and Genesect for future movies' and Gray's promotion because those two would have nothing to do with R/S remakes' promotion. |
i doubt teh third game will come this year, or even next year. Usually, before the release of the third game, a remake will be made first, and some spin-off series. so far we have just seen one spin-off on the DS, and it is not yet also released. Also remake Gen III has not yet shown clues as of its existence. If the third game will be released, I am thinking summer of 2014.
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Also I see signs of the third game being this year seeing how Kyurem has it's own movie. Also we have had three spin off's so far, Pokepark, Rumble II, and Pokemon+Nobimura's ambitions (abit this one not released), I know that only one is for the Ds (2 if you count the 3ds) but still. Also next month's Corocoro said they had a surprise beyond Keldeo, my guess is the other Kyurem forme and possibly even Gray's announcement. |
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Though I don't think that the next Coro Coro will be about Kyurem, the movie seems more centered on the Muskedeers than the Dragon. We'll prolly get surprise info on another game or another event that'll be going along side the movie or even afterwards. |
Well just cause it's centered more on the muskeeter's doesn't mean that Grey isn't coming, remember Destiny Deoxys, Rayquaza wasn't even the main focus yet a few months after it's released Emerald came out...
Also the surprise is related to the movie but isn't Keldeo making me thing it's Kyurem related which if true will semi-confirm the third version coming out this year. |
In my opinion, I think it's coming out in September 2012 in Japan and March 2013 in The Americas, Europe, and Australia/ New Zealand. I hope it does, I also hope it's called Gray or Grey.
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If Gray would be released in 2012 and R/S remakes in 2013, how would they make promotion of R/S remakes using Meloetta or Genesect? They have events already in Unova, so putting them in remakes' Hoenn seems very unlikely, even illogical.
Looking at that from that perspective it seems that movie 15 would be promoting B/W, not Gray, because it looks like they are focusing on Kyurem's evil nature, presented in B/W. Remember that Rayquaza and Giratina had no story in R/S and D/P, while Kyurem has some story in B/W worth showing in movie. Imo it would make sense to present Kyurem's new form and better nature in movie 16 in 2013, followed by release of Gray. And because of lack of third Unova's game in 2012, release R/S remakes, it would also fit with R/S 10th anniversary. |
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I'm not saying Gray is impossible in this year but it really would make more sense for Gray to be released in 2013, looking at those event Pokemon. |
Not really, as I said before if Rs remakes are released first than Kyurem's other forme would be exclusive to only Grey...which will be disappointing...
Also they could always do what they did with HgSs and Arceus ,and FrLg and Deoxys...notice a pattern? Genosect in MRAS?! |
Going by previous releases, it should either be released in February-March, or in September. Seeing as it's already February, If there's any hope for a third game coming out in 2012, it'll be this September. Although I doubt it.
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I would be thrilled if in next months Coro Coro a third game was announced, its a reasonable time for it.
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Who knows maybe they put Genosect in Hoenn after it was scraped by N... besides they put the regis (well this somewhat justified due to regigigas) and the legendary birds in Pt...so... Basically event pokemon aren't reliable indicator's to what will come next. I too believe the third version is over due...besides every third version mascot (except Kanto's) have had their version come out after the second movie of it's generation. |
Gray is the most likely. I guarantee it.
For Gen IV: D&P: Sep 2006 Spinoffs: 2007--OVERALL YEAR GAP OF MAIN SERIES GAMES-- Platinum: Sep 2008 HGSS: Sep 2009 B&W: Sep 2010 So far for Gen V B&W: Sep 2010 Spinoffs: 2011--OVERALL YEAR GAP OF MAIN SERIES GAMES-- So I bet Grey: Sep 2012 - Main Event: Kyurem MRAS: Sep 2013 - Main Event: Meloetta GenVI: Sep 2014 Genesect: No ingame events used, similar to Arceus. Distributed through the 16TH film in 2013. |
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Official Arceus' event in D/P/Pt was never carried out because it required Azure Flute which was never released. In that way they saved Arceus for HG/SS promotion. For Genesect event in B/W all that is needed is only Genesect itself. So there is no way this event won't be carried out. I guess that Genesect would appear in movie 16 in 2013 and it will be distributed for Gray released in the same year. All the same could happen also to Meloetta. |
I doubt Gray will be announced yet, if anything, Coro Coro will announce a forme for Kyurem. Main Games usually get revealed in April-May, ESPECIALLY when they have the mascot in a movie.
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It will most likely happen like that. |
I thought that Gray would be announced next month.. but now I'm thinking that yes, it will be April 15ths issue of CoroCoro.. opposed to next months.
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I agree too, Grey will proably be announced this spring. If I remember right Platinum was announced around that time too.
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I place my bet on this year around autumn or so :) Reason being that it will be the perfect timing since in autumn... Many big name games are coming out for 3DS, Pokemon can't be left out.
If it wont be the 3rd game, then i'm just 99.99% sure there will be a new Pokemon game in Autumn! |
They will most likely release a new form for Kyurem sometime in spring. The Kyurem form may tie in with the movie. By the end of spring or the beginning of summer, the new game will be announced. Then there will be a lot of announcements from then until the game's release in autumn. The game will be released internationally during the spring of 2013.
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I posted that none of Unova's event Pokemon would have connection with another region, but I think now that Keldeo could appear in Hoenn, most likely meaning R/S remakes in 2012 and Gray in 2013.
Pokedex entry: "It crosses the world, running over the surfaces of oceans and rivers. It appears at scenic waterfronts." Keldeo's legend says that it left the forest, and went for a journey, looking for adventures. So maybe it ran over the ocean to Hoenn? That would be similar situation to d'Artagnan's (Keldeo's counterpart) who traveled from home region to another in France. There are also lots of scenic waterfronts in Hoenn, in which Keldeo appears. So maybe R/S remakes are going to be released this year, with catchable Keldeo? I guess Meloetta and/or Genesect would be left for Gray's promotion in 2013, because I can't think of any good reason for them to be in Hoenn, not as good as for Keldeo. One more thing: Deoxys had first official event in FR/LG and it's sprite colors were most red and green in that games! Arceus had event in HG/SS and it's golden and gray (silver)! And Keldeo has red and blue mane, obviously fitting to Ruby and Sapphire. Also it has green neck and tail in shiny form fitting to Emerald. |
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May be sooner than we think then according to Serebii's article.
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Well it would make sense to announce the third game now but idk 2 years after Black and White is kinda soon... Then again idk plat's timeslot lol.
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It's most likely going to get announced then have a japanese release date for later this year then a worldwide release for end of the year or early next year marking the 2 year gap from BW, that's how it usually goes anyhow.
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Yeah I think they will reveal it sooner than April or May. BTW does anyone Know on what day Pokemon smash is coming? |
It's perfect timing actually... any later and it would begin to tie in with R/S Remakes and/or Gen VI.
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Well, that's a good question. Depends on when the information starts to get leaked. If information is leaked in the summer, then November 18, 2012. And everywhere else? March 6, 2013.
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I don't think Masuda would tell us to watch Pokémon Smash this Sunday as an answer to "when are the next main series games coming" if it wasn't the announcement, or isn't a teaser to the announcement (meaning they will announce a teaser this week, official reveal next week")
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Maybe the new Kyurem's form will be revealed in Sunday, which is related to the 3rd game, that's why, but I hope I'm wrong, I want a new main game announcment.
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The summary and trailer not having it is a sign that there may not be an announcement. Junichi was only saying that to protect his spot in his company. If this interview happened on a Saturday in Japan, then it happened on Friday for us in the US meaning the Sunday Pokemon Smash episode already played. Right now its very hard to see where he is talking about due to time difference. From what I'm reading all the events have already happened. |
Well the events haven't already happened if it was talking about this week 20-26 even in Japan rather than last week...and if so that gives us less than a week to Speculate...
@Foever Grey is over due, besides Platinum came out two years after Dp, same with Emerald after RS (well they had remakes inbetween but still). |
Masuda was definitely talking about this week, check this Japanese page:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/5899979.html&ei=WJNCT5THKoLltQbpuf3GBA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCwQ7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%25E3%2583%259D%25E3%2582%25B1%25E3%2583%25A2%25E3%2583%25B3%25E3%2582%25B9%25E3%2583%259E%25E3%2583%2583%25E3%2582%25B7%25E3%2583%25A52012%25E5%25B9%25B42%25E6%259C%258826%25E6%2597%25A5%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26prmd%3Dimvns |
You mean Next week's.
This week's sunday passed. |
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There better be something...I'm tired of getting my hopes up and then finding out it's another spin off...
Also maybe they will only announce the title and save the mascot imo Kyurem's other forme, for Corocoro. Also maybe it's a surprise announcement... It could also be the remakes if not Grey... |
So this Sunday we might hear of Pokémon Gray... that's what I'm hoping for.
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Also, keep in mind that Gamefreak has Trademarked Pokemon Adventure Camp. This could very well be a new type of Main Game. |
Well for HeartGold SoulSilver the logos were released when the game was announced, the covers were released the following month.
Same for Black and White.. and probably the same for the previous games. So I'm thinking: Gray/Grey announced this Sunday. First details released. Kyurems forme released in CoroCoro in March 15ths issue.. news of a big game announcement in the following issue. April 15ths issue includes official Japanese boxart, release date, and details of the game. But.. thats if it's about Grey at all. While I personally beleive it's most likely Grey if any game, it's not completely likely. |
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Oh right forgot about those...maybe they're the new Stadium, Colleseum, Battle revolution. Kind of strange as he the person asked about the next main series game not the next game...but then again Bulbapedia considers Stadium,ect. as part of the main series so they might too... |
Masuda was asked precisely about B/W successor. So it's almost obvious his answer was about Gray or R/S remakes because they all would be the same type of game. Because of that Stadium series or Adventure Camp (it's not even sure what it'll be) even considered as main games, are out of question. They can't be answered as B/W successor because they are different types of games.
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Good point, missed that, so it must be Grey or Crimsonruby and Indigosapphire...
My bet is on Grey due to the Movie (the rest of the trio isn't present sure, but neither was The entire weather trio in Destiny Deoxys or even the Creation trio with Giratina and sky bouquet Shaymin (palkia was missing)). |
Madusa was asked specifically about the Black & White sequel, so it wont be the R/S remakes. Also, he is talking about the Pokemon Smash episode which will air February 26th in Japan. Then on twitter he said:
"Please watch next week's Pokemon Smash live or check my Twitter!" |
I was about to add that to my post xD
Anyways, yeah it can't be the remakes due to it being the Sequel to Bw (anyways RS is more of a Prequel due to taking place sometime before DPPt). Oh twitter, well that'll be nice for those of us who can't see Pokemon Smash live. |
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Either way, I think we'll get something on Pokemon Smash. I have a feeling it'll just be the announcement that a new game will be announced on the next episode or something like that.. since Im sure that if they were going to reveal a new game they would have had it in the episode synopsis unless this was a last minute thing after the synopsis for the episode was released. If it is revealed, its VERY early. Usually games are revealed in May, and released in September. Makes me think Japan may get the game earlier than September possibly. |
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True but somehow I get the feeling that they were talking about the third version when they said "Sequel". |
Well if it's about the 3rd game, I think they will reveal the name first with some informations about the mascot, then in Corocoro March or April they will reveal some pics about it and other new features stuff.
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Imo I think theyre too busy being excited about their new spinoffs rn considering there are so many at once. |
I thought that BW was announced April 2010 from what I remember. I don't see the issue with releasing now in terms of pokemon. Shaymin wasn't released until a few months before Plat and Arceus until a year after. So I can see Meloetta and Genesect being either movie events next year or have downloadable events or event items once the game is out.
Yeah it seems their main focus atm is Pokemon + Nobunagas Ambition. So after they are done in development of that I can see them putting most of their efforts toward either of the main series games. |
Oh, gen five was announced @ feb and bw specifically then. Same thing imo :3
Well the issue with event pokemon is that they have planned in-game events in bw and I don't see them releasing events for bw while third game is released :( |
We're getting something tomorrow that is more likely to be a third game than remakes, it just fits the corresponding and on-going pattern over the last few years.
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I was about to say that. Also Pokesmash is always beaten by something when it comes to releasing news on the games, so the Nintendo Direct event might ninja it with announcing Gray *wishes on Jiranchi*.
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We will get official announcements in Pokemon Smash on their next show. I got Pokemon White and Black and it's obvious that there will be a 3rd game coming.
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Just to put in...it was also obvious they'd add Light Types and that the Evolutions were fake.
Unless you work for Gamefreak, nothing is absolute, nothing is certain. Don't guarantee, don't say that it absolutely will be just cause. That always backfires. It could be Third Game, it could be new remakes, it could be Adventure Camp, it could be another large spin off, or it could be another Stadium. It could be an event for Black and White for a Pokemon that isn't related to the movie. Look at the last "Big and Exciting Announcement" they had when it turned out to be a Mewtwo Event. |
The Nintendo Direct game could also not be a Pokemon game...it could be a new Zelda game, there was one rumored in the works so we might not get Grey announced.
Also to be fair the evolution thing was a tough call cause someone drew the first image we got from memory or at least that's how I remember it...A better example is Luvdisc' "Evolution"...I think every one was tricked by that... Though I'm pretty confident that we will get some sort of announcement soon enough. |
It's coming no later than Dec 2012 in Japan, and not because of the end-of-the-world stuff. The longest gap between two releases in Japan is 2 years, as it is for us English speakers, so having two straight years with no releases would break this trend.
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Oh it was? Well then that leaves the third version, Remakes, or Club Red and Club Blue... considering it's one game that leaves out the other two unless they only plan to release one remake...
Plus everything is adding up, Kyurem movie + hint of third version in the next Pokemon smash + two years since BW's release in Japan = Third version? |
This news comes just as the PSVita is being officially launched in NA. Seems like they will announce something big to hopefully get peoples eyes off the PSVita and onto the 3DS, so it very well may be something big like Gray.
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All this speculation makes me want to find out the release date for a third game and/or another mainstream game even more. I also agree with P0kelegend and Forever though, it really does seem early. n_n If they're waiting for the other Pokémon we haven't gotten to be released for the third game I guess that would make sense but. :( |
Well for us outside of japan it seems early cause it still hasn't been a whole year since we've gotten Bw but for the Japanese fan's it's been a long time... almost one year and a half, september will match the second year anniversity so why non release Grey in September? And if not Grey than the remakes at least...
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Unless they plan to announce it now, wait till a September release for Japan and a March release for the rest of the world, that would cover either the two year gap or the ten year anniversary for both whether it be a third game or a remake.
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After the nintendo event not revealing Grey I don't think that Pokemon Smash will either...maybe they'll reveal a hint but my hopes aren't high.
Also my guess for a Japanese release will be around the first week of September. Sigh, waiting for Grey is like it was waiting for gen V pokémon to be revealed, a very long time with a lot of hope's being broken... |
once it got kind of into the talk I was kind of expecting nothing, Pokémon Smash may reveal something but if they don't it's only a matter of time really.
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And in Europa I think we won't have it before a really long time...
That is a thing I can't bear with Pokémon, they are so much long to release the games here that I always fear not to "love" Pokémon anymore when the game is released, while in the present moment I would absolutely want it. |
I hope they don't lie to us in Pokemon smash by announcing nothing or another Spin off,
but I don't think they are gonna make R/S remakes in the same year as Grey. Now it's time for the 3rd game to be getting revealed! |
If they don't reveal the third version this month than they will most likely release it after Nobumura's ambition + Pokemon comes out, so that they can focus on the third version.
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Gold/Silver were the Sequel to Red and Blue. This shows a difference between possibilities. It can also be read as what is the next game in the line up. Pokemon Adventure Camp is the ONLY other title KNOWN to be owned by Gamefreak and is a possible game title. There is a high chance that this is the target of Pokemon Smash. Quote:
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Im really not sure whats going to happen on Pokemon Smash, but Im definitely not going to get my hopes up now after all the previous disappointments. I really doubt they would announce the game on Pokemon smash, so maybe it is a silhouette of Kyurem's new forme which is pretty much a confirmation of a new game anyway.
It just seems too early for them to announce it, I dont see an announcement for the actual game until April at the earliest. |
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