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blue February 14th, 2012 6:27 AM

The title really got my hopes up..

I'd expect a release date anywhere between Mid 2012 & Fall 2012 so May-September.

Lord_Sesshoumaru February 14th, 2012 8:43 AM

My bet on the 3rd game release is later this year around the fall season in japan. I remember the 3rd gen games being released on Nov 2002 in Japan then the Emerald Version being released on Sep 2004, nearly 2 years after the release of R/S and I think it goes the same with the 4th gen games with Platinum. B/W were released on Sep 2010 so in my opinion we'll start to get details of the 3rd game sometime around summer this year and the game released on Nov 2012 in Japan.

wombateiro February 17th, 2012 2:08 PM

I posted before theory about third game release depending on anime episodes but I'm not sure about it now...

R/S remakes might be released in this year because of event Pokemon.
HG/SS probably were released after Platinum because of Arceus event. Arceus didn't have real event in D/P/Pt because it was suitable to be put in Ruins of Alph in HG/SS.

Imo situation like this can't be repeated in 5 gen simply because we know that all hidden 5 gen's Pokemon have already their events prepared in Unova. Keldeo, Meloetta and Genesect - none of them would be suitable to be put in another region (Hoenn), like Arceus was (Johto).
What I mean is they should release R/S remakes in 2012 and Gray in 2013 if they want to use Meloetta and Genesect for future movies' and Gray's promotion because those two would have nothing to do with R/S remakes' promotion.

miltankRancher February 17th, 2012 5:22 PM

i doubt teh third game will come this year, or even next year. Usually, before the release of the third game, a remake will be made first, and some spin-off series. so far we have just seen one spin-off on the DS, and it is not yet also released. Also remake Gen III has not yet shown clues as of its existence. If the third game will be released, I am thinking summer of 2014.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 17th, 2012 6:25 PM

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Originally Posted by miltankRancher (Post 7051785)
i doubt teh third game will come this year, or even next year. Usually, before the release of the third game, a remake will be made first, and some spin-off series. so far we have just seen one spin-off on the DS, and it is not yet also released. Also remake Gen III has not yet shown clues as of its existence. If the third game will be released, I am thinking summer of 2014.

Well HgSs was released after Platinum so...
Also I see signs of the third game being this year seeing how Kyurem has it's own movie. Also we have had three spin off's so far, Pokepark, Rumble II, and Pokemon+Nobimura's ambitions (abit this one not released), I know that only one is for the Ds (2 if you count the 3ds) but still.
Also next month's Corocoro said they had a surprise beyond Keldeo, my guess is the other Kyurem forme and possibly even Gray's announcement.

Xander Olivieri February 17th, 2012 6:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7051831)

Well HgSs was released after Platinum so...
Also I see signs of the third game being this year seeing how Kyurem has it's own movie. Also we have had three spin off's so far, Pokepark, Rumble II, and Pokemon+Nobimura's ambitions (abit this one not released), I know that only one is for the Ds (2 if you count the 3ds) but still.
Also next month's Corocoro said they had a surprise beyond Keldeo, my guess is the other Kyurem forme and possibly even Gray's announcement.

Adding Fourth and Fifth if the Red Camp and Blue Camp isn't just a rumor~

Though I don't think that the next Coro Coro will be about Kyurem, the movie seems more centered on the Muskedeers than the Dragon. We'll prolly get surprise info on another game or another event that'll be going along side the movie or even afterwards.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 17th, 2012 8:03 PM

Well just cause it's centered more on the muskeeter's doesn't mean that Grey isn't coming, remember Destiny Deoxys, Rayquaza wasn't even the main focus yet a few months after it's released Emerald came out...
Also the surprise is related to the movie but isn't Keldeo making me thing it's Kyurem related which if true will semi-confirm the third version coming out this year.

BryGuy Shinigami February 17th, 2012 8:18 PM

In my opinion, I think it's coming out in September 2012 in Japan and March 2013 in The Americas, Europe, and Australia/ New Zealand. I hope it does, I also hope it's called Gray or Grey.

wombateiro February 18th, 2012 5:44 AM

If Gray would be released in 2012 and R/S remakes in 2013, how would they make promotion of R/S remakes using Meloetta or Genesect? They have events already in Unova, so putting them in remakes' Hoenn seems very unlikely, even illogical.
Looking at that from that perspective it seems that movie 15 would be promoting B/W, not Gray, because it looks like they are focusing on Kyurem's evil nature, presented in B/W. Remember that Rayquaza and Giratina had no story in R/S and D/P, while Kyurem has some story in B/W worth showing in movie.
Imo it would make sense to present Kyurem's new form and better nature in movie 16 in 2013, followed by release of Gray. And because of lack of third Unova's game in 2012, release R/S remakes, it would also fit with R/S 10th anniversary.

HyperXhydra February 18th, 2012 6:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wombateiro (Post 7052345)
If Gray would be released in 2012 and R/S remakes in 2013, how would they make promotion of R/S remakes using Meloetta or Genesect? They have events already in Unova, so putting them in remakes' Hoenn seems very unlikely, even illogical.
Looking at that from that perspective it seems that movie 15 would be promoting B/W, not Gray, because it looks like they are focusing on Kyurem's evil nature, presented in B/W. Remember that Rayquaza and Giratina had no story in R/S and D/P, while Kyurem has some story in B/W worth showing in movie.
Imo it would make sense to present Kyurem's new form and better nature in movie 16 in 2013, followed by release of Gray. And because of lack of third Unova's game in 2012, release R/S remakes, it would also fit with R/S 10th anniversary.

The 3rd games always get released 2 years after the first 2 versions just wait, we'll get Kyurem's new form by a few months, it could the next month actually, then after that Grey's announcment comes in April.

wombateiro February 18th, 2012 6:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HyperXhydra (Post 7052359)
The 3rd games always get released 2 years after the first 2 versions just wait, we'll get Kyurem's new form by a few months, it could the next month actually, then after that Grey's announcment comes in April.

Not always, Crystal got released one year after. Releasing third game after two years is not the rule, it was just the most convenient time in 1, 3 and 4 gens.
I'm not saying Gray is impossible in this year but it really would make more sense for Gray to be released in 2013, looking at those event Pokemon.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 18th, 2012 10:13 AM

Not really, as I said before if Rs remakes are released first than Kyurem's other forme would be exclusive to only Grey...which will be disappointing...
Also they could always do what they did with HgSs and Arceus ,and FrLg and Deoxys...notice a pattern? Genosect in MRAS?!

Tachikaze February 18th, 2012 10:53 AM

Going by previous releases, it should either be released in February-March, or in September. Seeing as it's already February, If there's any hope for a third game coming out in 2012, it'll be this September. Although I doubt it.

wombateiro February 18th, 2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7052578)
Also they could always do what they did with HgSs and Arceus ,and FrLg and Deoxys...notice a pattern? Genosect in MRAS?!

Since Genesect is connected to Unova and has event prepared already, I'm not sure about it. Even if they would put Genesect in R/S remakes, how would they do that?

blue February 18th, 2012 12:20 PM

I would be thrilled if in next months Coro Coro a third game was announced, its a reasonable time for it.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 18th, 2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wombateiro (Post 7052657)
Since Genesect is connected to Unova and has event prepared already, I'm not sure about it. Even if they would put Genesect in R/S remakes, how would they do that?

True but Arceus had one planned for DP too...one that was never carried out...until PtHgSs.
Who knows maybe they put Genosect in Hoenn after it was scraped by N... besides they put the regis (well this somewhat justified due to regigigas) and the legendary birds in Pt...so...
Basically event pokemon aren't reliable indicator's to what will come next.

I too believe the third version is over due...besides every third version mascot (except Kanto's) have had their version come out after the second movie of it's generation.

Oshakpop February 18th, 2012 1:04 PM

Gray is the most likely. I guarantee it.

For Gen IV:
D&P: Sep 2006
Spinoffs: 2007--OVERALL YEAR GAP OF MAIN SERIES GAMES--
Platinum: Sep 2008
HGSS: Sep 2009
B&W: Sep 2010

So far for Gen V
B&W: Sep 2010
Spinoffs: 2011--OVERALL YEAR GAP OF MAIN SERIES GAMES--

So I bet
Grey: Sep 2012 - Main Event: Kyurem
MRAS: Sep 2013 - Main Event: Meloetta
GenVI: Sep 2014

Genesect: No ingame events used, similar to Arceus. Distributed through the 16TH film in 2013.

wombateiro February 18th, 2012 1:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7052716)


True but Arceus had one planned for DP too...one that was never carried out...until PtHgSs.

But there is a difference between official Arceus' event in D/P/Pt and Genesect's in B/W.
Official Arceus' event in D/P/Pt was never carried out because it required Azure Flute which was never released. In that way they saved Arceus for HG/SS promotion.
For Genesect event in B/W all that is needed is only Genesect itself. So there is no way this event won't be carried out. I guess that Genesect would appear in movie 16 in 2013 and it will be distributed for Gray released in the same year. All the same could happen also to Meloetta.

P0kelegend February 18th, 2012 1:55 PM

I doubt Gray will be announced yet, if anything, Coro Coro will announce a forme for Kyurem. Main Games usually get revealed in April-May, ESPECIALLY when they have the mascot in a movie.

blue February 18th, 2012 2:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2daam (Post 7052745)
Gray is the most likely. I guarantee it.

For Gen IV:
D&P: Sep 2006
Spinoffs: 2007--OVERALL YEAR GAP OF MAIN SERIES GAMES--
Platinum: Sep 2008
HGSS: Sep 2009
B&W: Sep 2010

So far for Gen V
B&W: Sep 2010
Spinoffs: 2011--OVERALL YEAR GAP OF MAIN SERIES GAMES--

So I bet
Grey: Sep 2012 - Main Event: Kyurem
MRAS: Sep 2013 - Main Event: Meloetta
GenVI: Sep 2014

Genesect: No ingame events used, similar to Arceus. Distributed through the 16TH film in 2013.

This ^

It will most likely happen like that.

Oshakpop February 18th, 2012 2:46 PM

I thought that Gray would be announced next month.. but now I'm thinking that yes, it will be April 15ths issue of CoroCoro.. opposed to next months.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire February 18th, 2012 5:35 PM

I agree too, Grey will proably be announced this spring. If I remember right Platinum was announced around that time too.

Mechanic February 19th, 2012 12:10 PM

I place my bet on this year around autumn or so :) Reason being that it will be the perfect timing since in autumn... Many big name games are coming out for 3DS, Pokemon can't be left out.

If it wont be the 3rd game, then i'm just 99.99% sure there will be a new Pokemon game in Autumn!

Raichupacabra February 19th, 2012 5:02 PM

They will most likely release a new form for Kyurem sometime in spring. The Kyurem form may tie in with the movie. By the end of spring or the beginning of summer, the new game will be announced. Then there will be a lot of announcements from then until the game's release in autumn. The game will be released internationally during the spring of 2013.

wombateiro February 20th, 2012 1:12 AM

I posted that none of Unova's event Pokemon would have connection with another region, but I think now that Keldeo could appear in Hoenn, most likely meaning R/S remakes in 2012 and Gray in 2013.

Pokedex entry: "It crosses the world, running over the surfaces of oceans and rivers. It appears at scenic waterfronts."

Keldeo's legend says that it left the forest, and went for a journey, looking for adventures. So maybe it ran over the ocean to Hoenn? That would be similar situation to d'Artagnan's (Keldeo's counterpart) who traveled from home region to another in France. There are also lots of scenic waterfronts in Hoenn, in which Keldeo appears.
So maybe R/S remakes are going to be released this year, with catchable Keldeo? I guess Meloetta and/or Genesect would be left for Gray's promotion in 2013, because I can't think of any good reason for them to be in Hoenn, not as good as for Keldeo.

One more thing: Deoxys had first official event in FR/LG and it's sprite colors were most red and green in that games! Arceus had event in HG/SS and it's golden and gray (silver)! And Keldeo has red and blue mane, obviously fitting to Ruby and Sapphire. Also it has green neck and tail in shiny form fitting to Emerald.


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