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Gonzo April 1st, 2012 4:54 AM

Hah, silly you! I hope you can fix it.

Anyway,
@ Topic:
What type of RNG abuse can you do? I can do every single type of RNG abuse in 4th Gen as well as in 5th Gen.
What are you interesting in learning how to do in the future? I want to learn 3rd Gen abuses, but I want too difficult stuff in the beginning - ID/SID abuse. I guess I'll jjust start with breeding since I have some cool pokemon to be bred (eg. Chansey or Gastly).

Cordelia April 1st, 2012 6:54 AM

Ugh, can't figure it out yet... so I took a break for a bit and did my challenge entry. The ultimate prankster!

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/007.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/642.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/007.png
Thundurus ♂ Lv. 40
OT: Scotty | ID: 4730
Nature: Hasty
Ability: Prankster
IVs: 30, 31, 30, 31, 31, 31 Ice 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Revenge, Shock Wave, Heal Block, Agility
Non-Redis

oocyst April 1st, 2012 7:05 AM

Wow Mac what did you do omg!

Here is my entry for the new challenge! It's prankster AND it has trick!


http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/evo/313.png
Volbeat
Prankster|Bold
31|18|31|31|31|31
Trick|Baton Pass|Encore|Thunder Wave


And I also used the same parents to get this cutie right here but this is not my challenge entry I guess! (Unless I can enter TWO)


http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/evo/314.png
Illumise
Prankster|Bold
31|22|31|31|31|31
Tackle|Baton Pass|Encore|Thunder Wave

As for the topic: I can do 5th gen capture, stationary, wondercard and breed. I'd love to learn how to do entralink. I also want to learn how to do HG as my HG just arrived in the mail. Maybe I should learn ruby abuse as wel.. Blade's gotta teach me!!

LegendaryFSK April 1st, 2012 8:01 AM

Challenge Complete. This challenge was pretty fun and a pretty appropriate theme given the day.

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/546.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Cottonee http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/female.png | Lv. 1
OT: Jay Jay | ID: 37261 | Gen V
Nature: Impish | Ability: Prankster
IVs: 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
EVs: UT
Absorb | Encore | XXXXX | XXXXX

oocyst April 1st, 2012 2:42 PM

So the HG I bought arrived and it had a legal event Celebi on it, so I decided to use it to get zorua on my black! Was pretty hard because I didn't really know what to do.



http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-bw/evo/570.png
http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/luxuryball.pngZorua
Illusion|Modest
31|31|31|31|31|31
Scratch|Leer|Pursuit|Fake Tears

vaporeon7 April 1st, 2012 6:44 PM

April Fool's Challenge complete! Specs Manectric ftw.


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/309.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Electrike http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Aaron | 06293 | White
Timid | Lightningrod | 31 22 31 30 31 31
Flamethrower, HP: Grass 70, Switcheroo, Thunderbolt

Cordelia April 1st, 2012 6:57 PM

I might as well add to the discussion since I've finally gotten our first post fixed! Whoever turned it upside down is a big meanie!

What can I do? 5th gen eggs, capture, wondercards, roamers, entralink, id abuse, 4th gen eggs, captures, wondercards, roamers, headbutt, id abuse.

What do I want to learn? 5th gen shiny roamers, 4th gen Safari Zone abuse

Gonzo April 2nd, 2012 2:32 AM

Oh great! Mac fixed the CSS, well done!
And guys, my lil' baby just got delivered <3
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6613/63996602.png
be sure to see some French abuses soon *u*

greg0915 April 2nd, 2012 6:06 AM

What can I do?

5th Gen:
  • Breeding
  • Capture
  • Wondercards
  • ID/SID Abuse

4th Gen:
  • Breeding
  • D/P/PT Capture
  • Honey tree
  • ID Abuse

What do I want to learn?

5th Gen:
  • Roamers
  • Entralink
  • Shaking Spot

4th Gen:
  • Roamers
  • Headbutt
  • HG/SS Capture
  • Wondercard

Gonzo April 2nd, 2012 6:18 AM

greg0915, you know how to catch in HG/SS it's the same, the only (very tiny) difference is the delay verification and actually, it's easier than in DPPt :)

OK, did my challenge entry:

Dustbuster, F, lvl1 shiny
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/161.gifhttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/a/a2/EggMS.png
Nature: Jolly || Ability: Keen Eye || OT: Gonzo || ID: 00500
Hatched at: Bellchime Trail || Date: April 1 2012
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Moves: Scratch, Foresight, Covet, Trick
I did this because I love Furret! It's adorable and useful in Wi-Fi battles. This may sound weird, but it is a real warrior. The best way to fool your opponent is to use a Pokemon (s)he wouldn't expect. Who'd expect Furret? Exactly, NOBODY! Hatched at Bellchime Trail because the location is just as lovely as Sentret :3

Cordelia April 2nd, 2012 9:10 AM

Nice abuse, bro. I wanted to let everyone know to thank greg0915 for the amazing CSS that he wrote for us :) I hope you all enjoy it as much as I am!

EDIT: I had to change it because it started to hurt my eyes something fierce. :(

Gonzo April 3rd, 2012 12:19 AM

Well, at least he did fantastic leaderboard! I really like it, looks professional :D


Did one more abuse yesterday in my French SS, this one is wicked,:
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/131/5/0/lyra_sprite_in_bw_games_by_flamejow-d3g51rp.png
OT: Camilla || ID: 20702
Available shiny spreads:
(TIMID/MODEST ability 0) 31/17/30/30/31/31 HP Grass 68
(TIMID/BOLD ability 1) 31/4/31/30/31/30 HP Fire 68
What's wicked, is that I have exactly the same spreads in my French Diamond and my ID there is 30703!

Cordelia April 3rd, 2012 10:21 AM

Nice job on the abuse, Gonzo. I need to do some more id/sid abuse but I can't be f'd to beat my game again... -.- I hate that part of it all. Everyone, you have til tomorrow at midnight to complete the challenge if you are interested! :)

Gonzo April 4th, 2012 3:47 AM

Yeah, so I just got this:
and I abused this:

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/384.gifhttp://users.smogon.com/mingot/loraksballs/Cherish.png
レックウザhttp://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/39/ShinyBWStar.png
Jolly || Air Lock
Dragon Pulse | Ancient Power | Outrage | Dragon Dance
ノブナガ | 03172
31/31/31/31/31/31

time to get a nice ID and SID :3

Cordelia April 4th, 2012 6:23 AM

Very nice abuse, bro. I love that Japanese black! :D I bet you're loving it as well.

I just wanted to let you know how we're going to do Owner's Choice. I will be choosing the one from this challenge, but I am not allowed to choose my own, of course. Blade will choose the next and Gonzo the one after. It will then rotate between me, Blade, and Gonzo afterwards.

oocyst April 4th, 2012 6:39 AM

Man I want that Rayquaza, but I'm too broke to buy anything right now. It looks so amazing!

So while Gonzo got his Japanese and French games, I got an english HG! Should I RNG my ID? If yes, how? What spreads should I get? Oh and is it only if I want shiny legends, because I don't really want those.. I'm too inexperienced for this ;; I haven't even done everything on my Black yet :(

ALSO PICK ME

Cordelia April 4th, 2012 6:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rednael (Post 7114444)
Man I want that Rayquaza, but I'm too broke to buy anything right now. It looks so amazing!

So while Gonzo got his Japanese and French games, I got an english HG! Should I RNG my ID? If yes, how? What spreads should I get? Oh and is it only if I want shiny legends, because I don't really want those.. I'm too inexperienced for this ;; I haven't even done everything on my Black yet :(

ALSO PICK ME

Don't beg. :P There's a guide on Smogon, but I'll have to find it. It's pretty easy to do, if you know how to hit delay. I would try to work on HGSS rng on your flash cart first though to get used to hitting delay.

I did two new B/W breeds over the past week. I really wanted these for my competitive teams, and I wanted a replacement for the Timid flawless I did earlier (because it didn't have the moves/HP I needed).

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/37.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Melinda (Vulpix) ♀ Lv. 1 ★
OT: Ginny | ID: 51120
Nature: Timid
Ability: Drought
IVs: 31, 31, 30, 30, 30, 30 Fighting 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Heat Wave, Disable, Energy Ball, Substitute
Non-Redis

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/37.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Vulpix ♀ Lv. 1
OT: Ginny | ID: 51120
Nature: Calm
Ability: Drought
IVs: 31, 31, 30, 30, 30, 30 Fighting 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Heat Wave, Disable, Energy Ball, Substitute
Non-Redis

Gonzo April 4th, 2012 7:44 AM

Nice abuses, Mac, tho I would do Atk 2 because it gives you the lowest possible Confusion damage :)



Ok, guys! Say "hi" to:
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/74/HilbertChallenge.png
OT: ゴンゾ (Gonzo in Katakana) || ID: 1
Shiny spread abused:
31/2/30/30/30/2 HP Fighting 70 Synchable 100% Females, Encounter Slot 9, available for Stationary Pokemon.

Abused it basically for Musharna, Cofagrigus and Bronzong for Trick Room
♠ are added cuz it's for all my next 5th Gen challenge entries.

Cordelia April 4th, 2012 7:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonz0 (Post 7114509)
Nice abuses, Mac, tho I would do Atk 2 because it gives you the lowest possible Confusion damages :)



Ok, guys! Say "hi" to:
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/7/74/HilbertChallenge.png
OT: ♠ゴンゾ♠ (Gonzo in Katakana) || ID: 1
Shiny spread abused:
31/2/30/30/30/2 HP Fighting 70 Synchable 100% Females, Encounter Slot 9, available for Stationary Pokemon.

Abused it basically for Musharna, Cofagrigus and Bronzong for Trick Room
♠ are added cuz it's for all my next 5th Gen challenge entries.

Oh damn, I didn't even think about that :( Now due to being OCD I will have to redo them. xD Time to remove them from my thread. Thanks for pointing that out. Nice ID abuse... I hate BW ID abuse, for some reason I am not very good at it xD

TwilightBlade April 4th, 2012 1:05 PM

This is what I did for the fools' challenge:

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/011.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/491.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/011.png
Darkrai
OT: Jasmine ID: 39218
Timid | Bad Dreams
Trick | Dark Void | Dark Pulse | Nasty Plot
31 | 7 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31
Legit Member's Card


Such a devious little troublemaker. Legend says that on a moonless night, Darkrai lures its victims into sleep and induces horrific nightmares upon them. Darkrai's powers are actually a defense mechanism. Oops. Who's the real fool?

Spoiler:
here's the chatroom conversation ;)

16:07 peeves hey everstone
16:08 Everstone hi
16:08 peeves the reason why i was 1 frame off shaymin was cuz mesprit was roaming ??
16:08 peeves oh now i got 2 roamers @ darkrai...
16:09 peeves is that k
16:09 Everstone yeah you'd start on frame 3
16:09 peeves i need frame 150. how many chatters
16:10 Everstone obvs 2 less the chatters you'd need w/o roamers
16:10 peeves idk how many
16:10 Everstone 147 derp

16:13 peeves booo odd delay
16:19 peeves okay i hit my coin flips
16:19 peeves 147 chatters. fingers crossed

16:23 peeves now to catch it in lux ball
16:26 peeves what if it struggles .-.
16:27 Faye put it to sleep? paralyze?
16:27 peeves its sleep with 9 hitpoints
16:27 johnny18 you will catch it in no time Blade
16:28 peeves lol johnny
16:28 peeves i got it
16:28 peeves JOHNNYYYYY
16:28 peeves i caught it in 13 lux balls
16:28 peeves HALP
16:28 Faye GRATS
16:28 Faye GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAATS
16:28 sydiannn i like darkrai
16:28 peeves time to check its ivs hurrr
16:29 Everstone post stats and I can probably tell
16:29 peeves Darkrai - #491 (Timid) : 30 - 31 / 6 - 7 / 31 / 30 - 31 / 30 - 31 / 30 - 31

Sydian April 4th, 2012 1:06 PM

HELLO IT IS SUB PAR :( :( :(

http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/diveball.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/546.gifhttp://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/diveball.png
Kayte / Cottonee (f) lv. 14
Prankster | Calm
Cedric | 26099
31/31/31/22/31/31
[ Growth, Leech Seed, Stun Spore, Mega Drain ]


Chose it because it was the easiest thing to get with Prankster ~_~ -runs away-

Cordelia April 5th, 2012 8:35 AM

I'd like to congratulate Rednael for RNGing the first Owner's Choice with his amazing Volbeat! Congratulations!

Reasoning: For one, it has Prankster AND Trick... and it has many amazing egg moves. This one just really stood out and I couldn't pass it up for the combination of wonderful things it has to offer. Overall, a very good abuse.

Here's the next challenge!

RNG a Pokemon that's gotten better OR worse with age! This would be a Pokemon that was introduced and either has improved or gotten worse in a later generation.

TwilightBlade is the judge for this one and it was her idea for the challenge. :) Good luck and have fun!

New discussion topic:

What do you like to do with your RNG'd Pokemon? Do you EV train them and battle with them, or something else?

Gonzo April 5th, 2012 12:39 PM

Yay! Rednael, congrats! (Your abuse was my favourite as well)

@ Current topic:
I EV them only if asked for EVd Pokemon or I want to use them competitively. Mostly, they just become .pkm files on my PC and are waiting until traded or trained.

Also, I tried starter abuse in 5th Gen and succeeded!
ツタージャ male, lvl 5
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/495.gif
Overgrow || Modest || OT: ゴンゾ || ID: 1
IVs: 31/2/31/30/31/30 HP Fire 70

I wanted a hard hitting fire Pokemon as a starter but I didn't want Tepig, so I chose Snivy, lol. Another Snivy's plus is that I will be able to get shiny HP grass Panpour easily as Dreamyard gift :)

TwilightBlade April 5th, 2012 1:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sydian (Post 7114897)
HELLO IT IS SUB PAR :( :( :(

http://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/diveball.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/546.gifhttp://www.serebii.net/itemdex/sprites/diveball.png
Kayte / Cottonee (f) lv. 14
Prankster | Calm
Cedric | 26099
31/31/31/22/31/31
[ Growth, Leech Seed, Stun Spore, Mega Drain ]


Chose it because it was the easiest thing to get with Prankster ~_~ -runs away-

This easily won my heart. <3

Discussion topic: What do you like to do with your RNG'd Pokemon? Do you EV train them and battle with them, or something else?
I do all kinds of things to my RNGd Pokemon. Some are EV trained to beat up in-game trainers (Ferrothorn). Some are used in battle facilities / tournaments (Gengar, Vaporeon, Starmie). Some are EV trained, rare candied, and become my Fly slave (Volcarona and Kyurem). Some are used in my in-game teams (Azumarill, Steelix). Some are perpetually boxed, regardless of being UT or EVd, until they are to be traded. Geez have I exhausted every possibility yet?? I feed foul poffins to some!

hey sup folks!
Friendly tip on this week's challenge: While this challenge largely emphasizes how a particular Pokemon has competitively improved/worsened throughout the generations, I understand that some members don't care for battling. For that reason, feel free to RNG abuse a Pokemon you feel differently about since its inception. Be sure to explain why a Pokemon gradually grew on you (or vice versa). Remember to have fun! Looking forward to eating the cookies k.

Cordelia April 5th, 2012 4:15 PM

Discussion topic: I usually EV the ones that I want to battle with because I find it fun to try to compete with others and it gives me a certain sense of pride to use my own RNG'd mons. It's a lot of fun for me :) It also helps pass the time at work to annihilate the Battle Subway with them ;)

My challenge entry:

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/37.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Vulpix ♀ Lv. 1 ★
OT: Ginny | ID: 51120
Nature: Calm
Ability: Drought
IVs: 31, 2, 30, 30, 30, 30 Fighting 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Heat Wave, Disable, Energy Ball, Substitute
Non-Redis

When Ninetales received its DW Ability, Drought, it changed the metagame and instantly was put in the OU tier at the heart of many sun teams. This one is the specially defensive variant so that Ninetales can stay in longer and keep on fighting the weather battle. I gave it two egg moves, Disable and Heatwave, which I think would help... but most likely I'd replace Heat Wave with Fire Blast. All in all, this is one of my favorite Pokemon that got a much needed boost in Gen 5.

NU in DPPT -> OU in BW

Also, I did a timid variant and named it after my pair. :)

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/sicon/37.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Melinda (Vulpix) ♀ Lv. 1 ★
OT: Ginny | ID: 51120
Nature: Timid
Ability: Drought
IVs: 31, 2, 30, 30, 30, 30 Fighting 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Heat Wave, Disable, Energy Ball, Substitute
Non-Redis

I hope you all like! :)


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