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RingoH March 20th, 2012 4:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christianzeo (Post 7091590)
How do we use the broken RNG? i still don't get it :P

It helps to know which game you're trying to abuse on, as the method of verifying your target seed is different on each one. Which part of the process is giving you trouble?

The guides all look overwhelming at first, as it's not easy the first time [after all this is an aspect of the game that Nintendo and Game Freak never intended us to discover and try to exploit].

If you are trying to abuse for a shiny you will need to know your SID in addition to your Trainer ID. The easiest way to find this is to send a pokemon to Pokecheck [www.pokecheck.org].

I read the guides severl times over and over before I tried my first RNG, once you've done it a few times it starts to become like second nature. Also, try to learn one type of RNG on one game rather than try to laern everything at once. Focus on just capturing or just breeding. Once you get how to do one, then learn the other tricks.

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Advice Needed:
Where is the best place to RNG some Ditto's??? I have a few with more than one perfect stat, but I would like a small collection of them with three or more perfects...

I DO have Emerald, but have not tried to RNG on it. I have HG/SS but have yet to RNG on those yet... And is it possible to RNG them in D/P using the Pokeradar?

I'm open to suggestions.

***

Gonzo March 20th, 2012 5:59 AM

Ringo, You can get some Ditto's in Giant Chasm.

First, find a spread for flawless synchable nature, encounter slot 3 or 6.
Then, remove the fog in the inner plains part (save game, change the month one forwards, encounter a Pokemon - you can KO it or just run - and the fog will be cleared).
Next, put your desired synchronizer as a lead, get Chatots, take a Magikarp or Caterpie or another weakling to switch on the first turn and a Pokemon which will help you get Ditto.
In the end, hit your seed, advance the frames and catch the Ditto :)

Emerald abuse is annoying and you have to wait ages to get a flawless ditto...
Radar abuse is very annoying... I tried that, I hated that XD
I caught several flawless Ditto in HG/SS, Timid and Modest are even Shiny :3

RingoH March 20th, 2012 7:30 AM

I have barely touched Black and White. [My copy of Black I am on the fourth gym, and White I am on the second]... I really need the Dittos for my breeding projects in Diamond.

I'm guessing it's time to start to RNG in HG/SS. It was bound to happen soon anyway.

I do "eventually" want to learn RNG in Emerald because I would like to breed some of my favorites there and get some Gen III ribbons on them before migrating them... In particular I want to have a team earn the Mt. Battle ribbon in Colloseum. Learning to RNG in Emerald isn't something I planned to do "soon" was just toying with it for my Ditto needs since the easiest place in the game to run into them is in that cave, and the Frontier dude helps narrow down the IV's.

I also rarely RNG my Pokemons with more than three perfects. I think it makes each one more unique. So although a flawless Ditto in all stats would be ideal for my breeding needs... I'm really looking for like three or four of them with perfects in several stats and anything in the rest... and I don't worry about nature.

For someone who is already used to RNG abuse in Diamond: how different is HG/SS going to be?

Gonzo March 20th, 2012 7:54 AM

Oh, I thought you're abusing in BW, my bad XD

it's the same, tho you check the seed by calling Elm 10 times or if you have your roamers free, just check the map if their positions are correct.

Cordelia March 20th, 2012 8:30 AM

My newest RNG:

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/302.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Sableye ♀ Lv. 1
OT: Ginny | ID: 51120
Nature: Careful
Ability: Prankster
IVs: 31, 31, 31, 0, 31, 31 Electric 59
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Trick, Recover, Foul Play, Taunt
Non-Redis

Got this in one try ^^ Woot. :D

And RingoH, sorry to tell you but the Snorlax doesn't quite count for the challenge as you had done it before.

RingoH March 20th, 2012 8:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac of York (Post 7091877)
And RingoH, sorry to tell you but the Snorlax doesn't quite count for the challenge as you had done it before.

I can't tell if this was some good natured joking or if you missed part of what I wrote....

I have a different Poke I am planning to RNG tonight for entry into the challenge... I was only using the announcement of the latest challenge as an excuse to show him off.

Cordelia March 20th, 2012 9:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RingoH (Post 7091880)
I can't tell if this was some good natured joking or if you missed part of what I wrote....

I have a different Poke I am planning to RNG tonight for entry into the challenge... I was only using the announcement of the latest challenge as an excuse to show him off.

Sorry, misread completely... my fault. I am way tired lately :(

RingoH March 20th, 2012 9:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac of York (Post 7091904)
Sorry, misread completely... my fault. I am way tired lately :(

Tired is easily understood.... I'm coming down with a case of that too

Cordelia March 20th, 2012 9:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RingoH (Post 7091922)
Tired is easily understood.... I'm coming down with a case of that too

I have my next few RNGs planned... what do you guys think?

For Challenge: It's a surprise, I hope to get it asap! ;)
Then Adamant Scyther caught in Platinum, DW Corphish, and a Brave Totodile. All three of these are BP/CPs from my thread... I need other things to think of to RNG abuse :P

Gonzo March 20th, 2012 10:19 AM

Well, Mac, your post is inspiring and I think it's a good Idea for today's topic! the question is:

Do you guys plan your RNG abuses? Do you have a list or something or are they rather spontaneous?

We're really curious! Share your RNG habit with us! I'm going to post on topic too, but I'd like to read your experience first ;)

LegendaryFSK March 20th, 2012 10:20 AM

Challenge complete. This challenge was pretty unique and I enjoyed it...although I don't feel like Spring is coming where I live. It's been cold and snowing all day here. So I went with Teddiursa, the Little Bear Pokémon, beings how he seems nice and warm under all that fur...unlike the weather here.


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/216.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Teddiursa http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Jolly | Quick Feet | 31 31 31 31 31 31
Close Combat | Crunch | Facade | Swords Dance

Gonzo March 20th, 2012 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryFSK (Post 7091963)
Challenge complete. This challenge was pretty unique and I enjoyed it...although I don't feel like Spring is coming where I live. It's been cold and snowing all day here. So I went with Teddiursa, the Little Bear Pokémon, beings how he seems nice and warm under all that fur...unlike the weather here.


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/216.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Teddiursa http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Jolly | Quick Feet | 31 31 31 31 31 31
Close Combat | Crunch | Facade | Swords Dance

Oh, poor you! I hope Teddiursa's fur will warm you up ;)
Congrats for being the fastest with this challenge! :)

Cordelia March 20th, 2012 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryFSK (Post 7091963)
Challenge complete. This challenge was pretty unique and I enjoyed it...although I don't feel like Spring is coming where I live. It's been cold and snowing all day here. So I went with Teddiursa, the Little Bear Pokémon, beings how he seems nice and warm under all that fur...unlike the weather here.


http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/216.gifhttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/004.png
Teddiursa http://www.pokecheck.org/i/shiny.png http://www.pokecheck.org/i/male.png | Level 1
Jay Jay | 37261 | Black
Jolly | Quick Feet | 31 31 31 31 31 31
Close Combat | Crunch | Facade | Swords Dance

Oi, I love Teddiursa! He's probably one of the picture perfect Pokemon for this challenge since he's a teddy bear. If he lived where I lived, he would have come out of his cave weeks ago... hell, he might have barely been in it. We hardly had three weeks of winter here this year. :3

For the topic -- I usually try to plan out my RNG abuses in my head, but every so often I'll read something about an awesome competitive Poke and I'm like OMG I most RNG that as soon as possible. That's where the Sableye with Prankster came in... I just had to have one, so I abused one myself.

vaporeon7 March 20th, 2012 1:06 PM

I finished the challenge too~
I RNGed Poliwag as many types of frogs hibernate during winter to escape the cold and what not. I was going to do a Teddiursa but I thought I'd go for something a little different. I always loved digging up the frogs and tadpoles from underneath the mud when I was little in Spring. It was so fun. Also am I supposed to post my Pokémon in the format above? I'll just do it now just in case.

oocyst March 20th, 2012 1:08 PM

I did my challenge and I'm gonna write up why I did this guy!

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/060.png
Poliwag
Swift Swim|Modest|HP Grass
31|14|31|30|31|31
Water Sport|Encore
Hatched in Moor of Icirrus

So among the animals that hibernate are the amphibians, the frogs and newts and salamanders and all that. Most species just spend the winters on the bottom of ponds, partially burrowed in the mud, waiting for winter to be over. However, there is a species of frog that can survive the harsh winter colds, even when frozen solid! They store enough glucose in their organs to stop them from crystallizing, while the exterior part of their bodies freezes. This way they can stay alive even when completely frozen.

That's why I did poliwag, the little tadpole that will one day turn into a cute frog or a burly toad! I think mine is destined to become a cute froggy kinda poli. I love frogs <33

And for the topic, no, I don't plan out my RNGs, when a pokemon I like springs to mind I just get the urge to RNG it and then I do it.

Cordelia March 20th, 2012 1:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7092162)
I finished the challenge too~
I RNGed Poliwag as many types of frogs hibernate during winter to escape the cold and what not. I was going to do a Teddiursa but I thought I'd go for something a little different. I always loved digging up the frogs and tadpoles from underneath the mud when I was little in Spring. It was so fun. Also am I supposed to post my Pokémon in the format above? I'll just do it now just in case.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rednael (Post 7092166)
I did my challenge and I'm gonna write up why I did this guy!

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/060.png
Poliwag
Swift Swim|Modest|HP Grass
31|14|31|30|31|31
Water Sport|Encore
Hatched in Moor of Icirrus

So among the animals that hibernate are the amphibians, the frogs and newts and salamanders and all that. Most species just spend the winters on the bottom of ponds, partially burrowed in the mud, waiting for winter to be over. However, there is a species of frog that can survive the harsh winter colds, even when frozen solid! They store enough glucose in their organs to stop them from crystallizing, while the exterior part of their bodies freezes. This way they can stay alive even when completely frozen.

That's why I did poliwag, the little tadpole that will one day turn into a cute frog or a burly toad! I love frogs <33

And for the topic, no, I don't plan out my RNGs, when a pokemon I like springs to mind I just get the urge to RNG it and then I do it.

Haha, you two posted the same challenge entry almost at the same time! That's fine though, just rather funny how things work like that. Both are very nice RNG abuses, so keep up the great work. I didn't even know that frogs hibernated during winter... shows what I know about animals (absolutely nothing).

Gonzo March 20th, 2012 1:29 PM

Vaporeon, Rednael, you stole my Pokemon T^T

Let's see... what else is worth abusing...

Keiran March 20th, 2012 1:49 PM

http://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/327.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/notshiny.png #327 Spinda ♀ Lv.10 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/576.png
OT: Dylan ♂ | ID: 35637
Jolly - Contrary
IVs:31/31/31/31/31/31 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/typ/2/17.png
Superpower - Uproar - Copycat - Tackle

SPRINGDA.

LegendaryFSK March 20th, 2012 2:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonz0 (Post 7091981)


Oh, poor you! I hope Teddiursa's fur will warm you up ;)
Congrats for being the fastest with this challenge! :)

Thank you. Unfortunately, the only reason I was able to get it done so quick is because I threw out my back yesterday and have been in bed almost the whole time since then. Gives me a perfect reason to play Pokémon and RNG though...so it's all good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mac of York (Post 7091985)
Oi, I love Teddiursa! He's probably one of the picture perfect Pokemon for this challenge since he's a teddy bear. If he lived where I lived, he would have come out of his cave weeks ago... hell, he might have barely been in it. We hardly had three weeks of winter here this year. :3

For the topic -- I usually try to plan out my RNG abuses in my head, but every so often I'll read something about an awesome competitive Poke and I'm like OMG I most RNG that as soon as possible. That's where the Sableye with Prankster came in... I just had to have one, so I abused one myself.

Man, I wish I lived where you live then. I'm not a big fan of the cold and snow at all. My first thought for this challenge was going to be Tympole, but when I looked outside and saw all the snow, I just thought of something warm and Teddiursa was perfect.


As far as today's topic goes, like Mac of York, I usually try and plan my abuses out, but most of the time I get totally sidetracked and usually RNG abuse something completely random. I have never battled competitively, but I read a lot of analysis on different competitive Pokémon and I get excited and RNG one of them instead...then of course never use them in a battle. lol.

Gonzo March 20th, 2012 2:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keiran777 (Post 7092215)
http://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/327.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/notshiny.png #327 Spinda ♀ Lv.10 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/576.png
OT: Dylan ♂ | ID: 35637
Jolly - Contrary
IVs:31/31/31/31/31/31 http://www.pokecheck.org/i/typ/2/17.png
Superpower - Uproar - Copycat - Tackle

SPRINGDA.

Nice one, but... can't see the reason why Spinda :P that's the key to the challenge.

Keiran March 20th, 2012 3:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonz0 (Post 7092296)

Nice one, but... can't see the reason why Spinda :P that's the key to the challenge.

It's a little teddy bear thing!

vaporeon7 March 20th, 2012 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keiran777 (Post 7092345)
It's a little teddy bear thing!

Aren't they based off pandas, which don't hibernate?

RingoH March 21st, 2012 3:32 AM

Ok... Time to show off my entry. I was thinking a little creative here. I chose Slakoth. Now, yes the name is based off of a sloth [and in the anime it's appearance is more like a sloth], the sprite has always made me think of a Lemur. It's shadow around the eyes, and stripes. The Lemur is the only primate known to hibernate [although I was reading that this is a much shorter hibernation than we traditionaly think of such as bears have]. To fathur my Lemur analogy I am refering you all to King Jullian from Penguins of Madagasgar who does a lot of dancing... Vigoroth, Slakoth's first evolution, I have always thought looks more like it's dancing than it's attacking in it's animated sprite. Lastly, its final evolution is Slaking [King -- As in King Jullian].

I decided he needed to be Relaxed only for aesthetic reasons, a sleeping, hibernating Pokemon sure better feel relaxed... And I decided to sync the Characteristic into this challenge, which was harder than I thought it would be... I had to make sure I only had one perfect in order to assure this. So here I present my very sleepy, hibernating[or at least hibernating every other turn], Slakoth who hopes one day to be a King just like the cute annoying Lemur from penguins:

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfsb/dpmfsb287.png
Slokoth - *Shiny*
Male - Relaxed
Egg Hatched - Lvl. 1
31 / 15 / 29 / 9 / 28 / 23
HP - Steel 36
**Characteristic - Often Dozes Off **
He was a lot of fun to RNG.

As for the question of the day:
I have a mental list of which pokemon I want to RNG. Most of the time I just care about shiny and stats are a little secondary. I get more interested in a decent Hidden Power than I do actual stats, even if I dont intend to put Hidden Power on it. My first goals as an RNGer are a collection of shiny starters [half way there], a collection of shiny Eevolutions [not there yet as I want wish as an egg move and I've been too lazy to raise my Togepi to get it], and most of the Pokemon from the fairy egg group[I like cute Pokemon]. I also want to RNG all my Legendaries from now on [so far only done a Giratina]. There area a few random Pokemon I am RNGing in the process. For example, the Snorlax I showed off yesterday. I needed a male Snorlax to pass down Belly Drum to my Charizard while doing the First Gen Starters [I was copying a Bellyzard I saw on Smogon]. I figured since I was breeding to get a Male in the first place I might as well breed him Shiny, and since I was going to RNG him I might as well give him some decent stats too. Likewise I RNGed a Roselia, while part of the Fairy Group it's not one of the species I consider "cute" and part of my must have list... I needed Aromatherapy to pass down to a Chansey though. I am glad I did RNG the Roselia though because the Shiny Sprite in my opinion is so cool I feel I would have missed out by not doing it. So anytime I am planning on breeding an egg move I'm sidetracking my RNG plans to include the father pokemon being bred shiny first. Lastly, a few random Pokemon I happen to like are getting done early. Such as Porygon, which I've bred two shiny, and done a capture [the capture was my team rocket challenge entry]. The capture was partially because I wanted my first RNG capture to be a pokemon that was special to me, and partially because I messed up both my egg hatched ones by giving them the wrong ability.

Ever since Emerald I have been enthusiastic about breeding. I was once able to chain breed to get a Pokemon with four perfect IV's. That was a lot and I mean a LOT of getting eggs and hatching them over and over. At the time I had nearly an hour commute to work by bus and spent my bus ride every day playing Pokemon. RNGing takes a lot less time out of breeding. Last night I decided I would take a crack at Emerald RNG abuse. I understand why it would be annoying for most use. However, I think I'll get the hang of it. If I do.... I'll be looking to restart Emerald soon so I can catch all the Hoenn Legendaries shiny, especially the Golem Trio. Trouble is I think I would want to buy a second copy of Emerald somewhere... I have every box in my pc full, and I'm only around 10 pokemon shy of a complete National Dex. We'll see. I need some continued experimentation before I decide if playing around in Emerald is worth my time or not.

何贤豪 March 21st, 2012 5:13 AM

Okay...for your question...I'm going to say:

I pretty much plan my RNG abuses, but they sometimes get a bit problematic (I focus on all of them, making it harder).

Speaking of RNG abuse...I think I'll just stop on HGSS RNG abuse. Man, that RNG abuse is a pain. Delays are going to drive me crazy. I'd rather work on BW RNG abuse...I have yet to get the SPR2012 Zekrom (it is spring, right?) and Nobunaga's Rayquaza. I think it could go well. If it doesn't, I'll just leave them in the box and transfer them when I can. It's a long shot anyway...because I use a flash cart.\

(I hope this isn't a problematic post)


Cordelia March 21st, 2012 10:00 AM

So, after much hard work, I finally present entry for the challenge:

http://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/008.pnghttp://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/1.pnghttp://www.pokecheck.org/i/itm/008.png
Bulbasaur ♂ Lv. 10
OT: Spock | ID: 51241
Nature: Modest
Ability: Chlorophyll
IVs: 31, 10, 31, 30, 31, 30 Fire 70
EVs: Untrained
Moves: Tackle, Growl, Leech Seed, Vine Whip
Not For Trade
Injected into Entralink, Japanese Rom

Bulbasaur might not be the first thing you think of when you think of a hibernating Pokemon, but I'd like to think that it does hibernate during the winter. It needs to protect its bulb and the best way to do that is to find a nice, warm cave and lay down to sleep during the cold season. Then, when it comes around to spring, it could show up and enjoy the warmer weather and the sunshine and then perhaps its bulb will have matured enough to work on blooming, then evolving into Ivysaur and eventually Venusaur.

I hope that's OK... lol, I wanted to do Bulbasaur really bad xD


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