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Zelda April 15th, 2012 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7133326)
Cheren would make a good champ, but I just wish they would Acknowledge the player character for once...
I think Alder might be retired by now so maybe his Student Marshall takes lver, while Cheren become one of the E4 if not the champ.

I forgot about Marshal being Alder's apprentice! I think after two years you would think Alder would hand over his champion spot to him, if not Cheren. Cheren being at least an E4 member would please me.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 15th, 2012 12:51 PM

I can see Cheren having Pokemon around the same levels Marshall did (if I remember correctly Marshall's Pokemon were slightly higher in level that the other 3). I do wonder how Cheren will decorate his room though...maybe it'll be full of books like a library but that's Shauntel's thing...

pokemonkidtotodile April 15th, 2012 3:03 PM

I liked the elite four from B/W but I did not care for the champion, Alder. I guess I would like to see the rival as the champion

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 15th, 2012 5:05 PM

I wouldn't mind if the Rival was the champ, but that would mean that he defeated however was the champ before him, unless Alder left the spot empty, making it like in Red and Blue in which when the Rival defeats the E4 he automatically becomes the champion.

Zelda April 23rd, 2012 2:26 AM

I don't really want the rival as the champion because Cheren is more deserving for the spot. Though we know nothing about the rival, I wouldn't like him to suddenly be the champion of Unova after defeating Alder, because what about us? We would defeat him too, so why can't we be the champion?? However Alder, he deserves to retire. I mean, he should just go explore the region and have a good time. :P

Great Horned Noctowl April 23rd, 2012 2:40 AM

Like rocky505 said, Alder is old and must retire. To me, he looks old.

Hikamaru April 23rd, 2012 2:42 AM

I'd agree with these guys and say that Cheren should be the new Champion, cos he's my fave rival from the games so far so to see him as Champion would be neat.

HyperXhydra April 23rd, 2012 5:17 AM

I think Grimsley and Caitlin that are possible to change.

DarkWolf13 April 23rd, 2012 6:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaori (Post 7133376)

I forgot about Marshal being Alder's apprentice! I think after two years you would think Alder would hand over his champion spot to him, if not Cheren. Cheren being at least an E4 member would please me.

To have Marshal, the Fighting-Type user of the Elite 4, as the Champion for this game would definitely be neat. Also, Cheren has the potential as shown in BW to be the champion

Ho-Oh April 23rd, 2012 6:14 AM

Well that'd make sense to me, considering how hard he was to beat in B/W, I think he'd suit the champion role perfectly tbh. I also think his team wouldn't need much changing from B/W to be a tough champion >>

dreamcatcher April 23rd, 2012 6:18 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing Alder retired. Maybe Cherin would make a good champion, he was hard to defeat during the endgame. I hope they add new members to the E4 too, but keep the same battle format. I despise triple battles, and don't really care for double battles. And I like being able to choose who I can battle.

Jellicent♀ April 23rd, 2012 6:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7145521)
Well that'd make sense to me, considering how hard he was to beat in B/W, I think he'd suit the champion role perfectly tbh. I also think his team wouldn't need much changing from B/W to be a tough champion >>

I would say remover the starter and monkey from his team, though. I mean, those two were completely dependent on which starter Pokemon you chose in Black and White. Maybe giving him two, even more difficult Pokemon would do well. Like maybe one of the older Pokemon in his team now that those Pokemon have appeared in the region.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 23rd, 2012 3:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jellicent♀ (Post 7145548)
I would say remover the starter and monkey from his team, though. I mean, those two were completely dependent on which starter Pokemon you chose in Black and White. Maybe giving him two, even more difficult Pokemon would do well. Like maybe one of the older Pokemon in his team now that those Pokemon have appeared in the region.

You mean similar to how Blue lost his starter in the remakes, that could be. If he was to gain two new Pokemon I'll like for him to gain Metagross and Milotic (That would be a total RS remake hint) seeing how they are both quite strong, plus multiple champs have had them such as Steven, Cynthia (Pt), and Wallace.

Kenshin5 April 23rd, 2012 3:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jellicent♀ (Post 7145548)
I would say remover the starter and monkey from his team, though. I mean, those two were completely dependent on which starter Pokemon you chose in Black and White. Maybe giving him two, even more difficult Pokemon would do well. Like maybe one of the older Pokemon in his team now that those Pokemon have appeared in the region.

I'd even go farther to rework his team. I found Liepard to be extremely weak and useless imo. And there is better flying types to use other then Unfezant.

So I'd like to see a team like this.
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He has a lot of type coverage and it also spans every gen. Although I might replace Gigalith as well although I like it.
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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7146126)

You mean similar to how Blue lost his starter in the remakes, that could be. If he was to gain two new Pokemon I'll like for him to gain Metagross and Milotic (That would be a total RS remake hint) seeing how they are both quite strong, plus multiple champs have had them such as Steven, Cynthia (Pt), and Wallace.

Only problem I have with Metagross is Caitlin was using one in the prior game, pending she is in the Elite Four still.

I'm all for Cheren being the Champ, I'd rather have him there as opposed to the rival. Anyone else have any idea what you would want the Champs team to look like?

Jellicent♀ April 23rd, 2012 3:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenshin5 (Post 7146169)
I'm all for Cheren being the Champ, I'd rather have him there as opposed to the rival. Anyone else have any idea what you would want the Champs team to look like?

I'd love to see Cheren as the champ, but with Haxorus, Gigalith, Arcanine, Magnezone, Umbreon, and I could see him with a Conkeldurr, to be honest. Maybe like, as an ode to Marshal.

Zelda April 23rd, 2012 4:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jellicent♀ (Post 7146187)
I'd love to see Cheren as the champ, but with Haxorus, Gigalith, Arcanine, Magnezone, Umbreon, and I could see him with a Conkeldurr, to be honest. Maybe like, as an ode to Marshal.

As the champ, I would at least like to see him stick with his starter. He went throughout his whole journey with it, and it would be great if he kept it at such a high rank. But that's to say if Cheren will even be the new champion.

FREEFIGHTER07 April 23rd, 2012 4:18 PM

yeah, I agree, its going to be just the same most likely

Kenshin5 April 23rd, 2012 6:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jellicent♀ (Post 7146187)
I'd love to see Cheren as the champ, but with Haxorus, Gigalith, Arcanine, Magnezone, Umbreon, and I could see him with a Conkeldurr, to be honest. Maybe like, as an ode to Marshal.

I think if they did still have Marshal that Conkeldurr would still be on his team and Cheren would have a different choice. Now if Marshal wasn't there I'd love too see a Fighting type on his team. Anything would be an upgrade from BW imo.

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Originally Posted by Kaori (Post 7146204)

As the champ, I would at least like to see him stick with his starter. He went throughout his whole journey with it, and it would be great if he kept it at such a high rank. But that's to say if Cheren will even be the new champion.

Then I assume the starter would be determined on the one you picked?

Jellicent♀ April 23rd, 2012 6:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenshin5 (Post 7146445)
I think if they did still have Marshal that Conkeldurr would still be on his team and Cheren would have a different choice. Now if Marshal wasn't there I'd love too see a Fighting type on his team. Anything would be an upgrade from BW imo.


Then I assume the starter would be determined on the one you picked?

He needs an upgrade for sure. Unfezant and Liepard are cool Pokemon, but for a Champion, not so much.

And if he were to get a starter Pokemon based off of which we chose, it'd just feel too much like a rival again.

I think Marshal should retire from the Elite Four, though. He was cool and kind and all that jazz, but he seems more like the type of guy who would rather travel than stay in one spot.

Zelda April 24th, 2012 1:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jellicent♀ (Post 7146516)
He needs an upgrade for sure. Unfezant and Liepard are cool Pokemon, but for a Champion, not so much.

And if he were to get a starter Pokemon based off of which we chose, it'd just feel too much like a rival again.

I think Marshal should retire from the Elite Four, though. He was cool and kind and all that jazz, but he seems more like the type of guy who would rather travel than stay in one spot.

Well to be honest with you I see nothing wrong with the starter being based off of what we choose (and the rival's choice as well) considering we don't have two rivals this time. Plus Cheren would be much stronger than he was before, so it will hardly feel very rivalry. Unless you think back to Black and White I guess.

As for Marshal, why would you want him to retire? :[ He was still Alder's apprentice, and two years later you think he would be a lot stronger and well trained. I could see him as a Frontier Brain though (if there happens to be a Battle Frontier).

Guy April 24th, 2012 4:55 AM

With new gym leaders being introduced, I think it's safe to say it's very possible we could see a slight change in the Elite 4. Maybe not a complete overhaul, but perhaps a previous gym leader could be seen as a new Elite 4 Member much like Koga in GSC / HeartGold and SoulSilver.

Drayden could be that gym leader who takes on an Elite position, while Iris gets complete ownership of the Opelucid Gym.

Also, I'll put myself next to those who say Alder should be retired and Cheren should be the next Champion of Unova. After two years, it'd make sense for Alder to have retired so we can get a new Champion, and Cheren just makes the most sense to be his replacement. Cheren's team would need a bit of a revamp though, and as you would expect, we could probably battle Alder at a later point in the game.

Some other minor changes I'd like to see are the Elite 4 gaining back five Pokémon on their roster and adjusting their teams so it'll include some of the older Pokémon.

...and I'm not going to lie, but I wouldn't mind if they revert back to a set order in how you battle the Elite. Having each of the members at equal strength just lessened the challenge in my opinion. I liked it better when the next member gradually got stronger as you defeated the one before.

Now, if they can do this all the while letting you choose the order of which you battle the Elite, then I think it'll be a win/win situation.

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Originally Posted by Kaori (Post 7146876)
As for Marshal, why would you want him to retire? :[ He was still Alder's apprentice, and two years later you think he would be a lot stronger and well trained. I could see him as a Frontier Brain though (if there happens to be a Battle Frontier).

Oh yes! If a Battle Frontier does happen to be introduced, then I wouldn't mind some of Elite Members becoming Frontier Brains just so we could get further changes with the Elite 4. I question though, would Caitlin go back as one of those Frontier Brains, considering she was one previously?

Captain Fabio April 24th, 2012 5:05 AM

It would be nice to see a variation of the E4 from B&W; then it won't feel like they have just been thrown back in.


Jellicent♀ April 24th, 2012 6:20 AM

@Kaori: Actually he never felt like much of an Elite Four kinda guy. Battle Frontier I could most certainly see him in, but the only reason I though he could be an Elite Four member was only because he was Alder's student. Idk, I just wouldn't mind seeing him out of the Elite Four. Plus, like Aerilyn said, I think if they brought another Battle Facility, some of the current Elite Four members would really be fun to see there.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ April 24th, 2012 6:59 AM

Alder needs to go. Didn't care for Marshal, but he or Cheren seem the next obvious in line to be Champion, as much as I would like to see another female champion, I just don't think Bianca's up to the task.

Ho-Oh April 24th, 2012 7:01 AM

@ Cheren champion: perhaps he could have three sets of teams created around what your starter was. Why place such a big emphasis on that in B/W yet kinda ditch that in B2W2 in the Elite Four? :x

And... yeah Bianca would not be the smartest champion lool.


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