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PokeHumanManectric April 7th, 2012 3:37 PM

They're not legendary!
 
Why do people think Zoroark, Lucario, and sometimes even Pikachu are legendary! This annoys me.
I think there are two reasons for this, in my opinion:
They assume they are, because Zoroark and Lucario both have their own movies and Pikachu is just the main Pokemon.
They're not Pokemon fans enough to look at official reasons why they aren't legendary.

What do you guys think?

bwburke94 April 7th, 2012 3:49 PM

And then there's the Phione discussion. Let's not get into that, since there WILL be flame wars over Phione.

camoclone April 7th, 2012 4:33 PM

They're not legendary!
 
[SIZE="a"]Isn't no ledgendary pokemon evolves (yet) so they can't be.[/SIZE]

BBA_Beyblader_321 April 8th, 2012 5:56 PM

It annoys me too. In all honesty, I think it's mostly the pokemon who have had their own movies. Or something that has made them special.

Scorpiopt April 8th, 2012 8:47 PM

they are at most pseudo legendary Zoroark and Lucario ). and Pikachu ? never heard of that one before

Turn-it April 8th, 2012 8:58 PM

I admit, when I first heard about Zorark I thought it was legendary but that's because I didn't know about little Zorua. Easy mistake. But saying they aren't pokemon fans or aren't big enough fans because they didn't know is a bit much but to each his own. :D

Scorpiopt April 9th, 2012 5:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turn-it (Post 7121708)
I admit, when I first heard about Zorark I thought it was legendary but that's because I didn't know about little Zorua. Easy mistake. But saying they aren't pokemon fans or aren't big enough fans because they didn't know is a bit much but to each his own. :D

Agree
Most people that think that Zoroark and Lucario are legendary do so because they have their own movies and held on their own against legendary pokemon
Same may lead people to think Unknown being legendary because of the movie and their ability

EGKangaroo April 9th, 2012 5:35 AM

They're pseudo-legendary yeah, but deffo not full-blown legendary.

TheFattestSnorlax April 9th, 2012 7:11 AM

Found an interesting factoid.

Arcanine's description is "The Legendary Pokemon" While in fact it isn't a legendary at all!

Limanya April 9th, 2012 7:14 AM

And Arcanine isn't even a pseudo-legendary! Zoroark and Lucario aren't pseudo-legendary too. But Dragonite, Tyranitar, Salamence, Metagross, Garchomp and Hydreigon are.

Atomic Pirate April 9th, 2012 8:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scorpiopt (Post 7121673)
they are at most pseudo legendary Zoroark and Lucario ). and Pikachu ? never heard of that one before

Lucario and Zoroark are not Pseudo-legendaries. Are they 3rd evolutions? No. Do they have Base-Stat Totals of 600? No. Thus, they are not Pseudo-Legendaries.

If they were legendaries, then I would hate them even more than I already do, if that's even possible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheFattestSnorlax (Post 7122361)
Found an interesting factoid.

Arcanine's description is "The Legendary Pokemon" While in fact it isn't a legendary at all!

Arcanine is the "Legendary Pokemon" because of it's appearance, based off a mythical Koma-Inu.

EGKangaroo April 9th, 2012 9:09 AM

Well, apparently, people have already named this group of pokémon semi-pseudo-legendaries, but really, there comes a point where it just gets ridiculous when you have to add 2 prefixes just to get to one group of pokémon whom are commonly believed to be legendary because of their features in movies, base stats not reaching the full 600 or above, or just plainly the apparent lore involving them that impacts the history of the pokémon world to at least some degree. It seems to me that trying to come up with an official definition for pokémon who are not officially legendary but still are considered legendary goes just a little bit too far and is too much influenced by subjectivity in the first place to really be bothered with. To be frank though, I really don't understand what the big deal is about people who consider pokémon legendary or even just pseudo-legendary when they officially aren't because the standards they use for it are different. Big woop-tee-doo, really.

Scorpiopt April 9th, 2012 9:38 AM

What makes a pseudo legendary ? has 3 evolutions? its stats? being close to the legendary in pokedex number?
Why it has to be so strict ? in the end pseudo legendary are just a concept to classify certain pokemons , and those are open to personal interpretation and can be changed
Even the Legendary "rules" were shaken wen Manaphy and Phione showed up

Not everything has to be black and white ;)

Jobrjo April 9th, 2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PokeHumanManectric (Post 7119489)
Why do people think Zoroark, Lucario, and sometimes even Pikachu are legendary! This annoys me.
I think there are two reasons for this, in my opinion:
They assume they are, because Zoroark and Lucario both have their own movies and Pikachu is just the main Pokemon.
They're not Pokemon fans enough to look at official reasons why they aren't legendary.

What do you guys think?

Congragulations my friend, you just answered your question :)

Outkin April 9th, 2012 12:13 PM

It doesn't help that some pokemon have overpowered god-like abilities in the Anime/Movies. Moves hit harder then they should, abilities are blown up and abused.....it's almost (or is it?) at the point where the anime and the games are two completely different series, and what do most "Normal" people see more/first? Then they're left thinking these pokemon are legendary because they have flashy epic abilities....

TheFattestSnorlax April 9th, 2012 12:52 PM

Come to think of it, I have seen people on the internet that say that snorlax is a legendary...
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg

Ryuke February 7th, 2022 1:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PokeHumanManectric (Post 7119489)
Why do people think Zoroark, Lucario, and sometimes even Pikachu are legendary! This annoys me.
I think there are two reasons for this, in my opinion:
They assume they are, because Zoroark and Lucario both have their own movies and Pikachu is just the main Pokemon.
They're not Pokemon fans enough to look at official reasons why they aren't legendary.

What do you guys think?

To be completely honest I thought lucario to be legendary not only cause of the movie but its op moveset, it can use telepathy, and just the fact when the movie released it was unique, with qualities, powers, and the backstory fit and normally reserved for a legendary. I'm my opinion lucario should've been a legendary but I'm biased. Now the other two I cant tell you why there, especially pikachu. Seeing that made my brain hurt tbh.

Ryuke February 7th, 2022 2:02 AM

I couldn't believe he wont even a pseudo legendary pokemon only semi pseudo. That's baffling tbh

Sweet Serenity February 7th, 2022 9:13 AM

While I'm not saying that this doesn't happen, personally, I've never heard anybody say that Zoroark, Lucario, and even Pikachu are legendary Pokémon. However, if I had to guess, I would say some people might believe they're legendary because they had movies based on them, as many people in this thread already said. They might assume that Pikachu is legendary because it's the mascot of Pokémon in general, whereas some actual legendary Pokémon tend to be box cover mascots of the mainline Pokémon games. Yet, if you ask me, I would say that Pikachu is a "legendary" Pokémon for other reasons. Pikachu is clearly the most popular Pokémon of all, as it is known by almost everybody, including people that never played the games, read the manga, or watched the anime. It also does a great job of marketing the entire franchise. Even the name of a biochemical substance, Pikachurin, was inspired by Pikachu. While Pikachu might not be a legendary Pokémon in the games or any form of Pokémon media, Pikachu is definitely "legendary" as a pop culture icon.

Ninetales February 8th, 2022 2:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Serenity (Post 10467533)
While I'm not saying that this doesn't happen, personally, I've never heard anybody say that Zoroark, Lucario, and even Pikachu are legendary Pokémon. However, if I had to guess, I would say some people might believe they're legendary because they had movies based on them, as many people in this thread already said. They might assume that Pikachu is legendary because it's the mascot of Pokémon in general, whereas some actual legendary Pokémon tend to be box cover mascots of the mainline Pokémon games. Yet, if you ask me, I would say that Pikachu is a "legendary" Pokémon for other reasons. Pikachu is clearly the most popular Pokémon of all, as it is known by almost everybody, including people that never played the games, read the manga, or watched the anime. It also does a great job of marketing the entire franchise. Even the name of a biochemical substance, Pikachurin, was inspired by Pikachu. While Pikachu might not be a legendary Pokémon in the games or any form of Pokémon media, Pikachu is definitely "legendary" as a pop culture icon.


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