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OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 12th, 2012 9:39 PM

Who knows, maybe by map they mean region...but it does look quite strange...if it is frozen gf should have drawn a better map...

Oryx April 12th, 2012 10:02 PM

I'm getting a Kanto feel from that Ice near the starting town...Like how you could Surf later from Pallet Town. Maybe a post-game kind of thing to make the starting town actually relevant?

Ho-Oh April 12th, 2012 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Toujours (Post 7128865)
I'm getting a Kanto feel from that Ice near the starting town...Like how you could Surf later from Pallet Town. Maybe a post-game kind of thing to make the starting town actually relevant?

YES. Idk why else they would've hid that part specifically, especially when there's descriptive... parts there (the non-trees). :x

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 12th, 2012 10:07 PM

I don't know why either...
I hope that the city does play a role, maybe you go back during the journey.
Also this thought just occured to me, but what became of the Subway...I mean some of it's routes were under the places now covered in ice...maybe the trains will take you under the ice to the other side...

Oryx April 12th, 2012 10:16 PM

Didn't we just determine that the ice isn't on the region, just the map? XD

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 12th, 2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Toujours (Post 7128891)
Didn't we just determine that the ice isn't on the region, just the map? XD

Well it has yet to be confirmed xD. It could simply be a barrier over the region, as I said before Kyurem is known as the Boundary Pokemon, they will most likely explain why it's called that like they did with Rayquaza with having the player climb up high, and it flying up high during E to stop Grou and Kyo, and Giratina being the Renegade pokemon and later explaining it's banishment to the distortion world in Pt. It's dex title has to play a part...

Ho-Oh April 12th, 2012 10:30 PM

...I honestly want the ice to really be there, because a subway journey through the ice sounds amazing. I'm thinking the ice may be there though tbh, GF has surprised us a lot lately and I figured if they were doing anything, then yeah, a frozen Unova would be the best kind of storyline tbh.

Jake that'd mean it'd be frozen from the start, though. :(

Oryx April 12th, 2012 10:34 PM

Well it could be encroaching ice. Like the protagonist leaving their home to find a way to stop the ice that's on the verge of swallowing up their town.

Ho-Oh April 12th, 2012 10:50 PM

Well that could also be a reason why the protagonist leaves home, to try and stop that ice from approaching their hometown. :x I like that as a reason to leave home tbh, makes since not having B/W's characters. :(

...I just had an awesome thought, what if the ice really is in the games - and you can see the edge of it from where you're standing, like at Castelia City you look over in the distance and see this really nice ice scene. :3 Actually going under it would be kinda awesome too...

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 12th, 2012 10:55 PM

Wow, an actual reason to go to your Journey, this will be the first reason since GSC and their remakes given for the character to leave town if true, which I'm hoping it is, it'll just show how threatening Kyurem truely is...

Xander Olivieri April 12th, 2012 11:22 PM

Gen 1: You have to go on an errand after attaining your First Pokemon from Professor Oak as customary in that town/region. After the Errand Oak encourages you to test your skills as a trainer and to seek fame and Glory. TR story doesn't start until Mount Moon. (After First Gym)

Gen 2: You are running an Errand for Elm and given a Pokemon to defend yourself from wild Pokemon. After you finish your Errand you are (again) encouraged to take the League Challenge. You don't meet Team Rocket for the main story until Azalea. (After First Gym)

Gen 3: You hear Birch's cries for help, after getting a Pokemon ans showing battle skills he asks you to assist him and his daughter with their research, later (after talking to your dad another city over) you are encouraged to battle the league. You meet the main villan and start the main story after beating Roxanne and assisint the Devon Corp guy and Mr. Briney, saving them from Mascot team. (After First Gym)

Gen 4: You and your close friend seek adventure. (In D/P you leave to search for the Legendary Lake Pokemon after watching the news report on the Red Gyarados. In Pt you leave to ask Prof. Rowan questions. You are given your Pokemon (or retrieved them at the lake) and are asked to come by Rowan's lab later. Once there you are encouraged (AGAIN) by others to take part in the Pokemon League. You meet the main villans and get started on the main story after returning to Jubilife (After the first Gym battle) and assisting Rowan's assistant in a battle against Galactic Grunts. (Pt you meet Cyrus at the lake. which changes part of it though you do not know him as the main bad guy yet. First real encounter with Galactic is in Jubilife)

Gen 5: You receive Pokemon from the Professor as a Birthday gift and share with your friends. After going to thank the prof. for the gifts she asks you to assist her, and later you and your friend start to walk down the path of the League Trainer. You meet Plasma in the next town (breaking the cycle even though first battle encounter isn't until Dream Yard after the First Gym).

Following the cycle, I'm gunna ball park, You and your rival receive your Pokemon while attending the Trainer school. After receiving starter you are challenged by your rival to challenge the Gyms and leave on your journey.

The new Professor can recruit the two characters to assist with his study of Pokemon "Strengths".

I don't see it being too far off from this scenario. Maybe different reason for leaving, but I doubt its to save the world as that always comes from incidental build up. Reoccurring villains that just build up your will to defy them and stop their evil deeds before they harm everyone.

Not to mention the local police and people of power are just going to force you to do it anyway like they always do.

Oryx April 13th, 2012 4:01 AM

This prediction fits more here than anywhere else, since this town is covered in ice in the map so it must have a pretty drastic change. I'm gonna predict that Nuvema town is now a city and that's where the last gym is. :3

Ho-Oh April 13th, 2012 4:08 AM

Hmm possibly! Or the remains, under the ice are instead where it is. Actually, if it is iced over, I'm interested in how long it could've been iced over for and what's underneath those actual places. Have they become ruins?

LordSalamence April 13th, 2012 4:59 AM

I didn't like it when the eastern part froze.I like undella town its my type i like beaches.

LordSalamence April 13th, 2012 5:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaosSonic (Post 7128155)
The only two gym cities that are 'covered over' in ice are Striaton City and Nacrene City.

It seems that it there's more mature atmosphere concrening the region, as many areas/parts of other cities have either improved/changed/gone. Well for one, the route betweem Castelia and Nimbasa is FINALLY DONE...so what makes of Desert Resort?

You forgot mistralton,icirrus,and opelucid city.

The ancient castle is probably gone by now covered in sand.

Oryx April 13th, 2012 5:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7129147)
Hmm possibly! Or the remains, under the ice are instead where it is. Actually, if it is iced over, I'm interested in how long it could've been iced over for and what's underneath those actual places. Have they become ruins?

I would find it really strange if they finish construction around Castelia and allowed the other towns to fall into ruin. I'm speaking about it as map ice though, not region ice haha.

Esper April 13th, 2012 8:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Toujours (Post 7129140)
This prediction fits more here than anywhere else, since this town is covered in ice in the map so it must have a pretty drastic change. I'm gonna predict that Nuvema town is now a city and that's where the last gym is. :3

Or it could be that other town you visit early in the game, the one where you meet N that has nothing in it. It really needs to have something in it to give it a reason to exist now that it's not just the first new town you visit.

TCB April 13th, 2012 8:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 7129195)
It looks like there's a new beach town anyway.

I think we've established that the region hasn't been frozen over. (Or really, it hasn't been explicitly stated that it's frozen over.)

Seems that way, but always fun to speculate if small parts are frozen/been affected in some way right?

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Originally Posted by LordSalamence (Post 7129200)
You forgot mistralton,icirrus,and opelucid city.

The ancient castle is probably gone by now covered in sand.

Based on the scan of the map of the region, Opelucid isn't 'covered/frozen over' but rather on the verge of being 'covered/frozen over'. I didn't consider Mistralton or Icirrus until I had a closer inspection of the scan. Good eye.

Xander Olivieri April 13th, 2012 7:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 7130542)
Well I give in. Given that the frozen design is in the website's map, and the text raises the question of why the map is covered in ice, you have to conclude that something's happening in the areas frozen over on the map.

Maybe they really are frozen over. Scary thought.

Or maybe they're just like the clouds; they're hiding something.

You can clearly see through certain parts to blurry landscapes which still tell us alot about a few of the changes. They are just hiding things. So far Chargestone Cave, Mistralon Cave, and the area where Black City/White Forest were are frozen on the actual map.

Ho-Oh April 13th, 2012 7:42 PM

I think they are frozen over tbh. Considering the fact that Kyurem is the main Pokemon, and unless there's ruins under there (like I hope), that's probably the most likely thing. Otherwise yeah, why point it out? :x

P0kelegend April 13th, 2012 7:44 PM

It looks too see-through to be frozen over IMO. I don't know, maybe some parts will be frozen but definitely not all of that. You can really see through almost all of it except the very thick parts at the top.

Legendary Silke April 14th, 2012 5:48 AM

I don't think it's actually frozen, too. I think it's actually just part of the map image intended to obscure parts of the map. Perhaps for post-game?

Jellicent♀ April 14th, 2012 5:57 AM

A frozen region would be total boss mode. I like the idea that someone suggested that the new main character's hometown is in danger of freezing and you leave to figure out a way to stop it. OOH, and the "evil team" is there to pretend like it's trying to do the same thing, when in reality they're the cause of it! I'm thinking you beat Kyurem and then the ice melts. Especially since the Pokemon League looks frozen over, too.

iTeruri April 14th, 2012 12:40 PM

The ice is just to cover up. It doesn't fit with the rest of the map. It doesn't follow the land. It's just there, as a layer over the map. If the ice was actually there in-game, they would've drawn the ice on the map.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 14th, 2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by P0kelegend (Post 7130567)
It looks too see-through to be frozen over IMO. I don't know, maybe some parts will be frozen but definitely not all of that. You can really see through almost all of it except the very thick parts at the top.

I mentioned this before, maybe the ice is simply a barrier over the land created by Kyurem, creating it's territorial boundary around the region. Also glaciers in cartoons and game are sometimes way more transparent than it is in reality.


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