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I agree. I think Trubbish will be available early on, however.
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However, contradictory to my own thoughts, I'm sure it will still just be Archen and Tirtouga, like in Black and White. |
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Forever, that's an awesome idea! If they do that, they should put some Ratatta in the alley, too...because, after all, this IS based on New York and what is New York without our little furry disease-carrying friends?
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Hey, now. Don't forget about the Raticate, Koffing, and Weezing. At night the alleys could be filled with Gastly and stray Poochyena with other assorted dark and ghost types.
If they aren't in the alley ways then couldn't they be found in the sewers? (Well, once the sewers are made...) Actually now that I think about it, I could find Magikarp, Sandile, and Pidove in the sewers... (see what I did there?) I just want Ralts, Trubbish, and Poochyena on Route 1 or early on in the game. Then i'll just improvise my team from there. Honestly, for nostalgia I also want to see Starly and Pidgey on the same route. That'll be fun. |
The only speculation i have on the pokemon of BW2 is that the original unova pokemon will most likely have their DW abilities just saying y wouldnt they? After all there not gonna release 550 pokemon through the dreamworld that would be redundant
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I only just found out about Pokemon black 2 and white 2, so can you catch the older pokemon from the very start and have there been any new pokemon added
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Thanks Forever, I would expect the release date would be around march next year?
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Adding onto what I said in my previous post, I'd like for Pokemon to play more of a role everywhere. Like for example, have wild Magnemite in an area just outside of Nimbasa (near extended Ferris Wheel location) since it uses electricity. |
I was just now viewing some of the trailer and prerelease pictures and it looks like when the player meets Acuroma in Castelia City, it looks like they're standing in front of a bunch of Crustle, not rocks. So maybe that's a hint that Castelia has some Pokemon in it?
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Actually, back to the topic of Pokemon running around Castelia at night...
I would suggest Meowth. Lots of RL stray cats prowl city streets and Meowth's Pokedex even states that it comes out at night in cities to look for dropped change. Plus it would be the perfect reasoning to include one of my favorite Pokemon in the Pokedex xD |
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Crustle would be awesome to find there! Well Castelia that is, might just be a random rock tbh :( Meowth would make sense but I'd rather see pollution Pokemon, not stray cats.
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They should make it where you can catch all of them in one game. No nintento events and no trade evos. thats what needs to happen.
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I am so happy that Azurill can be caught early, Azumarill is one of my favorite pokemon, it'd be nice to see some Gen 1's like Growlithe lol Also bringing back some older birds would be nice, not too big on Pidove and Co.
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Growlithe is in the game! So happy.
And Riolu and Eevee! Now just add in Skarmory and Squirtle and I'll be in eternal bliss. <3 Really not expecting the latter but I'm feeling quite dandy with the returning Pokémon we have now. On the topic of Pokémon found in the sewers, I'm sort of expecting Shuckle to make an appearance. I don't know why. Anyway, someone mentioned Wingull and Taillow, those two would be awesome early on, and it'd be hard to pick between them once again, haha. Hope they both appear, I think only Wingull is confirmed. |
On the topic of sewer Pokemon, I think Gulpin and Swalot would be found there too, given their poisonous tendencies to dissolve metals with their stomach acids.
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I'd also like to see Lunatone & Solrock appear somewhere in-game, it would be interesting and I'd definitely have one of them in my team. They would be an cool duo to include in B2W2.
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I personally don't see us getting too many Ghost type Pokemon being put into the Unova region. Ghost types are representative to the spirits that rest in the area they live in, and usually seem right at home wherever they are placed. To move them would be as if their last home went through an exorcism and now they just wandered to the Unova region. It'd be cool to have some more, but I don't see it happening too much. |
It could also be like a varied Pokemon, each week stuff like Shellder and Mantine, normally exclusive to that area shows up on the beach, kinda like the "swarms", but this being a one-time only thing and it's randomly generated for each game.
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Right, the weekly Pokémon! I would love to see a return of this for version exclusives like you mentioned. Or maybe make the selection of Pokémon really special, not necessarily version exclusive, ones that are usually hard to obtain like Munchlax or Feebas but they would still have a low chance of appearing among the others that can appear.
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What I'm reminded of for beach Pokémon though, would be Starmie! That critter has the Camouflage move which can be used like a sort of Kecleon mechanic, which I would like to see a return in Gen V. And honestly, I always thought Stunfisk appeared in beaches instead of marshes like in B/W, haha. |
Are we getting more gameplay/information on Smash tonight? I haven't really been watching them lately but I hope we do, I want to find out more of the Pokémon that are in the Pokédex considering so far they're all great.
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I haven't seen much in the new Pokedex to excite me, tbh. Right now, just Jolteon, Metagross, and Weezing. I'd welcome Starmie as a beach-area Pokemon, but I doubt I'd use it in-game since Samurott is already my designated starter.
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Me too! I really hope that Poocheyena is available early on. I want one! I got Black so I wasnt able to get one in BW. Also, if they will actually do the sewer/alley thing then it should be this specific alley with grass or something in it. Maybe that one that the guy jumps out at you and gives you Roar in?(That scared the crap out of me lol) |
It looks like theres gonna be a lot more ice pokemon cause part of the region is frozen on june 23rd we shall know more i geuss
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I wonder if there will be version exclusives for these Pokémon, i.e Magby in White 2, Elekid in Black 2, Growlithe in Black 2, Ponyta in White 2 etc. That would be fun!
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I don't know if anyone's mentioned Meditite yet. I've never used one in game before, and pure power sounds like it would be awesome.
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...despite the fact that I prefer Black 2 already and Growlithe. ;; |
Ah well, no reveal this week but we'll hopefully get something next week, it's something to look forward to I guess! Considering there is 300 Pokémon in the Pokédex there's so many I want to make it to the Pokédex.
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From the trailer, we can possibly see the return of more non-legendary OWS in-game like with the Minncino in the trailer. That would be fun! I would enjoy being able to catch fish that wash up on the beach, and possibly if there are any events where you can catch a psuedo legend, then that'd be great. |
Somehow Noctowl came to my mind last night, and to be honest I'd expect to see it around in the night like usual. Of course Hoothoot too.
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I wouldnt mind seeing Hoothoot and Noctowl, though I probably wont use it for my team. I wish for Horsea though because I want to use Kingdra for one of my teams.
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If Noctowl is in there, I'm betting in the second route after the starting town, which'd make sense considering it's a general bird!
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Perhaps all the general bird and general rodents will appear in the first two routes, 0dd gens in first and evens in second route away from home.
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Yeah they've gotta be selective. They could skip Sinnoh's cause they're newest, and skip Kanto's cause they're oldest, and just throw in Unova, Hoenn andddd Johto's!
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I hope they don't skip Sinnoh's birds. I love Staravia. I mean if they could just randomly leave out Starly and Staraptor I wouldn't even care, I want Staravia. u_u;
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I'd like for Staraptor to be in the Pokédex, I found it very useful in Diamond and it's a great flying type IMO. I'd also like to see Hoppip near the beginning, that would cover a decent grass type and it seems plausible.
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I want Rotom too. :3 You could get it with an in-game trade in B/W, so if everything normally found in eastern Unova logic applies, then we should get Rotom in B2/W2. I think.
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I can see Zubat and Geodude being in the games with no doubt. It's like they are destined to annoy us.
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I'd actually prefer Zubats to Woobat, actually. Sure, Zubat's an annoying Pokemon, but Crobat is so much more awesome than Swoobat.
Still waiting on what cat Pokemon are going to be introduced. I'm rooting for Persian, but really anything but Delcatty would do... that one was a pain in the neck to use back in R/S/E |
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I could definitely see Tentacool being thrown back in there. Good Lord, if they do, I hope we don't have to Surf anywhere like we didn't have to in Black and White. Though Geodude and Machop I wouldn't mind being back. I'm pulling for Skitty to be included, too. |
The only chance of Skitty being in is if it's in the early routes and I really doubt that considering what we've seen so far.
Also what if higher level Pokemon like uh Metagross @ 50 and something appear around Nuvema due to it being opposite? |
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If Hoppip appeared it'd be in the same route as Azurill. Don't know where they'd fit Geodude in early on though, and omg, if Scyther is in the games, that'd be awesome CAUSE Scizor. Even if that isn't true I really want Scizor OKAY there better be a Scyther found early on. >__>
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I hope they bring back the Safari Zone to be honest; after two years they should have one built. Then Scyther could be found there. |
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It'd only make sense to have a Safari Zone w/ Scyther. u_u Or a later route. |
Well unless the evolution method for Scyther was made a bit easier :3 Plus in uh, previous games it was found fairly early on so it wouldn't be that strange if it appeared in the first few routes.
Maybe it'd fit in a safari zone as you said, but that seems more like appropriate for Ryhorn and so on, actual Pokemon that look like they belong in a safari. XD; |
Scyther was in the Safari Zone back in FireRed.
Though speaking of the Safari Zone! If these games have it, I'd expect Kangaskhan, Spinarak/Ariados, Ledyba, Wurmple (and its evolutions), a couple of Unova Pokémon, and several others. I would hope that we get the Pokémon found in the Safari Zone rarely elsewhere, to make them special. |
Scyther appearing early is pretty plausible, in HGSS you could catch one in the Safari Zone and that's technically before the 3rd gym. I really hope that's the case because I'm using one now in SS so I'd love to use Scyther on one & Scizor on the other.
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Since Riolu and Lucario are in B2/W2, at what point in the game does anyone here think Riolu can be found? I'm guessing that it can be found after the 3rd-4th badges.
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Anyhow, I'm already planning my team! I'm gonna go with Snivy and Riolu! I always only train 5 Pokes, because I need room for a slave. ANd highly judging from the "Cutscenes", T-Tar is gonna be in here! |
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Maybe we'd get "endangered" Unova Pokemon @ safari zone!
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Geodude, not so good. Them things have Sturdy AND learn self-destructing moves at fairly early levels, so... yeah... AND WHERE ARE MY CAT POKEMON? IIRC, not one has been announced so far! |
I'm loving the new Pokemon so far, Geodude is a disappointment cos that new improved Sturdy makes us want to run from it.
I'm glad Togepi is appearing cos Togekiss is so beautiful. Croagunk and Starly are looking to be awesome too, I've already decided on Starly for my Flying-type. |
Well this changes my team totally, I'm not sure if these are confirmed but if they are I'll definitely be adding Croagunk & Starly to my team.
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Eh, I've already decided that Archeops will return as my Flying type (assuming it's available). Flygon can also learn Fly, at least it could in 4th gen.
And I'd actually prefer to see the bee Pokemon (Beedrill/Vespiquen) to the butterfly Pokemon myself. This despite the fact that I'm terrified of bees IRL. |
The bees will proably be excusive to one and the butterflies to the other, or they might mix match them to the different versions with Butterfree in one and Beautifly in the other.
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Ooh I like the matching idea. Butterfree @ White 2, Beautifly @ Black 2, Vesipiquen @ Black 2, Beedrill @ White 2.
OR, Butterflies in White 2, bees in Black 2. Whichever works. Unova lacks pretty butterfliess. :( |
Yeah...this gen was unique as in that it skipped the butterflies and Bees, going for Bag worm or whatever the Leaveny line is and Centipede.
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There are 300 Pokemon in the Pokedex. Does that mean all 5th generation Pokemon will be included?
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Oh and 300-153=147, so about 36.75 from each generation |
Gen 3 has 40+ in the game if we go by what Black and White had. We are close to half of Hoenn Pokemon appearing if they do use the Pokemon that were in Black and White.
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BW2 sure has a big Pokedex. You know... Game Freak could just troll us and say that they're putting every single Pokemon in the game. OVERKILL TIME. Ha, I could spend a hour just on that 1st route. But then again if we stick to what they officially said-around "300" Pokemon- that is gonna be a lot, still, on each and every route/place/location. Not to mention the random roaming legendaries.
Che, I wonder how Game Freak devised which Pokemon got in or didn't make it... was it some random poll or lottery? Or bribes. I could see that... "100,000 Yen (in U.S. dollars-$1,255.18, that's right, big money) for Gyarados and Magikarp!" "No, Magikarp sucks and Gyarados has double weaknesses!" "Oh yeah-" bla, bla, bla, etc. Ugh. What a pain to wait for officials to say which previous generation Pokemon got in. Just release them all on one special day. A month til the release of the game maybe? |
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Wait can't metagross already be caught in black and white in the giant chasm?
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Oh ok. sorry I misunderstood. Yeah, I thinnk getting a metagross from the wild before the elite 4 would be too overpowered. I hope it stays after you beat the game.
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Adding on to ixin and KingCyndaquil, since Metagross was a post-game Pokemon what about the rest of the post-game ones? I think the ones that made the cut and were in post-game got moved to the main game. But... this brings the question... Who all (ha, ha, the awkward pronoun "who all", ha, ha) could be the new post-game Pokemon? I mean there are 300+ Pokemon to choose from, not to mention their evolutionary lines...
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Nah there could be post-game Pokemon but they'll be the opposites of what we don't have - do with Seviper and Koffing we miss out on Arbok and Muk which could be post-game.
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Weeell, whatever. I agree w/Requility's theory, I mean come on, no Post-game Pokemon? Seems... odd. Then we would have no fun in the post-game but that's another topic. It's more plausible that we will get the ones we don't have, afterwards. I just hope they're the uber, overpowered ones like Metagross. Not some weak "_______" (I don't want to start a fight... so mentally fill in the blank yourselves). It's like going home after a long time and you battle the annoying Patrats, Starlys, and Pidgeys with your Lv. 100 Emboar.
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Like, legit, this entirely. It's Pokemon. Why would they not add more Pokemon into a Pokemon game? Heck, I could even see them going so far as tossing in some roaming legendary Pokemon in there just for the heck of it while giving them a story line, too. They have to include their Pokemon somehow. |
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Yeah I see that point @ bottom, though. I guess they could always dramatically increase the levels of what you find in Unova to annoy us more. XD; |
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I can't help but wonder if any of the past generations legendaries will be included in this dex, the only dex to have legends from another is Johto but that one has all the pokemon at the time of it's introduction (plus the gen IV evolutions). Though considering how these games seem to be Johtoesk it's possible, perhaps the Sinnoh triad will be included (revealing what Ghetsis was planning maybe?). Then again that would kind of be overkill since BW already has 13 legends of it's own...
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Is anyone else shocked they haven't revealed Pikachu yet? Pikachu is their main Pokemon for everything about them.
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Or maybe they just will try to alienate anime fans by not including Pikachu idk. |
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I could see them replacing Pikachu with Plusle and Minun. I wouldn't mind that, tbh. |
Oh because of the whole opposites thing? Maybe. If not I wouldn't mind seeing a greater importance placed on Emolga in Pikachu's place if it doesn't have a role.
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And I would have thought that when they made Black and White, but Emolga's only importance was that it was in Elesa's team and that you could trade a Boldore for one. Other than that it was pretty absent. If they do bring back Pikachu I hope they give it a little more importance than it has been given. As much as I don't like it, it IS the franchise's mascot You'd expect to see a little more of it. Anyway, I'm really hoping they bring in Magikarp and Gyarados. <3 Maybe not give them as many routes and towns as they have been given since the franchise began, but a little something, maybe like one or two routes. |
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