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Zayphora April 30th, 2012 4:34 PM

I agree. I think Trubbish will be available early on, however.

Xander Olivieri April 30th, 2012 5:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaori (Post 7156260)

TBH I'd like a Fossil Maniac to help us revive the one we receive. 8D /love nerds

Also, DPPt made every fossil obtainable via underground, which makes me wonder if we will be able to receive all of the fossil Pokémon within these games. I wonder how we would get them all too!

You could get all the fossils from the man in Twist Mountain, just one random one per day.

Jellicent♀ April 30th, 2012 6:21 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7156397)
You could get all the fossils from the man in Twist Mountain, just one random one per day.

Post-game, though. I think she meant before the National Dex. Which would be a thousand times better.
However, contradictory to my own thoughts, I'm sure it will still just be Archen and Tirtouga, like in Black and White.

Ho-Oh May 1st, 2012 1:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Toujours (Post 7156339)
I can't really see them pulling in Grimer and Muk, knowing that Trubbish and Garbodor will be in it. :x

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Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 7156322)
Since Koffing and Weezing are confirmed, how about Grimer and Muk? I can kind of see Grimer and Koffing as counterparts to one another, embodying a different kind of pollution.

I don't think that's necessarily true Touj! Since after all, Wingull vs Ducklett, both are somewhat similar and both are going to be in the main Pokedex (unless they take Ducklett out which'd be dumb). It'd be nice to see them running around alleyways of Castelia. Muk/Grimer, that is.

Zayphora May 2nd, 2012 4:25 PM

Forever, that's an awesome idea! If they do that, they should put some Ratatta in the alley, too...because, after all, this IS based on New York and what is New York without our little furry disease-carrying friends?
No offense, New Yorkers.

Kenmoor May 2nd, 2012 5:36 PM

Hey, now. Don't forget about the Raticate, Koffing, and Weezing. At night the alleys could be filled with Gastly and stray Poochyena with other assorted dark and ghost types.
If they aren't in the alley ways then couldn't they be found in the sewers? (Well, once the sewers are made...) Actually now that I think about it, I could find Magikarp, Sandile, and Pidove in the sewers... (see what I did there?)
I just want Ralts, Trubbish, and Poochyena on Route 1 or early on in the game. Then i'll just improvise my team from there. Honestly, for nostalgia I also want to see Starly and Pidgey on the same route. That'll be fun.

Crooked May 2nd, 2012 7:39 PM

The only speculation i have on the pokemon of BW2 is that the original unova pokemon will most likely have their DW abilities just saying y wouldnt they? After all there not gonna release 550 pokemon through the dreamworld that would be redundant

Aaron40 May 3rd, 2012 1:18 AM

I only just found out about Pokemon black 2 and white 2, so can you catch the older pokemon from the very start and have there been any new pokemon added

Ho-Oh May 3rd, 2012 1:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Crooked (Post 7159571)
The only speculation i have on the pokemon of BW2 is that the original unova pokemon will most likely have their DW abilities just saying y wouldnt they? After all there not gonna release 550 pokemon through the dreamworld that would be redundant

I dunno, I hope so but I think we might be waiting a while. /continues to hope

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Originally Posted by Aaron40 (Post 7159786)
I only just found out about Pokemon black 2 and white 2, so can you catch the older pokemon from the very start and have there been any new pokemon added

1. Yup! It's been confirmed that Azurill is on Route 1, and others are on other routes. :3
2. Not as far as we know, except Black Kyurem and White Kyurem but they're not really new Pokemon.

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Originally Posted by Kenmoor (Post 7159400)
Hey, now. Don't forget about the Raticate, Koffing, and Weezing. At night the alleys could be filled with Gastly and stray Poochyena with other assorted dark and ghost types.
If they aren't in the alley ways then couldn't they be found in the sewers? (Well, once the sewers are made...) Actually now that I think about it, I could find Magikarp, Sandile, and Pidove in the sewers... (see what I did there?)
I just want Ralts, Trubbish, and Poochyena on Route 1 or early on in the game. Then i'll just improvise my team from there. Honestly, for nostalgia I also want to see Starly and Pidgey on the same route. That'll be fun.

I approve of Gastly at night! AND omg, yes, I'd love to visit sewers in Castelia to find extra Pokemon. If you can find things like Grimer and Muk there, that'd be awesome to explore--plus pollution two years later! :3

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Originally Posted by Zayphora (Post 7159307)
Forever, that's an awesome idea! If they do that, they should put some Ratatta in the alley, too...because, after all, this IS based on New York and what is New York without our little furry disease-carrying friends?
No offense, New Yorkers.

I guess that'd fit, but it'd all have to be in the same alley way tbh. I wouldn't like to see them running around the whole city. XD;

Aaron40 May 3rd, 2012 1:28 AM

Thanks Forever, I would expect the release date would be around march next year?

Ho-Oh May 3rd, 2012 1:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron40 (Post 7159794)
Thanks Forever, I would expect the release date would be around march next year?

Nope, it's around September/October-ish (around that time of year) for us, and June for Japan. There's a release date discussion thread to discuss more about it. :3

Adding onto what I said in my previous post, I'd like for Pokemon to play more of a role everywhere. Like for example, have wild Magnemite in an area just outside of Nimbasa (near extended Ferris Wheel location) since it uses electricity.

Jellicent♀ May 3rd, 2012 4:12 AM

I was just now viewing some of the trailer and prerelease pictures and it looks like when the player meets Acuroma in Castelia City, it looks like they're standing in front of a bunch of Crustle, not rocks. So maybe that's a hint that Castelia has some Pokemon in it?

blue May 3rd, 2012 5:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7159799)


Nope, it's around September/October-ish (around that time of year) for us, and June for Japan. There's a release date discussion thread to discuss more about it. :3

Adding onto what I said in my previous post, I'd like for Pokemon to play more of a role everywhere. Like for example, have wild Magnemite in an area just outside of Nimbasa (near extended Ferris Wheel location) since it uses electricity.

Like when you exit your house in Nuvema Town in Black & White and all the Pidove/Woobat flutter away, that would be great to see Pokémon playing about in different cities relevant to their typing. Adding to that I hope Taillow is available early on, I love training them.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ May 3rd, 2012 6:43 AM

Actually, back to the topic of Pokemon running around Castelia at night...

I would suggest Meowth. Lots of RL stray cats prowl city streets and Meowth's Pokedex even states that it comes out at night in cities to look for dropped change.

Plus it would be the perfect reasoning to include one of my favorite Pokemon in the Pokedex xD

Zelda May 3rd, 2012 2:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7159941)


Like when you exit your house in Nuvema Town in Black & White and all the Pidove/Woobat flutter away, that would be great to see Pokémon playing about in different cities relevant to their typing. Adding to that I hope Taillow is available early on, I love training them.

YESYESYES, Taillow for sure. I'd love to see it around the early routes (and of course Swellow later on)! If GameFreak includes Taillow, it will instantly be the flying type for my team. :3

Ho-Oh May 3rd, 2012 6:30 PM

Crustle would be awesome to find there! Well Castelia that is, might just be a random rock tbh :( Meowth would make sense but I'd rather see pollution Pokemon, not stray cats.

austinthomas May 3rd, 2012 8:26 PM

They should make it where you can catch all of them in one game. No nintento events and no trade evos. thats what needs to happen.

TheGr8 May 3rd, 2012 8:55 PM

I am so happy that Azurill can be caught early, Azumarill is one of my favorite pokemon, it'd be nice to see some Gen 1's like Growlithe lol Also bringing back some older birds would be nice, not too big on Pidove and Co.

Ho-Oh May 3rd, 2012 9:00 PM

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Originally Posted by austinthomas (Post 7160762)
They should make it where you can catch all of them in one game. No nintento events and no trade evos. thats what needs to happen.

Well sadly there's only 300 we can get anyways according to the Pokedex. :( Still, we can get a lot from those we will have, anything in particular you wanna see?

Cid May 4th, 2012 3:11 AM

Growlithe is in the game! So happy.

And Riolu and Eevee! Now just add in Skarmory and Squirtle and I'll be in eternal bliss. <3 Really not expecting the latter but I'm feeling quite dandy with the returning Pokémon we have now.

On the topic of Pokémon found in the sewers, I'm sort of expecting Shuckle to make an appearance. I don't know why. Anyway, someone mentioned Wingull and Taillow, those two would be awesome early on, and it'd be hard to pick between them once again, haha. Hope they both appear, I think only Wingull is confirmed.

PlatinumDude May 4th, 2012 3:19 AM

On the topic of sewer Pokemon, I think Gulpin and Swalot would be found there too, given their poisonous tendencies to dissolve metals with their stomach acids.

blue May 4th, 2012 3:48 AM

I'd also like to see Lunatone & Solrock appear somewhere in-game, it would be interesting and I'd definitely have one of them in my team. They would be an cool duo to include in B2W2.

Flygon-Gal May 4th, 2012 8:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenmoor (Post 7159400)
Hey, now. Don't forget about the Raticate, Koffing, and Weezing. At night the alleys could be filled with Gastly and stray Poochyena with other assorted dark and ghost types..


Hopefully - I love darks and ghosts (and dragons)

Ho-Oh May 4th, 2012 8:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cid (Post 7161001)
On the topic of Pokémon found in the sewers, I'm sort of expecting Shuckle to make an appearance. I don't know why. Anyway, someone mentioned Wingull and Taillow, those two would be awesome early on, and it'd be hard to pick between them once again, haha. Hope they both appear, I think only Wingull is confirmed.

Shuckle... does not seem like a sewer Pokemon--actually, I'd say if it's in the games, it would be found near Crustle tbh, or maybe just lying around on the beach at Undella!

Jellicent♀ May 4th, 2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7161192)


Shuckle... does not seem like a sewer Pokemon--actually, I'd say if it's in the games, it would be found near Crustle tbh, or maybe just lying around on the beach at Undella!

That'd be so cute! Maybe they could be like a daily/weekly Pokemon like Dirfloon was in Gen 4. Wouldn't make the most exciting, but it'd still be adorable to see one on the beach every day/week.

I personally don't see us getting too many Ghost type Pokemon being put into the Unova region. Ghost types are representative to the spirits that rest in the area they live in, and usually seem right at home wherever they are placed. To move them would be as if their last home went through an exorcism and now they just wandered to the Unova region. It'd be cool to have some more, but I don't see it happening too much.

Ho-Oh May 5th, 2012 1:17 AM

It could also be like a varied Pokemon, each week stuff like Shellder and Mantine, normally exclusive to that area shows up on the beach, kinda like the "swarms", but this being a one-time only thing and it's randomly generated for each game.

Cid May 5th, 2012 2:18 AM

Right, the weekly Pokémon! I would love to see a return of this for version exclusives like you mentioned. Or maybe make the selection of Pokémon really special, not necessarily version exclusive, ones that are usually hard to obtain like Munchlax or Feebas but they would still have a low chance of appearing among the others that can appear.

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7161192)


Shuckle... does not seem like a sewer Pokemon--actually, I'd say if it's in the games, it would be found near Crustle tbh, or maybe just lying around on the beach at Undella!

I don't know why I thought it either. I can't remember any slug-like Pokémon that could lurk around sewers.

What I'm reminded of for beach Pokémon though, would be Starmie! That critter has the Camouflage move which can be used like a sort of Kecleon mechanic, which I would like to see a return in Gen V. And honestly, I always thought Stunfisk appeared in beaches instead of marshes like in B/W, haha.

blue May 5th, 2012 3:48 AM

Are we getting more gameplay/information on Smash tonight? I haven't really been watching them lately but I hope we do, I want to find out more of the Pokémon that are in the Pokédex considering so far they're all great.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ May 5th, 2012 3:58 AM

I haven't seen much in the new Pokedex to excite me, tbh. Right now, just Jolteon, Metagross, and Weezing. I'd welcome Starmie as a beach-area Pokemon, but I doubt I'd use it in-game since Samurott is already my designated starter.

I've seen several in the new Pokedex that I'd rather not see, however.

Zayphora May 5th, 2012 6:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Flygon-Gal (Post 7161189)
Hopefully - I love darks and ghosts (and dragons)


Me too! I really hope that Poocheyena is available early on. I want one! I got Black so I wasnt able to get one in BW.

Also, if they will actually do the sewer/alley thing then it should be this specific alley with grass or something in it. Maybe that one that the guy jumps out at you and gives you Roar in?(That scared the crap out of me lol)

xdom May 5th, 2012 8:20 AM

It looks like theres gonna be a lot more ice pokemon cause part of the region is frozen on june 23rd we shall know more i geuss

blue May 5th, 2012 8:58 AM

I wonder if there will be version exclusives for these Pokémon, i.e Magby in White 2, Elekid in Black 2, Growlithe in Black 2, Ponyta in White 2 etc. That would be fun!

tj4bigred May 5th, 2012 8:33 PM

I don't know if anyone's mentioned Meditite yet. I've never used one in game before, and pure power sounds like it would be awesome.

Ho-Oh May 5th, 2012 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cid (Post 7162143)
What I'm reminded of for beach Pokémon though, would be Starmie! That critter has the Camouflage move which can be used like a sort of Kecleon mechanic, which I would like to see a return in Gen V. And honestly, I always thought Stunfisk appeared in beaches instead of marshes like in B/W, haha.

Starmie can also give stardust when washed up on the beach :)

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7162208)
Are we getting more gameplay/information on Smash tonight? I haven't really been watching them lately but I hope we do, I want to find out more of the Pokémon that are in the Pokédex considering so far they're all great.

Aaand nope. :( Next week maybe!

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7162486)
I wonder if there will be version exclusives for these Pokémon, i.e Magby in White 2, Elekid in Black 2, Growlithe in Black 2, Ponyta in White 2 etc. That would be fun!

Nono, Ponyta seems better fit for Black 2 imo, Growlithe seems like White 2.
...despite the fact that I prefer Black 2 already and Growlithe. ;;

blue May 6th, 2012 5:03 AM

Ah well, no reveal this week but we'll hopefully get something next week, it's something to look forward to I guess! Considering there is 300 Pokémon in the Pokédex there's so many I want to make it to the Pokédex.

Zayphora May 6th, 2012 5:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7163433)

Nono, Ponyta seems better fit for Black 2 imo, Growlithe seems like White 2.
...despite the fact that I prefer Black 2 already and Growlithe. ;;

NOOO!!! I HAVE TO HAVE MY GROWLITHE!!!!

From the trailer, we can possibly see the return of more non-legendary OWS in-game like with the Minncino in the trailer. That would be fun! I would enjoy being able to catch fish that wash up on the beach, and possibly if there are any events where you can catch a psuedo legend, then that'd be great.

Zelda May 6th, 2012 6:29 AM

Somehow Noctowl came to my mind last night, and to be honest I'd expect to see it around in the night like usual. Of course Hoothoot too.

Shiny Celebi May 6th, 2012 8:02 AM

I wouldnt mind seeing Hoothoot and Noctowl, though I probably wont use it for my team. I wish for Horsea though because I want to use Kingdra for one of my teams.

Ho-Oh May 6th, 2012 8:03 AM

If Noctowl is in there, I'm betting in the second route after the starting town, which'd make sense considering it's a general bird!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 6th, 2012 9:34 AM

Perhaps all the general bird and general rodents will appear in the first two routes, 0dd gens in first and evens in second route away from home.

Jellicent♀ May 6th, 2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7164169)
Perhaps all the general bird and general rodents will appear in the first two routes, 0dd gens in first and evens in second route away from home.

That would be waaaay too many Pokemon for the first two routes. I mean, you're talking about up to eleven different Pokemon in the first two routes alone. Especially if they were all in both routes. That'd be ridiculous. Plus, what would be the point in that? They aren't super popular Pokemon to begin with, and really all they need is Lilipup, Patrat, and Azurill as they've shown so far. To put ALL the rodent/common birds would be a serious overkill, there. I could see them add Hoothoot, but really, that would be the most I could see them doing other than what they already have.

Ho-Oh May 6th, 2012 4:18 PM

Yeah they've gotta be selective. They could skip Sinnoh's cause they're newest, and skip Kanto's cause they're oldest, and just throw in Unova, Hoenn andddd Johto's!

vaporeon7 May 8th, 2012 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7164658)
Yeah they've gotta be selective. They could skip Sinnoh's cause they're newest, and skip Kanto's cause they're oldest, and just throw in Unova, Hoenn andddd Johto's!

They might put in fewer Hoenn Pokémon if they're planning on a remake. Also why would they skip Sinnoh? Johto has been more recent than it. Somehow I can see Rotom being in the Pokédex...

Zelda May 8th, 2012 2:24 AM

I hope they don't skip Sinnoh's birds. I love Staravia. I mean if they could just randomly leave out Starly and Staraptor I wouldn't even care, I want Staravia. u_u;

blue May 8th, 2012 3:56 AM

I'd like for Staraptor to be in the Pokédex, I found it very useful in Diamond and it's a great flying type IMO. I'd also like to see Hoppip near the beginning, that would cover a decent grass type and it seems plausible.

Mr Cat Dog May 8th, 2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by vaporeon7 (Post 7166468)
Somehow I can see Rotom being in the Pokédex...

OMG I want a Rotom so much! I never played D/P/Pt so if Rotom is in the new PokeDex that would be so great. In fact, if most of my favourite critters are in the new PokeDex, that would also be perfectly fine with me!

Ho-Oh May 8th, 2012 6:16 PM

I want Rotom too. :3 You could get it with an in-game trade in B/W, so if everything normally found in eastern Unova logic applies, then we should get Rotom in B2/W2. I think.

frosting May 8th, 2012 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Patchisou Yutohru (Post 7128368)
My fingers are crossed that Zubat will not have a place in this game. :'(

No Geodudes or Machops either, that's all I ask! >_<

Zelda May 9th, 2012 1:55 AM

I can see Zubat and Geodude being in the games with no doubt. It's like they are destined to annoy us.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ May 9th, 2012 4:44 AM

I'd actually prefer Zubats to Woobat, actually. Sure, Zubat's an annoying Pokemon, but Crobat is so much more awesome than Swoobat.

Still waiting on what cat Pokemon are going to be introduced. I'm rooting for Persian, but really anything but Delcatty would do... that one was a pain in the neck to use back in R/S/E

Jellicent♀ May 9th, 2012 4:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaori (Post 7167920)
I can see Zubat and Geodude being in the games with no doubt. It's like they are destined to annoy us.

Go away Zubat! D<

I could definitely see Tentacool being thrown back in there. Good Lord, if they do, I hope we don't have to Surf anywhere like we didn't have to in Black and White.
Though Geodude and Machop I wouldn't mind being back. I'm pulling for Skitty to be included, too.

Ho-Oh May 9th, 2012 6:49 AM

The only chance of Skitty being in is if it's in the early routes and I really doubt that considering what we've seen so far.

Also what if higher level Pokemon like uh Metagross @ 50 and something appear around Nuvema due to it being opposite?

blue May 9th, 2012 2:39 PM

Rumor:

These Pokemon will now appear in Unova: Geodude, Scyther, Machop, Hoppip, Tyrogue, Togepi, Corsola, Cacnea, Trapinch, Croagunk, Starly

If this is true then they are certainly choosing them well and that's a great line-up IMO especially Starly.

Ho-Oh May 9th, 2012 11:33 PM

If Hoppip appeared it'd be in the same route as Azurill. Don't know where they'd fit Geodude in early on though, and omg, if Scyther is in the games, that'd be awesome CAUSE Scizor. Even if that isn't true I really want Scizor OKAY there better be a Scyther found early on. >__>

Hikamaru May 9th, 2012 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7168681)
Rumor:

These Pokemon will now appear in Unova: Geodude, Scyther, Machop, Hoppip, Tyrogue, Togepi, Corsola, Cacnea, Trapinch, Croagunk, Starly

If this is true then they are certainly choosing them well and that's a great line-up IMO especially Starly.

I'm loving the new lineup of Pokemon, particularly Starly. I'll definitely be using that as my Flying-type cos Staraptor is so awesome.

Oryx May 9th, 2012 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7169256)
If Hoppip appeared it'd be in the same route as Azurill. Don't know where they'd fit Geodude in early on though, and omg, if Scyther is in the games, that'd be awesome CAUSE Scizor. Even if that isn't true I really want Scizor OKAY there better be a Scyther found early on. >__>

What about that new town-ish area north of Black City/White Forest?

Zelda May 10th, 2012 1:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7169256)
If Hoppip appeared it'd be in the same route as Azurill. Don't know where they'd fit Geodude in early on though, and omg, if Scyther is in the games, that'd be awesome CAUSE Scizor. Even if that isn't true I really want Scizor OKAY there better be a Scyther found early on. >__>

It will be great if Geodude isn't found early on. Less annoying at least, until later on.

I hope they bring back the Safari Zone to be honest; after two years they should have one built. Then Scyther could be found there.

Ho-Oh May 10th, 2012 1:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7169266)
I'm loving the new lineup of Pokemon, particularly Starly. I'll definitely be using that as my Flying-type cos Staraptor is so awesome.

Well keep in mind they aren't confirmed yet. :(

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Originally Posted by Toujours (Post 7169270)
What about that new town-ish area north of Black City/White Forest?

Maybe, but it seems like it's always found early on and late game makes no sense imo.

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Originally Posted by Kaori (Post 7169353)

It will be great if Geodude isn't found early on. Less annoying at least, until later on.

I hope they bring back the Safari Zone to be honest; after two years they should have one built. Then Scyther could be found there.

Nono, Scyther needs to be found in the first or second route on the west since its evolution can be useful against Homika's team. :3

Zelda May 10th, 2012 1:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7169357)
Nono, Scyther needs to be found in the first or second route on the west since its evolution can be useful against Homika's team. :3

I don't think Scyther will be found early on though, because I'm pretty sure the Metal Coat won't be available until way later. Plus you have to trade and you can't really do so until after the first gym (if you're going to trade via Wi-Fi + Pal Pad).

It'd only make sense to have a Safari Zone w/ Scyther. u_u Or a later route.

Ho-Oh May 10th, 2012 2:51 AM

Well unless the evolution method for Scyther was made a bit easier :3 Plus in uh, previous games it was found fairly early on so it wouldn't be that strange if it appeared in the first few routes.

Maybe it'd fit in a safari zone as you said, but that seems more like appropriate for Ryhorn and so on, actual Pokemon that look like they belong in a safari. XD;

Zelda May 10th, 2012 12:07 PM

Scyther was in the Safari Zone back in FireRed.

Though speaking of the Safari Zone! If these games have it, I'd expect Kangaskhan, Spinarak/Ariados, Ledyba, Wurmple (and its evolutions), a couple of Unova Pokémon, and several others. I would hope that we get the Pokémon found in the Safari Zone rarely elsewhere, to make them special.

blue May 10th, 2012 1:32 PM

Scyther appearing early is pretty plausible, in HGSS you could catch one in the Safari Zone and that's technically before the 3rd gym. I really hope that's the case because I'm using one now in SS so I'd love to use Scyther on one & Scizor on the other.

PlatinumDude May 10th, 2012 4:52 PM

Since Riolu and Lucario are in B2/W2, at what point in the game does anyone here think Riolu can be found? I'm guessing that it can be found after the 3rd-4th badges.

Plasmette May 10th, 2012 4:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 7170054)
Since Riolu and Lucario are in B2/W2, at what point in the game does anyone here think Riolu can be found? I'm guessing that it can be found after the 3rd-4th badges.

It would certainly be around a route that is near a Dark type gym, if we get one.


Anyhow, I'm already planning my team! I'm gonna go with Snivy and Riolu! I always only train 5 Pokes, because I need room for a slave. ANd highly judging from the "Cutscenes", T-Tar is gonna be in here!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 10th, 2012 5:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 7170054)
Since Riolu and Lucario are in B2/W2, at what point in the game does anyone here think Riolu can be found? I'm guessing that it can be found after the 3rd-4th badges.

Perhaps Riolu is found before Homika, as it would be helpful against her seeing how Lucario is Steel, the only catch would be to evolve it before then...

Ho-Oh May 10th, 2012 5:51 PM

Maybe we'd get "endangered" Unova Pokemon @ safari zone!

Also I'd say Riolu will be found later since Lucario is kinda a powerful Pokemon according to its roles in other games.

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ May 11th, 2012 3:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7168681)
Rumor:

These Pokemon will now appear in Unova: Geodude, Scyther, Machop, Hoppip, Tyrogue, Togepi, Corsola, Cacnea, Trapinch, Croagunk, Starly

If this is true then they are certainly choosing them well and that's a great line-up IMO especially Starly.

Assuming this is true, Trapinch makes an awesome addition and would cement who my Ground-type will be.

Geodude, not so good. Them things have Sturdy AND learn self-destructing moves at fairly early levels, so... yeah...

AND WHERE ARE MY CAT POKEMON? IIRC, not one has been announced so far!

Hikamaru May 11th, 2012 4:03 AM

I'm loving the new Pokemon so far, Geodude is a disappointment cos that new improved Sturdy makes us want to run from it.

I'm glad Togepi is appearing cos Togekiss is so beautiful.

Croagunk and Starly are looking to be awesome too, I've already decided on Starly for my Flying-type.

blue May 11th, 2012 4:39 AM

Well this changes my team totally, I'm not sure if these are confirmed but if they are I'll definitely be adding Croagunk & Starly to my team.

Ho-Oh May 11th, 2012 7:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Hikari10 (Post 7170524)
I'm loving the new Pokemon so far, Geodude is a disappointment cos that new improved Sturdy makes us want to run from it.

I'm glad Togepi is appearing cos Togekiss is so beautiful.

Croagunk and Starly are looking to be awesome too, I've already decided on Starly for my Flying-type.

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7170558)
Well this changes my team totally, I'm not sure if these are confirmed but if they are I'll definitely be adding Croagunk & Starly to my team.

What about Pidove? :( BUT ANYWAY, if we were to get other flying types, maybe like Beautifly and Butterfree? Anddd Mothim?! Give us all the flying butterflies plz. I think it'd be awesome if they were all consolidated into one Pokedex. XD;

Elite Overlord LeSabre™ May 11th, 2012 8:46 AM

Eh, I've already decided that Archeops will return as my Flying type (assuming it's available). Flygon can also learn Fly, at least it could in 4th gen.

And I'd actually prefer to see the bee Pokemon (Beedrill/Vespiquen) to the butterfly Pokemon myself. This despite the fact that I'm terrified of bees IRL.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 11th, 2012 3:04 PM

The bees will proably be excusive to one and the butterflies to the other, or they might mix match them to the different versions with Butterfree in one and Beautifly in the other.

Ho-Oh May 11th, 2012 5:05 PM

Ooh I like the matching idea. Butterfree @ White 2, Beautifly @ Black 2, Vesipiquen @ Black 2, Beedrill @ White 2.

OR, Butterflies in White 2, bees in Black 2. Whichever works. Unova lacks pretty butterfliess. :(

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 11th, 2012 5:24 PM

Yeah...this gen was unique as in that it skipped the butterflies and Bees, going for Bag worm or whatever the Leaveny line is and Centipede.
I'm hoping to see powerful bugs such as Heracross and Scisor appear.

Ho-Oh May 25th, 2012 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7171285)
Yeah...this gen was unique as in that it skipped the butterflies and Bees, going for Bag worm or whatever the Leaveny line is and Centipede.
I'm hoping to see powerful bugs such as Heracross and Scisor appear.

I feel like we probably won't get Heracross. It seems kinda overpowered for it to appear on its own, and seems like something you'd get through the dream world rather than a strong Pokemon early on. Because really, compare Leavanny and Heracross - there's a difference, lol. :x

Tropical Sunlight May 26th, 2012 12:14 AM

There are 300 Pokemon in the Pokedex. Does that mean all 5th generation Pokemon will be included?

Ho-Oh May 26th, 2012 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tropical Sunlight (Post 7191124)
There are 300 Pokemon in the Pokedex. Does that mean all 5th generation Pokemon will be included?

Should, yeah. If so that'd mean 153 so about 137 (maths?) will be added from past generations. In other words that's like 35 per generation imo.

PokéSwimmer May 26th, 2012 1:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Requility (Post 7191131)


Should, yeah. If so that'd mean 153 so about 137 (maths?) will be added from past generations. In other words that's like 35 per generation imo.

I hope they don't split it evenly like that. I'd like to see them favor gens 1 and 2 over 3 and 4.

Oh and 300-153=147, so about 36.75 from each generation

Xander Olivieri May 26th, 2012 5:08 AM

Gen 3 has 40+ in the game if we go by what Black and White had. We are close to half of Hoenn Pokemon appearing if they do use the Pokemon that were in Black and White.

Kenmoor May 26th, 2012 2:44 PM

BW2 sure has a big Pokedex. You know... Game Freak could just troll us and say that they're putting every single Pokemon in the game. OVERKILL TIME. Ha, I could spend a hour just on that 1st route. But then again if we stick to what they officially said-around "300" Pokemon- that is gonna be a lot, still, on each and every route/place/location. Not to mention the random roaming legendaries.

Che, I wonder how Game Freak devised which Pokemon got in or didn't make it... was it some random poll or lottery? Or bribes. I could see that... "100,000 Yen (in U.S. dollars-$1,255.18, that's right, big money) for Gyarados and Magikarp!" "No, Magikarp sucks and Gyarados has double weaknesses!" "Oh yeah-" bla, bla, bla, etc.

Ugh. What a pain to wait for officials to say which previous generation Pokemon got in. Just release them all on one special day. A month til the release of the game maybe?

Xander Olivieri May 26th, 2012 3:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenmoor (Post 7192000)
BW2 sure has a big Pokedex. You know... Game Freak could just troll us and say that they're putting every single Pokemon in the game. OVERKILL TIME. Ha, I could spend a hour just on that 1st route. But then again if we stick to what they officially said-around "300" Pokemon- that is gonna be a lot, still, on each and every route/place/location. Not to mention the random roaming legendaries.

Che, I wonder how Game Freak devised which Pokemon got in or didn't make it... was it some random poll or lottery? Or bribes. I could see that... "100,000 Yen (in U.S. dollars-$1,255.18, that's right, big money) for Gyarados and Magikarp!" "No, Magikarp sucks and Gyarados has double weaknesses!" "Oh yeah-" bla, bla, bla, etc.

Ugh. What a pain to wait for officials to say which previous generation Pokemon got in. Just release them all on one special day. A month til the release of the game maybe?

We prolly won't know what all the Pokemon are until someone gets an advance copy and hacks it like they did with Black and White.

Kenmoor May 27th, 2012 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7192015)
We prolly won't know what all the Pokemon are until someone gets an advance copy and hacks it like they did with Black and White.

True. Or leaks from some random Game Freak employee. I didn't hear about that BW hacker though... I need to check on this kind of news more often...

Xander Olivieri May 27th, 2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenmoor (Post 7193170)
True. Or leaks from some random Game Freak employee. I didn't hear about that BW hacker though... I need to check on this kind of news more often...

That employee got fired and arrested. As for the hacker, the guys from one of the news sites basically just ripped the images out and started spreading them across the internet, Nintendo then served a removal notice saying that they would sue if the New Pokemon Sprites were not removed until the games were released due to Copy Right infringement.

ixin May 27th, 2012 12:29 PM

Wait can't metagross already be caught in black and white in the giant chasm?

KingCyndaquil May 27th, 2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ixin (Post 7193208)
Wait can't metagross already be caught in black and white in the giant chasm?

yeah but thats after the story is said and done, we're talking about before the end of the game.

ixin May 27th, 2012 3:50 PM

Oh ok. sorry I misunderstood. Yeah, I thinnk getting a metagross from the wild before the elite 4 would be too overpowered. I hope it stays after you beat the game.

Xander Olivieri May 27th, 2012 3:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ixin (Post 7193423)
Oh ok. sorry I misunderstood. Yeah, I thinnk getting a metagross from the wild before the elite 4 would be too overpowered. I hope it stays after you beat the game.

Its already confirmed in the new Pokedex so its going to be before the Elite Four since they started the new Pokedex mechanic back in Gen 4.

Kenmoor May 27th, 2012 4:03 PM

Adding on to ixin and KingCyndaquil, since Metagross was a post-game Pokemon what about the rest of the post-game ones? I think the ones that made the cut and were in post-game got moved to the main game. But... this brings the question... Who all (ha, ha, the awkward pronoun "who all", ha, ha) could be the new post-game Pokemon? I mean there are 300+ Pokemon to choose from, not to mention their evolutionary lines...

Xander Olivieri May 27th, 2012 4:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenmoor (Post 7193443)
Adding on to ixin and KingCyndaquil, since Metagross was a post-game Pokemon what about the rest of the post-game ones? I think the ones that made the cut and were in post-game got moved to the main game. But... this brings the question... Who all (ha, ha, the awkward pronoun "who all", ha, ha) could be the new post-game Pokemon? I mean there are 300+ Pokemon to choose from, not to mention their evolutionary lines...

There probably won't be any Post Game Pokemon, and if there are, then maybe none that were in Black and White as it seems that all the Pokemon from Black and White's Post Game are in B2W2.

Ho-Oh May 27th, 2012 7:11 PM

Nah there could be post-game Pokemon but they'll be the opposites of what we don't have - do with Seviper and Koffing we miss out on Arbok and Muk which could be post-game.

Kenmoor May 28th, 2012 12:18 PM

Weeell, whatever. I agree w/Requility's theory, I mean come on, no Post-game Pokemon? Seems... odd. Then we would have no fun in the post-game but that's another topic. It's more plausible that we will get the ones we don't have, afterwards. I just hope they're the uber, overpowered ones like Metagross. Not some weak "_______" (I don't want to start a fight... so mentally fill in the blank yourselves). It's like going home after a long time and you battle the annoying Patrats, Starlys, and Pidgeys with your Lv. 100 Emboar.
I just hope that we get some new Pokemon in the post-game.

Jellicent♀ May 28th, 2012 6:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 7195017)
It's Pokémon. They'll find any excuse to throw as many Pokémon into the game as they can. There's little value in whether putting them in or not is balanced, because the values you might hold towards Pokémon will generally differ.

Throwing Heracross in somewhere in the post game? Who cares - you could trade it in anyway. :P

I hate being that guy but: ^This.
Like, legit, this entirely. It's Pokemon. Why would they not add more Pokemon into a Pokemon game? Heck, I could even see them going so far as tossing in some roaming legendary Pokemon in there just for the heck of it while giving them a story line, too. They have to include their Pokemon somehow.

Ho-Oh May 28th, 2012 8:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenmoor (Post 7194550)
Weeell, whatever. I agree w/Requility's theory, I mean come on, no Post-game Pokemon? Seems... odd. Then we would have no fun in the post-game but that's another topic. It's more plausible that we will get the ones we don't have, afterwards. I just hope they're the uber, overpowered ones like Metagross. Not some weak "_______" (I don't want to start a fight... so mentally fill in the blank yourselves). It's like going home after a long time and you battle the annoying Patrats, Starlys, and Pidgeys with your Lv. 100 Emboar.
I just hope that we get some new Pokemon in the post-game.

But Metagross is already in the Pokedex! :( ...and also isn't an uber. :x

Yeah I see that point @ bottom, though. I guess they could always dramatically increase the levels of what you find in Unova to annoy us more. XD;

Kenshin5 May 29th, 2012 2:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenmoor (Post 7192000)
BW2 sure has a big Pokedex. You know... Game Freak could just troll us and say that they're putting every single Pokemon in the game. OVERKILL TIME. Ha, I could spend a hour just on that 1st route. But then again if we stick to what they officially said-around "300" Pokemon- that is gonna be a lot, still, on each and every route/place/location. Not to mention the random roaming legendaries.

Che, I wonder how Game Freak devised which Pokemon got in or didn't make it... was it some random poll or lottery? Or bribes. I could see that... "100,000 Yen (in U.S. dollars-$1,255.18, that's right, big money) for Gyarados and Magikarp!" "No, Magikarp sucks and Gyarados has double weaknesses!" "Oh yeah-" bla, bla, bla, etc.

Ugh. What a pain to wait for officials to say which previous generation Pokemon got in. Just release them all on one special day. A month til the release of the game maybe?

Well they do hold popularity contest polls over in Japan, kind of like the ones we have to dream what pokemon we wanted for Dream World and so on. So they can take the info they got from voting and translate that to what they think is the most popular or wanted among the fans then include some of them if not all high ranked ones in the pre-national dex.

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Originally Posted by Requility (Post 7195398)


But Metagross is already in the Pokedex! :( ...and also isn't an uber. :x

Yeah I see that point @ bottom, though. I guess they could always dramatically increase the levels of what you find in Unova to annoy us more. XD;

Maybe the user meant pseudo legendary instead of the competitive term "uber". On top of that Metagross also appeared in the trailer so for sure in the dex.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 29th, 2012 4:54 PM

I can't help but wonder if any of the past generations legendaries will be included in this dex, the only dex to have legends from another is Johto but that one has all the pokemon at the time of it's introduction (plus the gen IV evolutions). Though considering how these games seem to be Johtoesk it's possible, perhaps the Sinnoh triad will be included (revealing what Ghetsis was planning maybe?). Then again that would kind of be overkill since BW already has 13 legends of it's own...

PaxAmericana May 30th, 2012 6:36 AM

Is anyone else shocked they haven't revealed Pikachu yet? Pikachu is their main Pokemon for everything about them.

Ho-Oh May 30th, 2012 6:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Reshiram Man (Post 7197248)
Is anyone else shocked they haven't revealed Pikachu yet? Pikachu is their main Pokemon for everything about them.

Well it is kinda surprising but I feel like they're waiting just til the games come out since it's "expected" and leave us thinking "oh no NO MOAR PIKACHU" when really, no, chances are it'll appear.

Or maybe they just will try to alienate anime fans by not including Pikachu idk.

Jellicent♀ May 30th, 2012 6:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Requility (Post 7197256)

Well it is kinda surprising but I feel like they're waiting just til the games come out since it's "expected" and leave us thinking "oh no NO MOAR PIKACHU" when really, no, chances are it'll appear.

Or maybe they just will try to alienate anime fans by not including Pikachu idk.

I sure as peaches hope they don't include that little gremlin of a Pokemon. Again, like you said, they more than likely will, but it'd be nice to have another game that doesn't include Pikachu before you defeat the Elite Four or w/e we're supposed to do.

I could see them replacing Pikachu with Plusle and Minun. I wouldn't mind that, tbh.

Ho-Oh May 30th, 2012 7:14 AM

Oh because of the whole opposites thing? Maybe. If not I wouldn't mind seeing a greater importance placed on Emolga in Pikachu's place if it doesn't have a role.

Jellicent♀ May 30th, 2012 7:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Requility (Post 7197282)
Oh because of the whole opposites thing? Maybe. If not I wouldn't mind seeing a greater importance placed on Emolga in Pikachu's place if it doesn't have a role.

Oui.
And I would have thought that when they made Black and White, but Emolga's only importance was that it was in Elesa's team and that you could trade a Boldore for one. Other than that it was pretty absent. If they do bring back Pikachu I hope they give it a little more importance than it has been given. As much as I don't like it, it IS the franchise's mascot You'd expect to see a little more of it.

Anyway, I'm really hoping they bring in Magikarp and Gyarados. <3
Maybe not give them as many routes and towns as they have been given since the franchise began, but a little something, maybe like one or two routes.


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