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With them bringing back Magby-Magmar-Magmortar, I get the feeling they will bring back Elekid-Electabuzz-Electivire as well, and so my question is: Does anyone else feel the same way?
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But yeah! They've appeared wild in every game, let them have a shot in this one, even if it is on just one route! Quote:
But it'd be nice if they were placed in at least one little route where you can catch them off of a rod or something. Maybe the little surfing spots or something. |
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That would be beautiful! D8 Gyarados AND Shizui (dat tan) in one sitting? You ma'am, are a genius. I'm hoping they add a lot more Water-type Pokemon into the games, as well. I'd love to see Goldeen and Seaking make a return. <3 There are plenty of little ponds for them to live in, too! Lotad and its family would be pretty epic to have added to the games, as well. No Tentacool. Leave that little guy out. :c |
Since we're talking about whether or not Magikarp and Gyarados would be in the game, how about Feebas and Milotic? All 4 Pokemon were together in the Hoenn and Sinnoh dexes, plus they're counterparts to one another (Magikarp to Feebas and Gyarados to Milotic).
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I really don't see them making a return. Given that they were the rarest in Hoenn and that we think R/S remakes are soon, imo I think they'll save them for the remakes rather than give them an appearance in B2W2.
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Idk, I could see them making a return. Maybe have much less importance than a possible Magikarp/Gyarados return, but still be there. They may very well be in the same area with the same appearance rate, Magikarp and Feebas having 40%, Milotic and Gyarados having 10% or w/e. Either way, I don't see them really taking them out just because of the possibility of an R/S remake.
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So far, we have...
Riolu Lucario Psyduck Golduck Lapras Belbum Metang Metagross Larvitar Pupitar Tyranitar Sneasel Weavile Growlithe Arcanine Mareep Flaafy Ampharos Eevee Vaporeon Jolteon Flareon Espeon Umbreon Leafeon Glaceon Grimer Muk Koffing Weezing Absol Wingull Pelipper Drifloon Drifblim Sunkern Sunflora Zangoose Seviper Buneary Lopunny Magnemite Magneton Magnezone Magby Magmar Magmortar Azurill Marill Azumarill Mantyke Mantine Zubat Golbat Crobat ...which brings us to... only 55/150 of the old Pokemon known to us so far. That's not many! But, if we add all the Eastern Unova ones, all the Swarms, and all the ones found by fishing (all from BW), we get WAY OVER 150. Thus, I think it's safe to say that the 150 old Pokemon that are in the Unova Dex are just the ones that are found before completing the main storyline, while others will show up after beating the main game. |
I WANT my Milotics!! I got one postgame at rt 1 and it's awesome, but it took foreeeeever to catch! Sadly, they prob. won't be included...
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I wonder if the will pull an Emerald on us and give us one of the Sinnoh starters after we beat the game.
Remember, in Emerald, they gave one of the Johto starters to us. Even though B2W2 is a sequel, it could happen. |
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------------------------------ I really wish they'd at least release some new Pokedexes news sometime soon before the release. I really want these two lines to return Bagon-Shelgon-Salamence Dratini-Dragonair-Dragonite They are overused, but they are amazing nonetheless. |
I always found Salamence really boring. I mean, he's like...the most basic dragon-looking thing you can have. :( Idk not one I would ever use, haha.
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I can see Taillow & Hoothoot being available early on as the bird Pokémon, I can see them fitting in quite nicely.
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Starly could fit in okay just as well as Tailow and Hoothoot for the early on bird. |
Well it'll be nice if we could get the Sinnoh starters to cut off from the old DS games much like gen IV did with gen III with HgSs.
I see two of the regional birds being in one game and the other two in the other. Pigey and Hoothoot in Black 2 with Swallow and Starly in White 2 or vise versa/ another combo. |
I honestly can't see any of the regional birds returning to be THIS region's bird, especially since Unova already has one. Yeah they're bringing back a lot of Pokemon, but something with that type of status, I just can't see coming in until post-game times.
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I also hope we don't have the same starters. I think ( dont shoot me! ) that the fire/water/grass starter tradition is getting old. We could see something like fight/dark/psychic or electric/flying/ground....you know what? That sounds lame. Keep the starters. |
Fight/Dark/Psy would never go into play as there is an Immunity, and same with Electric/Flying/Ground.
I say Pikachu will be in it, because its the one that appears everywhere. I also am going to call out Abra, mostly because I really want it xD |
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But yeah, the starters have been confirmed as Tepig, Snivy, and Oshawott. Why people find this surprising is still...confusing to me, really. xD I still pray that Pikachu isn't in this game. Like, no. ;; Skitty would be cute to have in this game, too. <3 |
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As for Psychic/Dark/Fighting, they'll never do it unless they do it as subtyped because that trio isn't balanced. Fire/Water/Grass is one of the basic balanced Elemental Trio's not to mention that if they diverge from this, Blast Burn, Frenzy Plant, and Hydro Cannon wouldn't be learnable to the new starter set, neither would the three Pledge moves. |
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I mean yeah I agree it should be in there as a representation of its mascot status, but I just don't like it. DX Plus, I honestly think they should have Clefairy and its family early on, too. It WAS going to be the mascot of Pokemon when they first created Pokemon, and I think it would fit well in Celestial Tower pretty well, considering it is the place where all Elgyem, and alien Pokemon, lives. |
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet but Buneary and Emolga have been confirmed to appear/ reappear.
Most of the Pokemon I've noticed have been ones that show up in the anime often...could they be giving us the fan favorites? |
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I know, but it's nice to have some confirmation on that theory.
So of the 147 how many have been announced, I haven't kept count lol. |
I saw the second B2/W2 trailer and I saw Dragonite towards the end. I was totally surprised. I wonder if it'll make the final cut.
If anyone doesn't believe me, check out Serebii's latest B2/W2 update. |
From the trailer and by the looks of things it seems Minccino will also be in the Pokédex.
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The giant Pikachu and Pichu statues make it seem like they will in fact have the mascot in there...
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There's a giant Pichu statue now? Oh poor Raichu :(
I do think the mascot will show up. Who knows maybe we'll get a Pichu egg as a gift. |
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I still don't want them. ;; |
I dont want to see Pikachu either >.< oh well, I dont have to catch one. Interesting to see so many psudo legends in this game.
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There will likely be some Pikachu; given the fact that it's the face of Pokémon.
Garchomp would be amazing. Not my favorite of the pseudo dragons, but different a great Pokémon. |
^ xD that's what I said earlier. Yeah Salamence would be cool to see :3. oh and Garchomp...they were the only two pseudo's not available post game BW...
One could make a whole team of Pseudo's to take on Plasma and the E4... |
I read a Bulbanews article regarding the recent Pokemon Smash episode.
Buneary and Lapras have been confirmed in the new Unova Pokedex, so I guess that means Lopunny will appear as well. |
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Buneary also belonged to a main character in the anime (Dawn). What they are trying to do with the new Pokedex is include Pokemon popular with fans, such as Lucario and Eevee. Going by this meaning I could possibly see the Pikachu line getting included given that Pikachu appears in most regional Pokedexes not to mention it being the franchise's mascot. With this Pokedex, they are sort of learning from what the fans want. They are still trying to target the usual kids audience but also trying to appeal to the older fans too. With 300 Pokemon included in this Dex, it's something most fans really wanted - a massive diversity in available Pokemon. Do you think I have a point? |
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And really I'd have to agree to a point. But Buneary wasn't the selling point of the fourth gen, it was Arceus. Every ten year old wants one. SO HOPEFULLY, IT WON'T SHOW UP IN THIS GAME, EITHER. But it even seems like they're somewhat bringing in favorites of their own, which is something I would do if I were them. xD As long as they bring in Budew or Roselia as a wild Pokemon, I'll be perfectly fine with it. c: |
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Is It Just Me?
Take a look at some of the foreign Pokemon to be in Unova in B2W2.
There are several Pokemon that haven't been paid much attention since their introduction (Like Mareep, Sunkern and Wingull) Does this mean that Pokemon that aren't very popular or haven't appeared in a regional dex in a while will re-appear? Like... Caterpie? :O |
Not necessarily, some are more popular than others for many different reasons, mainly by appearance or stats but I doubt that's the case. It's probably more of a coincidence but they just wanted to mix it up by adding multi regional Pokémon and they happened to fall into that category.
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Not exactly. remember, we also have some well-sought Pokemon like Eevee and Riolu, deemed rare throughout the fandom. We also have Beldum and Larvitar who we all know to evolve to some pseudo-legendaries. I think they just like to put in some diversity in Unova.
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It was even a popular member of all my 4th Gen main teams, so if they include it I'd definitely consider using it. |
I hope they have either a Gible or a Bagon early-mid game. Ralts and Starly (Close Combat FTW) would be nice, too.
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They might pull off a surprise location for catching the little Dragon-types, though. I mean, wasn't Azurill and Riolu surprising in terms of their locations? Who would have thought that an early Route's tall grass would give out Pokémon like them that quickly?
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Riolu being early is a little surprising, however. but I guess that's just so you can build its happiness up, which you could just do by walking around for 45 minutes, give or take. Even Milstraton Cave was relatively early, if you think about it. I mean, in these games you don't need a badge to use an HM, so if you were traded a Pokemon that knew Surf, you could just as easily go right to it before you even entered Chargestone Cave for the first time and catch yourself an Axew. Plus, in Gold and Silver you can get a Dratini right there in Goldenrod, so I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Dratini and the like early on, too. |
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What else will be gifted or traded to us? (Did I remember right that Dratini was a gift?) I mean Eevee can be caught in the wild now (right? my memory is a bit fuzzy) so characters like Bill can't give us that. In HG/SS Claire's grandfather gave us a Dratini with Extremespeed (there we go!) Any hints on other possible gifted Pokemon with special/unique moves or move sets? |
^ Perhaps we get an event Togepi like in the Johto games and Pt (not sure if DP had an event Togepi too...). It could have an egg move like extrasensory.
As for Pseudo's I can see them putting them in a hard to reach location/secluded location like they did with Bagon deep in meteor falls, Gible in that cave under the bycycle road. |
True. Plus I want more opportunities (in-game too) to get Pokemon w/egg moves. I don't raise up eggs. NEVER. Unless the Pokemon inside gets you something. Sort of Example: Prof. Elm and the Togepi.
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I don't beleive there were any gift Pokemon in BW usually there's at least one gift Pokemon whether it's hatched or not...
Perhaps we get a castform egg with moves like Hydro pump (I'm not even sure if it can learn this), Fire blast, and Blizzard ^_^ (oh I wish) |
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THEY HAVE SKITTY IN WHITE 2, DATZ WHAT'S UP.
Now I'm even more stoked, you just don't even know. It's a shame I can't get both Buneary AND Skitty in one game, though. :c |
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Well they it was in Platinum (though to be honest it was given an evolution in gen IV so that was justification...) so why not B2W2? All special Pokemon are cool, also Togepi's tend to be rare... Yay Skitty and Delcatty for White 2 ^_^ |
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Oh I forgot all about Rotom (in Bw that was in an game trade). Maybe someone gives it to the player to take care of because it's too much for them to handle.
Perhaps Zorua will be a gift Pokemon this time around... |
Yeah after all the attention Zorua and Zoroark already got, I don't really see it getting an event or anything special in B2W2, as a gift Pokemon it would be okay.
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Maybe it'll have an egg move like Snarl (which happens to not be released yet...hopefully they add it to B2W2).
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I don't see Zoroark as a gift. I might be wrong as they used to give out that Lv.100 Arceus. I can see Zorua as one... I wonder if we do get these Pokemon in-game where would they be at? Or they could just put in a new location...
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I wonder how many species are there per route...it'll be interesting to see what we meet.
I'll like for Milktank and Taurus to appear since classics like Chansey are said to be in these games so why not the classic bolvine Pokemon. |
I've heard that the Electabuzz and Skitty lines have been confirmed for the new Pokedex, they will be exclusive to White 2.
The Buneary and Magmar lines will be exclusive to Black 2. So yeah, first version exclusives confirmed! |
I wonder since they didn't say anything about the rest so far if they are within all games...there really doesn't seem to be that many version exclusive Pokemon in these games if so.
I can see Sableye and Mawhile being version exclusive Pokemon too like they were in the old games. |
Splitting up some of the previously version-exclusive Pokemon would make sense, but I also like what they did with Skitty and Buneary (separating two similarly cute, two-stage Pokemon). With that said, maybe they'll split up Koffing and Grimer, for example? Though it is curious that version exclusives have only been brought up now.
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Or maybe two blob poison types like Grimer and Glupin and the snake Pokemon Seviper and Arbok will be seperated too.
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They've revealed about 74 of the supposed 145 Gen I-IV Pokemon they're going to include. Roughly 50% already! But with almost double the Pokemon still up for grabs, I wonder what we'll see? They oddly haven't revealed any Bug-types yet, for one.
Based on the upcoming TCG set based on BW2, I'd say we're gonna also get: Rattata Raticate Scyther Scizor Heracross Croagunk Toxicroak |
Scizor and Heracross :D! I sure hope so, I've been desiring for them to be in this game for quite awhile now.
They haven't shown much dark, or ghost types either... I'll like for the Duskull line to be in these games. And so far we only have Ralts for Psychic, and Riolu for fighting... |
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Even though Seviper and Arbok are both snake-based, I don't see both being version exclusive counterparts because Arbok already evolves from another Pokemon (Ekans), while Seviper doesn't evolve into or from anything. Instead, I can see Zangoose and Seviper as the version exclusive counterparts because of their rivalry. Regarding the revealed version exclusives, I'm happy that the Elekid line will be in W2, but not so fond about the Skitty line (even though I'm okay with cats, I don't like the Skitty line in terms of battling. They're still cute, though) |
I'm mad that the Skitty line is in W2. I wanted one! I hope someone can trade me one.
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^ Don't worry I got you covered.
I'm quite surprised that they chose Loppuny out of all Pokemon for a version exclusive, seems like of random... Oh right in Ruby and Sapphire those Zangoose and Seviper were exclusives so they might be again. |
tbh even though Skitty is an exclusive for White 2, maybe it'll still have an in-game trade (same for Lopunny) because it's such an unusual exclusive.
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I think I can break it down on why they made Skitty and Buneary version-exclusive.
Both are Normal-types in a 2-stage evolution line and both their evolutions have Cute Charm for a non-Dream World ability while the other normal ability has negative effects. Also, both have a feminine appearance. So, I guess that explains why they are sort-of counterparts. The Magby and Elekid lines were obvious though. I'm hoping more version-exclusives will be revealed in coming days. |
The infamous "type chart" image reveals that we're also getting:
Onix Steelix Rattata Raticate Spoink Grumpig AND, somebody pointed out something I found quite amazing that we've all missed: Remoraid and Octillery must be included, because Mantyke can't evolve without them! |
It's been a long time since we had Spoink in a regional Pokedex.
The last time Spoink was in a regional Pokedex was in R/S/E, 7 years ago. But still, I'm loving the new Unova Pokedex! |
Yes Spoink needs to return, I like the little bouncy pig.
Perhaps the reason for all the Hoenn Pokemon in the dex is because a majority missed out on the Sinnoh and old Unova dex. |
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Shoomish FTW! I would love to have a Breloom. Electrike would also be nice, I didn't fell Unova had many good electric types...luckily we got Elekid line, Magnemite line, and the Flaffy lines.
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The Elekid and Mareep lines have been popular for many fans. And yeah, Breloom is an awesome Grass-type. It gets great moves like Mach Punch and Sky Uppercut. |
^ It's also a great fighting type with those moves ^_^ and it's abilities aren't all that bad.
Hopefully they continue to add more fan favorites like Milotic, and Gyrados. |
Breloom was very underrated for a long time (until he was being used often competitively). He's been my favorite for a long time. Sure he dies to a peck but it's allll gooooooood.
I do hope Shroomish is able to be accessed early, so on my other restart Black version (White / White 2 are/will be my main versions, while I use Black to restart to do the adventure again) I can have one in my party. I'm going to start White 2 with Snivy and I don't like having two grass types in my party. I swear everything can learn Flamethrower, and developers are not scared to slap it on Gym leaders / E4 / Bosses (whoever they may be). |
There are only 60 open spots left, if all the Pokemon revealed so far are indeed part of the new Unova Dex. 60 sounds like a lot, but really, picking the next 60 is tough! You just can't pick all the coolest ones, nor can you load up on Hoenn exclusively and hope to have any kind of balance type-wise.
Here are my guesses. Though I do like the idea of Electrike, sadly there are just so many pure Electric-types already confirmed that I don't think it's likely for him to show up... unless they ditch Pikachu! o_O; http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v153/ANinyMouse/adampoke.png Based on the pattern of what they've revealed so far, I've noticed they've chosen a good number of pure, mono-type Pokemon. So, since they've revealed no Bug-types yet, I went with both Pinsir & Volbeat & Illumise. Scyther & Scizor are in the BW2 TCG, and so is Heracross & Croagunk. The rest are just what I think would work really well. The exceptions are probably Rotom & Ditto. I really think they'd add a lot to the region, but they're both very rare, so who knows how likely that is. Rotom has never been a wild Pokemon, either. But, both of them are involved in an in-game trade in BW. Rotom changes forms at the Unova Department Store on Route 9, too. Besides being a really cool, under-represented Pokemon, he also adds a ton of type diversity by himself, like Eevee does, only he only takes up one Pokedex slot. |
Ditto was an Eastern Unova pokemon in BW so it's likely considering the vast amount of pokemon that were in that part in the orginal games being part of the dex.
Also despite the highest dex number proably being 300-Genesect (since Meloetta is 299) there are 301 Pokemon in this dex counting Victini with the 300. |
Ditto has to be in there, because we neeeeeed it for breeding. I don't see Carvanha though because it's a lot like Basculin.
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But seriously, I can kind of see Carvanha and Sharpedo coming back in the Unova Dex because they were in eastern Unova in the original B/W. |
Toujours is right, we need Ditto cos it makes our breeding so easy.
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I wonder how they will explain all the new Pokemon in story... |
I think the only thing about my list I'm not sure about is that it still has just Dragonite & Altaria as the only new Dragon-type additions. Seems like there ought to be one more, but all the other ones aren't likely except Flygon, imo. He takes up 3 pokedex spots, though, and I already picked a bunch of Ground-types.
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Stuff I hope is in, but will prob. not get in-
Milotic, because it's awesome. Hopefully someplace where you can catch it like off Rt 1 like it was. Poocheena line, because they're adorable. A random dragon type line that we don't see often- maybe Flygon line? Starly line. I don't like the unova bird. I want my own. Stuff I want that might get in- Ditto Rotom Porygon, as a gift again. Those things are cool, even though they often are benchwarmers. |
I'll like to see Trapinch, Crawdaunt, Jynx (hasn't been in a dex I beleive since Johto's). Also the one's that have been in every regional dex since their introduction will proably be making a comeback...so lets prepare for Zubat, Geodude, Magikarp, Machop, Ralt (it was shown in the Radar thing so this one is likely), Abra, Snorunt, Pichu, etc.
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Yes @Skitty. It'll be on my team. :DD I'm hoping for Bagon's evolution line to be in.
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Agreed on Ditto a few posts back. Not sure where it'd be found, probably at the area around Nuvema this time.
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