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PaxAmericana May 30th, 2012 7:24 AM

With them bringing back Magby-Magmar-Magmortar, I get the feeling they will bring back Elekid-Electabuzz-Electivire as well, and so my question is: Does anyone else feel the same way?

PlatinumDude May 30th, 2012 7:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jellicent♀ (Post 7197288)
Anyway, I'm really hoping they bring in Magikarp and Gyarados. <3
Maybe not give them as many routes and towns as they have been given since the franchise began, but a little something, maybe like one or two routes.

This, I'd like to see. After all, Magikarp and Gyarados were in the Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh Dexes. I don't see any reason to exclude them from the new Unova Dex. At least I don't have to waste P500 to buy one like in the original B/W.

Ho-Oh May 30th, 2012 7:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jellicent♀ (Post 7197288)
Oui.
And I would have thought that when they made Black and White, but Emolga's only importance was that it was in Elesa's team and that you could trade a Boldore for one. Other than that it was pretty absent. If they do bring back Pikachu I hope they give it a little more importance than it has been given. As much as I don't like it, it IS the franchise's mascot You'd expect to see a little more of it.

Anyway, I'm really hoping they bring in Magikarp and Gyarados. <3
Maybe not give them as many routes and towns as they have been given since the franchise began, but a little something, maybe like one or two routes.

Yeah I want Gyarados too, maybe someone around route 17/18 if they're still accessible might own one, too. But yeah other than maybe being on the fishing rod I don't really think they fit in much. XD;

Jellicent♀ May 30th, 2012 7:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 7197293)
This, I'd like to see. After all, Magikarp and Gyarados were in the Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh Dexes. I don't see any reason to exclude them from the new Unova Dex. At least I don't have to waste P500 to buy one like in the original B/W.

That one's my favorite. ;;
But yeah! They've appeared wild in every game, let them have a shot in this one, even if it is on just one route!

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Originally Posted by Requility (Post 7197302)


Yeah I want Gyarados too, maybe someone around route 17/18 if they're still accessible might own one, too. But yeah other than maybe being on the fishing rod I don't really think they fit in much. XD;

No they don't at all, really. xD
But it'd be nice if they were placed in at least one little route where you can catch them off of a rod or something. Maybe the little surfing spots or something.

Ho-Oh May 30th, 2012 7:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jellicent♀ (Post 7197312)
No they don't at all, really. xD
But it'd be nice if they were placed in at least one little route where you can catch them off of a rod or something. Maybe the little surfing spots or something.

Or maybe a larger event than what was at the bridge in B/W when you got Magikarp. A Gyarados/Magikarp fishing contest, winner gets one and a prize for whichever is biggest? And for that to be the only place to catch them obv. Maybe near where Shizui is found. :3

Jellicent♀ May 30th, 2012 7:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Requility (Post 7197322)


Or maybe a larger event than what was at the bridge in B/W when you got Magikarp. A Gyarados/Magikarp fishing contest, winner gets one and a prize for whichever is biggest? And for that to be the only place to catch them obv. Maybe near where Shizui is found. :3

-twitch-
That would be beautiful! D8
Gyarados AND Shizui (dat tan) in one sitting? You ma'am, are a genius.
I'm hoping they add a lot more Water-type Pokemon into the games, as well. I'd love to see Goldeen and Seaking make a return. <3
There are plenty of little ponds for them to live in, too! Lotad and its family would be pretty epic to have added to the games, as well. No Tentacool. Leave that little guy out. :c

PlatinumDude May 30th, 2012 7:56 AM

Since we're talking about whether or not Magikarp and Gyarados would be in the game, how about Feebas and Milotic? All 4 Pokemon were together in the Hoenn and Sinnoh dexes, plus they're counterparts to one another (Magikarp to Feebas and Gyarados to Milotic).

Ho-Oh May 30th, 2012 7:59 AM

I really don't see them making a return. Given that they were the rarest in Hoenn and that we think R/S remakes are soon, imo I think they'll save them for the remakes rather than give them an appearance in B2W2.

Jellicent♀ May 30th, 2012 8:03 AM

Idk, I could see them making a return. Maybe have much less importance than a possible Magikarp/Gyarados return, but still be there. They may very well be in the same area with the same appearance rate, Magikarp and Feebas having 40%, Milotic and Gyarados having 10% or w/e. Either way, I don't see them really taking them out just because of the possibility of an R/S remake.

ANinyMouse May 30th, 2012 9:55 AM

So far, we have...

Riolu Lucario
Psyduck Golduck
Lapras
Belbum Metang Metagross
Larvitar Pupitar Tyranitar
Sneasel Weavile
Growlithe Arcanine
Mareep Flaafy Ampharos
Eevee Vaporeon Jolteon Flareon Espeon Umbreon Leafeon Glaceon
Grimer Muk
Koffing Weezing
Absol
Wingull Pelipper
Drifloon Drifblim
Sunkern Sunflora
Zangoose
Seviper
Buneary Lopunny
Magnemite Magneton Magnezone
Magby Magmar Magmortar
Azurill Marill Azumarill
Mantyke Mantine
Zubat Golbat Crobat


...which brings us to... only 55/150 of the old Pokemon known to us so far. That's not many! But, if we add all the Eastern Unova ones, all the Swarms, and all the ones found by fishing (all from BW), we get WAY OVER 150. Thus, I think it's safe to say that the 150 old Pokemon that are in the Unova Dex are just the ones that are found before completing the main storyline, while others will show up after beating the main game.

Zayphora May 30th, 2012 1:38 PM

I WANT my Milotics!! I got one postgame at rt 1 and it's awesome, but it took foreeeeever to catch! Sadly, they prob. won't be included...

Oryx May 30th, 2012 1:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Zayphora (Post 7197685)
I WANT my Milotics!! I got one postgame at rt 1 and it's awesome, but it took foreeeeever to catch! Sadly, they prob. won't be included...

Weren't they included in B/W? I don't see why they would take them out in the new ones...

ANinyMouse May 30th, 2012 5:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Toujours (Post 7197689)


Weren't they included in B/W? I don't see why they would take them out in the new ones...

Because not all the Gen 1-4 Pokemon are gonna fit in the expanded Unova Regional Pokedex, as I was saying above. After you beat the main storyline, however, I don't see any reason why Feebas wouldn't be included.

PaxAmericana May 31st, 2012 6:17 AM

I wonder if the will pull an Emerald on us and give us one of the Sinnoh starters after we beat the game.

Remember, in Emerald, they gave one of the Johto starters to us.

Even though B2W2 is a sequel, it could happen.

Ho-Oh May 31st, 2012 8:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Reshiram Man (Post 7198479)
I wonder if the will pull an Emerald on us and give us one of the Sinnoh starters after we beat the game.

Remember, in Emerald, they gave one of the Johto starters to us.

Even though B2W2 is a sequel, it could happen.

That would be kinda boring to do imo. XD; We receive every set of starters basically in every game (okay minus a few, but still) and having to choose from the Sinnoh group would just kinda lose the appeal of Unova just having its own + new natives. :(

PaxAmericana May 31st, 2012 8:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Requility (Post 7198657)


That would be kinda boring to do imo. XD; We receive every set of starters basically in every game (okay minus a few, but still) and having to choose from the Sinnoh group would just kinda lose the appeal of Unova just having its own + new natives. :(

Now that I think of it, it would be kinda boring to do, but again, it was just a thought.
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I really wish they'd at least release some new Pokedexes news sometime soon before the release.
I really want these two lines to return
Bagon-Shelgon-Salamence
Dratini-Dragonair-Dragonite

They are overused, but they are amazing nonetheless.

Oryx May 31st, 2012 9:17 AM

I always found Salamence really boring. I mean, he's like...the most basic dragon-looking thing you can have. :( Idk not one I would ever use, haha.

blue May 31st, 2012 9:21 AM

I can see Taillow & Hoothoot being available early on as the bird Pokémon, I can see them fitting in quite nicely.

PaxAmericana May 31st, 2012 9:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7198691)
I can see Taillow & Hoothoot being available early on as the bird Pokémon, I can see them fitting in quite nicely.

Either them or Starly, because Starly is pretty amazing for a start off bird.
Starly could fit in okay just as well as Tailow and Hoothoot for the early on bird.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 31st, 2012 2:49 PM

Well it'll be nice if we could get the Sinnoh starters to cut off from the old DS games much like gen IV did with gen III with HgSs.
I see two of the regional birds being in one game and the other two in the other. Pigey and Hoothoot in Black 2 with Swallow and Starly in White 2 or vise versa/ another combo.

Jellicent♀ June 2nd, 2012 7:47 AM

I honestly can't see any of the regional birds returning to be THIS region's bird, especially since Unova already has one. Yeah they're bringing back a lot of Pokemon, but something with that type of status, I just can't see coming in until post-game times.

Lt. Col. Fantastic June 2nd, 2012 8:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Reshiram Man (Post 7128610)
I just now noticed this. If you look in the bottom left corner of one of the scans, there are the 2 Kyurem formes. Lucario stands in front of one, while Metagross stands in front of the other. Could this mean Lucario and/or Metagross are version exclusives?

Well, they are both dual steel types, but I don't think they will do that. Metagross has 3 forms and Lucario has two, and game freak loves symetricality. ( Is that a word? )

I also hope we don't have the same starters. I think ( dont shoot me! ) that the fire/water/grass starter tradition is getting old. We could see something like fight/dark/psychic or electric/flying/ground....you know what? That sounds lame. Keep the starters.

SchwarzRozen June 2nd, 2012 11:10 AM

Fight/Dark/Psy would never go into play as there is an Immunity, and same with Electric/Flying/Ground.

I say Pikachu will be in it, because its the one that appears everywhere. I also am going to call out Abra, mostly because I really want it xD

Oryx June 2nd, 2012 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Lt. Col. Fantastic (Post 7201681)
Well, they are both dual steel types, but I don't think they will do that. Metagross has 3 forms and Lucario has two, and game freak loves symetricality. ( Is that a word? )

I also hope we don't have the same starters. I think ( dont shoot me! ) that the fire/water/grass starter tradition is getting old. We could see something like fight/dark/psychic or electric/flying/ground....you know what? That sounds lame. Keep the starters.

I think they've already shown the starters being chosen in a Pokemon Smash episode so I don't think that's possible anyway haha. But they are giving more elemental options early on. I just hope that they have a Fire and Grass-type early on like they have Azurill early so you can replace the starters if you want.

Jellicent♀ June 2nd, 2012 2:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Toujours (Post 7201902)


I think they've already shown the starters being chosen in a Pokemon Smash episode so I don't think that's possible anyway haha. But they are giving more elemental options early on. I just hope that they have a Fire and Grass-type early on like they have Azurill early so you can replace the starters if you want.

I believe they showed Growlithe pretty early on, plus with the Eevee shown at level 18, I would think it's relatively early, too. How early you can get the stones to evolve it, however, is still a mystery.
But yeah, the starters have been confirmed as Tepig, Snivy, and Oshawott. Why people find this surprising is still...confusing to me, really. xD
I still pray that Pikachu isn't in this game. Like, no. ;;
Skitty would be cute to have in this game, too. <3


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