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Zelda April 15th, 2012 4:55 PM

I see the rival acting like he knows it all more than a womanizer. :p

I guess towards the protagonist he'll be more like Gary/Barry (but in less of a rush) in a way, since they are childhood friends. To everyone else, he could be pushy and wicked.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 15th, 2012 5:00 PM

^ I agree, I see him as being all Barry and May/Brandon to us, but Blue like to everyone else, that would mean that he only feels confortable with people he knows and comes off as rude to those he doesn't know...that's an interesting characteristic combo I haven't seen in any rival in the games so far.

Clacla April 15th, 2012 5:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Patchisou Yutohru (Post 7130465)
I hope his personality is so different from it. What I'm hoping his personality will be is a mixture of Barry and Gary. Some medium between the two.

http://serebii.net/black2white2/pics.shtml#

The rival and protagonist are together in most of these pictures. SQUEEEE!!!

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but maybe there will finally be a rival that sticks with you most of the game? I'd feel happier, knowing that my true friends weren't only Pokemon, tbh.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 15th, 2012 5:07 PM

Maybe the player is the only friend the rival has due to his attitude which is why he follows us so closely, making his dependent on us...if that's the case I'll feel sorry for him :(

Zelda April 15th, 2012 5:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Clacla (Post 7133776)


Not sure if it's been mentioned, but maybe there will finally be a rival that sticks with you most of the game? I'd feel happier, knowing that my true friends weren't only Pokemon, tbh.

YES. I would love this! I'm hoping that the rival/protagonist will be close enough to travel and stick together more than just at random points in the games. The rivals going off on their own to be stronger than you gets boring and it's very generic.

Jellicent♀ April 15th, 2012 5:13 PM

Oh my God, and what if you're going through the grass with him with you, you meet a wild Pokemon, and he catches the Pokemon on the route, instead of having a SET team? That would be magical. <333

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 15th, 2012 5:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jellicent♀ (Post 7133790)
Oh my God, and what if you're going through the grass with him with you, you meet a wild Pokemon, and he catches the Pokemon on the route, instead of having a SET team? That would be magical. <333

I can see that happening with his second Pokemon similar to how Wally caught his first Pokemon, minus we actually have to weaken it this time rather than the computer working ^_^.

Clacla April 15th, 2012 5:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jellicent♀ (Post 7133790)
Oh my God, and what if you're going through the grass with him with you, you meet a wild Pokemon, and he catches the Pokemon on the route, instead of having a SET team? That would be magical. <333

That would be cool. And double battles in grass with your rival, and every here and there he catches a Pokemon. I could see myself putting his Pokemon asleep, or KOing it, because he could become an annoying thief.

Zelda April 15th, 2012 5:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7133800)

I can see that happening with his second Pokemon similar to how Wally caught his first Pokemon, minus we actually have to weaken it this time rather than the computer working ^_^.

I'd kill the Pokémon he would try to catch on purpose. ;) Which you also have to take into account. It would be fun if the protagonist and rival traveled together, but he should also venture off and catch Pokémon by himself so we'll be "surprised".

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 15th, 2012 5:30 PM

He could leave after we arrive in a town, and arrive in the following one to challenge us, then we go together again and so on. I can also see him teaming up with us like Steven and Barry did against the antagonists.
Part of me is also hoping that their is a second rival we have yet to see...like Wally did, except she doesn't steal the whole spot light of the first rival.

antemortem April 15th, 2012 5:34 PM

The rival is absolutely adorable looking and his hair speaks so many words in terms of good fashion sense. His jacket and everything are just so cool. Honestly, I have to say he is the coolest rival ever, outclassing that of Brendan; one of which I thought would never be topped for me. (that hat owo~)

Anyway, I think he's an unrelated kid to the protagonists. I'm thinking that he's somehow related to the Professor, just for a toss up in the family trees, and has heard of the protagonists around the city and when the day comes that they can take a journey, he confronts the protagonist.

so kawaii~

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 15th, 2012 5:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Minzy (Post 7133830)
The rival is absolutely adorable looking and his hair speaks so many words in terms of good fashion sense. His jacket and everything are just so cool. Honestly, I have to say he is the coolest rival ever, outclassing that of Brendan; one of which I thought would never be topped for me. (that hat owo~)

Anyway, I think he's an unrelated kid to the protagonists. I'm thinking that he's somehow related to the Professor, just for a toss up in the family trees, and has heard of the protagonists around the city and when the day comes that they can take a journey, he confronts the protagonist.

so kawaii~

It's been confirmed that he was the protagonist's childhood friend. Him being related to the proffesor would bring back so many memories...

He is quite cool looking, even more so than Blue and Silver...

Jellicent♀ April 15th, 2012 5:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7133837)

It's been confirmed that he was the protagonist's childhood friend. Him being related to the proffesor would bring back so many memories...

He is quite cool looking, even more so than Blue and Silver...

Like Giovanni and Silver?
I kind of hope this isn't one of those types of scenarios, but if it is, I definitely don't want it to be that Akuroma is the father. I want him to be an older brother, at most.

Though it would be neat if they had some sort of relationship between the two, family or friends and such. That would only make me more suspicious of the rival, though. Which is ok. I still love him. <3333

antemortem April 15th, 2012 5:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7133837)

It's been confirmed that he was the protagonist's childhood friend. Him being related to the proffesor would bring back so many memories...

He is quite cool looking, even more so than Blue and Silver...

More childhood friends... great, cliches to the max.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 15th, 2012 5:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jellicent♀ (Post 7133855)
Like Giovanni and Silver?
I kind of hope this isn't one of those types of scenarios, but if it is, I definitely don't want it to be that Akuroma is the father. I want him to be an older brother, at most.

Though it would be neat if they had some sort of relationship between the two, family or friends and such. That would only make me more suspicious of the rival, though. Which is ok. I still love him. <3333

That would make the Rival seem so much like Silver and N...
Maybe he's a friend of the prof's who is fooled into misleading the Main character away from the evil groups activities...then he teams up with the player after find out he's been used as a pawn.

Ho-Oh April 16th, 2012 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Clacla (Post 7133776)
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but maybe there will finally be a rival that sticks with you most of the game? I'd feel happier, knowing that my true friends weren't only Pokemon, tbh.

So battle at basically every town or something? Or meet up at every town? Might kinda get a bit repetitive though :( I think there is a good thing in not seeing the rival that often. XD;

Mew~ April 16th, 2012 1:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7134177)


So battle at basically every town or something? Or meet up at every town? Might kinda get a bit repetitive though :( I think there is a good thing in not seeing the rival that often. XD;

I'm not too sure about most of the time, and through a lot of the journey through Unova. He doesn't exactly look like he'd want to, he still has that smugness about him if you ask me. I'd quite like it if it were in set events occasionally throughout the game. Sort of like how you team up with Cheryl, Riley, Mira, Buck and Marley in D/P. I'd actually quite like to see a bunch of more trainers in B2/W2 like them, I found it quite fun.

Overlord Drakow April 16th, 2012 2:00 AM

This rival dude does seem like a bit of a badass to me. Things will probably be quite competitive between the rival and the protagonists.

Zelda April 16th, 2012 2:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7133826)
He could leave after we arrive in a town, and arrive in the following one to challenge us, then we go together again and so on. I can also see him teaming up with us like Steven and Barry did against the antagonists.
Part of me is also hoping that their is a second rival we have yet to see...like Wally did, except she doesn't steal the whole spot light of the first rival.

SHE.
SHE.

http://reparaciondepc.cl/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Lol-face-meme.jpg

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Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7134177)


So battle at basically every town or something? Or meet up at every town? Might kinda get a bit repetitive though :( I think there is a good thing in not seeing the rival that often. XD;

I think it would be nice for us to meet our rivals a lot more than at random points in the games! Like the anime but not throughout our entire adventure. To see him and battle him at least more than we usually get to with the previous rivals, would be cool.

Jellicent♀ April 16th, 2012 4:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaori (Post 7134222)



I think it would be nice for us to meet our rivals a lot more than at random points in the games! Like the anime but not throughout our entire adventure. To see him and battle him at least more than we usually get to with the previous rivals, would be cool.

I want this. Especially at that movie theater place. That would be awesome. It'd feel more like a rival if he were to participate in big events like a tournament or something (if they even have those in this game) or Contests or something similar to that, rather than some kid who just challenges me to a battle every time he gets a shiny brooch from a guy in a wet suit surrounded by lilypads.

Oryx April 16th, 2012 5:36 AM

I like the random encounters though and wouldn't want to lose that, because it makes sense. Not like the rival will know where you are every step of the way, so when you do meet up it's just by chance and random, which is what I think the random encounters are trying to portray. I like the idea of him participating in the non-training stuff in the region too though, even if it's only done once or twice.

Jellicent♀ April 16th, 2012 5:43 AM

Right. He has to have a small case of the Gary Oak Syndrome, but not after every single gym battle or right before every single cave. But the idea of him taking place in things that don't concern training or the such just, idk, makes it seem more real, to me.

Oryx April 16th, 2012 5:46 AM

Although we have to question whether or not that matches with his personality. It would have made sense to see Bianca in the musicals, but considering his expression and his "I'm going to rage" motto, will he be the type of person to compete in things outside of training just for fun?

Jellicent♀ April 16th, 2012 5:49 AM

Hmm. Muy bien point there. If his personality is that he's better than us at everything, I could see him doing it to try and prove that point. However, now that I take his motto into consideration, idk. I HOPE HE DOES, THOUGH. Still, he could very well scoff at the protagonist for participating in such things.

Lancelot-sama! April 16th, 2012 4:09 PM

To make it short, I'd say the rival would be a character you really wouldn't want as your enemy, but you'd definitely want him as your good friend.

I felt he was kinda of a mix of two types of rivals we've seen before, which was either "your faithful and kind childhood friend" or the "mean and cold kid on the block." He can be capable of being very aggressive and violent, but at the same he can be your man to count on. As for his 'slogan' I don't really thinks he means to throw himself into a rage fit, but maybe he's trying to say something like "I'm getting fired/pumped up!". I can imagine him being hot-blooded guy, and perhaps even protective as he has a younger sister.

I think the sister factor kind of rules him out as being a complete jerk or anti-social guy like Silver, but then again we still know very little about him too. I'm sure he values his younger sibling, even going out of the way of walking with her until he met up with the protagonist. In fact, we even saw him tag along with our main playable character around the town. We don't know why he does, but it must mean he enjoys the player's company.

In the video we couldn't really see where the battle started, when, or how, but I can guess that it began once they've reached lookout place perhaps? Maybe the reason he followed you was because, kind of like tagging with Jun/Barry to Lake Verity, you were expected to take him to that place. Maybe a battle was arranged at the lookout beforehand? Probably. That or he suddenly thought to have the battle at the lookout because maybe he wanted to have the first battle at a 'memorable' place. I know it's just me thinking like that, but I kind of like that thought.

.... Of course I can be completely wrong lol!

Who knows, guess we have to wait, but I feel as though I rambled a bit too much.


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