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Bluerang1 April 14th, 2012 3:53 PM

New Moveset Speculations
 
BW2 are sequels and hopefully some Pokemon will be able to learn new moves after 2 years! What Pokemon do you want to learn new moves and what new moves do you want them to learn?

Top of my list is Serperior. It should be able to know Body Slam, Extreme Speed and Psychic. Its current learnset is terribly limited.

Xander Olivieri April 14th, 2012 4:12 PM

Honestly, other than a Move tutor, I don't expect any changes at all.

Jellicent♀ April 14th, 2012 4:31 PM

I'd love to see Azumarill finally learn Ice Punch.
Serperior with Psychic? Mmm, not thanks.
I'd like to see Tepig and his line learn Flame Wheel.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 14th, 2012 4:44 PM

Kyurem gaining Sheer cold at a high level of 80.
I'll also like for Serperior to be able to learn earthquake to take care of it's pesky poison and steel type opponents.

blue April 14th, 2012 4:47 PM

Doubt it, they never added any new moves to Platinum, Emerald etc and I know they're sequels but I just think it is something that wouldn't really affect the game other than maybe a couple of signature moves for Black/White Kyurem.

Killjoy April 14th, 2012 6:22 PM

Ya, it generaly changes generation to generation, but I doubt they'd make any changes half way through

Bluerang1 April 14th, 2012 6:29 PM

I don't mean new moves, like a new learnset for the Pokemon. I know they did this with Platinum.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire April 14th, 2012 6:30 PM

They have given new moves to Pokemon before I beleive, besides this is a sequel, they can justify it by saying they discovered that Pokemon can use moves they didn't know they had before like a Serperior with Earthquake.

DarkWolf13 April 14th, 2012 8:04 PM

Move Tutoring moves such as Iron Head, elemental punches, Zen Headbutt etc. I would love for those type of moves to be added. Maybe it'll sharply increase the movepool for those who lack good movesets.

649 April 14th, 2012 8:22 PM

Klinklang is begging for a good moveset, but other than that, I think we good.

rocky505 April 15th, 2012 10:11 AM

Serperior needs more attacking moves. It's movepool makes Meganium's look awesome.

Mana April 15th, 2012 11:08 AM

New moves would be great, especially for the starters. Would also be interesting to include more combo moves like the Oaths in double/triple battles.

Zelda April 15th, 2012 11:18 AM

I'd rather if Pokémon were given more moves that they weren't able to learn before than getting new moves itself. Leave that to Generation VI.

The starters are begging for better moves. :[

SnowpointQuincy April 15th, 2012 11:18 AM

Flareon is possibly the worst pokemon to ever have a 130 Attack stat. It is dying for a new moveset. Everyday you don't march with Occupy Game Freak, you are killing a Flareon!

Can you handle that!

Imagine this line up for Flareon.
-Flare Blitz
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Wild Charge

It's better than nothing.

classiccartoonsftw April 15th, 2012 11:30 AM

I want Raichu to learn the following moves:

-Fire Punch
-Ice Punch
-ExtremeSpeed
-Aqua Tail
-Assurance
-Extrasensory

Also I want Blastoise to get Crunch and Shell Smash.

blue April 15th, 2012 12:10 PM

Oh well they could expand on the movesets of a few of the new Pokémon added to the Pokédex i.e Eevee, Metagross, Mareep etc.

dreamcatcher April 18th, 2012 6:23 AM

I'm begging for a Blastoise with Shell Smash! D; And Octillery with SolarBeam, Bullet Seed is no good with a special attacker like Octi.

tj4bigred April 21st, 2012 8:33 PM

They'll probably have move tutors. I think that would improve the movepool of Serperior an other similar Pokes.

I hope that Sneasel gains Crunch and Flareon gains Flare Blitz. As part of their level up moves that is.

REvan342 April 21st, 2012 9:38 PM

Id like to see a gyarados that can learn fly....

FREEFIGHTER07 April 23rd, 2012 4:28 PM

Id love to see a 5 move choice system, but I don't thing GAME FREAK can pull there arm out of there you know what so its prob not happinen

PlatinumDude April 23rd, 2012 4:55 PM

GameFreak will most likely change the level-up movepool of some of the Pokemon in B2/W2.

Anyway, I think that Emboar should get Close Combat as a level-up move. Hammer Arm makes it even slower than it is, and Superpower forces it to switch or render its attacks weaker.

Hikamaru April 23rd, 2012 5:19 PM

I would love to see some moves that were previously TMs be available as Move Tutor moves. It would be a nice feature to give more potentially better movesets with some Pokemon.

I'd love to see Giga Drain, Dragon Pulse, Iron Tail, Dark Pulse and Drain Punch be among the moves included.

@SnowpointQuincy Flareon definitely needs an updated moveset to help with its stats. Right now, it only has Fire Fang and Flame Charge for physical STAB moves.

Jellicent♀ April 23rd, 2012 5:47 PM

I think instead of Ampharos learning Electro Ball at level 33, it should be replaced entirely with Power Gem. Ampharos has pretty pitiful speed as it is, and Power Gem would just be just the right touch, not too powerful, but not too weak, either.

bwburke94 April 26th, 2012 6:36 AM

FR/LG/E included the missing Gen I TMs as tutor moves, and Pt/HG/SS included the Gen III HM Dive as a tutor move. I could see a Gen V game including, say, Dark Pulse as a tutor move, which would have the side effect of making Deino/Zweilous actually usable.

Ho-Oh May 6th, 2012 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluerang1 (Post 7132216)
Top of my list is Serperior. It should be able to know Body Slam, Extreme Speed and Psychic. Its current learnset is terribly limited.

But it's already fast, I don't think it really needs Extremespeed. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumDude (Post 7146289)
Anyway, I think that Emboar should get Close Combat as a level-up move. Hammer Arm makes it even slower than it is, and Superpower forces it to switch or render its attacks weaker.

Yes! Close Combat is an amazing attack and Superpower yeah... it could do so much better. It'd have greater potential than Sawk then imo!

vaporeon7 May 7th, 2012 1:50 AM

I'd like to see move tutors make a reappearance that teach moves that were previously learnable in Gen IV like the punches, Stealth Rock, Giga Drain, Drain Punch, Roost as a lot of them are illegal with the Dream World abilities. Also I think a few Pokémon could have moves added to their movesets, like Beedrill and Seaking being able to learn Drill Run or something.

gimmepie May 7th, 2012 2:13 AM

Beedril and Seaking with Drill Run would be awesome! But all I'm really asking for is for Emboar to learn Fire Punch. Ghastly can learn it and it isn't even a fire type... it doesn't even have hands. Emboar even says it used Fire Punch in it's pokedex description... no Fire Punch.

Yoshikko May 7th, 2012 3:24 AM

Well Flareon just screams for a better moveset but I can't see that happening, maybe they'll add a few moves in general but I don't think they'll specifically change any Pokémon.

Dragon Scales May 7th, 2012 6:36 AM

It would be useful for Samurott to learn Earthquake. Like seriously it is the only fully evolved Water-type starter not to be able learn the move lol. >.>

gimmepie May 7th, 2012 7:02 AM

True that's weird... And since it's pure water that would make it a lot more useful in the game.

Aquarius1997 May 7th, 2012 11:38 AM

If move tutors were added i would want to see multiple moves added
-Elemental punchs
-Elemental bites
-mostly stronger useful moves, not useless moves like icy wind or snore
Some moves i know would never be added like
-the strong starter moves( hydro cannon, frenzy plant, and blast burn) be added to the strong psuedo-legendary pokemon
( i know it would never happen, but still)

rocky505 May 7th, 2012 3:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever (Post 7165087)


But it's already fast, I don't think it really needs Extremespeed. :(

Then why does Arcanine, Raichu(event), Arceus learn it? Being fast brings more hope for extremespeed.

Dragon Scales May 8th, 2012 3:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimmepie (Post 7165435)
True that's weird... And since it's pure water that would make it a lot more useful in the game.

Mmmhmm yeh true. :) It would help make Samurott more viable to run physically inclined movesets imo. Samurott has a solid range of special attack options, though somewhat lacks moves from the physical side. :3

Samurott probably has potential to learn some Fighting-type moves as well. I always thought Brick Break would be viable, or if move tutors are implemented even Superpower. O.o

Count May 8th, 2012 2:12 PM

I do see it happening actually, I mean with the climate change in Unova and stuff. The pokémon could have evolved a little, in a more realistic sense.

Ho-Oh May 8th, 2012 6:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon Scales (Post 7166592)
Mmmhmm yeh true. :) It would help make Samurott more viable to run physically inclined movesets imo. Samurott has a solid range of special attack options, though somewhat lacks moves from the physical side. :3

Samurott probably has potential to learn some Fighting-type moves as well. I always thought Brick Break would be viable, or if move tutors are implemented even Superpower. O.o

Yeah I was so disappointed at lack of fighting attacks. Give it Close Combat tbh, except that might be a little awkward considering it's an otter creature. OH WELL. If not defs Brick Break.

Gonzo May 9th, 2012 2:10 AM

OMG, there are TONS of Pokemon that need better sets.

Let me start with starters:
Snivy - some non-grass moves, idk. Dragon Pulse, EQ, Rock Slide, ExtremeSpeed, perhaps? Dragon Dance and Sleep Powder would totally own.
Oshawott - It's movepool is so terrible >...<" I'd give it Ice Punch, EQ, Superpower/Close Combat. Same as Forever, I'm disappointed it doesn't have CC, it deffo should.
Tepig - more fighting moves! Arm Thrust is just so bad... I know it gets some moves from TMs, but that's not that I want, srsly. Mach Punch, plox!

Sawk/Throh - more non-Fighting moves in their learnsets. A priority would be neat as well. Elemental Punches would own as well.

Zorua and Zoroark - lvl up Sucker Punch, wider Physical moveset.

Woobat - Trick, Baton Pass. CM Passing, anyone?

Excadrill - Iron Head

Ice cream family, Klink family - wider movepools! Vanistuff can't do much even with better movepool but what they have is just crap tbh. Klink has a Dragon Dance+ move that is, unfortunately, useless, because it doesn't have the moveset to fit it. Rock Slide, EQ are must. I'd also give it Flare Blitz - it could spin so fast and cover in flames. Or Overheat at least?

Seismitoad - no Ice moves? Dafuq?

Elektross - Elemental Punches. It's special movepool is great, but it's Physical is disappointing, especially, if it can use coil.

Golett - same as Elektross - Elemental Punches. It also needs Bullet or Mach Punch and Drain Punch. Iron First abusing FTW!

Deino family - Dark Pulse and Sucker Punch in lvl up

Now, non-native monsters:

Flareon - Flare Blitz, base Attack just begs for it!

Lucario - Doom Desire. I wouldn't use that but it would be cool XD

Sunkern - Implosion, Suicide, 0% Acc SelfDestruct, whatever. I hate that Pokemon so much :3c

That's pretty all for now. When more Pokemon will be know I'll post my hopes. I didn't mention many Pokemon with terrible movesets, like Audino or Pidove, but that's because I don't really care about them.

Ho-Oh May 9th, 2012 6:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonz0 (Post 7167930)
OMG, there are TONS of Pokemon that need better sets.

Sawk/Throh - more non-Fighting moves in their learnsets. A priority would be neat as well. Elemental Punches would own as well.

Seismitoad - no Ice moves? Dafuq?

Deino family - Dark Pulse and Sucker Punch in lvl up

! Hmmm, something like Mach Punch would be awesome on Sawk considering it's banded/scarfed anyway (maybe something like Ice Punch for flying types @ Scarf set, and Mach Punch @ Band set). Damnit I want this.

Aaand ice beam! Maybe?

Agreed w/ Dark Pulse but I don't really want a physical Hydreigon. :(

Gonzo May 9th, 2012 10:29 AM

Well, Hydreigon has 105 base Attack, so a mixed set would be neat.

Xebelleon May 9th, 2012 11:50 AM

I remember a time when there were a few Pokemon that would ONLY get certain TM's educated into the family through breeding.

Dig Krabby
Psychic Psyduck as examples

Hone Claws Eevee could be fun.
Just don't want to see Vacuum Wave on too many water Pokemon regardless of seeing it used by a Wailmer. On a few waters would be nice.

Shadow Sneak makes more sense on Dark types than Sucker Punch, but thats just me. Not like it matters when facing a Rattled.

What I most want is Hail on the storm Pranksters.

Ho-Oh May 9th, 2012 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonz0 (Post 7168376)
Well, Hydreigon has 105 base Attack, so a mixed set would be neat.

Possibly but I'd rather like if it were possible to just have it full out special because that's where the power lies. XD; More of a thing with siding with power over priority though, could be useful against Latios etc though if it did have Sucker Punch. Hmmm.

Zayphora May 11th, 2012 12:02 PM

Oshawott line needs a ground move, hopefully Earthquake. I'm getting fed up of being pwned by Electric types with one move.

Mr155555 May 11th, 2012 12:09 PM

I Could Consider For Samurott to Learn Sacred Sword

PlatinumDude May 11th, 2012 3:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zayphora (Post 7170951)
Oshawott line needs a ground move, hopefully Earthquake. I'm getting fed up of being pwned by Electric types with one move.

But don't they already get Dig? I know that it's not a good move in general, but it's good in-game.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr155555 (Post 7170956)
I Could Consider For Samurott to Learn Sacred Sword

But that would take away Sacred Sword's uniqueness to the legendary musketeers! ;_; The move also explicitly states that the user attacks with its horns. While Samurott does have a horn, it mainly uses it for Megahorn, and it uses its swords when it uses Razor Shell, or presumably X-Scissor and Fury Cutter.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 11th, 2012 3:06 PM

^ Well Rayquaza did get V-create though that was from an event...
I'm hoping that it's Serperior who gets Earthquake, it needs a move against those steel types...

Sydian May 11th, 2012 4:20 PM

Give my pretty Petilil/Lilligant some moves that aren't just Grass, please! Trick, Baton Pass, Silver Wind, Calm Mind, give it some stuffs! :) plz. I'm tired of hearing complaints about her moveset sucking. I'm fine with my Dream Eater Lilligant though WEEEEEEE.

Ho-Oh May 11th, 2012 5:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sydian (Post 7171162)
Give my pretty Petilil/Lilligant some moves that aren't just Grass, please! Trick, Baton Pass, Silver Wind, Calm Mind, give it some stuffs! :) plz. I'm tired of hearing complaints about her moveset sucking. I'm fine with my Dream Eater Lilligant though WEEEEEEE.

Bug Buzz Lilligant would be wonderful actually. :3 I actually think her moveset is pretty good, tbh. Chlorophyll orrr Own Tempo w/ the moves (only tried former though) can be fun already imo.

Don't know where you could fit bug buzz though ;;


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