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I'm not sure whether I'm excited or indifferent to Cheren being a Gym Leader this time around. I'm also in the same situation with regards to Bianca's current role, but it does make sense considering what happened in BW.
I think N looks younger this time around, too. It's strange, isn't it? |
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Maybe the showing of a younger N hints that we'll just get a very detailed back story as to what had happened to him prior to and after the Pokemon League incident?
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I'm wondering why Cheren decides to be a Normal type Gym leader and move to South West Unova? He's the first Gym I heard.
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Misty and Brock just makes me think anime tbh. Not really a fan of them returning ;; Giovanni trying to relaunch team rocket...?
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....the heck is up with N's face....o-o
Also, anyone else notice that Bianca's glasses look EXACTLY like Cheren's, which he seems to no longer be wearing? |
I'm glad Cheren, Bianca an N are returning. They were such great characters.
Bianca wears glasses now? Maybe she might be the new professor? And I've heard that Homika is Brycen's daughter? This will make it the second main series game where a Gym Leader and their child are both Gym Leaders in the same game (after Roark and Byron in D/P/Pt). I like how so many old characters are returning like Steven, Cynthia, Misty, Brock, Lance and Giovanni. |
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So Giovanni's going to be returning once again (guess he didn't die!). This doesn't add up, really! @Hikari10 - Nope, Homika's father hasn't been revealed. Quote:
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Oh wait @ kaori I forgot he died o_O how strange! |
In the game, I want N to return.
In the anime, this. http://www.serebiiforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4299&d=1336793882 ^^ |
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Let's talk about Ruby now. Back to never going on this website again. Later. |
Geovanni's apperance makes me hopeful that Cyrus will return...though unlike him Cyrus was never a gym leader...so geo might simply be appearing because of his Gym leader status in Gen I and remakes...
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Bianca's wearing Cheren's glasses, and Cheren is blushing. Hmmm...
And that's definitely Steven in the scan, not Ruby/Brendan. |
Looking more closely at Bianca, I really like how she was redesigned. Cheren seems quite weird, but Bianca looks more mature & less of a klutz.
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Well maybe the fact that she was undecided between model and professor, perhaps Juniper is just training her to follow in her footsteps rn and that she could also have a modelling career on the side and by the end we decide what she's really going to do with life?
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Bianca looks flipping adorable imo. Also I think later one she really started to feel like following Juniper's footsteps and becoming a Pokemon Professor as well in Black/White. Least that goal seems more prominent than her becoming an actress? I'm not really sure.
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It says Binaca gives you your Starter Pokemon as a Favor for Juniper who can't be there.
As for why she is Juniper's assistant....she became Juniper's Assistant in Black and White. After the incident in Castella Bianca is pretty much seen with Professor Juniper and is always assisting her. Seems pretty obvious she became her assistant through the course of the game play. |
I like Bianca's new design, though it seems odd for her to be an assistant.I wonder if the fact she has Cheren's glass indicate any sort of relationship.
So if Cheren and Bianca are returning, does this mean our heroes, Hilda and Hilbert will be returning? They could be like E4 or something. |
Giovanni taking his place as Gym Leader back after all the mess in Gen I and II sounds a bit weird, but maybe it's just that the International Police hasn't told the guys in Unova about him being the elader of a criminal band and all (way to go Looker!).
Anyway, they have a crapton of nostalgia leaders so I'm glad they bring them back (Janine and Blue hell yeah!). |
I'm actually really excited about a lot of the old characters returning. :D
Brock, Misty, Voltner and such. So excited ;o; I hope we still get to see the old leaders, like Lenora since it's obvious her position has been filled as a Normal type leader. ); |
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If they are bringing the Gym Leaders of Kanto back, I hope all of them (meaning Sabrina) and I hope they bring her old look back, but as far as who is coming back for sure, I am glad Bianca is back, she made me laugh throughout B/W and kind of reminds me of Yui from K-ON. And I like her new look, she looks so cute. As for who I hope comes back: Sabrina (as mentioned), Archie, Maxie, Cyrus (could have escaped DW), Looker, and I hope Lenora is still a gym leader. I enjoy battling her and she was not that hard imo. I would also like to see HB Charles, Ghetsis, and Scott (he was awesome in Emerald).
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Just saw this and I'm so glad that's it's confirmed, this looks great and the fact that Cynthia, Green (Gary), Brock, Misty, Lt. Surge, Erika, Janine, Blaine, Giovanni, Volkner, Steven Stone, and Lance are all returning and hopefully more. Just can't wait for these games now! Also, is it just me or does the battle below Gary and diagonal to Lance the character look like Brendan? |
Volkner! he and Elesa could be shipped easier now haha. Glad to see the old Gym Leaders. What seems odd is that Steven might be the only one from Hoenn. Saving the other sprites for the remakes?
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Some speculation is finally over
Personally i would have like to see more hoenn leaders in the scan would sooth my troubled mind that they would make a hoenn remake |
I'm guessing Blue/Green is going to be classified as a Champion and not Gym Leader, just due to the fact that he's next to Cynthia and on the other side there is Steven and Lance, so I'd assume Giovanni would be classed as a Gym leader then. XP This is clearly guess work though, since I don't understand any of the text.
I do really like the idea of PokeWood though. :D It sounds so much better than Musicals, and returning characters ftw!!! XD |
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Lack of Wallace as Champion makes me think that B2/W2 take place before R/S/E. To make it clear, I'd like Wallace to appear as Juan's student in B2/W2.
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Introducing old characters concerns me since it could open the door to bring back a certain someone who I don't want to see since he's been in enough games already. At least he isn't on this list, and fortunately, none of the announced have been player characters and the Champions from each region have been accounted for, so I'm hopeful this bodes well that you-know-who will stay out of the game.
However Blaine, Surge, and Giovanni are win (even if I wish they went back to Blaine's old lab-coat look... he looked more epic that way). So I guess this means Giovanni's reformed now if he's appearing in this capacity? And I'm so glad they chose Steven over Wallace as Hoenn's Champ representative. Regarding the Grunt, I've always thought he joined after Gio left the first time, so he likely wouldn't have seen the man in person; just heard of him through the rest of the team. When you encountered him in Cerulean, he seemed like a greenhorn to me xD |
I wonder, since the gym leaders from Kanto/Johto look the same is BW perhaps a few months after GSCDPPHgss with BW2 three years post...
Either way I find the lack of Hoenn gym leaders interesting...perhaps they'll show off more Gen III and IV gym leaders (Volkner seems to be the only sinnoh one) later...or perhaps they're omitted for a reason... |
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I just realized, this is the first time that Hoenn members will have in battle sprites in a DS game...I hope the rest are redesigned ^_^, maybe cameo their new looks...
Norman, Watson,Wallace, Flannery, and Winnona are the one's I'm hoping to see the most...come to think about it how will the twins fit into this tournament...will there be a double's match? Oh and if so hopefully Chilli and his siblings will have a triple match... |
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Ah yes, so excited for this feature!. I kinda wish it was 6 on 6, but that probably would make the battles too long or tough or something idk. Some more Hoenn leaders and maybe... well nah I'm fine with no more Sinnoh but more Hoenn would be nice. I kinda wish they took the time to redesign the sprites and artwork and such though, although it's not that big of a deal. |
Could be like the anime leagues. First 3 on 3 then the finals are 6 on 6
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@MRAS & drakonomega - Maybe the lack of Hoenn Gym Leaders will be a good thing, since they should leave it to RS remakes. u_u
Also, I'm glad Cheren is returning (and a Gym Leader at that), but why does he have to have a Patrat? I would guess it's because he's just starting off fulfilling his dreams and this is how he has to go about it, but it sucks. Doesn't he know better than to have a Patrat? :s |
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It is kind of redundant of cheren always ranting about how he wants to become stronger in b/w but he starts with a patrat BIG LEAP TO STRENGHTH CHEREN lol |
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Not too happy with Cheren's major dressing-down to first Gym Leader... I would have thought he'd have a more lofty position.
And I'm not sure how this whole tourney thing's going to be able to include all the Gym Leaders... it seems a little too ambitious to me. |
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Oh if Bianca upon her return, hasn't matured a whole lot after two years, that will be upsetting. |
I just don't get why Giovanni is returning in B2/W2. In the HG/SS event, didn't he run out of the cave in Tohjo Falls and jump off a waterfall? At first, I guessed that would've killed him, but since he's returning in B2/W2, does that mean he survived?
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Well with the mention that events activate the characters it's possible that it may or may not be canonical, also if you notice he has his Gen III look rather than his Gen IV look...
His presence might also be a retcon... |
Well it could be a Giovanni double :x orrrr his twin, could be something like that to explain the timeline inaccuracy. Otherwise that's the only logical explanation idk :(
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I never understood the whole "GIOVANNI MUST BE DEAD" thing. We never got any solid proof that he was, in fact, dead. And considering that he had three Pokemon on him that could learn Surf, it is entirely possible that that was the sound we heard (although I personally think it was the static from the radio). And besides that, we don't even know if he 'jumped' from anything- for all we know, the cave was on ground level. So, I don't really see anything preventing him from returning.
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Same here. I knew from the start that Giovanni didn't really die. This is an E-rated series, they wouldn't kill off a major villain for no reason. As for whether the tournament is canon... it most likely is, due to Cynthia's statements in B/W.
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Giovanni is returning? Thats pretty cool
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How would you all feel if they just brought back the characters without ANY backstory? I mean its really just a battle tornament
Personally i would be pissed but it isnt unlikely that pokemon would do this. Its very likely that the characters wouldnt have any backstories |
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I agree, I don't see them giving much infomation unlike Jasmine, who told us a little about her background. If anyone says much I'll like it to be Steven for obvious reasons...
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I don't think we'll see any protagonists except Red which plays his role in GSC and remakes. It's very unlikely since in all games we can choose gender. I'm happy our BW Rivals have grown but seeing Cheren with his final team in BW and seeing him as First Gym Leader is awkward. He should be the last leader, e4 member or the Champion.
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Hints like the few lines they speak of, if I remember the usual treatment returning characters get. And it would be too much to ask, wanting back stories for all these returning characters. Honestly, I just want them to pick out a few fitting Gen V Pokémon into their teams and I'll enjoy the rematches. Regarding the return of the playable character (male or female), I expect at the least a slight mention from Bianca and/or Cheren. It would make no sense if he or she got written out of history when it's supposed to be a sequel of sorts. |
Personally I'm a bit annoyed. Not because of the characters hasn't grown the whey we "all" imagined but the way people respond into these things. The most of you seem to think that it's somehow bad that Cheren was made to be the first Gym Leader while it's not at all. That is a clear sign that he has grown from inside too.
If you remember, Cheren was all the time emphasizing power and didn't really seem to understand that it really isn't the key to win. But now as we see him as the first Gym Leader of Unova we can in this case make an assumption that he has finally understand that in order to win you need more than pure power. You need to have a connection with your pokémons and all sorts of stuff like that. And I myself can clearly see him talking about this topic before the player challenges him. Later on in the game it's more than possible that he can be rebattled and then he has his sort of the real team with him. And what comes to the tournament, I am definitely happy to see Giovanni in there. All the other Gym Leaders are good but Giovanni is different. His dark, mysterious and he surely will put up a good fight. ^_^ But personally I don't see for example Red returning. |
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Or maybe he's using the fact that Patrat isn't all impressive in battle as a way to exemplify that connection with your Pokémon is more important than its perceived power. As said by Cameo. Who knows, maybe the Patrat gets a really good TM or something.
And he didn't have much unused (by Lenora) Gen V Normal-types to choose from, I guess? Wait, this is B2/W2, Pokémon are not supposed to be restricted by Unova's former natives. And right, Audino, Minccino and Bouffalant are available too. |
I would have expected for Cheren to be higher up than the first, maybe the 5th atleast but it's kind of a let down really.
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Also, is Patrat confirmed to be all he has on his team, or even what he has when you battle him for your Badge? Because if not, it's possible that he could be all "Oh, you're a new trainer, eh? Let's see what you've got!" and then afterwards, "Cool, OH by the way I'm a Gym Leader, come by later for srsbiz." Or something like that. |
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That said, speaking of recurring characters, it's probably to everyone's wishes, mostly, that more should be back. Now, come to think of it, I think we already have most of who and what we love back in, so I think I don't really have any further hopes, but I do hope that the entire thing is a bit more fleshed out. |
I'm actually stoked that Cheren is the first Gym Leader. It makes me think that he's there to help new trainer jumpstart their journey.
I also think it's pretty hysterical Brycen wants to be a big time actor, considering how serious he was in the previous games. |
Suppoedly he already is recognized as a big time actor according to BW xD
Well I'm glad to see Brycen back, hopefully this means he'll retake up his post as Gym leader. |
Is Alder confirmed to be in the games? I can't remember...
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Skyla: OH YA I saw some sick Pokemon over by the tower. Lets go make sure its ok...*separated and meet at top* Its ok now. I made it better. Aren't I special? I have really good eyesight. Brycen: I sense a disturbance in the force...*Shadowtriad talk and Dragon Spiral tower climb later* Hm....Bad guys stronger now...This is bad.... They pretty much don't do anything of heavy importance other than side commentary... |
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Yeah, neither one of them had much to add to the story, at all. Many Gym Leaders didn't, actually, but they at least had a little more than Brycen and Skyla. It's great to see Brycen doing something, but if they bring Skyla back, I really hope she doesn't play such a small part again.Maybe she'll fly the player in the planes as a form of transportation or something! Probably a slim chance of that happening, but at least she'd have a little more importance. |
Glad Alder and Cheren are coming back. I'd also like a Hilbert/Hilda battle similar to Red as well.
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Well for me Brycen seemed more helpful as he held out the Plasma Grunts...Skyla couldn't even bother to help us out in getting to the top, she simply wasted out time xD. |
I hope N at least makes a brief return in BW. If not, I am really gonna miss him.
I loved his wild goal strive he made during the game. But by far, his inspirational speech at the end was the best. |
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Either way, I am okay with him returning or not, but I would like him to return nonetheless. |
Considering that the game is said to revolve around the mystery of where N went if they don't show him it'll be a big let down...then again they didn't show Giovanni in GSC either.
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Even if they've presented N in the anime and everything, I honestly have doubts that he's coming back. If he does show up in the game I'm going to be very giddy, but I'm not keeping up my hopes for anything. They already said N's nowhere to be found, but I guess I might be oblivious to hints of his comeback. I still wonder if Ghetsis will ever show up again. Doubt it, but meh. It would be cool to see him show up. He's one of my favorite villains. |
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I hope the plot isn't al revolved around N, I'd like N's disapperance to be a sideline to the plot. It's doubtful though. |
I hope Lenora returns, I wanna know why she's not a gym leader no more! Also Skyla and Clay returning will be nice seeing how they were some of my favorite characters.
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I'd like Clay to return. he was cool as heck. Especially in the anime. But beyond making us take a sidetrack to a useless tower that had no effect on the plot, Skyla was really just...there. She never spoke to me, so I honestly wouldn't miss her even a little bit. |
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N has made an appearance in a trailer on Pokemon Smash! So has Ghetsis. N is shown with a Zekrom and Ghetsis with Kyurem!
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N and Ghetsis coming back!!!!
N and Ghetsis are CONFIRMED to come back
Heres a screenshot link http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/tv-n-confrontation.jpg Are you excited? What do you think their role is in the game? DISCUSS!!!! |
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Well that was no surprise really. I expected that they will return. By the looks of it it seems as if Ghetsis caught Kyurem, so he might be the one who fuses the dragons!
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Skyla is also confirmed to return as well, as in one of the new trailers from pokemon smash today, it showed a gym with a bunch of fans and propellers and stuff, and you can catch a quick glimpse of her in that part.
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It is just me, or does Ghetsis's new outfit sporting mainly the color black make him look more evil?
IMO, I think the new outfit is amazing, especially compared to the royal blue and gold from BW. |
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Just raises the question for me is. Will the character be the one to catch the third dragon then, all three have some sort of showdown. Will be interesting too see nonetheless. |
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Now he looks like an evil boss. |
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I'm wondering what exactly the story will be with Kyurem/Ghetsis (I wish I could read Japanese, it might give a bit of insight to what N is saying :/). But I find it hugely interesting that N will still have the dragon he captured in the originals. I know there's no real reason he would have released it, but it's awesome to see a returning character with a legendary Pokemon, I'm so excited :D
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At the risk of sounding insane, I kinda wish they had kept this a secret to add to a bit of shock value...
well at least to N anyway Im sure we all knew he was coming back, but still, you never know with those "Ride off into the sunset:" endings |
It looks like N was siding with the protagonist against Ghetsis so whether there was conflict and Team Plasma has been split into two different groups I don't know but it certainly looks like their aspects have changed since Black & White.
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Ok here's a spoiler i saw on serribi.net but here's some of the people Returning.
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