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OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 13th, 2012 7:48 AM

Even more new Formes?
 
We got two new Kyurem formes while most of us expected one. New formes for the God trio which no one expected! Do you think there will be new formes for the rest of the legendary Pokemon, or even non legendary Pokemon? Which one's would you like to see new forme's of?
What do you think of all these formes?

Zayphora May 13th, 2012 8:04 AM

This is verrrrry farfetch'd, but...
What if the "starter secret" thing is that the STARTERS have new formes? Yes, I know this will probably never happen, but...They might be accessible only through event or something...

Zelda May 13th, 2012 8:28 AM

If there had to be any more new forms, it would probably be given to Virizion, Terrakion, and Cobalion. They were shown in the game opening so you never know. Reshiram and Zekrom were shown in the intro too, but if they all have forms then GameFreak will definitely have overdone it.

-ty- May 13th, 2012 8:46 AM

I agree it would probably be the Virizion, Terrakion, and Cobalion trio, but I could see Victini too. But I would like to see more elemental monkeys, although that might necessarily be classified as new formes. I really don't like the Zekrom and Reshiram fusions; the designs are very messy with all of the different concepts going on. The god trio does make sense though, transforming Gods into animals to oversee the planet more directly. The meoletta formes also make sense with the enchanting singer, and athletic dancer.

Bottom line: I hope there are not any more formes. But there probably will be.

pknight96 May 13th, 2012 8:53 AM

What if the starter secret is that the starters are the Kanto Starters? Anyways, I prefer all the new formes to the old ones, and If anyone else get a new forme, I'd like it to be Archeops into the exact same thing without Defeatist.

Perriechu May 13th, 2012 10:43 AM

I agree with the musketeer trio getting the formes, if there are any more. But like Kaori said, if they all have new formes then it's certainly overkill. I'd like to see a new forme to Basculin. But this forme should be different, like type and such. Since the climate changes in Unova, it could be Water/Ice and have new stats/moves which could make it usable.

what's this 'starter secret'?

PokeGirlBel May 13th, 2012 10:50 AM

Since when is Landrous and friends the "God" Pokemon? Thought they were the 3 genies.

Kenmoor May 13th, 2012 11:34 AM

The forms will probably be limited to the Legendaries only. Or semi-legendary Pokemon like Rotom (*gasp* Rotom isn't?! He isn't.) Anyways what form could they have? Rotom had its fun w/appliances, Shaymin had its Flying form, what else could Game Freak think of?
I want a new form of Gyarados. He's a Flying/Water type right? Then he could be the "Terror of the Land" and be Ground/Grass. He could have this Earthworm appearance.

Ho-Oh May 13th, 2012 4:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenmoor (Post 7173926)
The forms will probably be limited to the Legendaries only. Or semi-legendary Pokemon like Rotom (*gasp* Rotom isn't?! He isn't.) Anyways what form could they have? Rotom had its fun w/appliances, Shaymin had its Flying form, what else could Game Freak think of?
I want a new form of Gyarados. He's a Flying/Water type right? Then he could be the "Terror of the Land" and be Ground/Grass. He could have this Earthworm appearance.

Oh hey I do want Rotom formes. Maybe uhhhh, electric/rock or something!

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Originally Posted by Zayphora (Post 7173690)
This is verrrrry farfetch'd, but...
What if the "starter secret" thing is that the STARTERS have new formes? Yes, I know this will probably never happen, but...They might be accessible only through event or something...

I hope not, I like how they look now :(

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Originally Posted by Kaori (Post 7173711)
If there had to be any more new forms, it would probably be given to Virizion, Terrakion, and Cobalion. They were shown in the game opening so you never know. Reshiram and Zekrom were shown in the intro too, but if they all have forms then GameFreak will definitely have overdone it.

Nooo I don't want a change to them. However it's not like anyone complained they were copy/paste, so perhaps they get away with it. :3

MegaKuriboh May 13th, 2012 5:01 PM

A Zen mode Darmanitan that doesn't suck?

What I mean abiut this is a Zen Mode Darmanitan that doesn't require activation, that it automatically has the switched stats without having to waste HP and having a useless ability otherwise.

Zen Mode Darmanitan right off the bat with Sheer Force would wreck :]

Sydian May 13th, 2012 5:09 PM

I don't want anymore formes. If anything had to get it though, I don't think they'd give another trio new forms though, contrary to what everyone else thinks. I think Victini would get one. I don't really want it to though. :( It's already super adorable. Don't ruin it plz.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 13th, 2012 5:44 PM

Victini seems Possible...though I would perfer for only one more Pokemon to get a forme and that's Keldeo as a Fire/Fighting so the four Musketeers can complete the Chinese element Pentagon...
I do think new formes are becoming a little over rated with these games...

Ho-Oh May 13th, 2012 5:58 PM

An electric/psychic Victini to match the legendary mascots? I could see that as kinda likely actually. I wanttttt.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 13th, 2012 6:07 PM

^ Why not give it an Ice/Psychic one two while we're at it xD
Though if Victini were to have a new forme I would perfer Fire/Dark, I imagine a Night Forme in which it's asleep, keeping an eerie purple glow from all the years it spent in darkness...

Ho-Oh May 13th, 2012 6:20 PM

Ooh I want an ice one (don't know how it would be designed though...) and dark would be awesome but that'd be boring - why not give electric some appreciation ;)

Xander Olivieri May 13th, 2012 6:31 PM

I dunno. Was the Place Holder Data from before now qualify as completely false information thanks to the Kami Trio? If so maybe we'll get more Form Changes. If not, then I don't forsee any other Form Changes appearing only because there was no other place holder data.

wombateiro May 13th, 2012 10:11 PM

That placeholder finding was not right from beginning, if you look at Arceus' and Meloetta's values. I think Keldeo should get underwater form because it's based on Kelpie.

echolocated May 13th, 2012 10:53 PM

I'd like some new Rotom formes, since he was in the first BW, you might be able to send him over to BW2 and use its new formes!
Though I can't think of any other appliances he could turn into. Blender Rotom, anyone?

Shiny Celebi May 14th, 2012 8:35 AM

Meh Im not sure more Unova Pokemon are getting new forms. While the Kami trio's forms were unexpected I dont think they plan to give every legendary a new form, that might be overkill. Id actually like if they didnt introduce any more new forms this gen, we already have Kyurem's 2 forms, The Kami trio's forms and Meloetta's Pirouette form.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 14th, 2012 7:39 PM

If you count them as Formes we have Genesect too (though it's mostly Aethestic). I would like to see some more Rotom though, maybe a ground/electric or steel/electric based on an electric drill.

Xander Olivieri May 14th, 2012 8:12 PM

A friend of mine, SoratheEliteOne, made a Chainsaw Rotom almost a year ago XD

http://z3.ifrm.com/217/28/0/e656912/e656912.png

Steel/Electric~


More Rotom Forms would be fun~

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 14th, 2012 8:14 PM

A chainsaw Rotom would be epic! Perhaps they could also make a Psychic/Electric based on a computer, giving Rotom the mind of a supercomputer which is why I think it matches psychic.

Ho-Oh May 14th, 2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7175926)
A chainsaw Rotom would be epic! Perhaps they could also make a Psychic/Electric based on a computer, giving Rotom the mind of a supercomputer which is why I think it matches psychic.

Nah I think psychic would be too complicated for Rotom. It's based on realistic appliances after all. XD;

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7175922)
A friend of mine, SoratheEliteOne, made a Chainsaw Rotom almost a year ago XD

http://z3.ifrm.com/217/28/0/e656912/e656912.png

Steel/Electric~

More Rotom Forms would be fun~

...I want :( Steel would also make sense considering it's usually an appliance!

Mr Cat Dog May 15th, 2012 3:12 AM

Though I do love Rotom and its forms, I do feel that there'd be diminishing returns if more and more were added to future games. Having said that, I believe that it's only the Rotom line that I think gets much benefit from additional forms. I've always felt that they're slightly gimmicky, for the most part - an excuse to get people to buy the 'third games' in each generation and a stab at individuality.

bwburke94 May 15th, 2012 2:00 PM

Rotom's never getting a Steel forme. It's not its debut generation anymore, and Electric/Steel with Levitate gives it 12 resistances, 2 immunities, and only 2 weaknesses.

SkyRyder May 15th, 2012 2:40 PM

Well, seeing as Meloetta is #299 in the Unova dex, I believe we might be seeing Genesect in the game as well as Pokemon #300.
What comes to my mind is maybe we'll venture more into detail about Genesect's history, since it was modified by Team Plasma. Maybe GF will include its original form in the game? That's the only Pokemon I can think of that fits the part of having another form.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire May 15th, 2012 2:46 PM

Wouldn't it's original forme be weaker though considering how Plasma was suppose to have made it stronger?
I do think that Genocect might get a new forme, being a weapon and all.

blue June 8th, 2012 4:42 AM

Pokémon Black 2 & White 2 - Keldeo Form?
With special thanks to our good friend Gin, we have learned that a bit of merchandise has listed Keldeo as being in its "Usual Forme". This indicates that Keldeo is to receive a new form within Black 2 & White 2. This factors in with hints from CoroCoro about Keldeo being engulfed in light during battle in the movie and its special power being revealed next month. We'll show information on if it will have a form when CoroCoro arrives in a few days

Could be a new Keledo forme or could just be a rumor.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 8th, 2012 7:32 AM

Well I've been expecting a new Keldeo forme for sometime. Keldeo seems quite young so it's possible that it will have a older forme that closely resembles the other members. I think it's true and not simply a rumor.

Xander Olivieri June 8th, 2012 4:27 PM

Right now that seems like a huge stretch to take. It looks like he said she said since even serebii is getting it second hand. His friend may have credit, but there can still be an error in translation. So its still just a rumor.

SkyRyder June 9th, 2012 12:01 AM

Seems that it has been confirmed, according to Serebii, that Keldeo will have an alternate forme, also known as its Resolution Forme. No pictures have been revealed yet, but until then, anyone have an idea on what it might look like?

Hikamaru June 9th, 2012 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by XSky RiderX (Post 7208370)
Seems that it has been confirmed, according to Serebii, that Keldeo will have an alternate forme, also known as its Resolution Forme. No pictures have been revealed yet, but until then, anyone have an idea on what it might look like?

I heard about this... let's hope it looks good.

My bet is that Keldeo will look pegasus-like with this new forme...

Ho-Oh June 9th, 2012 1:26 AM

Seriouslyyy? Ugh. It was nice when it was just "maybe" but now partially confirmed? I like Keldeo as it is tyvm. And we all know that if Keldeo gets a different forme then maybe Terrakion/Cobalion/Virizion will, since they're in the intro screen. I don't want them to turn out like Thundurus tyvm. Better not be ugly. :(

blue June 9th, 2012 3:31 AM

"Following yesterday's reveal of Keldeo's form, people at 2ch discovered a post on Shokotan's, the presenter of Pokémon Smash, blog detailing her astonishment at Keldeo's Resolution Forme (かくごのすがた). There are still currently no pictures but CoroCoro is due on Friday and could leak any time before them so keep checking back for confirmation of this name's authenticity and more"

I hope this isn't true, Keledo is fine as it is.. I'm only just warming to the Kami Trio new formes. I can't really imagine how they could change Keledo for the better?

marcc5m June 9th, 2012 3:34 AM

So. How long before they give Pikachu, Koffing and Wurmple alternate forms too?

Tropical Sunlight June 9th, 2012 4:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fireworks (Post 7208493)
So. How long before they give Pikachu, Koffing and Wurmple alternate forms too?

Don't forget Magikarp's God Forme. ;)

I'm kind of excited to see new formes; I just hope they won't be a part of some Japan-exclusive event.

mineox100 June 9th, 2012 5:01 AM

Pokemon getting so many new formes... maybe Reshiram, Zekrom, and the 3 Musketeers will be next. Or maybe they can surprise us and give us a new Castform forme! :P

Xander Olivieri June 9th, 2012 5:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSky RiderX (Post 7208370)
Seems that it has been confirmed, according to Serebii, that Keldeo will have an alternate forme, also known as its Resolution Forme. No pictures have been revealed yet, but until then, anyone have an idea on what it might look like?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7208487)
"Following yesterday's reveal of Keldeo's form, people at 2ch discovered a post on Shokotan's, the presenter of Pokémon Smash, blog detailing her astonishment at Keldeo's Resolution Forme (かくごのすがた). There are still currently no pictures but CoroCoro is due on Friday and could leak any time before them so keep checking back for confirmation of this name's authenticity and more"

I hope this isn't true, Keledo is fine as it is.. I'm only just warming to the Kami Trio new formes. I can't really imagine how they could change Keledo for the better?

Pokejungle now has the rumor posted, but is continuing to treat it like a rumor. I would urge everyone to think of it as such as well because...well remember the last coro coro when they said there was a new Professor? We got Burnette and she had nothing to do with the games. She wasn't even the one the rumor was about. Still, it hasn't been confirmed as of yet.

Pokejungle also says the two forms are called "Training Form", What Keldeo usually looks like, and "Valiant Form" his new form. We have two different translations for names which isn't that uncommon in rumors between Serebii and Pokejungle but since there isn't anything concrete I'm still gunna run this off as a rumor until Coro Coro comes out.

Guy June 9th, 2012 6:31 AM

Treating it as a rumor, I'm really hoping this "new Keldeo form" is proven false. While I think they can pull off a pretty cool design with it, given what we got with the Kami Trio, I'm just not as hopeful about it.

Quite frankly, GameFreak is beginning to push the limits a bit with the number of new forms they are introducing this generation and I really wish they wouldn't.

Dr.Kotov June 9th, 2012 7:02 AM

Can't do worse than the original Keldeo, so I'm actually in favour of seeing it 'grow up', or something to that effect. So that it at least rivals the one's it's supposed to succeed. Perhaps they meant it to look as if it hadn't matured.

Jellicent♀ June 9th, 2012 7:08 AM

I'm actually excited to see this. Yes, the amount of new forms they're revealing is a little ridiculous, but it's Pokemon, they have always been ridiculous. Quite frankly I think it'll even give Keldeo a boost of power, especially since he is supposed to surpass his masters. That, and I really don't think the others will have a new form. I mean, why would they? What would they get? An old age form? They have a story as the rescuers of Pokemon, Keldeo has a story much more involved than that, so it only makes sense that he would get a form. Hopefully, with a decent power boost.

ANinyMouse June 9th, 2012 7:08 AM

With the current method of how they make Pokemon games, though, adding new forms is the ONLY way to add in "new" Pokemon to future games in the same generation. They can't add them in from the start because everyone knows ALL the Pokemon contained in the game after the first few days the game is out, and then it spreads all over the internet from there. I mean, we knew about Arceus a couple years before it was officially revealed as a Pokemon, if I remember correctly.

So, they're trying to market a sequel to BW. It's going to have a very similar world to explore, it's going to have all the same Pokemon (more or less), and they added 150 of the same old Pokemon to spice it up a bit. In order to generate desire and hype for the new game, new Pokemon aren't just a perk, they're required. Even HGSS had the spikey Pichu.

The only frustrating thing is that some forms are only available during events. Heck, they even want you to spend $3 on the AR Searcher game to get the Tornadus, Thundurus and Landorus forms (which only works with the shiny, new, expensive 3DS).

Zayphora June 9th, 2012 7:19 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7208587)
Pokejungle also says the two forms are called "Training Form", What Keldeo usually looks like, and "Valiant Form" his new form. We have two different translations for names which isn't that uncommon in rumors between Serebii and Pokejungle but since there isn't anything concrete I'm still gunna run this off as a rumor until Coro Coro comes out.

Huh...Training Form. Does this have something to do with those guys in Challenger's Cave who say that there was a legendary there training another legendary?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 9th, 2012 8:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Zayphora (Post 7208664)
Huh...Training Form. Does this have something to do with those guys in Challenger's Cave who say that there was a legendary there training another legendary?

Yeah, it was pratically implied that it was Corbalion teaching Keldeo in that cave.
Hmm...remember how they told us to play with the Keldeo we get from the event? Well my guess is that it might have something to do with activating it's new forme...
Since the Poke smash person mentioned it in her blog it might appear in Pokesmash soon... also remember last time her tougue slipped she told us Zekrom was part electric...

Altairis June 9th, 2012 9:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7208630)
Quite frankly, GameFreak is beginning to push the limits a bit with the number of new forms they are introducing this generation and I really wish they wouldn't.

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Kyurem, Kami Trio, Keldeo, plus a lot of other features... it just seems like a lot of extras. If they can pull it off in game then I wouldn't mind. But it's possible that they just stuck them in randomly jsut to say "Look kids, Keldeo has a new form! Oh, buy our game, you can only use it here!" :/

SkyRyder June 10th, 2012 12:24 AM

I guess it's official now. Serebii has now posted an image containing its new forme, however we can only see its head. But it seems that it has only minor changes, such as a longer mane and a more defined blue horn.
To be honest, I'm not too thrilled about it either, I kind of stopped getting psyched for new formes since the Kami trio.

SolarAbusoru June 10th, 2012 1:24 AM

I don't see the problem with new forms, I mean it's not like you're forced to use em (cept for Kyurems, they seem permanent, sorta justified, being the cover legendary n all).
Plus it adds just that little bit of extra variety.

wombateiro June 10th, 2012 2:14 AM

It's awesome Keldeo will get new form. It looks like those three things on new Keldeo's mane represent three other Musketeers. Does it mean they will be involved in new form activation?

L.R. June 10th, 2012 2:24 AM

I think the additions of new formes are unnecessary features to boost the interest in the games. The new formes also tend to overshadow the regular formes. I expect Keldeo's "old" forme to be less powerful than the new one, making it significantly less useful. I would prefer them to make the Resolution Forme a bit more different in comparison to the regular one, not just stronger and with slight design changes.

BlankPoints June 10th, 2012 3:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7208630)

Quite frankly, GameFreak is beginning to push the limits a bit with the number of new forms they are introducing this generation and I really wish they wouldn't.

Do note that there are less forms introduced in Black 2 & White 2 than there were in Platinum. They're just spread across more Pokémon

Platinum (7)
Fan Rotom
Frost Rotom
Heat Rotom
Mow Rotom
Wash Rotom
Giratina Origin Forme
Shaymin Sky Forme

Black2/White2 (6)
Tornadus Sacred Beast Forme
Thundurus Sacred Beast Forme
Landorus Sacred Beast Forme
Black Kyurem
White kyurem
Keldeo Resolute Form

blue June 10th, 2012 5:11 AM

I wouldn't even call Keledo's "Forme" a forme at all, if anything it's just an extension on it's current features which is an elongated horn and mane.

Guy June 10th, 2012 5:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trask3000 (Post 7209417)
Do note that there are less forms introduced in Black 2 & White 2 than there were in Platinum. They're just spread across more Pokémon

Platinum (7)
Fan Rotom
Frost Rotom
Heat Rotom
Mow Rotom
Wash Rotom
Giratina Origin Forme
Shaymin Sky Forme

Black2/White2 (6)
Tornadus Sacred Beast Forme
Thundurus Sacred Beast Forme
Landorus Sacred Beast Forme
Black Kyurem
White kyurem
Keldeo Resolute Form

Don't forget Meloetta and her Piroquette Form as Black and White and B2W2 are still within the same generation.

I feel like you hit the nail on the head when you said they're spreading it across more Pokémon now compared to before, as that's exactly my point. Platinum only gave us three Pokémon who had the ability to change forms. Here we have six Pokémon who have this ability and I just feel like GameFreak is going a little bit overboard with the idea, and I'm afraid they'll only continue to do so in future generations to come. I don't know maybe it's just me, but that's just how I see it. What was once a cool concept that began with Deoxys now just feels like a cheap way to give buyers some reason to buy a new game. Even though it has always been used as a selling point, it feels more like it now than before.

I know we can only see Keldeo's head in the cover scan, but other than a few aesthetic changes to Keldeo's design it looks like very little effort was put into this new "Resolution form." I can definitely see its mentors playing a part in its transformation though, given the three extensive colors on its mane representing Cobalion, Terrakion, and Virizion. Other than that, a likely power boost to go with it and maybe a new ability, it's nothing to write home about in my opinion.

wombateiro June 10th, 2012 5:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Suicune™ (Post 7209492)
I wouldn't even call Keledo's "Forme" a forme at all, if anything it's just an extension on it's current features which is an elongated horn and mane.

No matter how you will call it - extension or something, it's new form. Every change of current Pokemon introduced in the same generation is new form, no matter how much is changed. Also it's not wise to judge after seeing only small part of new form.

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Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7209516)

Don't forget Meloetta and her Piroquette Form as Black and White and B2W2 are still within the same generation.

This form shouldn't be counted because it's available in original B/W.

PlatinumDude June 10th, 2012 5:55 AM

I'm not liking Keldeo's new forme at all. I mean, it just has a bigger horn and mane with no other drastic changes.

I was also expecting Keldeo to look a bit more like the other musketeers, but I was so disappointed when I saw the new forme.

Ho-Oh June 10th, 2012 6:00 AM

Um... yeah so this isn't terrible, but still. Keldeo was nice before, why change the pretty pony and give it more references to MLP?! Also why not reveal this earlier when there was the big thing about Keldeo as a whole... but the fact that you couldn't even get it in B/W like normal leading up to this and now they announce it for B2W2, that's kinda weird.

Guy June 10th, 2012 6:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wombateiro (Post 7209521)
This form shouldn't be counted because it's available in original B/W.

In my first post before that, I was referring to GameFreak's use of alternate Pokémon forms in the fifth generation as a whole and not just in B2W2, which is why I did include it.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 10th, 2012 9:19 AM

Well it does seem kind of older, I like it (what's shown) ^_^
I'm thinking that the three Muskeeters will surround it like in BW only this time instead of a new move it'll gain a new forme.
So think Victini will get one?

voicerocker June 10th, 2012 9:33 AM

When the new Keldeo forme was first announced, I was actually somewhat disappointed. Everyone assumed it would get a "more mature, adult" forme, which I felt just didn't feel was right for Keldeo. I'm extremely happy with what Game Freak did instead. Keldeo still holds on to the aspect of being the "youngster" but the new horn shows it can hold its own in battle like the other Musketeers.

Xander Olivieri June 10th, 2012 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7208630)
Quite frankly, GameFreak is beginning to push the limits a bit with the number of new forms they are introducing this generation and I really wish they wouldn't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trask3000 (Post 7209417)
Do note that there are less forms introduced in Black 2 & White 2 than there were in Platinum. They're just spread across more Pokémon

Platinum (7)
Fan Rotom
Frost Rotom
Heat Rotom
Mow Rotom
Wash Rotom
Giratina Origin Forme
Shaymin Sky Forme

Black2/White2 (6)
Tornadus Sacred Beast Forme
Thundurus Sacred Beast Forme
Landorus Sacred Beast Forme
Black Kyurem
White kyurem
Keldeo Resolute Form

Well since Aerilyn said per generation, you have more Pokemon to add to the numbers.

Darmanitan Zen Mode
Meloetta Pirouette Form

Though Gen 4 wise you have to count their aesthetic changes as well.
Burmy Leaf Cloak
Burmy Sand Cloak
Burmy Trash Cloak

These three are aesthetic changes for Burmy that has it evolve into the same Pokemon in different forms.

Cherrim Sunny Form

Though this is just an aesthetic change like Keldeo's Cherrim goes from her covered up flower to a blooming flower.

Gen 3 Only introduced two Pokemon that could Change form
Deoxys and Castform. Which has 8 Forms for Generation 3, 6 if you do not count Original forms.

So really we haven't gotten that many more than when they first started adding forms.

mineox100 June 10th, 2012 11:01 AM

I guess people are OK with normal formes, but not with legendary formes, that's why no one cared about the other forms like Cherrim, etc.

Jellicent♀ June 10th, 2012 11:07 AM

"The first image of CoroCoro's cover has been revealed and has shown Keldeo's Resolution Form. This form is only a slight change to Keldeo's appearance but features a long blue horn and a longer mane." - Serebii.



It...meh, is a little disappointing. I was hoping for more than this. I was hoping for like, a more adult look to it. Like a Rapidash effect or something. Idk, I LIKE IT, but I wish it was a little more. :c

wombateiro June 10th, 2012 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7209546)

In my first post before that, I was referring to GameFreak's use of alternate Pokémon forms in the fifth generation as a whole and not just in B2W2, which is why I did include it.

But you replied to Trask3000's post about form introduced only in later versions (Platinum and B2/W2). That's why I said Meloetta shouldn't be counted because it's form is already available in original B/W. You don't need to buy B2/W2 to get new form of Meloetta.

Also, new forms of Kami Trio can be caught from one source (Dream Radar) without even having original Kami Trio members caught. From that point of view, those forms work like Rotom forms - all are available at once. The only difference is that you have to spend more time playing to get them.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 10th, 2012 11:21 AM

I'm hoping the rest or Keldeo looks taller and larger at least a mid sized pony.

SolarAbusoru June 10th, 2012 12:37 PM

First off, Keldeo is a Foal, aka infant horse, not a pony.
secondly, and this is wishful Thinking, I am hoping for this form to be bipedal, it'd add that little bit more neatness to it and make it more of a change.
I've created my own prediction for the form, IF it is bipedal.

Guy June 10th, 2012 1:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7209724)
Well since Aerilyn said per generation, you have more Pokemon to add to the numbers.

Darmanitan Zen Mode
Meloetta Pirouette Form

Though Gen 4 wise you have to count their aesthetic changes as well.
Burmy Leaf Cloak
Burmy Sand Cloak
Burmy Trash Cloak

These three are aesthetic changes for Burmy that has it evolve into the same Pokemon in different forms.

Cherrim Sunny Form

Though this is just an aesthetic change like Keldeo's Cherrim goes from her covered up flower to a blooming flower.

Gen 3 Only introduced two Pokemon that could Change form
Deoxys and Castform. Which has 8 Forms for Generation 3, 6 if you do not count Original forms.

So really we haven't gotten that many more than when they first started adding forms.

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Originally Posted by mineox100 (Post 7209736)
I guess people are OK with normal formes, but not with legendary formes, that's why no one cared about the other forms like Cherrim, etc.

What Mineox said. The forms I'm more referring to are those that go beyond just a change in appearance, but stat or ability changes too such as those mentioned by Trask3000. Other forms that just change appearance (i.e. Sawsbuck, Castform, etc.) really aren't a big deal. So, yes, Womadam's forms would be considered another for DPPt.

However, I forgot about Darmanitan being included in the prior list, because when it goes into its Zen Mode, its stats and ability are changed. So that's one more to add to Gen V's use of alternate forms in terms of more than just aesthetic changes.

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Originally Posted by wombateiro (Post 7209758)
But you replied to Trask3000's post about form introduced only in later versions (Platinum and B2/W2). That's why I said Meloetta shouldn't be counted because it's form is already available in original B/W. You don't need to buy B2/W2 to get new form of Meloetta.

Also, new forms of Kami Trio can be caught from one source (Dream Radar) without even having original Kami Trio members caught. From that point of view, those forms work like Rotom forms - all are available at once. The only difference is that you have to spend more time playing to get them.

...and before that he replied to my post referring to the forms of Gen V overall and not just specific to B2W2 alone.

It's not really a big deal if I'm honest, but speaking just for myself, I'd personally prefer it if GameFreak kept the alternate forms for Pokémon to a minimum rather than go overboard with it. Next thing we know, Gen VI could be shrouded with even more than we're getting now. I liked it more when people viewed the different forms as a unique factor. Now it's become something that's to be expected.

I just hope Keldeo's form is the last one they are adding for B2W2. I really wouldn't like it for Genesect to get his own form too. It'd definitely be a bit too much with no real reason to warrant one if they went down that road in my opinion.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 10th, 2012 2:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7209848)


What Mineox said. The forms I'm more referring to are those that go beyond just a change in appearance, but stat or ability changes too such as those mentioned by Trask3000. Other forms that just change appearance (i.e. Sawsbuck, Castform, etc.) really aren't a big deal. So, yes, Womadam's forms would be considered another for DPPt.

However, I forgot about Darmanitan being included in the prior list, because when it goes into its Zen Mode, its stats and ability are changed. So that's one more to add to Gen V's use of alternate forms in terms of more than just aesthetic changes.


...and before that he replied to my post referring to the forms of Gen V overall and not just specific to B2W2 alone.

It's not really a big deal if I'm honest, but speaking just for myself, I'd personally prefer it if GameFreak kept the alternate forms for Pokémon to a minimum rather than go overboard with it. Next thing we know, Gen VI could be shrouded with even more than we're getting now. I liked it more when people viewed the different forms as a unique factor. Now it's become something that's to be expected.

I just hope Keldeo's form is the last one they are adding for B2W2. I really wouldn't like it for Genesect to get his own form too. It'd definitely be a bit too much with no real reason to warrant one if they went down that road in my opinion.


Uh Castform changes typing too though... so it's not only aesthestic

Anyways back on topic it could be possible that Genosect might have another forme since it's kind of a robot, maybe it has a mecha like transformation...

Guy June 10th, 2012 4:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7209943)
Uh Castform changes typing too though... so it's not only aesthestic

Anyways back on topic it could be possible that Genosect might have another forme since it's kind of a robot, maybe it has a mecha like transformation...

Completely forgot that Castform changed its typing, but you got what I meant anyway!

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if they pulled out a new form for Genesect, but I'm really hoping that they don't.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 10th, 2012 5:12 PM

Considering that Genosect isn't revealed yet they could make a new forme and keep it hidden for awhile.
I hope they tell us how to get the new Keldeo forme since they're suppose to mention how Kyurem changes formes (in game) in this Corocoro issue.

Bluerang1 June 10th, 2012 6:11 PM

I called Keldeo's New Forme from day 1! I knew they'd be a forme of it that'd look stronger like the Musketeer trio. From what we've seen, it still looks young though.

Xander Olivieri June 10th, 2012 6:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7209848)



What Mineox said. The forms I'm more referring to are those that go beyond just a change in appearance, but stat or ability changes too such as those mentioned by Trask3000. Other forms that just change appearance (i.e. Sawsbuck, Castform, etc.) really aren't a big deal. So, yes, Womadam's forms would be considered another for DPPt.

However, I forgot about Darmanitan being included in the prior list, because when it goes into its Zen Mode, its stats and ability are changed. So that's one more to add to Gen V's use of alternate forms in terms of more than just aesthetic changes.


...and before that he replied to my post referring to the forms of Gen V overall and not just specific to B2W2 alone.

It's not really a big deal if I'm honest, but speaking just for myself, I'd personally prefer it if GameFreak kept the alternate forms for Pokémon to a minimum rather than go overboard with it. Next thing we know, Gen VI could be shrouded with even more than we're getting now. I liked it more when people viewed the different forms as a unique factor. Now it's become something that's to be expected.

I just hope Keldeo's form is the last one they are adding for B2W2. I really wouldn't like it for Genesect to get his own form too. It'd definitely be a bit too much with no real reason to warrant one if they went down that road in my opinion.

According to pokejungle before, Keldeo's form change was aesthetic only. It retained its type and current stats.

Perriechu June 10th, 2012 8:04 PM

I'm not too hyped about Keldeo's new forme. It's not hugely brilliant. Although I am judging from the small image we have. I don't think the type will change, the base stats will probably change with the offenses being altered. Since Keldeo is special attack oriented, it'll change to attack.

Ho-Oh June 10th, 2012 8:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SolarAbusoru (Post 7209823)
First off, Keldeo is a Foal, aka infant horse, not a pony.
secondly, and this is wishful Thinking, I am hoping for this form to be bipedal, it'd add that little bit more neatness to it and make it more of a change.
I've created my own prediction for the form, IF it is bipedal.

Oh yeah um, I really don't want it to stand, considering ponies/horses (STILL IS A PONY TO MEEEE) usually... Don't, lol.

FrozenInfernoZX June 10th, 2012 8:21 PM

I can understand why some people may think that these new pokemon "Formes" are getting out of hand, but I feel that Pokemon is pokemon. Pokemon is so expansive and adding new formes and such is just a welcome addition. I like to pick and choose the pokemon for my team. I like dual typed 3rd staged pokemon. I welcome these new formes and it's just giving us more options whether we use them or not.

JudgeDreddigon June 10th, 2012 10:24 PM

I find forme changes ok, but I absolutely love them when they have a story to go along with. The forme changes for kyurem, the genie trio, and keldeo are looking to having a rich back story, so I think it's awesome. I think it's too much when they just start making formes for anything, but it seems they had all these formes planned since bw.

Treecko June 10th, 2012 10:52 PM

I'm not too jazzed about Keldeo's new form. With the Kami trio's forms though, I was a little more ecstatic about , but it seems to me with Keldeo's they're just throwing more formes for no real purpose. I don't think I want any more, the ones we have are good enough.

So far it's Resolution form looks like the Usual form but with a little extra features. Though, I may be wrong on that since the full hasn't been revealed yet. Maybe the rest of the body will have aesthetic changes. I'm hoping it has body features similar to the musketeers, but shorter.

Guy June 11th, 2012 6:09 AM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7210120)
According to pokejungle before, Keldeo's form change was aesthetic only. It retained its type and current stats.

I find it hard to believe Keldeo wouldn't at least get a boost in its Attack stat with the new form. That has always seemed likely to me. It seems rather pointless of GameFreak to give Keldeo a new form if its only getting a very slight change in its appearance, especially given its legendary status and the big promotion Keldeo is getting with the upcoming movie and now its new form.

I know I said GameFreak is going a little overboard with all the new forms lately, but if they're going to do it, specifically with a legendary, they might as well go all out with it for the most part. I guess we'll learn more about it and determine whether this is true or not as we start to get more of the CoroCoro scans within week though.

blue June 11th, 2012 6:15 AM

To be honest, I liked Keledo as it was and IMO it didn't really need an improvement.. it's stats are fine and it's appearance is great. They're really trying to make the most of this forme debacle by adding it to almost every legendary but sometimes it just doesn't work.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 11th, 2012 8:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Aerilyn (Post 7210581)
I find it hard to believe Keldeo wouldn't at least get a boost in its Attack stat with the new form. That has always seemed likely to me. It seems rather pointless of GameFreak to give Keldeo a new form if its only getting a very slight change in its appearance, especially given its legendary status and the big promotion Keldeo is getting with the upcoming movie and now its new form.

I know I said GameFreak is going a little overboard with all the new forms lately, but if they're going to do it, specifically with a legendary, they might as well go all out with it for the most part. I guess we'll learn more about it and determine whether this is true or not as we start to get more of the CoroCoro scans within week though.

I agree, it'll be a waste of a forme, it's not even something like Sawsbuck who's gimmick is seasons or Genosect who has the discs. Hopefully it does gain some additional stats,I'm hoping that it'll be slightly higher than the trio to show that it has surpassed them.

Ho-Oh June 11th, 2012 8:13 AM

Well I know Terrakion has that mega-high attack so possibly Keldeo will get a sPA boost because iirc Cobalion's isn't amazIngly high.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 11th, 2012 9:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Requility (Post 7210682)
Well I know Terrakion has that mega-high attack so possibly Keldeo will get a sPA boost because iirc Cobalion's isn't amazIngly high.

Or Perhaps it'll change to speed seeing how each of the Muskeeters so far specialize in a certain stat, Colbalion having Defense, Terrakion having Attack, Virizion having Special Defense, and Training Keldeo forme having Special Attack, leaving speed behing the only option seeing how HP doesn't change with formes with the exception of Rotom.

Bluerang1 June 11th, 2012 4:08 PM

^What he said. The New Forme will have whatever one of the Musketeer's doesn't have a high stat in and Keldeo will use that to defeat Kyurem.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 11th, 2012 4:18 PM

If it's speed than could that mean that Kyurem's slow though? Then again most of the trio is quite slow...with Kyurem itself being the fastest...

Raichupacabra June 11th, 2012 6:27 PM

Kyurem, the genies and Keldeo are probably the only Pokemon that are going to have new forms. Also, the whole trio's speed is equal so the only option would be HP. SO they would probably lower a stat and raise one of his Attack stats.

Mr Cat Dog June 12th, 2012 4:03 AM

Yay, new formes. Especially involving Keldeo! 'Cause that's what the fans really want to see! [/sarcasm] According to Serebii, it changes its Forme in a forest near Sangl Town but I really don't care, you guys. Really. Don't. Care.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 12th, 2012 8:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Raichupacabra (Post 7211222)
Kyurem, the genies and Keldeo are probably the only Pokemon that are going to have new forms. Also, the whole trio's speed is equal so the only option would be HP. SO they would probably lower a stat and raise one of his Attack stats.

Hp rarely changes though unless they do something like Rotom with it's formes.
I wonder if this new forest was part of Icirus' forest at one point, the same forest the Muskeeter's used to live in.

Ho-Oh June 12th, 2012 8:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Cat Dog (Post 7211528)
Yay, new formes. Especially involving Keldeo! 'Cause that's what the fans really want to see! [/sarcasm] According to Serebii, it changes its Forme in a forest near Sangl Town but I really don't care, you guys. Really. Don't. Care.

Yeah I read about that and that sounds like a really boring way to change formes. An event, sure, an item, sure, a location, nah. Probably because I'm thinking quite negatively about it, that it won't have much of a backstory to change forme there. XD;

Xander Olivieri June 12th, 2012 8:45 PM

Oh right...Did we post the newest info here yet? Guess not, though if I'm wrong oh well.

In Form Featuring news~

Keldeo changes form in a Forest near the second City in New Unova. So its a Locational Form Change much like Giratina, Burmy, and in some degree Castform/Deerling/Sawsbuck.

The Kami Trio "Can" change form with the help of some unknown item, whether it be a Key Item like Shaymin, or a Hold Item like Giratina, I don't know. Although you can still catch the new Kami Trio forms through the Dream Radar exclusively.

(still don't know if the item changes them from Incarnation form to Sacred Beast form or vice versa. The reverse would be cool though possible it can do both, even though then that makes the Sacred beast Forms "being exclusive to Dream Radar" a blatant lie cause they obviously won't be if you can change them by an item received in game.)

Bluerang1 June 12th, 2012 8:55 PM

Keldeo's Resolution forme is pretty bad. I expected boot-hooves.

Ho-Oh June 12th, 2012 9:00 PM

Ooh, I actually like Keldeo's full forme more than I like its normal forme, so yay! However wait from the screenshot, does that mean the spirits of Virizion/Cobalion/Terrakion are involved in summoning it, or do you need to have all three, I wonder. OR DOES IT UNLOCK THOSE?

Edit: just saw about needing the other three to change the forme I guess that makes sense.

Xander Olivieri June 12th, 2012 9:21 PM

Says on Pokejungle that all three need to be in your party to change Keldeo's form.

and the Item for the Kami is a Hold Item called Reverse Mirror.

Keldeo reminds me of Umichika from Bleach XD

Treecko June 12th, 2012 9:24 PM

Well in July's CoroCoro there's scans of Keldeo's new Resolution forme.
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/3/34/CoroCoro_July_2012_Keldeo.png
I'm a little disappointed that there wasn't much changes to it Usual Forme. I was expecting that the scan of the forme on the cover was hiding changes for it's body, but they stay unchanged. :(

Xander Olivieri June 12th, 2012 9:28 PM

Kinda makes sense that the body wouldn't change much if they don't change its stats like the rumor says.

Ho-Oh June 12th, 2012 9:31 PM

I noticed with this new forme it looks kinda more noble, or more brave, does anyone else get that impression from its design?

Xander Olivieri June 12th, 2012 9:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Requility (Post 7212536)
I noticed with this new forme it looks kinda more noble, or more brave, does anyone else get that impression from its design?

This is all I see when I look at Keldeo:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080811231150/bleach/en/images/archive/1/1e/20080823083611!Yumichika.jpg

Ho-Oh June 12th, 2012 9:41 PM

Pfft @ random anime characters. I just like how its hoof is lifted and it's looking upwards, looks like it has a purpose whereas its other forme just looks kinda boring because it's just standing there. :x

Treecko June 12th, 2012 9:44 PM

@XanderO That's what I'm thinking!
And I really like the new horn, never said I hated it, just sort of disappointed. I guess it will grow on me, cause like Nica said , it sort looks more royal.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 12th, 2012 10:06 PM

I agree with Requility, my first impression after seeing it's full body was it seems more norble with the hair in front of it looking more regal and it's stand.

Jellicent♀ June 12th, 2012 10:09 PM

@ XanderO: ...no. xD

I agree with Nica. I actually like the form now that I can see the whole thing. it looks more noble, brave, and powerful. Like it has finally graduated from being an apprentice musketeer, to a full time hero.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 12th, 2012 10:10 PM

Even it's eyes look tougher. I do wonder how do you change it back to the old form...or could this new forme be permanent!

tokyodrift June 12th, 2012 10:13 PM

I too agree with Requility. It's new additions give it more of a royal look.

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7212593)
Even it's eyes look tougher. I do wonder how do you change it back to the old form...or could this new forme be permanent!

I don't think it will be permanent. I think it will be more like Giratina and have a hold item that keeps it in that forme when away from the location where it changes.


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