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Even more new Formes?
We got two new Kyurem formes while most of us expected one. New formes for the God trio which no one expected! Do you think there will be new formes for the rest of the legendary Pokemon, or even non legendary Pokemon? Which one's would you like to see new forme's of?
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This is verrrrry farfetch'd, but...
What if the "starter secret" thing is that the STARTERS have new formes? Yes, I know this will probably never happen, but...They might be accessible only through event or something... |
If there had to be any more new forms, it would probably be given to Virizion, Terrakion, and Cobalion. They were shown in the game opening so you never know. Reshiram and Zekrom were shown in the intro too, but if they all have forms then GameFreak will definitely have overdone it.
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I agree it would probably be the Virizion, Terrakion, and Cobalion trio, but I could see Victini too. But I would like to see more elemental monkeys, although that might necessarily be classified as new formes. I really don't like the Zekrom and Reshiram fusions; the designs are very messy with all of the different concepts going on. The god trio does make sense though, transforming Gods into animals to oversee the planet more directly. The meoletta formes also make sense with the enchanting singer, and athletic dancer.
Bottom line: I hope there are not any more formes. But there probably will be. |
What if the starter secret is that the starters are the Kanto Starters? Anyways, I prefer all the new formes to the old ones, and If anyone else get a new forme, I'd like it to be Archeops into the exact same thing without Defeatist.
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I agree with the musketeer trio getting the formes, if there are any more. But like Kaori said, if they all have new formes then it's certainly overkill. I'd like to see a new forme to Basculin. But this forme should be different, like type and such. Since the climate changes in Unova, it could be Water/Ice and have new stats/moves which could make it usable.
what's this 'starter secret'? |
Since when is Landrous and friends the "God" Pokemon? Thought they were the 3 genies.
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The forms will probably be limited to the Legendaries only. Or semi-legendary Pokemon like Rotom (*gasp* Rotom isn't?! He isn't.) Anyways what form could they have? Rotom had its fun w/appliances, Shaymin had its Flying form, what else could Game Freak think of?
I want a new form of Gyarados. He's a Flying/Water type right? Then he could be the "Terror of the Land" and be Ground/Grass. He could have this Earthworm appearance. |
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A Zen mode Darmanitan that doesn't suck?
What I mean abiut this is a Zen Mode Darmanitan that doesn't require activation, that it automatically has the switched stats without having to waste HP and having a useless ability otherwise. Zen Mode Darmanitan right off the bat with Sheer Force would wreck :] |
I don't want anymore formes. If anything had to get it though, I don't think they'd give another trio new forms though, contrary to what everyone else thinks. I think Victini would get one. I don't really want it to though. :( It's already super adorable. Don't ruin it plz.
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Victini seems Possible...though I would perfer for only one more Pokemon to get a forme and that's Keldeo as a Fire/Fighting so the four Musketeers can complete the Chinese element Pentagon...
I do think new formes are becoming a little over rated with these games... |
An electric/psychic Victini to match the legendary mascots? I could see that as kinda likely actually. I wanttttt.
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^ Why not give it an Ice/Psychic one two while we're at it xD
Though if Victini were to have a new forme I would perfer Fire/Dark, I imagine a Night Forme in which it's asleep, keeping an eerie purple glow from all the years it spent in darkness... |
Ooh I want an ice one (don't know how it would be designed though...) and dark would be awesome but that'd be boring - why not give electric some appreciation ;)
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I dunno. Was the Place Holder Data from before now qualify as completely false information thanks to the Kami Trio? If so maybe we'll get more Form Changes. If not, then I don't forsee any other Form Changes appearing only because there was no other place holder data.
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That placeholder finding was not right from beginning, if you look at Arceus' and Meloetta's values. I think Keldeo should get underwater form because it's based on Kelpie.
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I'd like some new Rotom formes, since he was in the first BW, you might be able to send him over to BW2 and use its new formes!
Though I can't think of any other appliances he could turn into. Blender Rotom, anyone? |
Meh Im not sure more Unova Pokemon are getting new forms. While the Kami trio's forms were unexpected I dont think they plan to give every legendary a new form, that might be overkill. Id actually like if they didnt introduce any more new forms this gen, we already have Kyurem's 2 forms, The Kami trio's forms and Meloetta's Pirouette form.
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If you count them as Formes we have Genesect too (though it's mostly Aethestic). I would like to see some more Rotom though, maybe a ground/electric or steel/electric based on an electric drill.
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A friend of mine, SoratheEliteOne, made a Chainsaw Rotom almost a year ago XD
http://z3.ifrm.com/217/28/0/e656912/e656912.png Steel/Electric~ More Rotom Forms would be fun~ |
A chainsaw Rotom would be epic! Perhaps they could also make a Psychic/Electric based on a computer, giving Rotom the mind of a supercomputer which is why I think it matches psychic.
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Though I do love Rotom and its forms, I do feel that there'd be diminishing returns if more and more were added to future games. Having said that, I believe that it's only the Rotom line that I think gets much benefit from additional forms. I've always felt that they're slightly gimmicky, for the most part - an excuse to get people to buy the 'third games' in each generation and a stab at individuality.
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Rotom's never getting a Steel forme. It's not its debut generation anymore, and Electric/Steel with Levitate gives it 12 resistances, 2 immunities, and only 2 weaknesses.
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Well, seeing as Meloetta is #299 in the Unova dex, I believe we might be seeing Genesect in the game as well as Pokemon #300.
What comes to my mind is maybe we'll venture more into detail about Genesect's history, since it was modified by Team Plasma. Maybe GF will include its original form in the game? That's the only Pokemon I can think of that fits the part of having another form. |
Wouldn't it's original forme be weaker though considering how Plasma was suppose to have made it stronger?
I do think that Genocect might get a new forme, being a weapon and all. |
Pokémon Black 2 & White 2 - Keldeo Form?
With special thanks to our good friend Gin, we have learned that a bit of merchandise has listed Keldeo as being in its "Usual Forme". This indicates that Keldeo is to receive a new form within Black 2 & White 2. This factors in with hints from CoroCoro about Keldeo being engulfed in light during battle in the movie and its special power being revealed next month. We'll show information on if it will have a form when CoroCoro arrives in a few days Could be a new Keledo forme or could just be a rumor. |
Well I've been expecting a new Keldeo forme for sometime. Keldeo seems quite young so it's possible that it will have a older forme that closely resembles the other members. I think it's true and not simply a rumor.
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Right now that seems like a huge stretch to take. It looks like he said she said since even serebii is getting it second hand. His friend may have credit, but there can still be an error in translation. So its still just a rumor.
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Seems that it has been confirmed, according to Serebii, that Keldeo will have an alternate forme, also known as its Resolution Forme. No pictures have been revealed yet, but until then, anyone have an idea on what it might look like?
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My bet is that Keldeo will look pegasus-like with this new forme... |
Seriouslyyy? Ugh. It was nice when it was just "maybe" but now partially confirmed? I like Keldeo as it is tyvm. And we all know that if Keldeo gets a different forme then maybe Terrakion/Cobalion/Virizion will, since they're in the intro screen. I don't want them to turn out like Thundurus tyvm. Better not be ugly. :(
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"Following yesterday's reveal of Keldeo's form, people at 2ch discovered a post on Shokotan's, the presenter of Pokémon Smash, blog detailing her astonishment at Keldeo's Resolution Forme (かくごのすがた). There are still currently no pictures but CoroCoro is due on Friday and could leak any time before them so keep checking back for confirmation of this name's authenticity and more"
I hope this isn't true, Keledo is fine as it is.. I'm only just warming to the Kami Trio new formes. I can't really imagine how they could change Keledo for the better? |
So. How long before they give Pikachu, Koffing and Wurmple alternate forms too?
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I'm kind of excited to see new formes; I just hope they won't be a part of some Japan-exclusive event. |
Pokemon getting so many new formes... maybe Reshiram, Zekrom, and the 3 Musketeers will be next. Or maybe they can surprise us and give us a new Castform forme! :P
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Pokejungle also says the two forms are called "Training Form", What Keldeo usually looks like, and "Valiant Form" his new form. We have two different translations for names which isn't that uncommon in rumors between Serebii and Pokejungle but since there isn't anything concrete I'm still gunna run this off as a rumor until Coro Coro comes out. |
Treating it as a rumor, I'm really hoping this "new Keldeo form" is proven false. While I think they can pull off a pretty cool design with it, given what we got with the Kami Trio, I'm just not as hopeful about it.
Quite frankly, GameFreak is beginning to push the limits a bit with the number of new forms they are introducing this generation and I really wish they wouldn't. |
Can't do worse than the original Keldeo, so I'm actually in favour of seeing it 'grow up', or something to that effect. So that it at least rivals the one's it's supposed to succeed. Perhaps they meant it to look as if it hadn't matured.
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I'm actually excited to see this. Yes, the amount of new forms they're revealing is a little ridiculous, but it's Pokemon, they have always been ridiculous. Quite frankly I think it'll even give Keldeo a boost of power, especially since he is supposed to surpass his masters. That, and I really don't think the others will have a new form. I mean, why would they? What would they get? An old age form? They have a story as the rescuers of Pokemon, Keldeo has a story much more involved than that, so it only makes sense that he would get a form. Hopefully, with a decent power boost.
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With the current method of how they make Pokemon games, though, adding new forms is the ONLY way to add in "new" Pokemon to future games in the same generation. They can't add them in from the start because everyone knows ALL the Pokemon contained in the game after the first few days the game is out, and then it spreads all over the internet from there. I mean, we knew about Arceus a couple years before it was officially revealed as a Pokemon, if I remember correctly.
So, they're trying to market a sequel to BW. It's going to have a very similar world to explore, it's going to have all the same Pokemon (more or less), and they added 150 of the same old Pokemon to spice it up a bit. In order to generate desire and hype for the new game, new Pokemon aren't just a perk, they're required. Even HGSS had the spikey Pichu. The only frustrating thing is that some forms are only available during events. Heck, they even want you to spend $3 on the AR Searcher game to get the Tornadus, Thundurus and Landorus forms (which only works with the shiny, new, expensive 3DS). |
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Hmm...remember how they told us to play with the Keldeo we get from the event? Well my guess is that it might have something to do with activating it's new forme... Since the Poke smash person mentioned it in her blog it might appear in Pokesmash soon... also remember last time her tougue slipped she told us Zekrom was part electric... |
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I guess it's official now. Serebii has now posted an image containing its new forme, however we can only see its head. But it seems that it has only minor changes, such as a longer mane and a more defined blue horn.
To be honest, I'm not too thrilled about it either, I kind of stopped getting psyched for new formes since the Kami trio. |
I don't see the problem with new forms, I mean it's not like you're forced to use em (cept for Kyurems, they seem permanent, sorta justified, being the cover legendary n all).
Plus it adds just that little bit of extra variety. |
It's awesome Keldeo will get new form. It looks like those three things on new Keldeo's mane represent three other Musketeers. Does it mean they will be involved in new form activation?
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I think the additions of new formes are unnecessary features to boost the interest in the games. The new formes also tend to overshadow the regular formes. I expect Keldeo's "old" forme to be less powerful than the new one, making it significantly less useful. I would prefer them to make the Resolution Forme a bit more different in comparison to the regular one, not just stronger and with slight design changes.
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Platinum (7) Fan Rotom Frost Rotom Heat Rotom Mow Rotom Wash Rotom Giratina Origin Forme Shaymin Sky Forme Black2/White2 (6) Tornadus Sacred Beast Forme Thundurus Sacred Beast Forme Landorus Sacred Beast Forme Black Kyurem White kyurem Keldeo Resolute Form |
I wouldn't even call Keledo's "Forme" a forme at all, if anything it's just an extension on it's current features which is an elongated horn and mane.
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I feel like you hit the nail on the head when you said they're spreading it across more Pokémon now compared to before, as that's exactly my point. Platinum only gave us three Pokémon who had the ability to change forms. Here we have six Pokémon who have this ability and I just feel like GameFreak is going a little bit overboard with the idea, and I'm afraid they'll only continue to do so in future generations to come. I don't know maybe it's just me, but that's just how I see it. What was once a cool concept that began with Deoxys now just feels like a cheap way to give buyers some reason to buy a new game. Even though it has always been used as a selling point, it feels more like it now than before. I know we can only see Keldeo's head in the cover scan, but other than a few aesthetic changes to Keldeo's design it looks like very little effort was put into this new "Resolution form." I can definitely see its mentors playing a part in its transformation though, given the three extensive colors on its mane representing Cobalion, Terrakion, and Virizion. Other than that, a likely power boost to go with it and maybe a new ability, it's nothing to write home about in my opinion. |
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I'm not liking Keldeo's new forme at all. I mean, it just has a bigger horn and mane with no other drastic changes.
I was also expecting Keldeo to look a bit more like the other musketeers, but I was so disappointed when I saw the new forme. |
Um... yeah so this isn't terrible, but still. Keldeo was nice before, why change the pretty pony and give it more references to MLP?! Also why not reveal this earlier when there was the big thing about Keldeo as a whole... but the fact that you couldn't even get it in B/W like normal leading up to this and now they announce it for B2W2, that's kinda weird.
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Well it does seem kind of older, I like it (what's shown) ^_^
I'm thinking that the three Muskeeters will surround it like in BW only this time instead of a new move it'll gain a new forme. So think Victini will get one? |
When the new Keldeo forme was first announced, I was actually somewhat disappointed. Everyone assumed it would get a "more mature, adult" forme, which I felt just didn't feel was right for Keldeo. I'm extremely happy with what Game Freak did instead. Keldeo still holds on to the aspect of being the "youngster" but the new horn shows it can hold its own in battle like the other Musketeers.
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Darmanitan Zen Mode Meloetta Pirouette Form Though Gen 4 wise you have to count their aesthetic changes as well. Burmy Leaf Cloak Burmy Sand Cloak Burmy Trash Cloak These three are aesthetic changes for Burmy that has it evolve into the same Pokemon in different forms. Cherrim Sunny Form Though this is just an aesthetic change like Keldeo's Cherrim goes from her covered up flower to a blooming flower. Gen 3 Only introduced two Pokemon that could Change form Deoxys and Castform. Which has 8 Forms for Generation 3, 6 if you do not count Original forms. So really we haven't gotten that many more than when they first started adding forms. |
I guess people are OK with normal formes, but not with legendary formes, that's why no one cared about the other forms like Cherrim, etc.
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"The first image of CoroCoro's cover has been revealed and has shown Keldeo's Resolution Form. This form is only a slight change to Keldeo's appearance but features a long blue horn and a longer mane." - Serebii.
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It...meh, is a little disappointing. I was hoping for more than this. I was hoping for like, a more adult look to it. Like a Rapidash effect or something. Idk, I LIKE IT, but I wish it was a little more. :c |
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Also, new forms of Kami Trio can be caught from one source (Dream Radar) without even having original Kami Trio members caught. From that point of view, those forms work like Rotom forms - all are available at once. The only difference is that you have to spend more time playing to get them. |
I'm hoping the rest or Keldeo looks taller and larger at least a mid sized pony.
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First off, Keldeo is a Foal, aka infant horse, not a pony.
secondly, and this is wishful Thinking, I am hoping for this form to be bipedal, it'd add that little bit more neatness to it and make it more of a change. I've created my own prediction for the form, IF it is bipedal. Spoiler:
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However, I forgot about Darmanitan being included in the prior list, because when it goes into its Zen Mode, its stats and ability are changed. So that's one more to add to Gen V's use of alternate forms in terms of more than just aesthetic changes. Quote:
It's not really a big deal if I'm honest, but speaking just for myself, I'd personally prefer it if GameFreak kept the alternate forms for Pokémon to a minimum rather than go overboard with it. Next thing we know, Gen VI could be shrouded with even more than we're getting now. I liked it more when people viewed the different forms as a unique factor. Now it's become something that's to be expected. I just hope Keldeo's form is the last one they are adding for B2W2. I really wouldn't like it for Genesect to get his own form too. It'd definitely be a bit too much with no real reason to warrant one if they went down that road in my opinion. |
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Anyways back on topic it could be possible that Genosect might have another forme since it's kind of a robot, maybe it has a mecha like transformation... |
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It honestly wouldn't surprise me if they pulled out a new form for Genesect, but I'm really hoping that they don't. |
Considering that Genosect isn't revealed yet they could make a new forme and keep it hidden for awhile.
I hope they tell us how to get the new Keldeo forme since they're suppose to mention how Kyurem changes formes (in game) in this Corocoro issue. |
I called Keldeo's New Forme from day 1! I knew they'd be a forme of it that'd look stronger like the Musketeer trio. From what we've seen, it still looks young though.
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I'm not too hyped about Keldeo's new forme. It's not hugely brilliant. Although I am judging from the small image we have. I don't think the type will change, the base stats will probably change with the offenses being altered. Since Keldeo is special attack oriented, it'll change to attack.
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I can understand why some people may think that these new pokemon "Formes" are getting out of hand, but I feel that Pokemon is pokemon. Pokemon is so expansive and adding new formes and such is just a welcome addition. I like to pick and choose the pokemon for my team. I like dual typed 3rd staged pokemon. I welcome these new formes and it's just giving us more options whether we use them or not.
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I find forme changes ok, but I absolutely love them when they have a story to go along with. The forme changes for kyurem, the genie trio, and keldeo are looking to having a rich back story, so I think it's awesome. I think it's too much when they just start making formes for anything, but it seems they had all these formes planned since bw.
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I'm not too jazzed about Keldeo's new form. With the Kami trio's forms though, I was a little more ecstatic about , but it seems to me with Keldeo's they're just throwing more formes for no real purpose. I don't think I want any more, the ones we have are good enough.
So far it's Resolution form looks like the Usual form but with a little extra features. Though, I may be wrong on that since the full hasn't been revealed yet. Maybe the rest of the body will have aesthetic changes. I'm hoping it has body features similar to the musketeers, but shorter. |
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I know I said GameFreak is going a little overboard with all the new forms lately, but if they're going to do it, specifically with a legendary, they might as well go all out with it for the most part. I guess we'll learn more about it and determine whether this is true or not as we start to get more of the CoroCoro scans within week though. |
To be honest, I liked Keledo as it was and IMO it didn't really need an improvement.. it's stats are fine and it's appearance is great. They're really trying to make the most of this forme debacle by adding it to almost every legendary but sometimes it just doesn't work.
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Well I know Terrakion has that mega-high attack so possibly Keldeo will get a sPA boost because iirc Cobalion's isn't amazIngly high.
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^What he said. The New Forme will have whatever one of the Musketeer's doesn't have a high stat in and Keldeo will use that to defeat Kyurem.
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If it's speed than could that mean that Kyurem's slow though? Then again most of the trio is quite slow...with Kyurem itself being the fastest...
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Kyurem, the genies and Keldeo are probably the only Pokemon that are going to have new forms. Also, the whole trio's speed is equal so the only option would be HP. SO they would probably lower a stat and raise one of his Attack stats.
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Yay, new formes. Especially involving Keldeo! 'Cause that's what the fans really want to see! [/sarcasm] According to Serebii, it changes its Forme in a forest near Sangl Town but I really don't care, you guys. Really. Don't. Care.
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I wonder if this new forest was part of Icirus' forest at one point, the same forest the Muskeeter's used to live in. |
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Oh right...Did we post the newest info here yet? Guess not, though if I'm wrong oh well.
In Form Featuring news~ Keldeo changes form in a Forest near the second City in New Unova. So its a Locational Form Change much like Giratina, Burmy, and in some degree Castform/Deerling/Sawsbuck. The Kami Trio "Can" change form with the help of some unknown item, whether it be a Key Item like Shaymin, or a Hold Item like Giratina, I don't know. Although you can still catch the new Kami Trio forms through the Dream Radar exclusively. (still don't know if the item changes them from Incarnation form to Sacred Beast form or vice versa. The reverse would be cool though possible it can do both, even though then that makes the Sacred beast Forms "being exclusive to Dream Radar" a blatant lie cause they obviously won't be if you can change them by an item received in game.) |
Keldeo's Resolution forme is pretty bad. I expected boot-hooves.
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Ooh, I actually like Keldeo's full forme more than I like its normal forme, so yay! However wait from the screenshot, does that mean the spirits of Virizion/Cobalion/Terrakion are involved in summoning it, or do you need to have all three, I wonder. OR DOES IT UNLOCK THOSE?
Edit: just saw about needing the other three to change the forme I guess that makes sense. |
Says on Pokejungle that all three need to be in your party to change Keldeo's form.
and the Item for the Kami is a Hold Item called Reverse Mirror. Keldeo reminds me of Umichika from Bleach XD |
Well in July's CoroCoro there's scans of Keldeo's new Resolution forme.
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/3/34/CoroCoro_July_2012_Keldeo.png I'm a little disappointed that there wasn't much changes to it Usual Forme. I was expecting that the scan of the forme on the cover was hiding changes for it's body, but they stay unchanged. :( |
Kinda makes sense that the body wouldn't change much if they don't change its stats like the rumor says.
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I noticed with this new forme it looks kinda more noble, or more brave, does anyone else get that impression from its design?
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Pfft @ random anime characters. I just like how its hoof is lifted and it's looking upwards, looks like it has a purpose whereas its other forme just looks kinda boring because it's just standing there. :x
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@XanderO That's what I'm thinking!
And I really like the new horn, never said I hated it, just sort of disappointed. I guess it will grow on me, cause like Nica said , it sort looks more royal. |
I agree with Requility, my first impression after seeing it's full body was it seems more norble with the hair in front of it looking more regal and it's stand.
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@ XanderO: ...no. xD
I agree with Nica. I actually like the form now that I can see the whole thing. it looks more noble, brave, and powerful. Like it has finally graduated from being an apprentice musketeer, to a full time hero. |
Even it's eyes look tougher. I do wonder how do you change it back to the old form...or could this new forme be permanent!
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I too agree with Requility. It's new additions give it more of a royal look.
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