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Zayphora June 12th, 2012 5:01 PM

Maybe the new admins are rich...

The only other option as to where they are is that water tank area.

I still think it really looks like Opelucid.

Kenmoor June 12th, 2012 5:39 PM

The new Team Plasma could have a source of income like a casino of some sort. Remember Team Rocket? Heck, their HQ was under it.

Water tank area? Specify, please. Plus those don't look like water tanks.

Your entitled to your opinion. But I still think it isn't. :cheeky:

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 12th, 2012 7:03 PM

I think it's Opelucid, it fits because most of the time the evil team prevents us from getting the eighth badge...so the gym leaders are proably busy trying to take down the ship or figure out what the heck Plasma is going to do.

Ho-Oh June 12th, 2012 7:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7212252)
Well pollution hurts Pokemon so it would make sense for them to be eco friendly...
Their objective might be the same to free Pokemon and get N to return similar to Team Rocket which still tried to make money (the Slowpoke debacle) and trying to get Giovanni to return at the same time.

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Originally Posted by Kenmoor (Post 7212119)
Has anyone else noticed the bottom of the picture yet? The 4 random balls/buildings? What are those?
I see solar panels on the sails of that flying ship/maybe T.P. HQ. You think that Team Plasma has suddenly gone eco-friendly? Maybe that's their new objective, to stop all Trainers and Pokemon from littering. I don't know if I'm being serious or not...

I'd love that because of a certain thread loool. Actually, they never actually specified their goal yet, so if it was based on stopping pollution, that'd be kinda awesome - under a new leader/leaders, of course. But how could they go too far, I wonder.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 12th, 2012 10:27 PM

Forcing people to live under cave? Using pokemon to force people surrender all of modern life's conforts...using eco terrorist (seems counter productive though)?

Ho-Oh June 12th, 2012 10:30 PM

Hmmm, well, maybe, that might be why they'd want Black Kyurem and White Kyurem since they could technically "power" technology. Though I think maybe just get people to move to the forests and the ice they'd have created forces them out to the forest areas, rather than the city areas. idk. It could work.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 12th, 2012 10:33 PM

Oh that's possible, all of mans technology won't be enough, I can see Plasma pertending it's all a natural disaster created by humans (while secretly controlling Kyurem) to force them to give it up in hopes it'll stop.
This brings back memories of the whole Nature vs Technology theme we expected in BW...perhaps part of Plasma wants to increase tech?

SkyRyder June 12th, 2012 10:48 PM

Anyone notice the blurred screenshot with the black Plasma grunt talking with the white Plasma grunt? Makes me wonder if both sides are against each other, and are under different leaderships (like Ghetsis with the black grunts, and N with the white grunts?). If that's the case, I also wonder if the white grunts are against the main protagonist, or if they are with him/her into stopping the other group of Plasma grunts. Surely their evil schemes might have been dissipated from the events in the first Black/White games.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 12th, 2012 10:51 PM

I'm thinking the white one's will proably be nice since the goddesses are with them, and the sages seem to have reformed but who knows they could be like Magma and Aqua were in Emerald...

blue June 13th, 2012 5:24 AM

So this means there are potentially two villainous teams? Just as they did in RSE! I hope so, I loved that scenario.

Kenmoor June 13th, 2012 6:19 AM

So.. if that's so... then... In B2 Ghetsis could be on our side and in W2 N would be on our side? I don't know if the villains are version exclusive as in Ruby and Sapphire... maybe at the end of the main story line both sides would reform into a new team? (Off-topic) Wait, then would they make a B&W 3 similar to Emerald?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 13th, 2012 8:03 AM

Well I think N isn't involved with the team...perhaps it's Akuroma in charge of the White team for that scenerio to work without N having a lesson amnesia.

blue June 13th, 2012 8:13 AM

Yeah, it does look like N is siding with us against Ghetsis so maybe in White 2, the White team Plasma are the heros lead by N and the Black team Plasma are the villains lead by Ghetsis, vica versa for Black 2.

Altairis June 13th, 2012 9:57 AM

I liked the two teams in RSE, but if that happens I hope that they'd make each a little different, it seemed like Team Aqua & Magma were essentially the same (No big plot differences, they each had 1 leader, a hideout scene, etc) but they each wanted different Pokemon.

I hope N is still in the game and involved somehow as he was an interesting and different character, for being on the "bad" team he wasn't just like "I'm going to get this Pokemon and/or rule the world"

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 13th, 2012 2:07 PM

How did Ghetsis manage to make a new Plasma...I hope there's an explaination of his plan.
The new uniforms look strange but much better than their Knight costumes.

SolarAbusoru June 13th, 2012 2:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenmoor (Post 7212891)
So.. if that's so... then... In B2 Ghetsis could be on our side and in W2 N would be on our side? I don't know if the villains are version exclusive as in Ruby and Sapphire... maybe at the end of the main story line both sides would reform into a new team? (Off-topic) Wait, then would they make a B&W 3 similar to Emerald?

That would make absolutely no sense, why would Ghetsis side with the hero? why would N fight against the hero? this isn't like magma and aqua, N and Ghetsis are actually defined characters, Ghetsis is an absolute Monster, N is a reformed man who does not want conflict between people and pokemon and generally only wants people to be friends with their pokemon, making the system like ruby and sapphire would destroy their character completely.

Also, in that video on Pokemon sunday 2 weeks ago that showed n and the hero vs ghetsis, both the scene in white 2 and black 2 versions were shown, N is on your side in both of em, Ghetsis is the villain in both of em.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 13th, 2012 3:11 PM

The Magma and Aqua dynamic would work best only if it's someone else like Akuroma in charge of one part and Ghetsis the other though I don't think they'll do that this time around.

Xebelleon June 13th, 2012 3:42 PM

Hoping to be able to battle the Sages this time. Not beaing able to was such a lame move for BW, holey Krabby Patty.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 13th, 2012 3:45 PM

Well if the Sage's are indeed reformed than most likely we wonn't be able to battle them this time around either unless they decide to test us out by battling us like N did.

Kenmoor June 18th, 2012 5:47 PM

Well, the Sages couldn't have just disappeared. So I guess they were loyal to N and they might oppose Ghetsis' actions as he took away N's leadership. They might even be N's propaganda ministers again but this time they could be spreading the word to Ghetsis' side in hopes of some of his Team defecting.

Aquarius1997 June 18th, 2012 6:12 PM

My speculation is based ALL in this pic and previous speculation
http://www.serebii.net/black2white2/ghetsis.png

1 The teams would be split up between Black Plasma/White Plasma

2 If you have white 2 N has Reshiram and vice versa

3 if you have white 2 white plasma side up with N and black plasma sides up with Ghetsis and in black 2 black plasma sides up with n while white plasma sides up with ghetsis

*either way Ghetsis is evil and N is good*

Ghetsis,irregardless, will have kyurem which he will use to fuse with reshiram OR zekrom

Xander Olivieri June 18th, 2012 6:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarius1997 (Post 7218844)
My speculation is based ALL in this pic and previous speculation
http://www.serebii.net/black2white2/ghetsis.png

1 The teams would be split up between Black Plasma/White Plasma

2 If you have white 2 N has Reshiram and vice versa

3 if you have white 2 white plasma side up with N and black plasma sides up with Ghetsis and in black 2 black plasma sides up with n while white plasma sides up with ghetsis

*either way Ghetsis is evil and N is good*

Ghetsis,irregardless, will have kyurem which he will use to fuse with reshiram OR zekrom

Knight Plasma is with N in both I believe. The Beret Plasmas are with Ghetsis. I don't think this changes between versions.

Aquarius1997 June 18th, 2012 6:23 PM

Yeaaaah the plasmas probably wont be split up since
Knights represent good
And
Berets signifies bad (kinda .. Maybe)

But every thing else is alright

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 19th, 2012 2:47 PM

Do you think that cave is in the giant chasm?

Also this might just be the design of the cloak but Ghetsis' right hand seems to have something white and blue if it's not the design could it be what he's using to control Kyurem?

I agree knights will proably be good still while ninja-spy plasma will be bad also note that they match the colors of their shirts/ clothing.

Xander Olivieri June 19th, 2012 2:56 PM

I don't think either version of Plasma is good honestly. When Ghetsis is gone and done with I can see N starting up his release your Pokemon for the Pokemon's sake campaign again. I can also see N attacking the Main character every now and then to try and get the Player or the Player's Rival to release their Pokemon.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 19th, 2012 5:14 PM

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Originally Posted by XanderO (Post 7219941)
I don't think either version of Plasma is good honestly. When Ghetsis is gone and done with I can see N starting up his release your Pokemon for the Pokemon's sake campaign again. I can also see N attacking the Main character every now and then to try and get the Player or the Player's Rival to release their Pokemon.

NO, that'll be horrible, it'll mean he hasn't learned a thing since BW... which seemed to be the lesson he learned at the end of the first pair...

Aquarius1997 June 19th, 2012 10:10 PM

^ yeah that would be 2 steps back from N new policy

Itll be a good twist though

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 20th, 2012 7:19 AM

It seems more like assop amnesia to me... though I won't mind fighting N I just hope it's under different circumstances.

giradialkia June 20th, 2012 7:28 AM

I'm willing to bet that Team Plasma splits into Old Plasma (Knight Plasma) and New Plasma (Beret Plasma), with Ghetsis in charge of New Plasma (seeing as he, too, has an altered outfit) and Old Plasma awaiting N's return (though I'm not so sure he'll be in charge of Old Plasma). I'm not 100% up to date on the Plasma information that has been released, but it'd seem that Old Plasma are against New Plasma, thus they are looking to do good rather than evil.
That screenshot is certainly interesting; I'm going to assume that N is definitely against Ghetsis, seeing as he is facing him rather than standing beside him. That probably doesn't mean anything, of course, but it's the feeling I get. I'm still very curious as to how the Player will obtain their Kyurem, though. We got our Reshiram/Zekrom in a fairly unconventional way in BW, so I'm wondering what Game Freak are planning to do on the Black Kyurem/White Kyurem front. Should be pretty interesting.

Kyurem White June 20th, 2012 7:59 AM

I know the Shadow Triad will be in the BW 2 movie and they have to be in the game if they're in the movie. I heard N might be making a reappearance.

Ho-Oh June 20th, 2012 8:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyurem White (Post 7220886)
I know the Shadow Triad will be in the BW 2 movie and they have to be in the game if they're in the movie. I heard N might be making a reappearance.

Yeah both are confirmed. :3 Except it was just the anime trailer, rather than a movie but yeah.

Either way, encountering Plasma in Tachiwaki City kind of makes me think of how they appeared in Black and White. Interesting parallel!

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 20th, 2012 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by giradialkia (Post 7220859)
I'm willing to bet that Team Plasma splits into Old Plasma (Knight Plasma) and New Plasma (Beret Plasma), with Ghetsis in charge of New Plasma (seeing as he, too, has an altered outfit) and Old Plasma awaiting N's return (though I'm not so sure he'll be in charge of Old Plasma). I'm not 100% up to date on the Plasma information that has been released, but it'd seem that Old Plasma are against New Plasma, thus they are looking to do good rather than evil.
That screenshot is certainly interesting; I'm going to assume that N is definitely against Ghetsis, seeing as he is facing him rather than standing beside him. That probably doesn't mean anything, of course, but it's the feeling I get. I'm still very curious as to how the Player will obtain their Kyurem, though. We got our Reshiram/Zekrom in a fairly unconventional way in BW, so I'm wondering what Game Freak are planning to do on the Black Kyurem/White Kyurem front. Should be pretty interesting.

My guess is that Kyurem will react to Zekrom/ Reshiram's presence and transform. It might than attack Ghetsis and the rest...
I see Ghetsis getting furious and attacking the player afterwards...

PaxAmericana June 21st, 2012 5:53 AM

Ghetsis's Team has been revealed:

Spoiler:
14:43; Ghetsis' Team: Cofagrigus Lv. 50, Eelektross Lv. 50, Drapion Lv. 50, Toxicroak Lv. 50, Seismitoad Lv. 50, Hydreigon Lv. 52



Also, you battle the Shadow Triad as well sometime in the game.

Kenshin5 June 21st, 2012 7:22 AM

I am eager too see how N plays into all this. Kind of disappointed with Toxicroak on Ghetsis team.

Aquarius1997 June 21st, 2012 7:34 AM

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Originally Posted by giradialkia (Post 7220859)
I'm willing to bet that Team Plasma splits into Old Plasma (Knight Plasma) and New Plasma (Beret Plasma), with Ghetsis in charge of New Plasma (seeing as he, too, has an altered outfit) and Old Plasma awaiting N's return (though I'm not so sure he'll be in charge of Old Plasma). I'm not 100% up to date on the Plasma information that has been released, but it'd seem that Old Plasma are against New Plasma, thus they are looking to do good rather than evil.
That screenshot is certainly interesting; I'm going to assume that N is definitely against Ghetsis

OMFG i know the story

Old plasma ruled by ghetsis
While new plasme is awaiting Ns return but Akuroma has took the the place as the leader
Thats why he said he opposes team plasmas ideals he despises ghetsis' team ideals
It all makes since now

Nepse June 21st, 2012 8:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Reshiram Man (Post 7222133)
Ghetsis's Team has been revealed:

Spoiler:
14:43; Ghetsis' Team: Cofagrigus Lv. 50, Eelektross Lv. 50, Drapion Lv. 50, Toxicroak Lv. 50, Seismitoad Lv. 50, Hydreigon Lv. 52



Also, you battle the Shadow Triad as well sometime in the game.

I might be mistaken, but wasn't it mentioned in BW that Ghetsis's pokémon left him or something like that?

PlatinumDude June 21st, 2012 8:20 AM

Ghetsis' Hydreigon is underleveled...again?! That doesn't make much sense to me now, considering that Ghetsis' Pokemon have lower levels than they did back in the original B/W.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 21st, 2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nepse (Post 7222280)

I might be mistaken, but wasn't it mentioned in BW that Ghetsis's pokémon left him or something like that?

That was Plasma who left him.

I'm guessing the weaker team is due to him no longer being the last opponent after the E4.
And that Hydreigon is the most underleveled Pokemon ever...

Perriechu June 22nd, 2012 2:46 PM

Apparently Team Plasma are to blame for Unova being frozen over. After you defeat Drayden they fly overhead in their flying boat and freeze the area.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 22nd, 2012 2:53 PM

Why would they freeze it though hmm... All I can think of is that it's lure out Kyurem...

Perriechu June 22nd, 2012 2:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Magmaruby and Aquasapphire (Post 7224297)
Why would they freeze it though hmm... All I can think of is that it's lure out Kyurem...

How would that lure out Kyurem? I think it's still related to Kyurem but not to lure him out. Perhaps to freeze actual people so no one will stop them when they try to awaken Kyurem?

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 22nd, 2012 3:08 PM

Perhaps the change in environment allows them to acess the cavern where Kyurem is like in BW...
Hahaha people never do anything about the evil team why worry now :P

Perriechu June 22nd, 2012 3:10 PM

Maybe they were trying to freeze the hero? :o

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 22nd, 2012 3:22 PM

Maybe. Though Galactic used a Bomb to drain a lake to get Azelf so the idea of a ice blast being used by Plasma to get to Kyurem isn't all that far fetched.

Perriechu June 22nd, 2012 3:38 PM

Yeah but Ice won't lure Kyurem out. It hasn't been shown to be 'attracted' to ice. Blasting a lot of areas with ice won't draw it out. Kyurem isn't an heroic Pokemon either. So it wouldn't respond to the suffering of people. My guess is that they're trying to halt everything and every one from stopping them by freezing them.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire June 22nd, 2012 4:05 PM

I mean that perhaps they use the ice to gain acess to Kyurem's place like how the Blizzard elevated the player to the cave in BW. So the cannon is a subtitute to the Blizzard to get to it...though whh go to the trouble if they could've flown in from above. Oh Plasma...

Shayminlover123 June 27th, 2012 6:41 PM

Im sorta wondering why team plasma split up into new and old.They are both just team plasma!

Jellicent♀ June 27th, 2012 7:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shayminlover123 (Post 7231550)
Im sorta wondering why team plasma split up into new and old.They are both just team plasma!

The old Plasma seems to have learned from their mistakes, while the new is still out for domination and striking fear into the hearts of everyone.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 2nd, 2012 8:23 PM

I wish they explain when they split and how they managed to stay together after all,since in BW they were said to have dissolved...

diab_low July 3rd, 2012 7:59 AM

I was watching Shofu's play through of Pokemon B/W2 and to my dissapointment Team Plasma still have their good for nothing Pokemon i wanted them to have better ones than patrats and lillipups and purloins.

Nick July 3rd, 2012 8:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jellicent♀ (Post 7231577)
The old Plasma seems to have learned from their mistakes, while the new is still out for domination and striking fear into the hearts of everyone.

I don't even think it's much of that re: Old Plasma.

The old Plasma thought they were saving Pokémon from trainers because of N, they were following N, their king. When you're following someone so fully, and then someone seemingly below them comes up and admits that they've been manipulating the leader, and that it was simply a ruse to gain control of all the Pokémon, like Ghetsis did at the end of Black and White, that doesn't change anything for why they did it. The grunts were doing it because they thought it was best for the Pokémon. Sure, they didn't do it in the most friendly way and resorted to stealing in most cases, they weren't out for domination and striking fear while the new Plasma is just after controlling the Unova region by controlling the Pokémon within it.

Though, I'm going to assume that some of Team Plasma from Black and White went on to new Plasma through agreeing with wanting to control the region, being persuaded and recruited, or out of fear while some of them stayed with N for agreeing with the pure ideals.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 5th, 2012 3:12 PM

Or they possibly recruited a whole group of new members with some old one's returning. Ghetsis gathered the Sages from other regions so he might've done the same with Plasma.

Aquarius1997 July 5th, 2012 5:15 PM

If you all remembered in bw once you beat the game that Looker asked you to capture the rest of the sages(except ghetsis) if you did captured them they all said thier regrets for thier wrongdoings and said that they were duped by Ghetsis so why would two of the old sages,Rood and Zinzolin, join back up with Ghetsis

Also is anyone disappointed that those girls with the pink and blonde hair didnt have much of a plot they were just in that house with old plasma

Jellicent♀ July 5th, 2012 7:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarius1997 (Post 7240713)
If you all remembered in bw once you beat the game that Looker asked you to capture the rest of the sages(except ghetsis) if you did captured them they all said thier regrets for thier wrongdoings and said that they were duped by Ghetsis so why would two of the old sages,Rood and Zinzolin, join back up with Ghetsis

Also is anyone disappointed that those girls with the pink and blonde hair didnt have much of a plot they were just in that house with old plasma

Rood isn't back with Ghetsis, he just battles you to see your strength. He's the one who gives you Zorua. I would say that Rood was released for cooperation, and Zinzolin was busted out by Ghetsis after Ghetsis promised power and authority to Zinzolin. Rood probably wanted nothing to do with it, and chose to wait for N to return.

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 5th, 2012 7:59 PM

^ Seems that way to me too.

Darn, we still saw very little of the Goddess'...what were they there for other than telling the player N's story (in BW)... seems like a waste of characters.

Twilight-kun July 6th, 2012 5:58 AM

Akuroma leads a faction of Team Plasma that still wants to free pokemon (I think)

Geechisu leads a faction of Team Plasma that wants to take over Isshu

Aquarius1997 July 6th, 2012 11:08 AM

Oh yeah i forgot Rood is the good guy this time around lol my bad


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Originally Posted by Twilight-kun (Post 7241292)
Akuroma leads a faction of Team Plasma that still wants to free pokemon (I think)

Geechisu leads a faction of Team Plasma that wants to take over Isshu

Na'll its the other way around
I put it in a spoiler since people are somewhat bothered by reading spoilers
Spoiler:
Team plasma split into two factions, one is good plama and are devoted to N's pure motives. The other is bad plasma whose motives are world domination. Its leaders are Ghetsis and Akuroma(i hate the name Corless) akuroma is just like Charon from team galactic

OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire July 7th, 2012 3:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarius1997 (Post 7241551)
Oh yeah i forgot Rood is the good guy this time around lol my bad




Na'll its the other way around
I put it in a spoiler since people are somewhat bothered by reading spoilers
Spoiler:
Team plasma split into two factions, one is good plama and are devoted to N's pure motives. The other is bad plasma whose motives are world domination. Its leaders are Ghetsis and Akuroma(i hate the name Corless) akuroma is just like Charon from team galactic

Except that unlike Pluto (Charon's Jp name)
Spoiler:
he actually regrets his actions, much like Saturn and wishes to help the world (again like Saturn)

Satoshi Ookami July 8th, 2012 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Twilight-kun (Post 7241292)
Akuroma leads a faction of Team Plasma that still wants to free pokemon (I think)

Geechisu leads a faction of Team Plasma that wants to take over Isshu

Since Akuroma is practically subordinate of Ghetis you cannot say he leads anything in Team Plasma ;)
He belongs to the new Team Plasma fraction but as Magmaruby said he regrets his decision to join Ghetis.
That might be one of the reasons why he gives you Master Ball because he believes that Master Ball shouldn't be missused and believes that player will use it for good.

blue July 10th, 2012 4:26 PM

Akuroma´s English name revealed!

His name is Colress. He is a Pokémon strength researcher.


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